March 2010 Chemo Start

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  • SGJ05
    SGJ05 Member Posts: 73
    edited April 2010
    Sarikasd-I joined the April starters thread since I officially started chemo. on April 1st, but still read here and saw your question about radiation and negative node status. I have no nodal involvement (0/4 nodes), tumor size of 2.5 cm and am having radiation after chemo. The reason for me was the fact that I did not have clear margins after surgery. Not sure if this is this case for you too? Just saw the question and thought I would chime in:) Hopefully your oncologist will be able to answer that question for you.
  • undecided8
    undecided8 Member Posts: 194
    edited April 2010

    Frosty1: I cannot believe what I noticed after my bath this evening?? My left foot all the way up to my leg is all swollen up. I was just reading your post earlier today and had NEVER heard of this before and wham! There is it. LOL So, your Dr. did not seem too concerned? Figures it appears late on a Friday night so I cannot call the Onc.'s office and really didn't want to call the E.R. or his exchange. I'm always a little concerned with a blood clot when edema appears like that. But, it's not tender or hot to the touch. I have it propped up and will see what tomorrow brings. How strange is this? I've never heard of this side affect before. How are you doing otherwise besides the swelling? Take Care!

    Suzanne E.

  • teemee
    teemee Member Posts: 122
    edited April 2010

    Suzanne, for what it's worth, my onc said to call right away if the swelling goes past wrists and ankles--I guess rarely fluid can get around the lungs or heart, so you should definitely get in touch with someone. Is there anyone on call over the weekend? My office always has one dr on call.

     Well, ladies, I am now officially bald as a billiard ball. I washed the hair this morning, brushed it, very little fallout. Went to a movie tonight, head started feeling weird again, and when I pulled a little, it just came out. All of the sides, most of crown and back. I didn't want to watch it fade away so I pulled all I could then shaved it with the electric razor. I'm stiill a little numb and not that upset. Maybe all that moaning I did a couple weeks ago was the worst of it. What a weird thing though, to just pull a head of hair out. I plan to NEVER do that again! I did the shaving so I didn't have those weird patches. Just get it gone, done, and bring on the next thing. Whew. 

    My new haircut only lasted 3 days, though ;(. I am on day 16.

    Hugs to all, T

  • carolsue63
    carolsue63 Member Posts: 126
    edited April 2010

    I came across a wonderful resource to share with all of you. It's an audio library of guided imagery and positive affirmations for all kinds of health/wellness issues -- everything from cancer, chemo and radiation treatments to more everyday matters like relaxation and healthful sleep.

    It's free to listen online or to download to an mp3 player.  God bless Kaiser Permanente for making this available to the general public instead of limiting it to their own members. Here's the link:

    https://members.kaiserpermanente.org/redirects/listen/ 

  • mamaof3bugs
    mamaof3bugs Member Posts: 198
    edited April 2010

    teemee I am going to get my head shaved in an hour and I am freaked out!  I am having a wig made with my own hair, it will be ready to pick up at 5 this afternoon.  I cannot believe that in just a few hours I am going to look like a cue ball as well.  I am anxious but ready..it's only temporary right??  WIsh me luck.   Here's to SE free days to all my Marchers :D  xoxo Angi

  • carolsue63
    carolsue63 Member Posts: 126
    edited April 2010

    Count me in. I was getting that mangy look where I had patches of hair missing, my scalp hurt, and every time ran my fingers through my hair another 100 or so strands came out. I was really not enjoying this phase, so I took the electric hair trimmers to it using the very lowest guide. I now look like a cue ball with a splotchy 5 o'clock shadow. Tongue out I don't mind it much, though. I'm just covering it up with a wig or cap, so as long as it feels better (and it does!) that's all that matters.

    I figured my little boy (7) might not like the bald look much, but I really didn't want to have to worry about hiding it from him, so I had a little fun with it for him. Instead of shaving it all off at once, I gave myself a mohawk first. It was a HUGE hit! LOL  Thomas laughed hysterically. So even though I looked totally ridiculous for a few minutes, I'm glad I did it. (No, I did NOT take pictures -- it wasn't a pretty sight, believe me!)

    It's the silliness that gets me through all this. With all the crap we have to deal with, we should at least be able to have a little fun with it, right? 

  • sandiek9
    sandiek9 Member Posts: 54
    edited April 2010

    Hey Frosty, I think you should call your onc right away. You're on different drugs that I am, but it could be a side effect of significance. They're there for you on weekends, and you'll have some peace of mind when they tell you it's nothing to worry about.

    Well, I'm sleeping peacefully again (thank you, Lunesta), have the reflux/heartburn under control (thank you, Protonics), and the mouth crud is manageable with Oral Magic. Feeling pretty good today. The sun is shining, too! Looking forward to a pleasant weekend.

    Is anyone dealing with or worried about Lymphedema?  I've started PT for prevention and am having sleeves made for flying.

    Have courage, Marchers! xxoo Sandie 

      

  • Charley
    Charley Member Posts: 255
    edited April 2010

    Okay ... what's the deal with these SEs??  I am having terrible bone pain from the neulasta and claritin is not helping like it did last time!! Aaargh!  At least I have pain meds that are working now. Think you get one licked and then it turns up again!

    CaroSue - A friend of mine who went thru this 5 years did a similar thing with her kids ... let them actually "help" shave her head.  It took away the "scariness" of seeing mom bald.

    Good luck to all of you getting a new look today!

    Hugs, Charley

  • Kayne
    Kayne Member Posts: 103
    edited April 2010

    Sandie -- I am going to PT for cording and lymphedema prevention.  I also have to have a sleeve made but am trying to lose some of the flag that waves under my arms first.  I was told you need to wear it for any repetitive type thing-- washing window, weight training, etc.  My cording is now gone, which is awesome.  Glad your having a good day!

    Charley, and anyone else having bad SE, I hope you start to feel better. Smile

    Good luck to those getting their new "do" today.  I won't be far behind you. 

    To anyone wearing scarves, what size is the best.  I was trying to put them on last night and I wasn't very good at it.  

  • Dublin4
    Dublin4 Member Posts: 158
    edited April 2010

    Hope everyone is doing well!  My hair started to come out today...not a ton but if I ran my hand through it some comes out.  Even though you know it is coming it is still so darn hard.  I just have to  keep telling myself FORWARD and TEMPORARY we will all be through this before we know it and on the other side and recovering!    Best to all for a peaceful weekend! 

  • MelB
    MelB Member Posts: 9
    edited April 2010

    I hope everyone is having a wonderful day with few to no SE!  The weather is beautiful here and my husband and I took our 8 year old son to the zoo this morning, we had a great time and I didn't get tired out at all (10 days past #2)!  Happy weekend Marchers!

    Melanie B

  • badger
    badger Member Posts: 34,614
    edited April 2010

    Hey all, hope you're enjoying a good day today.  It's nice here and I got out for a walk this morning, may take another this evening.  Just need to avoid the stronger sun hours.

    The satin pillowcase was great, wish I'd gotten one sooner.  I must sleep on my L side more because there's less hair on that side of my head, rubbing against the cotton pillowcase I think.  So this was a good $20 investment.

    Haven't had mouth sores yet and am thinking it may be the ice cubes I keep popping during the infusions of taxotere and cytoxan. Keeps my mouth hydrated and cold. I have biotene mouthwash but haven't used it yet.  Saw my dentist before chemo started and asked about dry mouth.  She recommended sugarless candy and Trident XTRA Care gum which I found at Walgreens in both Peppermint and Spearmint (which I prefer).

    I do lose my taste for coffee and can't eat onions or anything spicy or highly flavored for the first ten days or so after a tx but taste buds have come back each time. 

    Been having night sweats the last few nights.  I'm in peri-meno so had been having hot flashes already so can deal with those "power surges" or "mini tropical vacations" but night sweats are new, yikes I wake up drenched and have to get up and change my shirt!  Chemo-pause starting maybe?  {{hugs}}

  • mamaof3bugs
    mamaof3bugs Member Posts: 198
    edited April 2010
    Had my head shaved today, my wig will be ready to pick up in a few hours.  I posted a few pics on my caring bridge if anyone is interested :D  www.caringbridge.org/visit/mamaof3bugs.  It was quite the experience!  xoxo Angi
  • frosty1
    frosty1 Member Posts: 420
    edited April 2010

    Congrats on your new wig Angi!  Did you go to the guy in Bellevue?  I hear he is amazing!

    Right on schedule, my ankle swelling is gone.  Too weird.  Doc and nurse weren't too concerned last time.  We'll see.  No pain, just ugly ankles.

    How are you doing with eyesight and hearing?  I've noticed I don't hear as well and have to have people repeat things, especially when they are talking quietly.  And my eyesight is a bit blurry.  More so right after chemo than later.  Every day is a new opportunity to see what our drug cocktails bring us!

    Seattle has been a bit nippy this past week.  I'm glad I have a wig to keep my head warm!  When I get home, I put a warm cap on.  Trying the scarf thing today.  Feel very conspicuous -- but I know it is mainly me being self-conscious.

    Amen to silliness, Carolsue!

  • horsedoc
    horsedoc Member Posts: 512
    edited April 2010

    hi all.... I see there are some of you in the same boat as me in the hair department.  The past two days it was only coming out if I pulled on it (even just a little) but I woke up with hair all over my pillowcase, and I couldn't brush/comb it or even just use my hands to try to straighten it up without it coming out like crazy.  So I took the horse clippers and shaved it off.  I did give myself a mohawk first.  I would've left it for a day or two but knew I'd just end up shedding the 'hawk all over the place. For some reason it didn't bother me at all to shave it off. I guess I had prepared myself adequately.  Plus I was in a hurry to get to the barn to ride!  It's almost ironic to me that at the same time I am finally feeling great after my first treatment is when my hair falls out.  Good luck to all the others going through it now too... be strong, it's only hair and it will grow back!Cool

    Angi--I hope your shaving appointment went ok, and that the wig fits well!

    hmm, satin pillowcase... good idea!  It will certainly feel better on a bare head too.

  • MelB
    MelB Member Posts: 9
    edited April 2010

    Frosty, my eyesight is bothering me as well....I'm having a lot of trouble with reading!

    Melanie

  • hmh23
    hmh23 Member Posts: 306
    edited April 2010

    Angi;  Your photos are unbelievable!!! Your daughters are beatiful.  You give me strength to get through this next week when I know I will be buzzing off my hair.  I've said it before that I am losing my hair but saving my life.  Now go kick some ass with those kick ass shoes!!!! Heather

  • hereandnow
    hereandnow Member Posts: 322
    edited April 2010

    good morning Marchers,  I'm feeling a bit quiet after treatment 2. I gave myself the neulasta shot yesterday for the first time - it wasn't too hard just a little sting, and so far, just a few aches. I still can't believe how many tablets I'm taking but they're all for a good reason. 

    My number 3 is kind of hanging in there, but it's really patchy around the sides and back. I wear a flannel sleeping cap I got from headcovers.com, and it's picking up the little hairs I'm still dropping. Mum bought me some satin pillow cases when I started chemo, and they have been really gentle and soft. My head is chilly without my hair - wearing my little wooly cap.

    Frosty I'm glad your legs have settled down. I love Seattle, I spent 12 months and went to high school in a little town called Arlington north of Everett in the 80's. My mother was an exchange teacher, and we used to drive down to Seattle every couple of week-ends. We loved the Pike place Markets.

    Hugs to everyone

  • Charley
    Charley Member Posts: 255
    edited April 2010

    Great pics Angi!  What beautiful hair you have (and will be able to continue to have!)  Maybe if my hair had looked that good ... Your girls are beautiful.

    Hugs, Charley

  • barb_k
    barb_k Member Posts: 76
    edited April 2010

    Kayne: I am going to PT also. a prevention to keep it from being full blown lymphedema. Hadn't heard about cording tho. My therapist says  I am way ahead of schedule on the movement of my arm. I started small exercises early as I work with my right arm all the time.

    This is day 16 and I still have hair. I feel kind of guilty after reading all your posts on your hair. My scalp does not feel any different. I keep remembering my late Husband when he lost his hair, and looking for signs. I have a strainer in my bath tub to catch the hair, and my DD brought it in to me the other day, and said mom!! you are the one going through chemo but I'm the one losing hair!!! It had quit a bit of hair in it. I told her it was her sympathy for me. Ha!! # 2 is coming up on the 14th. I''ll just stay alert for it.

    Hugs to everyone and good night.

  • teemee
    teemee Member Posts: 122
    edited April 2010

    Angi your girls are just gorgeous, and thank you for sharing those pictures! Awesome shoes!

  • Dublin4
    Dublin4 Member Posts: 158
    edited April 2010

    Angi - love the photos....to all i wish the best.  had a bad day  yesterday and just wanted to quite...stop....and forget....this mornig I am back....I guess that is part of the process?  Happy Sunday to all!

  • hereandnow
    hereandnow Member Posts: 322
    edited April 2010

    Dublin I'm sorry you've had a bad day - I hope you are starting to feel a little better and peaceful. It's not exactly a steady path is it? Gentle hug to all.

  • Dublin4
    Dublin4 Member Posts: 158
    edited April 2010

    hereandnow....no it is not a steady path, but it is one we have to walk and travel through to get to the other side.  I have been having trouble with the "what if it comes back" thought....I have to keep telling myself that my prognosis is excellent, once I get through all the stuff...but sometimes it is just so hard!  I really hope there comes a day when it is not the first thing or the last thing that I think about.  I have had some moments like that but not enough yet.  Thank you for the kind words, today is better.

  • MNLinda
    MNLinda Member Posts: 204
    edited April 2010

    Kayne, for me the hair started to fall out on day 16.  The telltale sign was some soreness in my scalp, right at the crown, starting the day before.  It was still fairly presentable till day 19, then I threw in the towel and clipped it short and put on a scarf. 

    Suzanne, I had edema in both legs, but it was way worse in the right.  Maybe because I had a surgery for endometriosis ten years ago that affected the lymph nodes in my right groin area, so the fluid doesn't move quite as well there.  Still, even if you don't have heat or tenderness or anything, a blood clot is a significant risk, so keep asking about it.  I was sent for an ultrasound of my legs just to be sure.

    I felt it was the Decadron that was causing the fluid retention, and I went to my oncologist armed with a list of pros and cons.  The cons included the fluid retention, weight gain, sleep disturbance, jumpiness and anxiety, and a research study I found online from the journal Cancer Research which found that Decadron may reduce the effectiveness of Adriamycin and the taxanes (find the article at http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/6289.php).  Plus, I found that after I stopped taking the Decadron I'd get a sudden drop in blood pressure that made me feel like I was going to faint for a day or two.  The only pro was that I hadn't had a problem with nausea, but thought that was controllable with the other anti-nausea meds supplemented with Seabands.

    My doctor didn't want to cut out the Decadron altogether, but did okay cutting the dosage in half. The treatments I had after that were quite a bit easier.  For one thing, I slept A LOT better, and getting better sleep is really key to feeling your best.  The fluid retention didn't go away, but improved.  For me, the Decadron was a worse enemy than the chemo drugs.

    Also, I found compression bandaging helpful for the leg edema.  This wasn't suggested by my doctor, but by the PT I was seeing about my arm.  Compression socks may help prevent swelling, but are pretty useless once the fluid is already there.

    Another thing about the Decadron - I found it left a bad taste when I put the tablets on the back of my tongue, so I started putting the tabs in empty gelcaps.  I still had an off taste from the chemo drugs, but it was better.  I found that although I craved foods with fat content - butter and fried foods and the like - those were the foods that were most affected by the taste changes.  Things like cereal, low fat soups and fruits & vegetables were least affected.

    Good wishes, everyone.

  • Kayne
    Kayne Member Posts: 103
    edited April 2010

    Angi- your wig is awesome and those shoes ROCK -- beautiful family

    Barb_k-  I still have all my hair too, even leg hair is still growing! -- Day 14- but go for round 2 tomorrow-- I need to decide what to do, I can't have gobs falling out during my daughters prom pictures. ( Fri -16th )-  I don't know most of the people that will be here.  Too much to worry about--Undecided    Your PT would know if you had cording, I'm sure you don't but heres a link to learn about it.  http://www.stepup-speakout.org/Cording_and_Axillary_Web_Syndrome.htm   

    Dublin4- glad your having a better day!

  • Kayne
    Kayne Member Posts: 103
    edited April 2010

    MNLinda- thanks for timeline regarding the hair.  I do have a wig, but it needs to be fitted once I shave my head.  Maybe I should plan that for thursday, day 18 for me.  Then I will be presentable for Friday. 

    Love this site-- so helpful!!

  • hmh23
    hmh23 Member Posts: 306
    edited April 2010

    Dublin4;  It's hard not to think of those 'what ifs' every now and then especially since our diagnosis is so recent and we are undergoing treatment but when you start drifting off to those places, try to refocus and think about what makes you happy, what makes you smile and what makes you laugh.  You will find that those 'what ifs' thougths will decipate.  Have a great day. Heather

  • hmh23
    hmh23 Member Posts: 306
    edited April 2010

    Kayne;  I'm on day 14 as well post first AC treatment and yesterday I started to notice some pretty significant hair loss.  Wanda, my wig is waiting for me, ready to go.  I think you would be wise to go have your fitting mid week so you are ready to go and confident in the styling and fit prior to prom photos.  To that end, you might even consider doing it on Wednesday so you have Thursday to get comfortable with the wig on your head. Just a thought from "Hair Today, Gone Tomorrow" friends.  Post pics if you can from the prom. We'd love to see them. Fondly, Heather

  • Charley
    Charley Member Posts: 255
    edited April 2010

    Dublin4 - I'm there with you!  I had a terrible day yesterday (aching from neulasta and nauseated all day) and all I could think of was "I can't do this 3 more times!"  Somehow I did survive until today and am feeling better. Still don't want to do it 3 more times though ... but I will. Sometimes the right decisions are not always the decisions that you like.

    I haven't had as much trouble with the "what if it comes back" thoughts. I'm sure those thoughts will come later once I'm done with the chemo and there isn't any poison to kill these cancer cells ... I do have 5 relatives who have all had bc who are alive and well and are disease free. It can happen, and in fact happens all the time!  And that's what I try to hold onto.

    Hugs to all.

    Charley

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