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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2010

    The red blood tag study is They take some of your blood out and mix it with an isotope and inject it back in. They follow it with a machine like a bone desity machine that comes within an inch of you. They follow it in to the liver and see how it is absorbed. Its much like  the Cat scan and MRI...same princple.

    I have had a pet scan a couple months ago. The only thing that lit up was my thyroid. I would personally think if there was a problem with the liver it would have showed up on the pet scan. Plus if the Breast cancer traveled to the liver the chemo would have taken care of it. My family doctor agreed.

    I have come to my own conclusion about the doctor's at this center... they have become desensitized to the feelings and emotions of their patients. They don't show any compassion to their patients... do this, do that and they expect you to be a robot and jump when told to. When I failed to follow their orders I am treated like a rebel. Out comes the nasty voice and the uncertainty of life. They should experience the same they put us through. Walk the hallway of the hospital in a gown that doesnt fit ( that would be great on their rounds); have a stranger come in and ask to see their private parts; and get scheduled for 5 tests in a single day (watch them glow at night). Wow! that felt great to vent and get it off my chest.

  • somanywomen
    somanywomen Member Posts: 872
    edited April 2010
    Veggy, you are sooooooooo right about so many of those in the medical field that no longer have any human emotion, it's like they have become part of the machinery that they use...and Docs all have egos and how dare you question or ask for more opinions....It is our lives that they are hanging in the balance while they having thier daily ego-trips.....I'm afraid to tell my surgeon that I am getting a second opinion from a Breast Cancer Specialist for fear he may drop me!!!!
  • mimi1964
    mimi1964 Member Posts: 2,163
    edited April 2010

    Hey ladies I know this is rads posting but would you all pray for my dad he is back in the hospital again with another brain bleed.  He just had surgery last week for this and came home on Thursday.  Thanks

    Renee

  • somanywomen
    somanywomen Member Posts: 872
    edited April 2010

    Sorry about your dad Renee, hope they find out and treat his bleeding..How did they find it?...Did he have symptoms? Wishing him the best!!!

    Had my 6 month left breast mammo/us today and was very nervous since I still have pain and hard fibrous tender areas.....I am so thankful that it was diagnostic (where radiologist reads immediately) no waiting involved....He came in and told me it's all clean!!..I almost cried with relief!!!...Now on to the next mammo 6 months from now for both...But for today,,,,it is a good day!!!!!

  • mimi1964
    mimi1964 Member Posts: 2,163
    edited April 2010

    Jewly... YEAH!!!!! doing the happy dance for you Smile  I hope mine in May goes as well!

    My dad is doing good after his surgery.  He was awake and could speak softly when I left him tonight.  His head was wrapped in a big gauze bandage.  They found the bleed on a CAT scan.  They did and angiogram this morning.  He had a arterial venous fistula and they had to cut a portion of his skull remove the fistual from behind his right eye and put it all back to together.  He will have a 2 month recovery.  He is still in neuro intensivecare.  Thanks for the well wishes!!!

    Renee

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2010

    Renee - Best wishes for your dad.

    I am having my thyroid surgery tomorrow, I hope. I was very sick last night either with a stomch bug, food poisoning, or a case of eating too much too late and then going to bed. I hope whatever it is is over with and I can go through with surgery. I want this OVER! 

  • mimi1964
    mimi1964 Member Posts: 2,163
    edited April 2010

    Best of Luck to you Veggy.  I have had a partial tyroidectomy so I kinda know what you will be going through.  It wasn't to bad.  I had a drain for about 12 hrs before they took it out and then I had my surgery at a "teaching" hospital so I got staples in my throat and not stitches, but keep in mind I had my surgery 21 yrs ago.  LOL!  A lot of things have improved.  The scars aren't bad and the med you will probably have to take, Synthroid, I'm taking now and it isn't bad at all.  I've been on mine for about 3 months and I feel soooo much better on it than I did off of it.  You feel so bad for so long that when you start to feel better you go... "HEY!" I didn't realize till now I felt bad!  I will be praying for you tomorrow.  Big Hugs!!!!

     Renee

  • somanywomen
    somanywomen Member Posts: 872
    edited April 2010
    Thinking of you today Veggy...Hope all goes as best as possible with surgery.....I am sure you are more than ready to let the healing begin.......update us when you feel like it......
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2010

    I'm Home!!!! I'm tired but it is all over with. My throat is sore from being intubated and it is worse than the surgery. I had a drain but it was small. Pulling the tape off of the skin was more painful than pulling out the drain. I have no problem turning my head which surprised me. I have stitches on the inside of the incision, glue on top of that and tape.

    Best part of all...

    I have been DE-PORTED!!!!! The port is out!!! When I woke up the first thing I did was put my hand there to see if I could feel it. It was gone!!! They have to send it to another hospital to check it out for some reason and then they are going to send it back to me. I am going to smash it, burn it, and then burn it agin while I dance around the fire. It feels great not having that foreign thing inside of me.

    Thanks everyone for being here and helping me through all of this. Your comments, prayers and (((((HUGS))))) cheered me through some of the roughest parts. Thank you! Thank you! Thank YOu!

  • mimi1964
    mimi1964 Member Posts: 2,163
    edited April 2010

    Oh yeah, oh yeah, here here... I proclaim Veggy is cancer free and port free!! LOL!!  :=)  Hugs to you sweety!!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2010

    Thank You Mimi! Thank you for your proclaimation! Anyone else want to second that? I wanted to make sure we are all in agreement! :)

  • somanywomen
    somanywomen Member Posts: 872
    edited April 2010

    HEAR YE HEAR YE....I SECOND THAT PROCLAIMATION FOR SURE!!!!!!...

    ON TO GREAT HEALING VEGGY......................

  • somanywomen
    somanywomen Member Posts: 872
    edited April 2010
    To All.........My 6 month mammo/ultrasound looked great (birads 2).....I am although still sore and have wierd sensations so I wanted to see my mammo/us and look at areas of concern under my arm at sentinal removal area where It feels like a burr/sandspur irritating from under my skin.....I drive my surgeon crazy with all my questions but he did show my my mammo (they put them on cd now, so he pulls if up for me to view) and low and behold right there at that area is 6, yes 6 surgical clips all in a clump!!!!...He tells me this is normal and that they are better to use than sutchers....When I asked if that is what has been irritating me, he says NO, yet in my mind it makes perfect sense that this would be cause..He tells me to trust my doctor and give another 6 months of healing and if it is still a problem we would discuss options then if I wanted them out...As long as they do not cause a long term problem I can deal with them....Do any of you know if you have clips left in, ask to view your mammo when you have one, I was very suprised at the number of these left in.....
  • adrienne2
    adrienne2 Member Posts: 183
    edited April 2010

    Renee, I'm glad to hear that your father is doing better.

    Veggy, many congratulations on finishing surgery and being de-ported. Time to celebrate!

    Somanywomen, I'm sorry that your sentinel node incision is still bothering you. Mine finally quit a few weeks after ending rads. I don't know if I have clips or sutures, though.

    To all: I hope you are doing well and enjoying the improving weather.

    adrienne 

  • mimi1964
    mimi1964 Member Posts: 2,163
    edited April 2010

    Adriene it is so good to hear from you... I didn't know what had happened to you!  You've not been around much.  How are you? 

    Jewly, I do know that i have at least one clip left in and that is all I was told about.  

    Renee

  • adrienne2
    adrienne2 Member Posts: 183
    edited April 2010

    Hi Renee,

    Thanks for wondering about me. I've been feeling wonderful. I'm having only very minimal side-effects from the Tamoxifen so far (it's been a bit less than 2 months), and I'm hoping that continues. 

    I'm trying to get in shape for a 62-mile bike ride that's coming up in a week and a half. Normally I'd be in good shape by this time of year, but there were a few distractions this winter :) I did manage to ride 40 miles today, so I think I'll be fine. I'm slower than I was last year, but at least I'm riding.

    It's great to spend time thinking about and doing things that aren't cancer-related. I'm amazed, though, at how often cancer, especially breast cancer, is mentioned in the paper and on TV. Sometimes I just can't seem to get away from it. 

    I wish you well,

    adrienne 

  • BonnieSF
    BonnieSF Member Posts: 101
    edited April 2010

    Greetings everyone!

    Vegie, so glad your surgery is over and your port is out. Now you can HEAL!!!

    Jewly: I'm so surprised that 6 clips were left in. Sounds like they meant for them to be permanent. It seems to make sense that these have been bothering you. So glad your mammogram was clear!

    Renee: Sorry to hear about your dad. Hope he's improving.

    Adrienne, it's so nice to hear how well you are doing, and that the tamoxifen is not too bad for you.

    Me: I've finally got an appt with the oncologist scheduled in early May. Do not have a mammo scheduled yet.  Quit the tamoxifen on March 30 and I'm not all the way back yet. Boy did that stuff kick my butt. I am not optimistic about how much help the oncologist will be. Oh well. I need to get my own anti-recurrence regimen going: exercise, eat right, stress reduction. I'm doing pretty well in this, but could do better. 

    Bonnie

  • somanywomen
    somanywomen Member Posts: 872
    edited April 2010

    Adrienne and Bonnie....nice to see you back...

    WOW! Adrienne 40-60 mile bike ride, and I thought my 2-4 miles a week walk was good, what a wimp I am....

    Bonnie, did not know you had so much trouble with tamoxifen, so far I don't have many se's from arimidex..

    It's funny how my surgeon just flat out does not think that the clump, yes clump of surgical clips could be giving me the irritation feeling as though something is rubbing from under my skin...You should see the xray, it is a big (6 clips) clump intertwined exactly where the sensations are..Just seem logical to me!!!...He told me to ignore it and trust my doctor....

    I also saw a breast cancer surgeon yesterday in Orlando, I couldn't believe how many women were there for appts....Basically, I had wanted a second opinion, since I really don't have a breast doctor (have gen surgeon and gen onco) I had a question about pagent's since I had redness and itchyness...Both she and my surgeon said no I do not have pagents...She told me if I were under her care that they do the mammos/us and a yearly mri, also they do a abdomen ct every year...I guess they are really thorough, that seems like a lot of cts....I don't think I will change doctors but I do see the relevance of having a breast expert...They even had me do a ultrasound yesterday, said it was standard for first visit (even though I brought copies of my mammos and ultrasounds and said I had just had one last Friday) I told them that only if my insurance approved it since I had just had one, I asked the assitant to make sure about my ins, she came back in and assured my it was covered, but I'm still wondering if it was about boosting $$ for visit....

    Renee....What is the size of a surgical clip, they look huge in my mammo......

    Veggy, hope your recovery is going great!!

  • adrienne2
    adrienne2 Member Posts: 183
    edited April 2010

    Bonnie, I'm really sorry that you had so much trouble with Tamoxifen. Isn't it weird how different we all are? I have allergic reactions to laundry soap residue in clothing, yet Tamoxifen doesn't bother me. Go figure. Meanwhile, it sounds as if you are doing the right thing with your anti-recurrence regimen. Are you feeling better now?

    Jewly, I hope your sentinel node incision quits bothering you soon. Glad to hear that you don't have Paget's -- that must be a relief.

    adrienne 

  • mimi1964
    mimi1964 Member Posts: 2,163
    edited April 2010

    Jewly they told me my clip was very small only millimeters big.  I have not had a follow up mammo yet.  The only one I know about it the one they left after my first biopsy so they could find where to do the partial mastectomy.  I don't if I have anymore in they didn't tell me.  Guess I will find out when I have the mammo. 

    Renee

  • somanywomen
    somanywomen Member Posts: 872
    edited April 2010

    Where is everyone???....Renee, hope your dad is doing better...Veggy, how are you??...How is everyone????

    Here is some info that I thought I would pass along to all that are interested.....I eat a lot of kiwi and got sidetracked when I was searching it's estrogen amounts....I always get sidetracked!!!!

    .............

    Estrogen inhibiting foods
    Fruits: Citrus fruits (kiwi, oranges, pineapple), berries
    (strawberries), grapes, melons, pears, fresh Chinese date (jujube),
    uncooked tomatoes, coconuts
    Vegetables: broccoli, cabbage, green beans, onions, corn, all
    squashes, bamboo
    Grains: White rice, white flour  

    Collagen and estrogen rich foods (eat less of)
    Fruits: Apples, cherries, papaya, dates, pomegranates (eat the seeds
    too), plums, avocado, banana, peach, corn
    Vegetables: Beets, carrots, cucumbers, peppers, eggplants, tomatoes,
    potato, wild yam/Japanese naga/huai-shan (rich in DHEA), olives,
    seaweed, lettuce, asparagus, eggplant
    Grains: Barley, oats, hops, rice, wheat
    Seeds & nuts: Flaxseeds, fennel, alfalfa, sunflower seeds, peanuts,
    walnuts, sesame
    Beans: red beans, soybeans/soybean milk/tofu and their sprouts
    Herbs and spices: Garlic, parsley
    Meat: chicken feet, pig knuckle, beef
    Seafood: shrimp, clams, fish w skin on
    Dairy: yogurt, cheese, eggs, milk

    Organic foods are not grown or raised with pesticides or added hormones, so they give the liver a break by not adding extra toxins or estrogens into the system..(Foods that aid in liver detox are onions, garlic, egg yolks, lemons, limes, spinach, leafy greens and brussels sprouts.)

    Only one cup of coffee per day could increase estrogen levels, and more than four cups of coffee raised the level 70 percent higher than the one cup level. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2010

    Somanywomen- I have been around mostly playing the games on this site. I haven't seen anyone on this site. Hopefully they are all okay and just normal everday things.

    I have been through thyroid surgery and during the surgery they took the port out! I woke up from anithesia, felt where the port was, found out it was gone, smiled and went back to sleep. Its great being De-Ported! I have the scar from the thyroid slowly going away. I hate the scar so I cover it up with my turtle necks. The report came back that the Hurthle Cell Cancer was confined in the nodules and they got all of it. Now I am Thyroid cancerfree.  I think now I need time to emotionally and physically heal from this year's he**! 

    I asked if I could have the port back after surgery. They didn't know if they could give it to me because I was the first one to ask for it. I got it. Now when I am ready I am going to have a party. I am going to smash it then burn it and whe the flames die down... I'll burn it again. The surgen showed me thed x-ray pictures and cat scan pictures of that thing in me.

  • mimi1964
    mimi1964 Member Posts: 2,163
    edited April 2010

    Jewly and veggy I'm here!! I'm not sure where Adrienne has been.  My dad is better.  He got to come home on Monday evening.  He will have to go  back on the 27th and see the Neurosurgeon and have another CAT scan to check the fluid on his brain.  The bleed stopped.  I have been really busy this week and this is the first chance i've had to get on here.  Usually I try to get on every day or every couple of days.  Hope ya'll are doing well?

    Renee

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2010

    Renee - I'm glad your dad is doing better and home. He's probably getting more rest at home than at the hospital. I can't sleep in hospitals. The nurses at night are too loud. By the way.. how have you been besides busy?

  • BonnieSF
    BonnieSF Member Posts: 101
    edited April 2010

    I'm here too, you guys!

    Veggy, glad your surgeries are DONE! Have fun punishing that port!

    Jewly, I'm so bummed I can't have any more chicken feet! ha ha  That list is kind of confusing, because some foods are good for some things, but bad for estrogen. Like parsley - it's good because is suppresses angiogenesis (production of blood vessels) which is good for fighting cancer, but bad because it promotes estrogen. It's a great list to have, though, for making choices. THanks for posting it. Where did you find it?

    Rene: I'm glad your dad is home. 

    Greetings Adrienne! I'm glad you don't suffer from tamoxifen. I'm jealous, but glad for you! 

    I'm just about back to feeling normal after quitting tamoxifen on March 30. The pain is pretty much gone, although the 7 pounds are still here (grrrr). I have been reading it seems that without tamoxifen, there is a 15% recurrence rate and with tamoxifen it's 10%. That 5% is absolutely not worth what I went through the 6 weeks I was on T. I have an appt with the oncologist in two weeks. I have a feeling we won't see eye to eye :(

    When I was having radiation, I often felt a strange fatigue in the afternoons. What's funny is that lately that has been happening again lately. Also, the redness where the radiation was is noticable again Has that happened to anyone else? It's like I'm having radiation again!  But it's not bad or anything, just weird. 

    Take care, everyone!

    Bonnie

  • mimi1964
    mimi1964 Member Posts: 2,163
    edited April 2010

    Bonnie, my nipple is still pinkish red, but nothing major.  It's never really went away since my rads ended.  Also, my nipple on my rads breast is larger than the healthy breast even though the entire rads breast itself is smaller.  HaHaHa!!! I guess I'm wierd huh?  Honestly I think that probably happened because they gave me  so many boosts to my nipple area which is where my tumor was located or directly behind it.  I'm hoping it will shrink back to normal size eventually and match the other side.  I still have some tightness under my arm where the SNB and partial mastectomy was done but it's not painful.  I wonder if it will ever go away and be normal.  I also still get twinges of pain that shoot through my breast it's very strange when that happens.  Jewly I know you have something similar.  But mine isn't a constant.

    Veggy otherwise I'm doing good.  I've had a lot of sinus probs this spring which I hate.  Spring is not my fav time of the year.  YUCK!!! Work has been so busy.  Many nights I don't get home till 6:30 or 7 it stinks.  But it pays the bills and they have been very good to me.  I still haven't gotten all my energy back.  Work is about all I do.  My house looks like a  hurricane blew through.  Getting the clothes done and the dishes is a chore and that's all I manage to accomplish.  Mopping floors, bathrooms, vaccuming, etc. has become a thing of the past and takes a big back seat.  Plus we have been trying to remodel as well.  I try to spend time watching my fav t.v. shows and with my family.  If the house isn't clean OH WELL!!! It will be there when I feel better.  It's only been a little over 2 months since I finished rads and I'm still tired.   Hugs!

    Renee

  • somanywomen
    somanywomen Member Posts: 872
    edited April 2010

    Veggy...sounds like a fun "port burning" party....Yippee....congrats on thyroid being all clear...

    Renee, I have been trying to ignore soreness in surgery area, my doc says give it another 6 months..lol...I'm with you on putting the housework on the back burner...We were in the process of some remodeling when this bc crapola came up and still have not made it a priority...I find that I put off all that I can when something more fun comes up to do...I am loving my long walks on the beach with my friends and sitting at the tiki bar on the pier over the ocean, watching the surfers, drinking a glass of resveratrol (red wine)...I try to do that at least twice a week...

    Bonnie, I get lost on the computer and started thinking the other day to check to see if I am eating foods that may have too much estrogen in them so I start typing in search "foods high in estrogen" and start going to websites for info, when I find same info on many sites, I start believing them...I'm also trying to weigh out the good/bad benefits of some of these foods...I don't know what I am going to do with all my "pig knuckle, chicken feet" recipes that I have saved for years....We eat a lot of cabbages, little red meat, less other meat and always hormone/pesticide free, grass fed when I can find it..

    Here is more info that I have found when I get sidetracked on my hunt for info... here is what I found out about white flour...

    White flour    Why would wheat be on the list of foods rich in estrogens but white flour would be on the list of estrogen blocking foods? Doesn't make sense right? Actually, it DOES and illustrates a VERY important point.   What do you get when you add water to white flour? Glue/ paste, right? ...it is "glue" and it does coat and stick to the villi of the duodenum. In this case, it coats the villi and blocks the absorption of the ESTROGENS in the food.   And here is info on cleanest (less pesticide) foods and worst (most pesticides)
     According to the Environmental Working Group, when it comes
    to conventionally-grown produce, these are the 12 cleanest
    kinds you can buy:
    Twelve "cleanest non-organic foods"

    • Asparagus
    • Avocados
    • Bananas
    • Broccoli
    • Cauliflower
    • Corn (sweet) AVOID: Probably Genetically Modified
    • Kiwi
    • Mangos
    • Onions
    • Papaya
    • Pineapples
    • Peas (sweet)
    We don't recommend basing your diet solely on this list, but it's a
    good healthy start towards meals that won't kill your appetite.
    Since the EWG reports that more than half of our total dietary
    risk from pesticides comes from just 12 foods:
    Tweleve "RISKIEST foods
    • Apples
    • Bell Peppers
    • Celery
    • Cherries
    • Imported Grapes
    • Nectarines
    • Peaches
    • Pears
    • Potatoes
    • Red Raspberries
    • Spinach
    • Strawberries
    avoiding these foods for the most part, substituting from the clean list above, and eating organic and/or homegrown produce whenever possible can substantially cut down on your exposure to pesticides.
      I don't know how to get rid of all the font problems, just happens when I copy/paste....
  • BonnieSF
    BonnieSF Member Posts: 101
    edited April 2010

    Thanks for the list of foods, Jewly.

    Six months after surgery and three months after radiation, I'm suddenly having swelling and pain. Anyone else have this? This weekend I exercised more than I have for a long time, so maybe that's it, but it's not like have been doing nothing all this time.

    I have also been noticing that my right shoulder and underarm and chest have been tighter and tighter lately, and that stretching is painful. Maybe it's related to scar tissue from radiation? 

    I keep trying to proceed as if I didn't have cancer, and this is just not part of my plan! 

    I see the grumpy, bored oncologist next week for my first followup appointment. Maybe he'll have something useful to say (ha ha). 

    Bonnie

  • adrienne2
    adrienne2 Member Posts: 183
    edited April 2010

    Veggy, congratulations on being de-ported. I can just visualize you smashing that port. How great that you are thyroid cancer-free, too. Yippee!

    Renee, my rads nipple is a little larger than the other, too, and for quite a while it was standing at attention most of the time. Lately, though, it is starting to behave more like the other one, and seems to be returning to its normal size. I'm putting calendula lotion on it every day.

    Renee and Jewly, I'm sorry about your incision area pain. Mine is mostly gone at last, although I get occasional twinges in the SNB area.

    Renee, I'm right there with you w.r.t. being a bit slack on housework and I don't even have your excuse of being busy at work.These days, I do the important and fun stuff first, and deal with the housework only when I have plenty of time. Oh, I keep the laundry and dishes done and the kitchen clean, but I just don't care if the rest of the house gets a little dusty.

    Bonnie, I'm sorry to hear about the pain and swelling you're experiencing. I hope it's just a reaction to your weekend's exercise spurt.

    I am also feeling muscle tightness in my underarm and chest, and it's starting to hurt when I do my daily stretches. I think you're right that this is related to scarring from rads. Hopefully the stretches will keep it under control. I'm also taking vitamin E to help with the scarring of the small lymphatics and blood vessels.

    To All: I hope you are enjoying Spring. What a great time to be healing. 

    adrienne 

  • mimi1964
    mimi1964 Member Posts: 2,163
    edited April 2010

    Adrienne so nice to hear from you!  Glad you are doing well and enjoying spring.  I don't think my muscle tightness is from rads it has pretty much been present since I had my SNB.  I just think it's from everything being cut.  Oh well.  My breast doesn't hurt in my SNB site it hurts at times in the bottom quadrant where the surg removed so much tissue and did my first biopsy.  Kinda wierd.  LOL!

    Have a great week!

    Renee

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