April 2010 starting chemo
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Welcome Sandcat,
My kids are 13, 10, 9 and 7. My hair has not started to fall out yet, but I am sure it will in a week or so. They have seen my wig and even named it. I am not sure how they, and I, will deal with the hair loss when it actually happens. My 13 year old son has made it clear that at this point he does not want to be seen with me without hair around his friends.. My fear is that so far I have appeared "normal" to the the kids and being bald will make me appear "sick" and they may be worried. I don't know if they will still believe me when I say I am OK.
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Welcome Sandcat,
My kids are 13, 10, 9 and 7. My hair has not started to fall out yet, but I am sure it will in a week or so. They have seen my wig and even named it. I am not sure how they, and I, will deal with the hair loss when it actually happens. My 13 year old son has made it clear that at this point he does not want to be seen with me without hair around his friends.. My fear is that so far I have appeared "normal" to the the kids and being bald will make me appear "sick" and they may be worried. I don't know if they will still believe me when I say I am OK.
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Welcome Sandcat,
My kids are 13, 10, 9 and 7. My hair has not started to fall out yet, but I am sure it will in a week or so. They have seen my wig and even named it. I am not sure how they, and I, will deal with the hair loss when it actually happens. My 13 year old son has made it clear that at this point he does not want to be seen with me without hair around his friends.. My fear is that so far I have appeared "normal" to the the kids and being bald will make me appear "sick" and they may be worried. I don't know if they will still believe me when I say I am OK.
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SusieSue
Are you in the BETH Trial? I had agreed to do it and then chickened out and went with the more standard treatment (FEC D) which I could have closer to home, rather than drive an hour for the treatments. I have high blood pressure and was concerned about the SEs. I am curious to know how it goes for you. Good luck.
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Hi Ladies,
I just finished my TCH x6 on 1 April and wanted to pop in here to say hi and wish you all good luck. I was lucky to have chemo be totally doable, and really the time in treatment went pretty fast. Already my hair is starting to grow back and I'm getting my energy back. Hang in there, before you know it this will be in the rear-view!
Sue
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Goodluck today Caltex, I hope it goes well for you.
Toughmom38, I love that at least there is some benefit from all this. Let's hope for better hair, skin and nails when we're done. I think that you're right in thinking that when we lose our hair, we know that the chemo is working. Great attitude!
Marcy4 - I'm right with you on the not working bit. I too am on a medical leave and am very thankful for it. I cannot imagine trying to get up and work on those bad days and even just the stress of my regular job and the stress of chemo and cancer itself would be more than I could bear.
Sandcat, - I guess the only thing you can really say is that the medicine that is going to make you better is very strong and makes your hair fallout but that's how you know it's working. I think that the hardest part is the first couple of days when they are seeing you with no hair or very buzzed, but then the shock wears off. Already, my kids said that my buzzed head looks better than when I try and cover it up with a hat or scarf, so I'm over the embarrassment of that concentration camp look and have already started going topless in the house.
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marcy4,
I am in trial E5103.....although I am stage 1 with no lymph nodes, I am triple negative/high risk which made me eligible for the trial. I talked to my oncologist, surgeon and regular physician before deciding to take part (felt it would be a good additional step and that my health would be monitored even closer than normal). I also have high blood pressure but it is controlled by meds. During my first treatment with the Avastin (or placebo) my bp was monitored every 15 minutes, and it stayed completely normal. If I do have issues, I may make the choice to leave the trial.
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Hey ArubaJan, I was just thinking about your hat shower (now that I have been buzzed) and I think that is such a nice idea. How thoughful of your family/friends to throw that for you. I never realized that you need a lot of different hats for different situations and it would be helpful to have a large selection. I wish I had read that earlier and I could have given my family a hint....!
Saralmom....where are you? You have dropped off the past couple of days....are you feeling okay?
Caltex, isheleM and Sandcat - did your TX's go okay today?? - wishing you all well.
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susiesue
I realized after I asked about the trial that it would not be the BETH Trial. I am triple positive and they were testing to see it Avastin would stop the HER2 from recurring. It is a hard decision to make, but one benefit is being closely monitored and I was told by my radiologist that people in trials often do tend to do better. Best of luck.
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Hi everyone. Shygal, thanks for asking about me. I'm still here - have been reading all the posts - so many new people joining us here in the April chemo group - sorry to meet you all this way, but I'm sure you'll find comfort here the same way I do. It's so nice to have people going through the same things to vent to and bounce things off of.
Today was meant to be my cycle #2, but the scheduling snafu put it off until Wednesday. At first I was upset that my perfect schedule and laid out plans were changed. But of course now I'm just happy to have 2 more normal days!
Tomorrow is my hair day. I have an appointment at the wig shop - they do the short cut/buzz, and then custom fit the wig I bought. They also sell all kinds of hats and scarves. I am choked up even typing it. I knew it would be hard, but I'm still so emotional about it. It's just so cancer-ish. And I'm worried about my kids like many of you have mentioned - and just having my husband see me sleeping in the little cap - dreading it. He and all of my friends and family are so supportive... My hair is still mostly staying in even today - comes out alot in the hairbrush, small bald spot near my part in the hairline but no one notices it but me - actually looks pretty normal. Hard to shave it off when it's mostly okay - but I know it's inevitable and with my treatment on Wednesday I know I'll be too sick to deal with it later in the week.
Hope all who had their treatments today are doing okay. I have to say that I'm kind of excited to say that I'm 50% done with AC after Wednesday - desperate attempt at positivity!!!
Sara
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saralmom-I understand the desperate attempt to be positive. I'm getting to the point that I almost feel proud that I am strong enought to fight this and not just curl up in a corner, but I hate to have anyone feel sorry for me and I hate to be the center of attention so this is quite an adjustment for me. I've been wearing hats since last Thursday and I feel like it just screams "cancer patient". I think losing my hair was so painful because I can't hide the "cancer patient" title anymore-everyone knows. But I am trying to hold my head high and ignore the knowing stares from strangers (probably my imagination, I know.) What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger, right? We should all be the strongest women in the world after this...
Hope all treatments today went smooth and hugs to everyone!
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Hi everyone. I will be starting tomorrow morning, 10:30 Pacific Time. I had my chemo teach class today, and I realized how informative these boards have been when I felt that I could have done a better job leading the session than the person who was doing it. But, my DH came with me, and he thought that it was very helpful, I guess that hearing the words from a health care professional made it more real for him. I am strangely calm about the prospect, I have waited so long to get started that it seems a little unreal to me, I hope that I will be able to sleep tonight, But, I keep telling myself that once I start, it brings the end that much closer.
Have a good night all, and I hope that any SEs are mild.
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Dutchgirl6
I think you are getting the same drugs as I did FEC D. I had my treatment on the 19th and other than being tired have done well so far. Today was my first real "Normal" energy day and that felt great! I just noticed a white spot in my throat this evening and will call the doctor in the morning. It is not sore, just there, so I think she can give me something for it. Will continue to do the salt water rinse. My drugs only took about 90 mins and I was given ice chips to munch on for some of it. You may want to ask about that too. I was worried about the first treatment and once it was over I waited for the worst to hit and it wasn't bad. Not at all what my husband and I expected. In some ways I am looking forward to #2 to just to get one more out of the way. I keep thinking that by August the chemo part will be over and that isn't that far away! Best wishes for tomorrow and I hope you have the success I have had so far.
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Marcy4
Thanks for the info. We are on the same protocol, I think it's a Canadian thing. I will be having the chemo administered through IV, how is it going with the port? All in all, it sounds like you have taken it all pretty well, so far. I hope that my experience will be more like yours. I just finished filling in my online EI application, so whatever my experience is, I won't have to worry about dealing with work, at least for the next 15 weeks or so.
How is spring in Seaforth? I am a :London girl.
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dutchgirl6
The port is awesome. It was great to know that the blood work and IV could all be done without numerous needle pokes. I agree I think it is a Canadian combinatin of chemo drugs. I am sure you will do fine. Like I said, I was sure I would be nauseated and sick, but it didn't happen. Just take the drugs like they tell you and they can prevent a lot of problems.
If you are a London girl, you may know where Seaforth is. I went to UWO many years ago. The weather here has been great. We got my oldest son a golf membership and he is at the course whenever he can and my other boys have already started baseball and soccer. The eldest also has Spring AAA hockey and has a tournament in Toronto this weekend so he and his dad will be gone for most of the weekend. My daughter only has soccer and that is still a month away. I am hoping to feel well enough to attend a lot of games.
Try to get some sleep. Like you I waited since early January to get started and was just happy to finally begin. Once you start, you are one step closer to the finish line. I also have radiation to go after this, but not thinking that far ahead at the moment.
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Hi everyone. I am starting chemo tomorrow and am getting quite nervous. I have read and heard all the side effects and am really hoping that I dont have the neasea. I am anticipating going back to work on Thursday and hopefully can keep working through the whole thing. I have stocked up on the anti neasea meds, etc. and am hoping for the best. Best of luck to everyone.
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Hi everyone, well I've 2 more days of 'freedom' before my first chemo begins. I've been frantically running around getting as much done as I can before then so that I don't have to worry when the side effects hit. :-) One thing my oncologist said to me at my last appointment was that I was to make sure to ring them if nausea was a problem as in her opinion 'noone in this day and age should have to put up with it'. I'm hoping that means that there's some way of controlling at least the worst of it (well here's hoping anyway!). Had my hair cut into a shorter style today - just couldn't face having to look at my longish hair in my hands when it starts to fall out, so hopefully it won't be so bad. Must say it's different - was a nice excuse to experiment as I said to my hairdresser it's going to fall out anyway so if I don't like the style it's not goign to matter too much at this stage. She was really good though and I'm lucky that her salon is at her home so when I need to shave it, it can be done privately.
Hope everyone's feeling ok or at least got some support through the bad days, your posts and updates have really helped me get ready for Friday so thank you.
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Arubajan05, looks like I'm right behind you. Starting round 1 of TC today in less than an hour. I hope side effects are easy ones for me too. I see your close by too. I'm in Carlsbad. I got my order in yesterday of hats and scarves and stuff from TLC. They don't seem so bad, some really cute ones. My 11 year old son, Noah, tried them on with me. It was actually very funny. I'm trying to keep him involved without scaring him.
TCPJKK : My oncologist and my Naturalpathic oncologist share information, and my regular onco has been fine with everything that she has me taking so I'm going to keep going with it. She seems to know what she's doing. She removed some of my supplements and added others after I told her which chemo I would be on. I do agree with the healthy diet, I am trying to stick to it some, but it seems a little pointless when I am getting hooked up to poison myself in less than an hour
Well, all; Stay strong- fight hard
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saralmom: I just had my 2nd AC tx yesterday, so I'm there with you (after yours tomorrow) at halfway through AC. Good luck with your hair day tomorrow. Mine is still there, and I think having it cut pretty short beforehand may helped. I saw my onco yesterday, and she was surprised I still had my hair, but she said this will be the week.
Speaking of hair, does anyone know of a good website with instructions on tying scarves? I've got some nice ones and am clueless about how to use them.
KimW, dutchgirl6, and JenC: Good luck with your first treatments today and tomorrow. Most people here have said it went more easily than they expected (including me). The next three or four days are your pamper days.Take the nausea meds they give you for the first few days, drink your water, and follow your stomach's guide in how and what to eat. Oh, and sleep whenever you need to. That will all help you get past the worst of it.
My round 2 of AC was yesterday. Other than minor issues getting my IV in, it went smoothly.Since my white blood cells did so well with the first round of Neupogen injections, I'll only have to do it for five days this cycle instead of eight. At least now I'm prepared for that bone pain. Reading about it just doesn't do it justice.
It's kind of moving each time I in the infusion room and a former patient comes by to say hello to the staff. All the onco nurses know them by name and they hug. I think those nurses are so strong to deal with this kind of disease every day and to treat scared, sick patients with such compassion. Here's to the onco nurses!
Karen
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Saralmom, I hear you about the hair. I'm just 2 days post buzz down to 1/8th inch and I'm still not used to seeing my face in the mirror. I have been trying to make fun (at my own expense) and asked my husband if he likes sleeping beside one of the seven dwarves in their sleeping cap? I mean what else can you do? I have already cried enough over the hair.....it's done and now I just have to live with it.
Toughmom38 I know what you mean about thinking that people are staring at you. I wore my wig in public for the first time today and I keep thinking people realize that I have a wig on. Talk about self-absorbed or what?? I have to get over myself. I'm sure it will get easier as time goes on.
JenC - My oncologist told me that if you're in fairly good health and younger than 50 yrs old, you should be able to manage all the side effects without a problem. Even if you're over 50, the anti-emetics are very good and I felt that most of the nausea was tolerable with the meds (I am 49 yrs old.) That Zofran is pretty great stuff and it seems like everyone gets it. The other one that people are talking about is Emend (which I didn't get). They will keep trying a new drug if the one they have given you doesn't work, so don't be afraid to request a change.
Caltex I'm glad you are not having to shoot up the Neupogen as much....that's a relief.
Good luck to KimW and Dutchgirl6 today...the anticpation is worse than the actual Tx.
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Hi Everyone -
So I have a funny story for you all about hair! So I got my wig last Friday and went to work, I work at the elementary school as the librarian so I see PK through 4th graders. All of the students were great with my hair - most had already heard that I was getting a wig. Some funny comments from them - "Is it glued on?" , "Can you take it off and show us your bald head?", and probably the best one that made me laugh was "WOW Mrs. Kelly you look even better than before!" The kids are so good about it all and very curious. I just love them all and it helps to go there to take my mind off of everything!
Well I do not want Friday to come but hopefully I will get different meds so round 2 is not so bad as the 1st. I have to let these rounds come so that I can get to the end of this and start growing my hair out to look like my wig!!
Take care to those who have had treatments in the past couple of days and to those that are getting them this week yet! Let's hear it for no SE's!!!
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Dutchgirl6
Just wondering how you got along today? I was thinking about you this morning and then realized that with the time change you were still in bed. Hope all went well and congratulations you have one treatment over with. Let the countdown begin.....
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So glad I found this thread. First chemo (TAC) on 4.22 every three weeks x 6. Still figuring out all the abbreviations.Day 5 today...sigh. Hoping each day is better. Such great advice. Will be reading more soon. Good luck to everyone!!
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Hi Ladies... I finally got my go for Chemo to start on May 6th. I will get my port put in on Monday the 3rd. I got fitted for my wig today, was pretty nervous but it wasn't so bad. My step cousin had cancer 5 years ago and had sent me a hat about a month ago with hair on it that I had left sitting in the unopened box it came in afraid to open it up because it made it so real. Well I finally opened it today and tried it on, it was so cute. The hair is a little lighter then mine and longer but I might keep it just to change things up. She also sent me some scarves and bandana's to use that were rather cute. My dd and ds were not too sure about them, but did think the hat looked good.
I am glad that everyone seems to be adjusting well, your posts really mean a lot to me as I get ready for my chemo journey. Thank you!
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Hi All. Well, I made it through Day 1, and it didn't go too badly. I feel ok, a bit lethargic, but not nauseous, those drugs are doing their job. My veins weren't cooperating, so it looks like I will have to be getting a PICC line put in for the rest of the treatment. I wasn't happy about that, but I guess that it is the best solution for me. The poor nurse who was administering the IV push sat there for over an hour altogether just to make sure that the chemo went in a the right speed. I'm sure that her hands must have been sore after she was done. There was a lovely older lady in the chair next to me who also had a PICC and she said that it was no big deal to have one inserted, and that after a few days I would get used to it.
I registered for the Look Good Feel Better workshop next week, that should be fun. I also found out that they have clippers and will shave my head at the Cancer Lodge, so I will definitely go there when the time comes. My hairdresser had offered to come to my house to do it when the time came, but she doesn't have much experience with chemo hair loss, and I think that I would feel more comfortable with the woman at the Lodge.
Marcy4, thanks for your interest. You're right, I was probably still in bed. I slept pretty good last night, hopefully I will tonight too.
Shygal, you were right too, the anticipation, and the waiting, were harder than the Tx.
Here's hoping that all goes well for everyone.
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Hi, I had my left MX on 30/03/2010 and i will be starting chemo today! (in abt 45 mins actually.) Pls add me to the thread. I'm having Epirubicin and cyclophosphamide EC X 4 and the Taxotere for another 4 cycles. Followed by radiation for 3 weeks and then tamoxifen for five years.
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Hi everyone - I'm a March 15 start, but wanted to give some advice to new starters. I had a lumpectomy with lymph node removal. I went to the Physical Therapist early on to get the range of motion back in my arm and the learn about lymphedema. I progressed very well - then stopped doing my exercise and stopped going to PT. About 8 weeks after surgery I developed AWS (auxiliary web syndrome or cording) So I am back to PT and exercise.
If you had the lymph nodes removed - keep up with your exercise through out your treatment. And at the first sign of tightness (it runs from the arm pit, under the arm across the inside of the elbow, to the wrist) see a PT for massage and exercise.
Good luck everyone. I'm half way through my chemo, and while it is now picnic, the predictable nature of the next cycle is comforting.
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SGJ05 - How is your UTI? Did the antibiotics work? Haven't heard from you in a few days...
Question for anyone who has had one or two TX's: Has your body hair started to fall out too? I have not noticed any difference in my arm, underarm or leg hair at all, but certainly the hair is falling in the nether regions....how long before everything goes? Is anyone completely naked yet?
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Thanks for the good thoughts everyone. I hope Dutchgirl 6 had an easy time of it too. The anticipation was deffinately worse than the actual treatment. My first treatment (TC) took 6 hours yesterday because they did the wrong blood draw the day before so had to do it in the chemo place. Then my liver enzymes came back really high (even though first chemo), so they had to call my onco for advise. He proceeded as planned since I'm healthy and 48, and will follow up with another liver test next week. My DH was with me for the first 2 hours, then my two older sons (29 & 21), came and we played cards and laughed so much. No side effects so far, only thing is trouble sleeping because of the steroids, also a little headache, but they said I can't talke anything for the headache because of elevated liver enzymes. Any suggestions?
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I am feeling human again! This is day 7 (? - I went for TX on Thursday). I felt horrible the past couple of days. My first 4 days were nothing but sleep. So yesterday I started with mouth sores and a rash. Thankfully I feel okay so all of this is not too bad.
I go back a week from tomorrow for TX #2. I'm nervous but then I will be 50% done with AC! My shaving is Friday. I figure my hair is too long to wait for it to fall out on it's own. This is one thing I can control so Friday - it's coming off. My husband wants me to have a mohawk for a few minutes. lol I just look forward to getting it over with...that way it is one less thing to worry about.
You ladies have no idea how much I have relied upon you the past few days. Even though I did not post - I read and it made me feel better to have others that "know" what I'm dealing with.
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