March 2010 Chemo Start

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  • frosty1
    frosty1 Member Posts: 420
    edited April 2010

    Kayne -- my massive hair jump came on day 13 AFTER round 2 ... so you have hope!  So far armpit hair, top of head, thighs have no hair.  Still have other hair.  I think it is so weird how this affects us all differently and what the chemo attacks. 

    On the leg edema - I do have compression socks and now that I know this seems to be a regular SE, I will put them on MOnday morning instead of waiting.  I will ask about cutting my Dec dose as well -- I hate that feeling and I don't need the weight gain. 

    Went to rollerderby last night.  What a hoot!  One of the derby gals took off her helmet and she had a hairstyle just like mine!  Patchy and mangy looking! 

    Comforting week to all ...

  • alison34
    alison34 Member Posts: 138
    edited April 2010

    hi Dublin

    i am so feeling the same thoughts  as you are so don't feel your alone with them

    what if's and buts

    i just have to keep kicking them back and trying to move on

    hope your feeling better today

  • JLLG
    JLLG Member Posts: 27
    edited April 2010

    I am on the same SE path as the last time......bloated, bloated, bloated.  White furry tongue.  Oh yeah, wouldn't want to forget the bloating!.....

    I spent last night in the BR.  The last time I vomited like I did last night was in 1986 after riding the Tilt O Whirl at the County Fair......thought I was gonna die................

    Oh yeah.....would hate to not mention again the bloating and stomach issues coming around again this time. The Prilosec does not seem to do much......  I am sooo sick of the whine that comes out of me.....

    I did move all my plants out to my 3 Season porch today.  I then sat in the rocking chair and read "Of Mice and Men".  Been at least 38 years since I read that book.  When I was diagnosed, I went crazy in my head.  Whirling thoughts, plans on what I wanted to do in my life, places I wanted to go....I just knew I was going to die and would never see any to fruition.  Well, that is not true.  And out of all that whirling chaos I came up with a personal bucket list just for myself....to re-read a couple of books, to pick up knitting again, to really take care of my physical being, to travel the US with my husband on our Harleys, to use my ears more than my mouth, and to finally forgive myself for things I can not go back and change.  I really hate cancer, but it has changed me....for the better.  It has made me stronger, it has made me more forgiving, it has given me humility. 

    Oh yeah....makes me bloat too!  LOL!!!

    Peace to all of you...may your daily struggles be less and less.......

  • hereandnow
    hereandnow Member Posts: 322
    edited April 2010

    good morning all, it's funny writing here sometimes knowing most of you are still asleep while I'm just having my breakfast :).

    My number 3 hairclipping has worn down at the sides and back, so I'm looking a bit like a moth eaten Mr T.  I'm just lurking around home until I have the need to get out for a walk, was a bit quiet yesterday. I too had spoken to my onc and have been able to cut my dexamethasone in half - for the FEC it's just for nausea, and the other meds have been good enough. I believe though that for the taxotere, it's a bit more about decreasing allergic reaction, so it'll have to be bymped back up.   I'm definately feeling less jumpy and weird this time, and I think less fluid retention  (last time I became a bit short of breath on about day 4).

    They struggled with my veins this treatment too, so I'm thinking of getting a port.

    I hope everyone is finding ways to get through the physical and emotional side effects of all this. This forum helps me so much, thanks for being here.

    lisa

  • LillyC
    LillyC Member Posts: 64
    edited April 2010
    Day3 after TX#2 of TC - Worst day yet basically due to constipation. I think I didn't drink enough water this time.  Be sure to keep yourself hydrated.  I will from now on, that's for sure!   Counting on tomorrow being a much better day!!!  Love to you all!   
  • mamaof3bugs
    mamaof3bugs Member Posts: 198
    edited April 2010

    hereandnow I had my port place and I love it!! I am so happy I got it, I listened to the nurse in the bay next to me struggle to get a good vein on the patient.  I would highly suggest it, mine has never given me any discomfort other than the healing process.  Good luck! 

    LillyC I had the big ole C with my last treatment and I will be taking senokot this time BEFORE #2 this time! 

    xoxo Angi

  • Dublin4
    Dublin4 Member Posts: 158
    edited April 2010

    Charley, hmh23 and everyone else,

    Thank you....I am much better this morning.  I know that my prognosois is a very very good one, but sometimes the whole thing is just to much. I have a  friend who keeps telling my don't look to far down the road or you will forget how far you have already come.  I think that is true for all of us.  We are past the initial shock, surgery and into the treatment.  Some of us will have a surgery that we look forward to, the exchange of the TE's.  (they are so awkward for me.  I am really looking forward to July when they will be more in the right place, no iron bar and softer.)

    I keep telling myself I can not recover from this and move forward until I am through with the chemo part.   I just hate the whole assault it puts on your body, appearance and mind.  

    This to shall past and time it the great healer.

    Charley, I hope you are feeling much better today and remember you are half way done!!!!!

      

  • staceyt
    staceyt Member Posts: 106
    edited April 2010

    Good Morning Marchers,

    Kayne: I ordered my bandannas from Headcovers.com, they are 36" and cover my whole head.  I looked on Utube to learn how to tie them.  I did not get a wig, just didn't seem to be me, I'm a country girl that lives in the Adirondacks so bandaana's and "do" rags are for me.

    JLLG : Your posts are so uplifting and put a smile on my face every time I read them - THANK YOU !.

    ELH - Thinking of you, #3 tomorrow, then only 1 more to go. 

    Riding season is just around the corner, can't wait to get out there and ride. 

    Best to all Hugs and prayers to all my Sisters. - Stacey

  • hmh23
    hmh23 Member Posts: 306
    edited April 2010

    Lisa;  Go for the port...My onc did not really give me a choice but I have two dear friends who opted not to for the frist few treatments and then took the leap.  Both feel that it was the best decision for them.  My port has been a godsend for me.  Well, that's my two cents! Good luck with your decision. Heather

    PS.  I had shortness of breath as well around Day 4 following my first AC treatment. Going to mention it to my onc when I see him on Monday.

  • hmh23
    hmh23 Member Posts: 306
    edited April 2010

    LillyC;

    Miralax, miralax, miralax...need I say more.  I also had terrible constipation 3 days out of my first AC. I felt like I was delivering babies again.  Anyhow, I would also recommend 2 Green Tea extract tablets each night as well.  It is a very reliable natural way to help with the big C

    Heather

  • undecided8
    undecided8 Member Posts: 194
    edited April 2010

    ABSOLUTELY agree with the Miralax. I used it last time I did chemo too and it really works great! Nothing worse than being nauseated and constipated at the same time. You can mix it with just about anything to drink and I personally cannot taste it. I do have a question about the hair issue. I opted to shave my head the last time I did chemo because I absolutely could NOT stand losing it in clumps. This time though I'm on a different chemo regimen and although it's really coming out it's not in clumps like the last time. I'm 5 days post 2nd Taxotere/herceptin treatment and wondering if I should just hold out this time because I ended up not losing it all the last time. This is my question for those who choose NOT to shave it. What do you do at night to keep it from getting ALL over your bed and pillow?? I thought about wearing those nets over my hair to bed? Just looking for suggestions as to how to avoid the hair ALL over my bed and pillow if I'm not going to shave it yet. Hope everyone is hanging in there and side affects are minimal. Take Care!

    Suzanne E.

  • Charley
    Charley Member Posts: 255
    edited April 2010

    hereandnow - I would definitely agree that the port is the way to go although having it put in was not exactly a picnic for me.  They led me to believe that it would take 20 minutes, simple process, but it ended up taking them over an hour and I was sore for about a week afterward - probably from them twisting and turning me me trying to get a good vein. But I definitely think that it is worth it.  My veins for some reason aren't the best so sometimes it would take a several sticks to get a good one.  And I hate it when they say - "Sorry, is this hurting?"  YES IT IS HURTING!

    I'm better today!  Thanks for all the well wishes! Actually went for a walk around the neighborhood.  Beautiful weather.  I'm sure I will be back to work tomorrow. But I'm glad for that. 

    JLLG - I remember getting sick like that on the tilt -o-whirl too as a teenager! Hope you are better today. Sounds like you've got a great bucket list going. 

    Dulbin4 - July will be here before you know it! That will probably be close to when I have my exchange too.  (4 weeks after I am done with this mess) Every day is a step closer ...

    Hugs to all, Charley

  • Dublin4
    Dublin4 Member Posts: 158
    edited April 2010

    Charley,

    Mine will be about 4 weeks after the chemo as well.  I will be bald but no more iron bra!   I really am looking forward to that part.  I have only had two fills but I think I am about the size I was pre all this *&$#.  One side is a little bigger then the other but apparently that is very common and the PS will correct at the time of exchange.  I have seen photos of his work and it is wonderful so I trust him and can't wait until July or really the end of May to be done with chemo!!!!!!!!!!!

    Hope you continue to feel better each hour of each day!

  • LillyC
    LillyC Member Posts: 64
    edited April 2010

    Feeling a little better today.  I don't have the problem of yesterday, but just feel worn out and have had a nosebleed.  I've really tried to be "up" throughout this, but have found myself a bit down today. Tonight I am supposed to go to a Feel Good Look Good class at the hospital.  I sure hope I feel like going as I could certainly use it today!  I'll report about it all tomorrow when I WILL feel much better. One day at a time, doable and temporary......

    As far as hair loss- I never shaved mine, but instead just let it come out.  As you can tell from my picture, it was various shades of white, gray, brown/black ,and very thick.  Everything left but the white!!!  I thought it would be the first to go.  I still have quite a bit and am not shedding any more, but look so old with all this white.  Do you think I will lose the rest of it after this second treatment?  Or do you just lose it once? 

  • Charley
    Charley Member Posts: 255
    edited April 2010

    LilyC - Isn't that how it goes?  I mean the white hair?  I'm sure mine will come back grey/white and curly.  At that point I will be glad to have anything, right? Of course I don't know the "real" color of my hair since I haven't seen it's natural color in about 10 years. ;-) Have fun at the class tonight and hope you feel better.  I had a great time when I went to one last week!

  • JLLG
    JLLG Member Posts: 27
    edited April 2010

    Did I forget to mention in my last post that the bloating has occured again?  In case I didn't mention it, I figure now is the time to say it is back.  Gee.............

    And living in New Hampshire I have always wanted a fur scarf....but lo and behold, what do I get....a fur tongue.....gotta love it.....

    I have been on a course of Diflucan and just when it seems to be getting the "Thrush" and mouth ulcers under control, it comes rushing back.  I have read everything I can possibly read on this condition and have been diligent about mouth care, not eating sweets, keeping my carb levels low and steady.  I have avoided dairy products except for yogurt that contains acidophilus, not eating mushrooms, no dried fruit....on and on....I am now swish and swallowing Nystatin.....

    Does anyone have a hint on what else I can do to conquer this fur thing???? ( I am quickly losing my sense of humor with this issue.....)

    Maybe some supplemental acidophilus caps........Maybe a Cider Vinegar mouthrinse...?

    I also read that a study was done using lemon grass, but with the ulcers, I decided that probably was not something I would try...

    Everyday seems to bring with it some challenge or another when it comes to chemo.....I will continue to stay positive and I will continue to smile even when I want to scream really really bad vulgar to the core words.............(I hope) 

    P.S.   I love white hairs.....sort of like little wires sticking out of my scalp...LOL!

    Peace to you all

  • Joj129
    Joj129 Member Posts: 13
    edited April 2010

    Hi Everyone! I hope it is ok if I join this "club that no one wants to join" late. I just found this site and have found it to be great. I started my chemo on March 25, 2010, taxotere/cytoxan. I didn't have any problems to speak of, never got sick just tired and constipated. Miralax did not help me. My husband and I took a pre-35th wedding anniversary weekend away in Maine this past weekend since I wasn't sure how I would feel after my next treatment this coming Thursday - that is where my hair started to fall out. I wanted to have it cut short but was told by 2 wig ladies not to do it. I wish I had done it.I knew it was coming but apparently I was in denial. The week after chemo, my whole head was tingly but was told I wouldn't lose my hair until after my 2nd treatment. A few days before it started to fall out it was tingly again but in a different way, hurt to lay down. Anyway, I read somewhere about using baby shampoo before I had my head shaved so I decided to use it this morning. Not a great suggestion! My hair matted on each side of my head and it certainly isn't pretty. Wig lady is going to shave my head but she was not opened today. I was much better about it today because I know I need to have it done and it makes me one step closer to being done. I hope you are all doing well. I am so happy I found this site. Take care!

  • Kayne
    Kayne Member Posts: 103
    edited April 2010

    So this how my day went:   cooler packed, check    bag packed, check   hubby has computer + work packed, check.  Get to Onc. at 11:00, get in at 11:15- great should be hooked up to the poison  by noon.  Nurse comes in and asks again where I had my blood work done, tell her Quest.  She says they don't have record of you giving blood on Fri.  Oh yes I was there, i waited 1 hour to have that blood drawn.  She says , I called 3 times no luck.  give her the address, description of the women who took my blood.  Dr. comes in, all is good, looks at my scabs - yes I still have scabs from my incisions from 8 weeks ago.  They'll fall off she says.  Really, when-- not looking like anytime soon.   Can see the impression through my cami and shirt.  hmmm , need that blood-work, oh don't worry I say, I feel really good, not tired anymore.  Knock, knock, blood-work comes in and Dr. says, this is exactly why I need the blood-work.  My liver enzymes are very elevated.  They were after the surgery as well, which was attributed to the anesthesia.  They did come down, but it pushed back chemo.   Oh we cannot do Chemo today with these numbers.   WHAT???????? ARE YOU KIDDING ME????? And that is how my day went.  No Chemo and an appt. with a new Dr. to see what the cause of the liver is.  And if they don't come down enough we wait another week.  ARE YOU SERIOUS??   The plus side is no worries about my hair falling out by Friday.  I'll make it through the prom with my hair.  And will be feeling good.  Sigh  Think Positive, think positive----  We did go out to a nice lunch.  I figure with my liver they are going to cut off my white wine!!!  

    JLLG - Have you tried Magic Mouthwash -- My onc. said to ask the chemo nurses for some, she said it works really well for mouth sores.  Not sure about the fuzz.  Hope you feel better.  Good days are ahead!

     Charley -- I have a port as well and I thought the same as you.  No big deal having it put in.  But afterwards, I felt like he beat me up.  At the time I didn't have full range of motion and I think the way my arm was strapped down really stretched it.  It hurt me for a week.  But I'm still glad I did it.

    Joj129-- Welcome but I am sorry you are here. But it is a good place to come to.  I refer to everyone as my cyber girls to my husband.

    Wishing everyone a free SE night!!

  • Kayne
    Kayne Member Posts: 103
    edited April 2010

    All - thanks for the replys regarding when my hair loss.may occur - 

    Heather -Thanks for suggestion regarding my hair.  I had decided since your advise to go on Thursday (couldn't go on Wed)  to have my wig fitted.  Obviously things have changed.  And so sweet to ask for picutres!  Michelle

  • frosty1
    frosty1 Member Posts: 420
    edited April 2010

    Charley - I know what you mean about your real haircolor! My hairdresser and I laughed when she gave me the 1/4" cut before I started chemo.  And, Lilly, what's up with only the gray left? My DD says I look like a baby orangutan -- the gray hairs are long and stick up straight from the top of my head.  My head has stopped feeling so tender, so I put a bit of shampoo on and then rub rub rub with a washcloth.  That is getting the rest off -- except for a weird strip on the back of my head.  No beauty contests for me anytime soon ...

    Kayne - so sorry to hear you had to postpone your chemo.  It is odd to be sad about postponing something that causes so much grief, but missing one means you have longer to go.

    Welcome joj129!  Nice to have you in our group.

    JLLG - how's your bloating? Laughing  Seriously -- cider vinegar mouthwash?  Ugghh.  Hope you find something that helps soon.

    #3 for me coming up on Wednesday.  Half way!

  • barb_k
    barb_k Member Posts: 76
    edited April 2010

    Starting to lose my hair now.Dh noticed it in the BR trash and she said Mom you lost almost as much as me. My son say's he is going to keep his head shaved until my hair grows in. I Asked my step grandaughter what color of hair she wanted my to come to her gradualtion with if I can make it to GA. I gave her a choice between purple or pink. No answer yet. HA!!!! My head does not tingle yet. I'm guessing  it will all come out after Wed. after second chemo.

    joj129 looks like we may be pretty close in our treatments. My first was Mar 25th, But my Dr. has changed his days here to Wed's so I am 1 day ahead this time. will get it on the 14th.

    Charley: I also have a port. getting it put in was not a real problem. The site was sore.and it is still sore to the touch. Had it put in on March the 17th. It is great to not get stuck and have all the bruising as I bruise really bad. But on the other hand I'll be glad to get it out. It is in the way of bra straps, and when I move just right. Maybe I'm just really sensitive in that area.

    Oh Well it is only temperary. Right?

  • mamaof3bugs
    mamaof3bugs Member Posts: 198
    edited April 2010

    Okay so a few thing tonight.  First off I am 12 days out from chemo #1 and my hair (what hair I have left after having it buzzed) is starting to fall out.  Not a surprise but still kinda freaky!  My husband, bless his heart, thinks I'm sexy without my hair, remember the movie GI Jane? Go figure Smile  Anyway my mouth sores and heartburn are out of control and I will be having my second chemo on Wednesday and I am worried because they are only going to get worse.  Ugggh not looking forward to it.  For those of you that have had DD AC #2 did your SEs get a ton worse or stay the same?  I am thinking I may just take a few of my xanax and sleep through the week LOL.  Oh and a new SE I am lucky enough to experience...dry eyes.  Riddle me this, why is it that when you have DRY eyes they constantly water??  LOL  I hope everyone is having a fabulous night/day, 'cause it seems that with chemo each day is better than the last!  NOT :D  xoxo Angi

  • hereandnow
    hereandnow Member Posts: 322
    edited April 2010

    hello all,  mamaof3bugs - apparently an eye drop called systane is good for dry eyes. Have you organised a Proton pump inhibitor (PPI) like losec or nexium for your heartburn- your onc should be able to increase the dose if it's not at maximum.

    I spoke to my onc today and they had a multidisciplinary meeting last night, and reviewed my case - a second opinion had been requested on my pathology due to some uncertainty in the reporting, and it's come back as grade 2 rather than grade 3. Not much of a difference but to my advantage so I'll take it. Also, the tiny thing in my right lung, the radiologist said he'd eat his hat if it comes back as a nasty - he thinks it's scar tissue - so I"m hoping the man never has to eat his hat - re-scan in 3 months.

    I wore my wig out for the first time today - have been feeling a little low after the last chemo, and had to get out. I've decided that my red wig is just a little much in the bright light of day - I feel like it doesn't look very natural - so I'm going to keep it for low light, restaurant  times or when I'm feeling a bit wild and woolly -not for when I'm trying to fly under the radar, incognito. And otherwise, I think I'll just go with my caps. Just have to get me some nice new earrings :)

    Thanks for advice on the port - I'm going to have one more go and this time make sure I am really well hydrated beforehand. If there's still a problem, I'll get one.

    Hope the side effects are settling for everyone - I'm hoping tomorrow is a nicer day - and I'm getting out of the house again.

    Lisa

  • Dublin4
    Dublin4 Member Posts: 158
    edited April 2010

    Head tingling....hair coming out....chest feels like a house is sitting on top of it (due to tissue expanders) and trying to maintain a normal day to day life....things that make you go HUMMMMM!!!!!

    Remember ladies FORWARD and TEMPORARY!!!!!! 

  • badger
    badger Member Posts: 34,614
    edited April 2010

    Hi all, going for #3 today which means halfway through YAY!!!

    I too am having eye issues.  Went to see my eye dr yesterday because I thought I had an eye infection or something - red eyes, gritty feeling, puffy by upper lashes - but it's dry spots in my eyes, another side effect of chemo.  And yeah, they water a lot, too.

    She gave me some eye drop samples: Bausch & Lomb Soothe XP and Refresh Liquigel (these are OTC) and Bausch & Lomb Alrex (Rx only, said if it helped, call and she'd write a script for it but it has a steroid in it so I want my onc to say OK before using it).

    Hope everyone has a good day with minimal SE's.  {{hugs}}

  • sarikasd
    sarikasd Member Posts: 31
    edited April 2010

    Hello Ladies,

    Thank you for the response to my question on radiation.  I will discuss more with my Onc.

    Angi- My SEs were definitely more after round 2.  I was so fatigued and dizzy.  But round 3 has been better for me.  Although the dizziness is still bothering me and I am waiting for it to clear in a day or two.  For the mouth sores are you gargling with salt water-it helped me.

    Hope everyone feels better.

  • Charley
    Charley Member Posts: 255
    edited April 2010

    Lisa - My oncologist made the exact same comment to me when I was re-tested for the bc gene (I tested neg in 1999)  saying if I was negative he would eat his hat!  I was negative. I think I need to get a big hat shaped cookie cake and take it up there for him to eat!  But seriously ... prayers coming your way that your doc won't have to eat his hat. You are lucky to have so many docs talking about your case.

    Hugs, Charley

  • LillyC
    LillyC Member Posts: 64
    edited April 2010

    Am feeling better today- 6th day after 2nd TC TX.   

    Last night I went to a "Look Good Feel Better" class and it was wonderful!  There were only five of us in the class.  The other four had ovarian cancer.  It was such a support group.  We all bonded, shared, laughed, and looked better and I think felt better when we left.   The class is put on by the ACS.  We were each given a bag of really wonderful cosmetics and professional instruction as to how to apply them.  I highly recommend it.  You can Google the class and see if it is offered in your area.  

    I think of you all so often and so wish we weren't here, but at the same time am glad that we are  here for each other. Am hoping today is a better day than yesterday for each of us!

  • mamaof3bugs
    mamaof3bugs Member Posts: 198
    edited April 2010
    Confidence booster....sex Wink  Made me feel human again!!  Just sayingLaughing  xoxo Angi
  • Lesinindy
    Lesinindy Member Posts: 31
    edited April 2010

    Tid bits from the other side of the drip

     Thanks to all the Marchers for information that helps with understanding what my wife is going through. You all are so tuff, it makes me wonder if I could do what you all are going through. 

    I am hesitant to bring up this topic, but felt that it might be good for me to get out in the open and I wonder if any of your significant others are feeling the same way at time. Basically I am embarrased to admit that this chemo and cancer is getting me down. I know that I need to be supportive, but I am starting to get a little numb. Maybe it is because I am feeling some of the emotional pains of the cancer. I am only into this thing for 3 and 1/2 months and already I am getting tired. With the rest of chemo and rad we are looking till early fall for this to get over. The hard part is that I am not sick, I have the same desires and wants as I did previous to the cancer, but my eating habits have changed (most meals I like are not on her want list), our love life is next to zero (SE's are hell on the libido) and we cannot travel until this is over. 

    On top of all of this I really feel bad about how I am feeling, I should be cheery and upbeat, but it is getting hard and is really easy to hunker down and pull back. I have read about guys that divorced and dump girlfriend that are undergoing treatment and my only thought was "what a loser, who could do that?" Going through this I am finding that  it is easy to judge others and be ashamed of your own actions. I have really noticed a pull back lately.  Has anyone's husband or signififcant other been more distant lately?

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