OK another stupid comment comment
I went out to lunch with a good friend the other day. Have been so busy with studies we hadn't had time to get together and she had been so supportive during my chemo, but boy did the foot fly in her mouth this time.....Get Ready
So you're doing well? No recurrence or anything? Ummmmmmm NO! Guess the comments come from all kinds.
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I went to my regular doctor on Friday for a well person check up. His nurse complimented me on how well I'm looking etc. Then spoiled things by saying something could happen to any one us. Well yes - but it HAS actually happened to me. Not comforting words at all!!!
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I think people just don't know what to say, then end up fumbling all over themselves and irritating the #@# out of us.
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Jenn -
BINGO... I try not to be offended and I always bite my tongue because I am certain people don't mean to be rude. Gotta love it though when it comes from the nurses or doctors...COME ON...REALLY?
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Same here. I try to give people cut people some slack, because I certainly didn't know what to say prior to my dx. However, when someone asked "What's your prognosis?" I had a hard time squelching my inner snit.
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I had someone say - "I am so amazed at how positive you are considering you were stage 3" uh. thanks. I. think.
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I agree, it's pretty bad when nurses or dr's say something stupid - there really is no excuse.
I think people expect us to be sick in bed and not enjoying life. And.....I guess because it does mentally puts us into the place that people are afraid of - they want to know more.
Thank goodness we have each other to vent to and share "stupid people" stories with.
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I just had a friend tell me about her sister-in-law who is recently Dx, and is going through Chemo. I made some comment about chemo, etc, she replied - "Well, she is only Stage 2, you were Stage 3, it was much more serious for you" Gee, thanks for pointing that out!
And when I was at the Dr recently for the cellulitis, I didn't see my regular Dr, and the Dr I saw made such a big thing about how young I was to have BC, and I how I must have Family history. Uh, no. This is a DOCTOR! No wonder so many of us are misdiagnosed.
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I so get those stupid comments. My husbands cousin who had 2 heart attacks came over the other day with his wife. She comes in and says to me "Hi Sickly" now we have the 2 of you in the family" Ugggg, I so wanted to deck her right there, but I didn't have a good comeback to wipe her nose in. Anyway, that was one of the comments that really sent me over the edge over stupid comments.
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Shanagirl, the one I feel bad for is your husband's cousin. He has to LIVE with her.
She must be such a joy for a man with a heart condition.
Leah
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These stupid comments are terrible, but I'm laughing at the stupidty of people.
I have this one work friend who is really nice, but doesn't realize how she sounds. She has told me so many times, how lucky I am because I was able to stay home for 6 months, how nice that must have been to be home and not come to work. Then......I'm so lucky because I get a to have new boobs and a tummy tuck. Yeah, I'm lucky........ Whoo Hoo - I'm jumping for joy!
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I've been in California for 8 weeks for rads and I'm expecting some "aren't you lucky" comments when I go home soon. I appreciate the sun and the wonderful recreation opportunities but I would give away this "vacation" in an instant if it meant I didn't have bc.
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Jenn3-
Laughing out loud at this one! My gosh where do they keep their brains. I suppose you could reply as intelligently "oh yes it was wonderful...wishing you an excellent "cancer vacation" as well.
As Bill Engvall says "Here's your sign"
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I think that I may have the winner as far as these comments are concerned. My Mom has nothing serious wrong with her, just your normal aging things, high cholesterol, diabetes that is controlled by diet those sort of things. I said something to her in reference to breast cancer and she told me that I hadnt put up with my problems for 50 yrs like she had and until I had, I had nothing to complain about. I was like Wow, hope I can live those 50 yrs.
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Love Bill Engvall - "Here's your sign" is a good one for these stupid comments. I like "Cancer Vacation", think I may use it next time it comes up - and it will.......
Kandy - Wow, can't believe Mom said that. I guess in her mind you look fine and aren't dealing with near as much as she is.... I just think people view what we should look like with cancer, we don't look that way and then we get stupid comments.
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OK so what my surgeon said to me when he saw me at my 6 mos check up "who would of thought?"
shook me up abit to think he didn't expect to see me , but now after 5 yrs I have to laugh at this.
live large ladies,!!
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Okay ladies.....
I think I have you all beat.....but you be the judge.
I did my chemo in Dallas Texas....My husband and I would fly out to Dallas and he would work at the hotel and then come sit with me in the chemo room. One of my chemo weeks I decided I would do it alone and not drag him out there with me ....(we live in FL).
So my liver numbers were elevated (I now know that can be because of chemo but didn't know then) and my doctor decides to do a scan--not because of the elevation but rather it is part of his protocol mid chemo to do scans on his high risk patients. So I do the scan and there is something on my liver (ends up being nothing but a cyst or something but didn't know that then). So......I am alone in the hotel......reading the scan report.....looking at my bloodwork and absolutely hysterical and terrified.....1500 miles from home.
I call my sister, scared out of my mind who lives in VA.....who very matter of factly tells me that "well, you know we (meaning my family---mom and sisters/brothers) have all discussed this and you may very well die from this."
Did she really think that this was what I needed to hear in a Marriott in Texas...alone?
All you can really do is shake your head.....
Jacqueline
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When first diagnosed, I was 57 years old and did not know as much as I have learned since then. My first plastic surgeon (not the last or the one wo did my surgery) told me what she wanted to do which included a mastectomy on one side. I asked her what the chances were of having a recurrence on the other side. She said, "Oh, at your age, we don't worry so much about high risks. Now, if you were 28 years old like one of my patients and had many years ahead of you, then we would think more about risks, but not at your age."
Janie
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Janie44 - I'm 57 and was diagnosed last summer. I got such a chuckle out of the stupidity of that doctor.
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Boy howdy. They keep coming. luckily, i am sort of teflonized to the comments. i figured out that when people ask about prognosis, they think they are asking what is your treatment plan.
my favorite/not comment was: do you have life insurance? (I actually was pretty excited, because I had just purchased it before dx and the examining nurses had commented on how healthy i was!).
i try to take the intentions in mind (love for me, fear for them) and roll with it. i actually enjoy laughing about some comments (ok, much much much later they are funny, not in the moment).
take care,
--hattie
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I have to say I'm more like Hattie on my feelings about questions and comments. It all depends on who it is coming from to know whether it is concern or morbid curiousity. And I don't have any problem deflecting the morbid people. It's kind of fun putting them off.
But there are some doozies in this topic. I'm hard press to vote for the most heartless. I think I'd have to say it's a tie on the posts with comments from the family members. Those are the people that you expect will have some compassion even if it's not well phrased.
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LOL Laughing @ stupid people is fun!.......
Well a coworker told her DH about my bc from 3 years ago...He seemed very surprised and concerned.......His comment?....."It wasn't malignant, was it?"........Here's your sign.......... -
Jacqueline-
I'm giving you a win for the dumbest, most heartless comment....
Hollyann- now you have me laughing out loud! Hilarious! People really just don't know do they?
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Thanks ......would have loved to have been the winner of the most recent powerball so I could have donated to find the CURE already.......
Jacqueline
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This was not a comment directly at me but said to me. My sister told me that me that our cousin was not having recon done çause she was fine with how she looked. Not like her sister-in-law who was doing it cause she was totally vain. Recon is not about vanity!
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Wow, some amazing comments. I try to be understanding (works about 90% of the time...)as I think most people mean well and just don't know what to say. But I have to say I am still a little at a loss for words when people look at me and say, wow, you look really good, I guess they caught it early. But I also know that I didn't understood anything about bc before and what it means that a person is having chemo either. Yet another learning opportunity!!!!
Have a good one!
Yo
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The last time I saw my oncologist, who was not my original one, but I have seen since having my bi-lateral mastectomy and did all my checks before I would have chemo says to me. So, have we scheduled you for a mammogram any time soon??? What the heck, I don't have any mammos! I still have TE in, have had them since October of 08 and I am VERY patiently waiting my fat grafting (next week) and then hopefully excahnge three months from then.
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To go along with shortgirl's doctors comments, last year my gp left the area and I had to find a new one, I stayed at the same office and agreed to see the replacement doctor (young). I went for my annual physical last fall and he asked me to briefly give my med history. I told him of 2 lumpectomies for pre-cancer ADH (2005/2006), and bilat and recon with implants for DCIS in 2007. As he was starting the breast exam, he asked me when was my last mammo. I told him apr 2007, he said that I really needed to get them done every year. I point out that I had been diagnosed with breast cancer and had bilat with implants and 'their fake. . . my real ones tried to kill me!' He was speechless.
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So I now have some insight about why I can let other people's comments roll off of me. It comes directly from my parents and learning to shut them out when they are being less than thoughtful. I had my surgery last Monday and my parents were there along with DH and brother/fiance when they rolled me out of recovery and into my room. I'm still drifting in and out but I catch enough of what my mother was talking about to know she was relating a story of a man that died in the hospital due to surgical complications. Not exactly what I need to hear at that time. But I guess I've been vaccinated against those types of comments because I remember smiling inside (still didn't have enough muscle control to put a smile on my face!) because I was thinking of this topic and how I was having my "stupid comment" moment. I expected something like this from my dad but not my mother.
Mom, I know you mean well but engage brain before speaking in front of the patient! But I love you so I'll never hold it against you!
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Janie 44: wrote:
When first diagnosed, I was 57 years old and did not know as much as I have learned since then. My first plastic surgeon (not the last or the one who did my surgery) told me what she wanted to do which included a mastectomy on one side. I asked her what the chances were of having a recurrence on the other side. She said, "Oh, at your age, we don't worry so much about high risks. Now, if you were 28 years old like one of my patients and had many years ahead of you, then we would think more about risks, but not at your age."
Janie, I am shocked by that one - Unashamed ageism at its worst! it's not like you're 85 and only got maybe 15 years ahead of you... Is that even legal?? Surely you deserve equal acess to treatment If you are otherwise as healthy as her very unfortunate 28 year old? And, isn't a HIGH risk by definition something that you should worry about at any age or did i miss something. Oh yes i did. She forgot (or chose not) to answer Your question, that You need answered before You can make Your decision about Your life. Hello, so just who is this "we"? And a surgeon that doesn't think about risks??.... makes me shudder to think about it! Glad you ditched her!
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Hymil,
I am also glad I ditched her. As it happened, my surgery went in a completely different direction. I am very pleased with my choices. The doctor who did my surgery explained my options and told me things I was not even thinking about at that time like I would still have sensation. He treated me completely differently and everyone there was great. I have since moved over 200 mlles away and the oncologist I have now is also wonderful. So it all worked out for me. But I have to wonder how many others this 40 something lady thought were too old to worry about. Janie
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