How Do you Find Hope

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Pure
Pure Member Posts: 1,796
edited June 2014 in Stage III Breast Cancer

When I get down I try to rack my brain for hope. LIke ok if I go 5 years then there will be new tx. etc. If I go 10 years there could be a cure.

Am I lying to myself? I get confused if I should be hopeful and plan my life and my future or should I plan on eventually it coming back and dying. Is there any hope for the future, for a controller or a cure?

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  • DCMom
    DCMom Member Posts: 624
    edited April 2010

    Pure-

    I wish I had an answer because I often wonder the same thing.  I wish I could just move on and then something happens (an ache, a pain, a cold) and I am right back at day one panic.  I think there is post traumatic breast disorder, the big difference is that we haven't left the war zone and the attack was inside us so we can't get away from it.  Every time I hear or see anything BC related my pulse rises.

    I go to the survivor stories on BCO when I am really scared and try to imagine myself as one of them.  My life and my confidence have been permanently shaken and I just wish I could get rid of these panicked feelings.  I wonder if they will eventually go away.  When I did my student teaching (as much as I hated it) the one good thing was I was too busy to dwell on this and I felt great the whole time.  Now that it has ended I am back to worrying and just can't shake it.  I debate daily about an antidepressant, but just don't want to add another drug with its own side-effects to my repertoire. 

    I know you too have days that you are much more upbeat and these days do become more frequent as time goes by, but this is scarey and the nightmare is always right outside our door.  Lock the door with activity and enjoy every minute with your children because in a couple of years you will be looking at them and marveling at how much time you wasted in fear. 

    My oldest graduates in June and will be heading off to college.  My feelings about that are so different now because I am so happy to still be here to send him off and yet I will be so sad to see him go.  This would all be so much easier if my littles were older and I know you are in that same place.  I want to see my 7 year old graduate and have children and sometimes I wonder if that is something I shouldn't be banking on, but then I tell myself why the heck not?  I didn't expect BC and had never worried about it and my husband says that the things you worry about never happen so from that I should assume I am 100% in the clear because I worry about it all the time.

     This is getting lengthy, but I am in the same place as you today.  I pray tomorrow, or this afternoon, my hope will return, but this sucks and I have already wasted too much time crying over what ifs, but how to turn it off?  

    Wishing you more hope for a long happy future full of love and laughter.

    Susan 

  • precioustime
    precioustime Member Posts: 233
    edited April 2010

    Pure

    I have learned to enjoy each and every day of Life AND to do that-- I can not allow cancer to control any part of it!  Yes-- we have been diagnosed with cancer and gone through treatments and guess what-- We are still here! 

    Think about "what if" there was already a cure for Cancer....  o.k. now say that we are cured:)  There is still the possibility of not being around another day --- Everyone is going to Die and that is a fact. 

    Before our diagnosis did we sit around and think about death-- probably not -- SO why should we have to now?  My HOPE is that God is my Creator and that "everything" is in His control!  As long as I put my HOPE and TRUST in Him --I know that I am in good hands!

    Please be encouraged and know that you are not AloneSmile  and when negative thoughts try to enter your mind -- REFUSE to accept them and LOOK at your surroundings and what you have RIGHT NOW as you LIVE!

    Loretta

  • diana50
    diana50 Member Posts: 2,134
    edited April 2010

    hi Pure

    i don't wrap my head around Hope so much; what really helps me is Faith. in my mind...and in my daily life....my Faith seems to keep me balanced.  my faith...(which is very strong with God)..is that "i will be ok no matter what"  "i will deal with relapse when and if it occurs" "my doctors will take care of me if i relapse" i will get good treatment if i relapse"  " i am alive today and will not worry about next year" 

    i have faith...a deep faith..which has kinda evolved over time...it isn't something that i just acquired....it has taken time to become a part of my daily life......that things will be ok and i will be ok..and the people in my life will be ok.  hope is something that i may say..."I hope this will work out"  but faith for me is the deep level of contentment. 

    i believe there is hope for a life...a future...until i am so sick....and on my deathbed...i will continue to hope for my life and have faith it will all work out. if i worry about all of it; i am not living life as i have it NOW. Cool

    take good care*** hugs

    diana50

  • lexislove
    lexislove Member Posts: 2,645
    edited April 2010

    I have faith....not hope.

    Do I wish to see a cure for BC? Of course.

    Do I think it will be happening soon......no.

    I am realistic.

    I live each day...in the day. I don't think of next week, next year. I do plan though or I think of what I would like to be doing.

    what your thinking or feeling, is normal. The end of treatment stage. I won't lie, it was horrible for me. I took things day by day.......literally. I just had a massive recurrence scare April 1st, turned out to be B9 and I'm still trying to put it past me.Right now? I'm living under the covers.

  • precioustime
    precioustime Member Posts: 233
    edited April 2010

    Lexislove

    In Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see. 

    Loretta

  • Jellydonut
    Jellydonut Member Posts: 1,043
    edited April 2010

    There are dedicated people around the globe researching breast cancer 24/7 -- that gives me hope that someday a little link, a small piece of information, an "insignificant" finding, when fused together, will produce a significant breakthrough and perhaps a cure!  It can happen any day....

    There is more money that goes in breast cancer research that all the other cancers combined.

    Jelly

  • concernedsis
    concernedsis Member Posts: 256
    edited April 2010

    You know Pure - sis tries just not thinking about it and it works for her. But the truth be told, as the acute phase of treatment ends, it feels kinda weird planning ahead doesnt it.

    But I think you have to have faith - they got it, its gone and go on. I think our whole family lives life a bit differently - seize the day and all that - in the end no one knows - I dont have BC and could be hit by a bus tomorrow (not asking you to do that God!). In the end, trust in a higher power and move on one day at a day.

  • Lowrider54
    Lowrider54 Member Posts: 2,721
    edited April 2010

    Without hope, what is there?  And coupled with hope is faith.  I have hope that someday a treatment will come to arrest the disease - and I have faith that I will see that day. 

  • LRM216
    LRM216 Member Posts: 2,115
    edited April 2010

    Lexislove - you said it best.  "I am living under the covers."  I think each and every one of us, no matter what type or stage - can truly feel those words and know just what you mean.  I think we are all living under the covers a great deal of the time.  I can feel strong and confident, and then wham - I read on this board or another - of a fellow triple neg getting it back at 10 or 12 years!  What the hell - so what's happened to that " oh,make it to 5 yrs and your chance of getting it back is less than anyone's!"  There is just no rhyme or reason to this disease, that's what is so frightening.  I used to envy all the HR+ gals for having a cancer that has many avenues to treat - until I began to see so many relapse, etc. after their 5 years of continued drugs were up.  Look at all the Stage IV gals that have just recently passed on -it's sickening.  Most of them were just posting only a week or two before they died.  This disease is a freaking beast - and none of us, once diagnosed, ever stop looking over our shoulder again.  God bless us all.  A cure?????  Yeah, sure, but it's nice to dream.

    Linda

  • LRM216
    LRM216 Member Posts: 2,115
    edited April 2010

    Apologies to all - I just reread my post and didn't realize how "Debbie Downer" I really sounded.  Guess today is not exactly one of my "up" days.  Please excuse me.

    Linda

  • momand2kids
    momand2kids Member Posts: 1,508
    edited April 2010

    Pure

    I think everyone deals with this in their own way. For me, as long as there is a sliver of hope, I feel that anything is possible.

     I think it takes some time though--next week I will be one year out of treatment (lumpectomy, chemo, rads) and I can honestly say I feel like myself again--- I also consider myself cured.  they took out the cancer, they treated my body-- I am done.  I know that it could come back- but I also know that my life could end in any number of ways- and I never thought about one of them.... 

    When I had my second child, I got very sick and it had the potential to be fatal.  I did not appreciate that until about 6 months later when I was back to work full-time, managing two kids and a traveling husband, sick parent and I  had a mini breakdown.  the health situation was rare and no one knew if I would ever experience it again-- we treated it and I honestly, after the breakdown, did not think about it again.  I see this as the same, although there is alot more information about bc.  

    I think it takes time to see the hope, have faith in life again.  I seem to remember that you had a baby in the middle of all this.... I honestly think we need far more time than we think we need to absorb these shocks to our lives.... and you have had alot going on.  I don't think you should deny anything that you are feeling, but remember you are feeling it right now.  It is not always going to feel that way.... but your feelings are valid.  

    I found therapy very helpful as I was going through this.... gave me a safe space to say the things I was thinking out loud.  something to consider.  

    People get through this. you have gotten through the treatment and the birth of the baby.  These are huge accomplishments.  Please give yourself the time you need to feel what you feel.  Hope is out there and you will find it.... but on your own timeline

  • bejuce
    bejuce Member Posts: 97
    edited April 2010

    This made my day today and gave me hope. 

    I was just in the cafeteria at work grabbing lunch when I bumped into a colleague. She told me that her mother had breast cancer when she was 35, that it had spread to her nodes, and that she had gotten a mastectomy, chemo, and radiation. She's alive and strong and kicking today 20 years later...

    So what gives me hope? Hearing as many positive stories as I can get!

    It is possible ladies!!!

  • Pure
    Pure Member Posts: 1,796
    edited April 2010

    Thanks for all your responses ladies:)  I too just heard about a triple negative stage 3 survivor who is 8 years out.

  • lexislove
    lexislove Member Posts: 2,645
    edited April 2010

    precioustime - I like that quote.....

    I hope I wasn't sounding pesimistic or a debbie downer either with my post earlier.

     Yesterday,I got a call from a woman I did chemo and herceptin with and she told me.............that another woman we did treatment with has recurred and it's in her lungs,liver,bones. Frown

    <sigh> I'm going back under my covers now.

  • FCB
    FCB Member Posts: 21
    edited April 2010

    "While there's life, there's hope."  Cicero

     I had a friend who died in a random accident right before I was diagnosed.  He was one of the most vibrant people I've ever known, and having that experience of losing him, realizing that we're all so fragile...it puts this disease in perspective for me.  Really truly, anything could happen to anyone.  At least we have treatment options for this, and better ways every year.  I guess I figure if I'm going to worry about this, I'd have to worry about everything.

  • Frankie_
    Frankie_ Member Posts: 422
    edited April 2010

    Sometimes I go into bouts of fear that take me to dark places... I was cleaning and re-organizing recently at home and I came across the poem. I don't even remember ever filing it in my drawer. I must have did so years ago for one reason or another. Just thought that I would share it. Smile                                                              

                                                                  Hope...

                       If you can look at the sunset and smile, then you still have hope.

                    If you can find beauty in the colours of a small flower, then you still have hope.

                  If you can find pleasure in the movement of a butterfly, then you still have hope.

                        If the smile of a child can still warm your heart, then you still have hope.

                             If you can see the good in other people, then you still have hope.

                If the rain breaking on a roof top can still lull you to sleep, then you still have hope.

          If the sight of a rainbow still makes you stop and stare in wonder, then you still have hope.

          If the soft fur a favored pet still feels pleasant under your findertips, then you still have hope.

            If you meet new people with a trace of excitment and optimism, then you still have hope.

                          If you give people the benefit of a doubt, then you still have hope.

     If you still offer your hand in friendship to others that have touched your life, then you still have hope.

     If receiving an unexpected card or letter still brings a pleasant surprise, then you still have hope.

           If the suffering of others still fills you with pain and frustration, then you still have hope.

           If you refuse to let a friendship die, or accept that it must end, then you still have hope.

             If you look forward to a time or place of quiet and reflection, then you still have hope.

    If you still buy ornaments, put up the Christmas tree or cook the turkey, then you still have hope.

          If you still watch love stories or want the endings to be happy, then you still have hope.

                            If you can look to the past and smile, then you still have hope.

                                If, when faced with the bad, when told everything is futile, 

    you can still look up and end the conversation with the phrase..."yeah...BUT..." then you still have hope.

    Hope is such a marvelous thing. It bends, it twists, it sometimes hides, but rarely does it break. It sustains us when nothing else can.

    It gives us reason to continue and courage to move ahead, when we tell ourselves we'd rather give in.

                           Hope puts a smile on our face when the heart cannot manage.

                             Hope puts our feet on the path when our eyes cannot see it.

                        Hope moves us to act when our souls are confused of the direction.

    Hope is a wonderful thing, something to be cherished and nurtured, and something that will refresh us in return. And it can be found in each of us, and it can bring light into the darkest of places.

                                                          Never lose hope.

  • LRM216
    LRM216 Member Posts: 2,115
    edited April 2010

    Thanks, Frankie - we all needed to read that beautiful poem.

    Linda

  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited April 2010

    Jen...I haven't read the other posts as it is late...I think hope is day by day.....each day that we are dancing with NED brings more hope...feel good days bring us hope....and our children bring us hope...I'm convinced that I won't live to a ripe old age, but other than that, I don't think about not being here.....I don't make long range plans, but live in the present...but it is not a pessimistic attitude....I'm here today, NED, but I've made peace that whatever will be will be....and that has been good for me....it has taken a lot of the stress away....I do what I need to do....to stay NED and that is all I can do.....HUGS, Karen

  • rreynolds1
    rreynolds1 Member Posts: 450
    edited April 2010

    Hi All,

    A brand new member of my cancer support groups is Stage IV breast cancer, diagnosed in Jan., and only 42.  What an inspiring woman.  She fired her first oncologist because he kept reminding her that her stage was terminal.  She now goes to the cancer center at Yale and met with a wonderful oncologist who also is involved in research.  Amy told her that she did not want to hear her "prognosis" again.  The doctor told her that she understood and that her disease should be considered "chronic".  She also said that there are 3 new treatments which will be available within a year and 5 more right behind them.  That made all the difference in the world to Amy's outlook. 

    Whether we call it hope, faith, or dumb luck doesn't really matter.  What matters is that we make each day the best it can be.  Some will be better than others...hard to make a day great when we are feel physically ill.  I'm a half full kind of gal so I believe there are treatments that will extend our lives no matter what Stage of BC we have and who knows.....perhaps a cure! 

    Have a great day.

    Roseann

  • pupfoster1
    pupfoster1 Member Posts: 1,484
    edited April 2010

    Oh Pure,

    I think the same way almost all the time!  I keep hoping that if God forbid it comes back that there will be some way of treating it.  Seems only natural to me.  I have a follow up bone scan on Wednesday and I'm already getting nervous (they found an unclear area near my 7th rib after surgery and weren't sure if it wa from my drains or early bone mets---ugh).  We have to try to find some hope we'll be OK or it could drive us crazy!

    Take care,

    Sharon

  • FCB
    FCB Member Posts: 21
    edited April 2010

    Roseann--thanks for the inspiring post about the woman in your support group!

     And Pure, along those lines...I posted this before, but because of all your posts about Zometa, I'm on Zometa...Zometa gives me hope.  Doing 110% against cancer gives me hope.  You helped give me hope.  Thank you!Smile

     I got this disease even though I did everything to avoid it.  I actually worried about it and sort of predicted I'd get it (for no obvious reason, no family history or anything) and was living the anti-cancer lifestyle already.  I've also always aimed to live to age 98...and I'm keeping those plans! 

  • Pure
    Pure Member Posts: 1,796
    edited April 2010

    Thanks for all your positive support! You guys are awsome. Pupfoster prayers for you on Wednesday.... Keep us updated:)

  • Frankie_
    Frankie_ Member Posts: 422
    edited April 2010

    Pupfoster-sending positive thoughts aqnd prayers your way. I just want through a scare from a CT Scan on April 9th (prior to rads-treatments) and 2 "questionable" uptake spots on my spine. Rads were put on "hold" until I had a bone scan-April 26th. The bone scan was clean. It's so incredibly difficult to have to go through scans and tests. Hang in there.

  • Bugs
    Bugs Member Posts: 1,719
    edited April 2010

    Sharon,

    Thinking of you for Wednesday's scan.  {{hugs}}

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