Anyone Starting Chemo Jan. 2010?

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  • georgiabirdgirl
    georgiabirdgirl Member Posts: 143
    edited May 2010

    11tybillion- I know the last thing you want is to be second guessing your doctor, but I'd DEFINITELY talk to him about your particular needs (i.e. hospitalization) and ask him specifically why he doesn't order the shots for you.  It may be an overall policy instead of an individual decision.  Tell him your concerns about that.  I think once the docs consider specific circumstances their recommendations might change.  I know my doc very casually talked about getting me in for transfusions if my counts got too low, and I told him that it was absolutely NOT something I would be happy about and that I wanted to avoid it at all costs.  He kept telling me it wasn't a big deal, but I told him it was to me.  He didn't change my treatment, because I was already getting the shots prophylactically, but he made sure to watch my counts closely and give me more specific feedback about what I could do about it between infusions.  At the very least, it made me feel better that it became a priority to him as well.

    Sometimes it doesn't matter, but I think that when the docs know where we're coming from, they can make better decisions for us.  Good luck and I'm praying that your counts stabilize.  That goes for you guys too Nkrun and Mslrg. 

  • 11tyBillion
    11tyBillion Member Posts: 96
    edited May 2010

    THANK YOU so much ladies.  You really made me calm down a bit.  I will keep you all posted on what he says -- although, they (the Onc. office) STILL have not called me back today, and I called them TWICE.  (tap tap taping my foot).  

    I am really all for creative visualization thing (worked really well for both of my pregnancies) and as I walked today I was picturing the oxygen flowing into my lungs, flowing into my bones and feeding billions of new baby white blood cells. We will see if it works! :-)

    About an hour ago I suddenly panicked because I made a fesh fruit smoothie today for lunch, and I rememebred that I should be watching the fresh fruit thing while my counts are low ... DOH!  Man, I drink a smoothie, or have a plate of raw veggies every day ... I just dont want to give that up!  I am not taking any multi vitamins (only D3, Calcium, vitamin B, and Fish Oil), and I feel as though my body has to get some good vitamins and nutrients somehow!  I read that vitamin E is supposed to be good for low WBC, but E is an antioxidant and I/we are generally warned away from antioxidants ... 

    Any of you guys hear of anything that is "good for" low WBC?

  • VegasDiva
    VegasDiva Member Posts: 109
    edited May 2010

    Last night I was watching one of my favorite shows LX New York.  They did a segment on eyelashes.  They said that the cost of one month's supply of Latisse is $120.  They recommended a product called RapidLash Eyelash Renewal Serum.  They thought it worked as well as Latisse for less than half the price and no Rx needed.  I found it at drugstore.com for $43.  I decided to give it a try.  I'll let you know if it works for me. 

    I see the finish line a commin'.  I have 3 more regular radiation treatments then the 7 boost treatments and I am done!!!!  Except for the 5 yrs of Arimidex.  One woman I spoke to said she didn't even know she was taking the Arimidex.  I hope that is so for me too.  Is anyone else having radiation right now??

    Love and Hugs to all.

  • georgiabirdgirl
    georgiabirdgirl Member Posts: 143
    edited May 2010

    VegasDiva- I talked with my oncologist about the Latisse and he said he didn't recommend it.  He didn't say that it was bad, but that overall he had issues with it in terms of some of the potential side effects and complications (including immune issues) enough to give it a thumbs down.  I'm going to skip that for now, but it made me glad that I asked.  I have to keep in mind how "compromised" my system is from all the chemo and make sure to clear things with the doc first.  The last of the Taxol pain is starting to wear off YEAH!!!!  I can't wait to feel normal again.  I'm really excited about my hair starting to come in.  I have about 50 little shoots sticking up.  They can't be more than a cm or 2, but they are dark.  I'm happy about that.   I have to "put on" eyebrows and liner everyday now because they are so thin. 

    On Sunday, I forgot about my bald head and went outside to talk to my kids.  There was a crowd of parents and kids in the cul-de-sac (an everyday occurrence) and I just forgot to put a head covering on.  I felt a strange breeze on my head and then realized.  No one seemed to be phased except me.  I did hurry it back inside to cover up, but it was funny how used to walking around bald I've gotten.

  • mslrg
    mslrg Member Posts: 293
    edited May 2010

    Hi Ladies, thanks for your responses regarding my last post. Pagowens--yes I am a school district employee--a principal,  with NO UNION PROTECTION. My district is battling a 30 Million dollar budget shortfall, and has laid-off 500 teachers, 400 classified positions (secretaries, custodians, food service, classroom aides, maintenance, technology, library techs, etc), every vice principal, several directors, and other administrative positions. I have been told I'm "lucky" to have a job to come back to. I guess that's true. But my blood levels are super low and I still have to get my exchange surgery. Long story short: I have togo back on May 24h and work that entire week. Then the next Monday is Memorial day, and I'll take my 5 furlough days after that (those of us not laid off are taking pay cuts, furloughs, and pay step freezes). This will mean that my family will stil get to go to Washington DC to visit family and have a little fun for a change, before we come back and I complete 7 more work days in June. Then straight to the OR for exchange surgery, hoping I can get back to work by mid-July when administrators have to start up again. I am very upset and scared. I feel like they're going to scutinize me to make sure I am perfect at my job even when I feel terrible. My teachers and other staff are mad as hell about all the layoffs and pay cuts, so the work place is pretty toxic rightnow. But I have to do what I have to do. Prayers, please!!!!

  • michelle_nj
    michelle_nj Member Posts: 50
    edited May 2010

    VegasDiva- I like LX New York too, they present lots of useful and in style things.
    Do you have any side effects from radiation? I'll start radiation in June. Any suggestion for simulation or radiation sessions? Are you very tired?
    I read in the booklet that the radiated part should never see the sun again. Does it mean the radiated points, or the whole breast, or..?
    I am more than a week post last Taxol and I still get itchy legs every evening. Should I take Benadryl? I never took Claritin or Benadryl except the IV one. Everybody else with itching skin or taking Benadryl?
    I had Dose Dense Taxol with Neulasta, so no low WBC for me. Otherwise I'm fine, but no eyelashes and just a few eyebrows. And I'm a bit worried of using more chemical for faster growing

    11tybillion - Good luck with improving your WBC.

    MsLrg - Prayers for you to manage the following months in good health and spirit.

  • pagowens
    pagowens Member Posts: 194
    edited May 2010

    Hi Michelle,

    I wouldn't take the Benedryl while still having Taxol in your system  - it is the cause of the "jumpy legs" that several of us have experienced.  Call your oncologist and ask what to take, rather than guessing on over the counter meds. 

    My oncologist said no Latisse while on chemo.  She didn't say not to do it after chemo  - and, unlike other general users, I only intend to use the stuff until my eyelashes are back in.  I don't care about long and thick lashes .... just more than I got now so that my eyes don't look so stark.  I did buy the prescription Latisse at $124 at cvs and am glad to get the recommendation re the substitute stuff.  I thought it was darn expensive and it's not covered on my prescription plan because it's classified as cosmetic.  But, it seems to me that hair regrowth is addressing a SE of chemo and not cosmetic.  I;ll probably never win that battle with the prescription plan company.

    Mslrg - just take it totally easy on yourself going back to work.  I went back part-time (20 hrs) in mid-April while still doing chemo and like last night, after an evening function I had to go to, I was EXHAUSTED and literally crawled into bed.  I'm paying for it today - a chemo day. Make the work stuff the total focus and DO NOTHING once you get home to conserve your energy and make it through.  I work at a college and had a hard time convincing my oncologist I should go back part-time.  She said all teachers, administrators, health care workers should NOT go back to work because of the proliferation of germs in schools and health care centers and hospitals.  I promised I'd stay in my office....which I mostly do.  She wants me to put up a sign that says something like "If you're sick or feeling sick, please don't come in - call me instead."  LOL  The receptionist now acts as my guard dog and  checks folks out first.  I've had only one time where I had to lock my door and lay down on the floor for about 30 minutes to regroup my strength and get on with the work.  For me it's the darn fatigue that is the most difficult to deal with and work.

    And, I'm almost through the Anti-Cancer book.  Since reading the lists, I've been even more conscious at the food store re reading labels.  Geez Louise - I'm already tired and I can see this lifestyle change away from the toxins in food is going to take a LOT OF WORK.  I don't know if I'm up to it yet - like the exercise stuff.  My bones are just too tired.

    Ciao,

    Pat

  • VegasDiva
    VegasDiva Member Posts: 109
    edited May 2010

    michelle_nj that's funny that you too like LX New York.  Did you see the segment yesterday on the eyelashes?  On the show they made it sound like any of the "bad" SE were from folks not using the stuff correctly.  Especially the part about using more than 1 drop of solution at a time.  They said it has been approved by the FDA for a long time.  It was originally a medicine for glaucoma and they noticed all the patients had these long thick lashes.  Like Pat, I only plan to use it until my own lashes are back to normal.  I did have really nice lashes until all this. Undecided

    My only real SE from the radiation is fatigue.  I fall asleep by 8 each night.  I am working full time and I drive a little over 100 miles a day now, between going to work, then to the hosptial and home again.  I have followed my radiation oncs directions to a T and my skin is holding up great.  I don't know about going out in the sun, but I am not a sun worshiper anyway so I don't think that will be an issue.

    The only recommendation I would have for the radiation is to see if they will let you just keep the magic marker dot on your chest rather than getting a tattoo there.  I got 6 tattoos.  3 were done at the first simulation and they are so small you can hardly see them.  The next 3 I got the day of my first treatment.  A different person did them and hers are larger than the first 3.  Of course the only one that had a bleed of ink under the skin was the one on my chest.  I am going to have that one removed as soon as possible.  It shows when I wear anything but a turtleneck!  Other than that radiation is a piece of cake compared to chemo.

  • zappit
    zappit Member Posts: 16
    edited May 2010

    I read an article about Latisse that may be of interest. Here is the link - you may have to paste on your browser if it does not work

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/02/health/02latisse.html?scp=1&sq=latisse&st=cse

    Got my genetic testing back and unfortunately I have a  BRCA 2 mutation. Now I have to consider additional surgery as the risks outlined to me are high. Wish I could have had the double Mx in Dec when I had the single....but I guess I did not have the BRCA results then. Looks like I will be seeing the various surgeons a lot over the next months! I have decided that I am going for minimizing risks...so ooph, fallopian tubes, uterus etc out as well.  

    On a more positive note - I had my last Chemo (Tax.) today! So after the worst SEs go in 8-10 days it is recovery time! I hope for the best! I had a low key celebration ...lunch with my husband. It seemed just right as I'm so tired from not sleeping last night due to the upped dose of DEX.  

    Sorry to hear about all the additional stress some of you have been facing...hope it can be resolved. Some employers can be so callous and the recession has not helped matters. 

  • mslrg
    mslrg Member Posts: 293
    edited May 2010
    Zappit--sorry to hear about your BRCA gene. Please check out the FORCE website: www.facingourrisk.org/ It is  a resource for people who have genetic risks for cancer, especially BRCA. My niece works for them (She's only 3 years younger) and she is BRCA + . Her name is Lisa Schlager, and you can find an article on the site about her story--she had BMX and ooph surgery before she ever got any cancer, --about 2-3 years ago. Prayers to you.
  • michelle_nj
    michelle_nj Member Posts: 50
    edited May 2010

    Pat and VegasDiva - Thank you for your prompt and helpful responses.
    I'm waiting to see how Latisse is working for you.Wish you the best of luck. I would love some thick nice lashes, but one of the side effects is redness of the eye and I already have it from chemo.

  • Issymom
    Issymom Member Posts: 264
    edited May 2010

    Zappit - Sorry about the BRCA2 positive test.  I am BRCA1+ as is my sister so I know how you feel.  I am having a hysterectomy on June 5th as I feel I have a ticking time bomb inside of me.

    Today is a big milestone for me as every other Tuesday since the beginning of January, I went to hospital for Chemo.  Today was a normal day for me and NO CHEMO.  I have no eyelashes, just a few eyebrows, and no hair!  Now, I feel like I start hoping for hair and no SE.  I actually think I can feel a little fuzz on my face.  Wouldn't you know, the first place my hair will start growing is a mustache.  That's not right!!!

    Mslrg - Good luck with work.  At least you will have some breaks in between the weeks you have to work.  You are strong and you can do it!

  • zappit
    zappit Member Posts: 16
    edited May 2010

    mslrg - Thank you for the link to the FORCE website. It is a useful resource. I looked up your niece - she is doing valuable work! It must be professionally rewarding. 

    Enjoy your trip to DC...there is so much to see in the area and interesting for children too! 

    Issymom - Thank you for the supporting words. Good luck with the surgery in June. I hear that there are new less invasive techniques they use now and recovery is quicker. I have an appointment with the breast surgeon in a couple of weeks and am waiting to hear from the OB/GYN onc. surgeons. I feel my choice is clear. I know there is no guarantee but the less risk the better!

    I have no siblings but will have to contact cousins to share the BRCA info...as they may want to consider testing as well. Not a pleasant task.  

    What is your follow-up and surveillance schedule like? I feel like mine is lacking anything concrete at this point. I need to clarify with the docs. I can get follow-up with a med. onc (BRCA expertise) so I feel a little assured. My med.onc (chemo) is not big on tests. At least once I have the surgery I will not need the mammograms and breast MRI. Also since there is no reliable screen for OVCA...the surgery option should provide less worry as well. Quite a journey for sure!

    Congratulations on your milestone...no more chemo! I too have about 2 eyelash and 5 eyebrow hairs! My head hair is starting to grow on the side...mainly white fuzz. I had some white before chemo but others had warned me about the white seeming more once growth started. I will have to look into natural or mild hair dye products for a few months/weeks (?) down the road.    

    Good luck to all for now.  

        

  • pagowens
    pagowens Member Posts: 194
    edited May 2010

    Hi All,

    11tyBillion- I don't know anything that helps to build up the WBC - I looked online previously and couldn't find much.  The only article I saw said eat plenty of veggies and fruit, especially oranges.  I eat one orange and banana a day anyway and eat lots of veggies.  I also looked at my chart yesterday while there for chemo.  My blood results track the various things, like WBC and RBC, and it has ranges for high and low.  Here's my results yesterday:  WBC::  Should be between 4.9 to 10.5.  I was getting Neupogen when my counts were around 3.2 to 4.3.  Yesterday it was 6.1, so no Neupogen this week (yea! Less bone pain). RBC:  Between 4.00 to 6.00, I'm below at 3.32, she didn't seem too concerned with that  Hemoglobin (tracks anemia): Between 11.0 to 18.0.  I'm at 11.1 as of yesterday but was floating around 8 and 9, so I did the egg yolks, spinach and calf liver stuff to build up the iron and I've been getting a bag of iron (feron) with each infusion.  I got a bag yesterday again.  So, I don't know how to interpret your .89 or 8.9 you cite for WBC - you need to ask your doctor or nurses for the ranges of high and low so you can understand where you are.  I hope this helps.

    Issymom - yes, my leg hairs and chin and muzzie hairs are coming in first.  NOT FAIR!

     Zappit: Thanks for the article.  I did go see a dermatologist first and talk with her about me being a chemo patient.  She did prescribe Latisse and felt the risks were minimal to me after chemo as long as I follow the directions to the T.  She will only prescribe one package at a time and I have to go back for check ups monthly.  I have dark brown eyes already, so no problem there - am a little worried about the inflammation, so I'll keep a careful eye on that too.  I'm starting in mid-June after a two week break from chemo.  Hell, after filling my body with much more lethal toxins to fight the cancer, Latisse seems pretty lightweight.  Unlike some of the folks quoted, I'm not in it for a lifetime to have long lustrious eyelashes.  I'm just in until all my previous eyelashes are back and doing ok.  I figure that's a couple months. 

    The funny thing yesterday when I brought up my eyelashes/eyebrows to my oncologist is that she recommended a nearby nail salon where her patients have gone to have fake lashes glued on that stay on for various lengths of time.  I laughed because that seems more chancy for infection than Latisse!  However, I am going to take a trip to the Beauty supply store and get some light, fake ones that I can wear for special occasions - like my 20th reunion next week.  I've worn fake eyelashes before and the hardest part is gluing them onto the eye and not the cheek, eyebrow or ear. Laughing

    Had my 8th Taxol, out of 12 yesterday.  I see the light at the end of the tunnel!  Can't wait.

    Pat

  • pagowens
    pagowens Member Posts: 194
    edited May 2010

    Hi All,

    11tyBillion- I don't know anything that helps to build up the WBC - I looked online previously and couldn't find much.  The only article I saw said eat plenty of veggies and fruit, especially oranges.  I eat one orange and banana a day anyway and eat lots of veggies.  I also looked at my chart yesterday while there for chemo.  My blood results track the various things, like WBC and RBC, and it has ranges for high and low.  Here's my results yesterday:  WBC::  Should be between 4.9 to 10.5.  I was getting Neupogen when my counts were around 3.2 to 4.3.  Yesterday it was 6.1, so no Neupogen this week (yea! Less bone pain). RBC:  Between 4.00 to 6.00, I'm below at 3.32, she didn't seem too concerned with that  Hemoglobin (tracks anemia): Between 11.0 to 18.0.  I'm at 11.1 as of yesterday but was floating around 8 and 9, so I did the egg yolks, spinach and calf liver stuff to build up the iron and I've been getting a bag of iron (feron) with each infusion.  I got a bag yesterday again.  So, I don't know how to interpret your .89 or 8.9 you cite for WBC - you need to ask your doctor or nurses for the ranges of high and low so you can understand where you are.  I hope this helps.

    Issymom - yes, my leg hairs and chin and muzzie hairs are coming in first.  NOT FAIR!

     Zappit: Thanks for the article.  I did go see a dermatologist first and talk with her about me being a chemo patient.  She did prescribe Latisse and felt the risks were minimal to me after chemo as long as I follow the directions to the T.  She will only prescribe one package at a time and I have to go back for check ups monthly.  I have dark brown eyes already, so no problem there - am a little worried about the inflammation, so I'll keep a careful eye on that too.  I'm starting in mid-June after a two week break from chemo.  Hell, after filling my body with much more lethal toxins to fight the cancer, Latisse seems pretty lightweight.  Unlike some of the folks quoted, I'm not in it for a lifetime to have long lustrious eyelashes.  I'm just in until all my previous eyelashes are back and doing ok.  I figure that's a couple months. 

    The funny thing yesterday when I brought up my eyelashes/eyebrows to my oncologist is that she recommended a nearby nail salon where her patients have gone to have fake lashes glued on that stay on for various lengths of time.  I laughed because that seems more chancy for infection than Latisse!  However, I am going to take a trip to the Beauty supply store and get some light, fake ones that I can wear for special occasions - like my 20th reunion next week.  I've worn fake eyelashes before and the hardest part is gluing them onto the eye and not the cheek, eyebrow or ear. Laughing

    Had my 8th Taxol, out of 12 yesterday.  I see the light at the end of the tunnel!  Can't wait.

    Pat

  • Issymom
    Issymom Member Posts: 264
    edited May 2010

    Zappit - I was fortunate to find out that I was BRCA+ before surgery.  Because I was triple negative and 46 with a grandmother who had BC at 52, my BS recommended the testing.  I did the test at that first appointment and found out a week later.  I was all set for a lumpectomy (never consider MX) but once I found out about the gene, I decided to have a bi-lat.  I am sad I had to do this but glad I did.  Once I have my hysterectomy, my risk will be more like a normal person so no additional testing.  My onc is not big on testing either.  She doesn't want to expose me to radiation from scans and blood tests are not reliable.  She said I just need to monitor how I am feeling, any unexplained pain, etc...  Good luck with all that you have ahead of you.

    Today is our 20th wedding anniversary.  Amazing it has been so long.  I also found out some sad news.  A friend from High School died this weekend from a massive heart attack (they thought he was healthy).  You just don't know what is going to happen tomorrow.  Enjoy today.

  • Tamatar
    Tamatar Member Posts: 38
    edited May 2010

    Hi Everyone!  You are all such a great source of inspiration for me.  I am having my last chemo/Taxol tomorrow.  I went today for the blood work and was cleard to have my LAST ONE!!!  I have shared this with other people, but they didn't seem to understand the excitement that I had.  This is So Important to me....I am reaching a milestone!  WHOO HOO!!!!!!

    To all of you that are done with chemo...WHOO HOO your you too!

    For those of you on your path....keep the faith...your WHOO HOO is near!

    Take care of yourselves,

    Tammy

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2010

    Issymom and Tamatar congratulations you survived nasty chemo.

    Zappit-bummer about the BRCA. 

    11tyBillion- I'm with Pat, in all my research I have not come across anything that will help with WBC.

    Hair hair everywhere..even though I'm on 3 of 12 into Taxol, my hair is growing back. Yep the hairs in my chiny chin chin are first. Not sure I'm ready to deal with hair again. Being bald everywhere is so easy. Onc said don't get too used to it because it may fall out again.

    Today, I saw a picture  of a women from the waist up who had a double mastectomy. Wow it hit me really weird and made me afraid of surgery. Good thing its not until August.. For those of you who had surgery..how did you prepare mentally?

    It is amazing how good I feel this week after not having my weekly Taxol on Friday.  Not that I want to drag out chemo any longer but getting a week off is sure fun. I'm sure my liver is glad to get a break as well.  My ALT was 6 times the normal limit.

  • Tamatar
    Tamatar Member Posts: 38
    edited May 2010

    nkrun - I had a double mast with reconstruction.  I currently have tissue expanders and will be having them relpaced in the coming months.  I guess that I was happpier to have the breasts removed than to keep thinking about the cancer growing within...like a ticking bomb.  Actually, for the first 2 days while I was in the hospital I didn't look (too afraid)...then when I did look, I was actually pleasantly suprised.  I had 2 reasonable bumps where my breasts were..or actually a little higher since I've had 2 kidsSmile.  the only strange thing wa snot having a "nipple"...but that strangeness went away fairly quickly too.  The most strange thing for me (living in the Chicago Area) was when it was cold outside there was no "nipple reaction"...that was kind of weird!  i know too much information...but I wish I had thought of it before it happened! 

    Anyway, I wish you the best!

    Tammy

  • zappit
    zappit Member Posts: 16
    edited May 2010

    Tamatar : Congratulations on your last chemo today... all the best for recovery and a good summer. 

    nkrun: The change with body image will be hard at first...but like Tamatar, I too was just happy to get the cancer out and that helped me deal with it. I have one out and the asymmetry is strange...now that I have to consider having the other out...I'm thinking the symmetry maybe a good thing! Always a way to rationalize it. I am not considering reconstruction although my surgeon seems keen to do it. At the moment I'm going the way of being fitted for a custom prosthesis....quite the process! Time will tell if I'm happy with that decision. I was always happy with my body type and boobs before cancer - the change is never easy but you will be surprised how your mind/body will adapt.

    Issymom - Your onc. sounds similar to mine. I got exactly the same input about follow-up testing. Avoiding the exposure to radiation and scans makes sense. I'm nervous about the "monitor how I'm feeling" part of the deal. In the past, I never knew when to get concerned....although they now say I should call with any concerns. I have had breast pain and lumpy tissue for most of my life and I was always told that pain was not really a concern. It will be tricky.

    My mom was diagnosed with bc at an early age. Treatment was different then and she did not make it past 36. Her sister was treated for OVCA later (today she is well and a 19 year survivor!).  

    Sorry to hear about your school friend. You are right, enjoy today!

    Congratulations on your 20th anniversary! It will be 20 years for us next month too!! 

          

  • mslrg
    mslrg Member Posts: 293
    edited May 2010

    Hello Ladies,So many of you are coming along so well and getting some of these milestones behind you. For those of you still struggling with SE, my extra prayers are with you.

    I saw my PS surgeon on Tuesday and was glad to find out I didn't need any more of those painful saline fills. I was surprised to find out that my 450 ml expanders actually have 600 ml in them--no wonder the tight turtle shell in the chest feeling. They are so painful and wake me up every night with cramping. I have been taking a lot of valium, darvocet and barbituates to deal wit the pain , especially at night. Anyway, the good news is that I can get my exchange surgery in mid June, and that will give me 3-4 weeks to recover before I have to go back to work to start the 2010-2011 school year. I still have to return on May 24, and also put in 7 days in the first part of June. All of my healthcare providers are completely disgusted at my HR department. I am too, but I have to deal with it the best I can.I a, also going to physica therapy to improve my range of motion and strength, as well as strengthn my knee thathas a torn meniscus. Yes, I feeli like my body is falling apart! Hope you al have a greatd day! Hange in there!

  • georgiabirdgirl
    georgiabirdgirl Member Posts: 143
    edited May 2010

    Mslrg-that is very exciting news indeed.  You are SOOOO close to the finish line.  I am disgusted with your HR department too, but I'm thrilled for you that you have a job to go to in the fall.  How long did it take you to go from the surgery to the final fill?

    I'm feeling more and more normal everyday. The hairs are beginning to poke out of my head, at a snail's pace.  None anywhere else yet.  Yesterday I had a long and stressful day at work and was able to get through it without once complaining of leg pain.  Of course, they were killing me by the time I got home.  I actually felt like my old self at work and that was a nice feeling.

    When I got home, my post surgical camisole had arrived in the mail.  I tried it on for size and saw the padded fake boob inserts.  When I showed them to my husband he asked why they came with the camisole.  We have been to all of our doc appts together and spent plenty of time discussing the surgery.  So, I very nonchalantly said, "well they're cutting my boobs off, so these will be their temporary replacements."  He immediately started tearing up.  Sometimes I forget how much this all affects him.  I spend everyday getting more and more used to the idea that I'm going to be cut apart and rebuilt, but he doesn't.  So, when I very bluntly reminded him of what's coming it knocked him off balance temporarily.   

    I am totally at peace with my decision, because my boobs aren't good to me anymore.  I feel less fearful about this than chemo, because while this will be an extremely painful recovery, at least it's one that gets easier everyday instead of harder like chemo.  Chemo just takes so much physical and psychological endurance because you have to go back and do it all again so many times, each time wondering if it's going to get worse.

    I am afraid of what I will look like after the BMX with TEs.   I may not look at my body for a couple of months if that's even possible.  I've got my eye on the finish line that will hopefully be sometime in September or October.  It's still just one foot in front of the other and thankful for every good day.

  • mslrg
    mslrg Member Posts: 293
    edited May 2010

    Hi Georgiabirdgirl--I had my BMX on Oct 24, then began fills about 4 weeks later. I had fill shots every week until I began chemo, then put them on hold because it was too much for me to do chemo and fills. I resumed shots about 3 weeks after chemo and had my last one about 2 weeks ago. My PS likes to wait at least a month after the last fill before she does the exchange. I know some PS wait even longer. As for the camisole--I have 2--the hospital gave me one on the day of my BMX and I bought one.  I never used the falsies--at first, it was just too painfl to have anything there. Then afterwards, I just couldn't be bothered with them. The camisoles are very useful though,with the pockets for drains, etc. The fabric is soft and there are no seamsto rub you where it hurts. Even now that I have "foobs" with my TE, I still not wear a bra--don't miss that one bit!

     Your husband had a bit of a shock when you put it to him straight. The people who love us have a hard time watching us go through this hell. As for not looking the same, you won't. I remember the first time I saw myself topless in the mirror, I was shocked, and said out loud, "They're gone!!!" and I started to cry. I knew they were gone. Hello! You can't have that kind of surgery and not know. But when I saw myself in the mirror, I did feel a huge sense of loss and shock. You will not look the same again, and the sensation will always be different. I have numbness and have been told it may stay that way forever. In addition to doing the exchange, my PS will be doing some liposuction around the sides. I expect them to look better than they did before, but they will never be real and will never be mine. I will learn to live with them and be thankful I am still alive. This is a very life-changing journey for us all on so many levels. Hang in there. Prayers!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2010

    mslrg, georgiabird, zappit-thanks for sharing your tender surgery stories.  While chemo is a total drag, the surgery makes the whole BC thing real.  I feel fortunate that I have the opportunity to digest chemo before facing the reality of surgery. I don't really have a strong attachment to my boobs. I feel they served their purpose in life by nourishing my babies. I've always been somewhat of a jock, so having smaller or no breasts will improve my golf game and, help me run and swim faster. So why is thought of surgery freaking me out????

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2010

    I just read an interview with Melissa Etheridge in Natural Solution magazine where the last paragraph is

    On looking at cancer in a new way
    I actually tell people newly diagnosed with a life-changing health condition, Wow, great: Your body has reached this point where it's telling you that you can't go on like this anymore, and you have to change. I know that when my body did that, my life changed forever for the better. I've never been so happy and clear and strong and healthy, and that's what's lying in front of you. Because now you have the excuse you've been looking for to stop stressing yourself so much, stop requiring so much of yourself that you're making yourself sick. It's time to now say "No" to those things that you don't want to do and say "Yes" to what you do want to be. You'll look back on your disease and say, "I'm glad that happened to me."

    My question is...does this happen over time or do you just wake up one day and say "yes surviving cancer was the best thing that has ever happened to me"? If so, I'm waiting for that day because right now I'm not feeling it.

  • michelle_nj
    michelle_nj Member Posts: 50
    edited May 2010
    Nkrun - I guess, surgery is freaking you out because you had too much time to think about it, too many opinions, too many pictures, too much time to imagine it,etc.. For us, that had the operations before chemo, we were much to shocked, puzzled, stressed, overwhelmed and just wanted to get over with it. The sooner the cancer was out, the better. At least for me.
    As about Melissa Etheridge's quote, I'm with you. I'm not feeling it either and I wish it was something else that opened my eyes and made me change my lifestyle.
    But maybe, one day we'll feel it too.
  • trainertam
    trainertam Member Posts: 156
    edited May 2010
    I wanted to start a new thread to share , but i couldn't figure out how! Hopefully you can share with all who need to know.
     
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  • mslrg
    mslrg Member Posts: 293
    edited May 2010

    Nkrun--I get what Melissa Etheridge is saying. SHe is absolutely right. And I would love to have the luxury of saying "No" to the things I don't want to do, such as going back to work before I am ready. My challenge right now is finding the balance in my life where I can still do the things I HAVE to do without compromising my health. If any of you figure out that little secret in life, please share :)

  • rcames
    rcames Member Posts: 19
    edited May 2010

    mslrg, nkrun - I think I get the Etheridge quote. Cancer did make me realize that I have to start saying "no" to at least some of the stresses in life. Like you mslrg I wish that I had the luxury of saying that to all of the things that I have to do. However, I have found that there are some stress points that I'm able to dismiss. That's something that I never would have done before, preferring rather to try to be all things to all people and putting myself last. Not anymore, girlfriends, life is too short.

    Had my last TCH 4/29/10!!! Now its on to radiation and Tam. Woo Hoo!!! I'm so looking forward to feeling like myself again.Laughing

  • mslrg
    mslrg Member Posts: 293
    edited May 2010

    rcames--you are right. There are many things over which we will never have control, and those are the things we will have to work hard to find balance. Other things can just be let go--my perfectionism would be one of them. Te true test forme will be after I go back to work and try tobe all the things I was bfore, post cancer treatment--an adjustment period for sure. We are all changed forwever because o fthis experience.

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