April 2010 starting chemo
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Hi,
I'd like to join this forum. I just had my first chemo on 4/8/10 (DD AC x 4, DD T x 4). I am getting my chemo through a PICC line. The infusion itself went fine, but about 3-4 hours later, I felt the onset of nausea that gradually increased over the next 4 hours, then I experienced some hot flashes. I am on Emend, dexamethasone, and Zofran. The nausea is come and go; mostly it is just queasiness and lack of appetite. Plus I am super-sensitive to smells. It is a feeling that I am familiar with, since I had very bad morning sickness with both of my pregnancies, and am prone to motion-sickness. All of the usual things that worked for me during pregnancy continue to work for me, like using my Sea-Bands, tangy foods, yogurt and saltines. Good luck to all those starting this month!
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Count me in! I'll be starting TC(taxotere/cytoxan) on April 20, I had TAC almost 5 years ago andso I'm not looking forward to it to say the least. It would great to have friends to go through it with me.
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Marcy4-
I am enrolled in the BETH trial as well! I start Chemo next Wednesday and will keep you posted as to wheather I receive the avastin or not. My onc is moving their entire office this weekend. I was supposed to find out today but no phone call as of now. Kind of frustrating...will call and whine about it on Monday...It's too nice outside to be upset about it all weekend!
Lorrhaw and SGJo5-
Thank you so much for sharing your experience...I'm putting popcicles on my list to take to treatment!
I just updated my journal on caring bridge, informing all my friends about my upcoming Chemo...it should be a weekend full of phone calls and e-mails. That's a good thing, it keeps me possitive and you can't help but feel loved after a good chat with a far away friend. If you don't have one, I'm a firm believer of this web site. www.caringbridge.com you can easily build your own web site for free! and keep your friends and family updated on your journey. The company is non-profit, it's services are underwritten by hospitals and donations. It's made it easier for us to communicate and it's kind of like therapy because you have to communicate about your treatment to your family and friends.
I wish everyone a wonderful weekend filled with sunshine and NO SEs!
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Lorrhaw--I am anxiously waiting for the day I lose my hair:( Did you have any weird sensations prior? Did it fall out in clumps? I am 8 days out from my first chemo. and wondering if I will have any forewarning. Any input is greatly appreciated:)
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Well, I've got one down, five to go!!! When I got to my onc's office, I met with the nurse practicioner as my onc is on vacation, and she answered any questions my husband and I had. We then went back to the chemo room and they attached the needle to my port (less pain than getting an IV in my arm), then they took blood and sent it back to the lab. While we waited on the results, they gave me Ativan & Aloxi-Decadron in my port. When I got the OK on my bloodwork they started the Taxotere slowly, increasing the drip every 15 minutes. It took 2 hours to finish that, then on to the Carboplatin which they zipped right through the IV in 45 minutes. I got Tylenol and Benadryl before the Herceptin (apparently they give that during the first infusion). Benadryl made me very sleepy and I slept for an hour of the 90 minute infusion. And that was it!!! No reactions while at the doctor's office but have had leg muscle soreness and am a little tired since I got home, but no nausea at any time. DH rubbed my legs and back and now I feel100% better! Thanks, honey! However, we ended up being at the doctor's office for 7 hours and 15 minutes!
They gave me prescriptions for Ambien, Vicodin, Zofran for daytime nausea and Phenergan for nighttime nausea, since that will make me sleepy. The pharmacist looked at me a little suspiciously because of all the meds, I think I'm stocked up until the end of chemo!!
But so far so good, I guess the next few days will tell if I get any other SE's. Best of luck to the rest of you, wishing you as few SE's as possible!!!
Jennifer
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Tough mom-
I had not needed a Rx filled for years so when I was diagnosed my DH and I walked down to the new Pharmacy near our house and got all the insurance info into their system. I was concerned because we live in an edgy neighborhood and I didn't want the DH to have any problems picking up my Rxs. The staff have been great and ask my DH how I'm doing everytime he has to run in.
Thank you for sharing your experience!! You are on the same tx as I am and yours is the first I've read that really explains what happens that day and how long you are actually there.
Sending healing thoughts and hopes for your SEs stay completely under control! -
caltex_catlady--sent you a pm, hoping you could update my treatment, thanks so much
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Pickles,
Glad to hear that someone else here is doing the BETH trial. I am anxious to hear how you do. I am looking forward to getting things started. I thought this was the best option for me being HER2+ but found the possible side effects to be a bit scary, but glad to hear that most women say they seem to be fine. I have my port put in on Monday and hope to go to my Chemo Teaching class in the afteroon. Good luck on Wednesday.
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Welcome, new folks. Thanks for adding your information. susiesue, I updated your info.
tpcjkk: I hadn't thought about using Sea-Bands, so thanks for the suggestion. I'm also prone to motion sickness (I have to take a Dramamine just to go to an Imax movie), so I already have a pair. I don't think I've relied just on those on the trips I've taken lately, but I figure they won't hurt.
I went for a fitting for my prostheses today (I haven't had reconstruction yet after a bmx in Feb., and it will have to wait until chemo is over). While I was at the boutique, I tried on several wigs. I think I found one I like, so I'm taking the DH back with me tomorrow to see what he thinks. I had also gotten my hair cut short this morning, so it's been a weird day, hair-wise.I don't feel quite like myself with this pixie cut. (Heh, a 50-year-old pixie) The wig I like is more of a bob, a little past chin length.
I hope everyone has a good weekend. Since my first infusion is Monday, I'm not sure how restful the weekend will be, but it's good to hear that y'all are doing well so far.
Karen (caltex_catlady)
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Hi. Thanks for starting this thread! I start Monday, 4/12 (except that I just returned from a trip to China where I caught some sort of gross cough so it may get postponed after my exam that morning).
I'll have AC x 4 @ 2 weeks, then Taxol/Hercpetin x 12 @ 1 week, then Herceptin @ 3 weeks for a year - all with port. Rads x 6 weeks after the TH and Tamoxifen for 5 years.
I've had some concerns about meds - I have scripts for Emend and Compazine, but nothing for pain or sleep which it seems like many people need (Neulasta pain, etc). And supposedly I won't need oral steroids after the infusion, which is fine with me. (Dreading chemo weight gain - I know, it's the least of my worries, but I can't help focusing on that and hair loss right now.) What meds have you all been given or needed?
Hope all of you who have already started are doing well. I'm very interested to hear any SE about AC as I hope to just feel down for a few days and then work at the end of the week...
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Hi All
Well, one treatment down!!!!
I had A/C yeaterday and they started with a flush of my port (yes it did taste funny, they recommend smelling a mint tea bag in the future). Then nausea premeds. I am not sure what I was given as I agreed to a nausea drug study. I know I had the Dex. which made me antsy. The treatment went very well. They had me chew on ice chip during the first drug to decrease mouth sore. I also have been rinsing 3 times a day with biotene. No problems so far. I felt great until about 3:00 and then had alot of trouble with nausea and vomitted once the rest of the day and night. I would definitly not eat tomato soup after chemo. I think the acid was tough on my belly. I feel much better today. I feel a little foggy and mild nausea. We have to definitly take one day at a time and celebrate small victories. I was so grateful to wake up this morning with the sun shining and feeling like I had crossed another hurdle. Good luck Monday Karen if you start. You will do great. You are right the waiting and anticipation are the hardest. Have a great weekend everyone. Amy
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Hi,
I am on day 3 from my first AC treatment and still finding it hard to eat (and drink). Everything just sounds so yuck to me. It seems to be a combo of the queasiness and the weird taste. I wouldn't say it's a metallic taste, like I've seen described, but taste is definitely off!! I hope this improves because the lack of energy from not eating is depressing. I did my first Neupogen shot today. I am supposed to self-administer shots each day on days 3-7 of my AC cycles. Thankfully I am not scared of needles; it wasn't too bad.
I am 42 y/o, a mom of three boys, ages 12, 12 and 11. I sent them on a scouting campout this weekend, and will try to keep them busy while I'm in treatment. It's been hard for them to see me go from totally active, to a couch potato. Hopefully as I figure how to deal with the SE's, I can be more "normal." Take care, everyone.
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tpcjkk-
sending you a big hug!
I start next week so can't speak from experience, but my nurses and onc have made it very clear that even a cracker is better than nothing and staying hydrated is very important.
I read somewhere that lemon in your water or a sport drink like powerade usually tastes better when you have that metallic taste. Also rinseing your mouth with salt and baking soda rinse, or sucking on really tart candy like jolly ranchers.
Wish we could all just blink and be better! Hang in there!
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Just wanted to say hi- I just finished chemo on March 31- A/c then taxotere- and it wasn't the end of the world. It sucked sometimes, but I was so afraid it would be worse than anything, ever- and it wasn't. It was just another thing to get through. You can do it too. And then one day, it's over. Best of luck to all of you, and DRINK THAT WATER!!
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Congrats toughmom38 on completing your first treatment--may you have little to no side effects and a great weekend:)
Congrats amosonzan on completing your first treatment! I am sorry you got sick:( But hope the worst is behind you and your side effects remain mild. I have them flush my port slowly because I too can taste it--it helped a bit:) I am going to try sucking on a mint or chewing gum next time and seeing if that works.
Congrats tpcjkk on completing your first treatment:) I am sorry you have that general quesy feeling. I had that for the first few days, but it did go away for me by day 5:) I hope you are able to eat soon. I found that I did well eating potatoes, bagels, anything in the bread family.
To all of you experincing side effects I hope you all feel better soon (HUGS)!!
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saralmom- I used Zofran, Sennokot, Claritin (for Neulasta), Emend, Ativan, Compazine (only twice), and Prilosec. Geesh, listing them makes me realize how many I actually took,lol. I am post chemo. day #9 and all I am taking is my Prilosec and Claritin. I really only used the majority of meds. for the first 3-4 days:) I kept a journal of the med., dosage, and time taken as a means of keeping track of all the meds. I got a little chemo. brain and would forget, lol.
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Thank you for the encouraging words...I am awed by the amount of strength I find in the women on this site. My husband ordered a pizza for dinner, and the smell was not totally offensive, so I had 2 slices. My first "real" meal, not counting the soup, yogurt and crackers I've been living off of the past 2 days. I am glad to hear that it will get better. I am on a cycle of Emend on days 1-3, dexamethasone on days 1-4, and Zofran and Ativan as needed. I've been taking the Zofran round the clock. Since it is up to me to use the Zofran and Ativan "as needed," I'm wondering how much SE's I should put up with or if the goal is to try to eliminate the SE's? I worry about my poor liver and kidneys!
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Hugs to everyone! Day #2 after TX #1 has gone well. Slept for about 12 hours last night, probably due to all the meds I took!!! Have been a little queasy all day but no vomiting. Had very little appetite today until about 6:00 and then have been eating non-stop since! (Maybe from steroids?) I have been a little achy but nothing terrible. Ran errands with husband and son all day so took about a 2 hour nap this afternoon. Not nearly as bad as I expected but I've heard that day 3-4 is bad for a lot of people, so we shall see. Best of luck to everyone starting chemo this upcoming week!!! May your SE's be minimal and remember it's only temporary!!!
Jennifer
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Count me in for April. DD A/C (was supposed to be on TC, but I'm severely allergic, so had to switch to AC). Started Friday, April the 9th. So far, so good. Keeping walking, got my nulasta shot yesterday, eating pretty well. I'm on emend and ativan and decedron and the whole cocktail. No nasuea. They tell me I will probably crash tomorrow when I'm off the steroids, so I'm trying to keep on top of things. THe one upside to changing to A/C is that it is only 8 weeks, That's like summer camp. A very lousy summer camp.
I wish everyone luck. xo, nikki
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well Tuesday I get my port and Thurs. start chemo, I think even though I'm anxious I'm also ready to just get started......amosonzan. looks like I'll be a week behind you.....are you getting radiation? Yesterday I went and got my hair cut short....not short short but short, maybe an inch as over......when I got home I only kind of liked it.....so I told my husband I was going to play with it and cut a little (after all, how bad could it be.....I won't even have hair in a couple of weeks), today I washed it and looked in the mirror.....I now look like a four year old who got a hold of my mother's scissors......maybe this is good, I may be relieved to lose my hair. I can just picture my daughter's face the first time she sees me.........
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saralmom and nikkistar, welcome to the group (not that we wish this upon anyone).
Those of you who have started, we'll all pulling for you to have as few SEs as possible. I hope they wear off early and don't come back.
I start tomorrow. I went in for my pre-treatment blood work, so now I have a baseline to measure from. Most of the numbers seemed to be in the middle of the ranges, so let's hope that's enough to hold me up so I don't have to do the Neulasta or whatever.
susiesue, I loved your hair story. I got my hair cut short on Friday and haven't gotten used to it. Too many memories of a bad pixie cut as a child, maybe. But we went out to dinner last night for DH's birthday, and I wore some dangly earrings and more lipstick than usual. I must say it's easy to care for, but already my head is cold. I can't imagine what it will be like when there's no insulation up there at all. Someone on another thread had suggested these soft fleece caps from Lands' End (overstocks at $5, if they still have any). I wore one at home and to bed last night, and itdoes seem to help.
My treatment is at 11am tomorrow and should last a few hours, so I'm assuming I'll eat a little lunch while I'm there. Has anyone tried eating (other than popsicles or hard candy) while their infusion is going? Any suggestions? I'm thinking something mild like a cheese sandwich would be good. I'll take some peanut butter crackers or something also.
Karen (caltex_catlady)
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Hi All,
Well I hope those that started Friday did better than I did. I had my first treatmeant on Thurs. felt fine went out to lunch to Jimmy Johns and was so sick the whole night - never threw up so much in my life! Went back friday for more drugs and liquids - I am so sick. Today - Sunday is the first where I am actually able to feel like eating a scrambled egg and toast. Ladies I sure hope this does not happen to anyone else - I wouldn't wish this on my worse enemy. The nurse did say that because I am younger 37 and had nausea when I was pregnant this can be a sign for more nausea - just to warn those of you that may get sick more easier than normal. The nurse did say to tell the doctor for next time that I want Emend. I just don't ever want to go back. I feel like I have been hit by a truck and to think that my surgery had gone so well - maybe thats what I get. I am soo sorry to whine on here espeically when I know others have to go through it all still. I know that everyone is different so please keep that in mind. But I need encouragement because I just want to be done and I haven't even lost my hair yet!! O-man I told myself I wouldn't do this on here -soo sorry. Good luck to everyone who is going in tomorrow and those who have just gone hope you are felling a lot better than I.
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add me to the list too just started last thursday i was scared it was not to bad iv been tierd and have to watch what i eat i have my heair still my oldist came to me the next morning mom you still have heair as he puled it i had to laph.they have me in the cytoxan and adriamycin every other week x 4 then i go for 4 more with taxotere then surgery then some more chemo and rad. prayers to all and blessings.
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Please change my treatment to FEC X3 @ 3weeks, then Docetaxel X 3 @ 3weeks with Herceptin following
I was to do the BETH Trial but after looking over all the side effects agian, I have reconsidered and will do this treatment instead. I would like to participate in the trial, but my fear of the unknown has gotten the better of me, so I will do the treatment that is usually used. My port goes in tomorrow and then Chemo soon....
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Hi,
kad22 - Your experience sounds similar to mine. I did eat during the first infusion (turkey sandwich, nuts, tea). The first infusion took about 3 hours total, with pre-meds, about 20 minutes of push of "A", then 1 hour of "C", with other saline, etc. in between and dressing change of my PICC line after. Then I went home and ate lunch, plus I worked on my taxes. I thought it was all good, but then I crashed later that afternoon. Stayed that way for the next two days, even with the med cocktail I've been on. Today is day 4, and I feel like I've turned the corner. I only took my ordered dose of dexamethasone today; no Emend, Zofran or Ativan. Eating and drinking is definitely key, since just sitting or laying around with stomach acids churning is not good!
Wishing all who start this week lots of luck and little SE's!
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Kad22 and tpcjkk--I am so sorry you both had such a horrid time with nausea:( I know it is hard, but just keep reminding yourself this is temporary. I know it is hard to see that when you feel so crumby and you know you have to go back again, but you can do it. I cried after my first cycle a lot and told my husband there was no way I could ever do it again, but now that I am feeling human again, I feel like I have my strength and willingness to fight again. Although I still have some minor SE's that rear their ugly head, they are manageable!! Keep the faith, you can do it (HUGS)!!!
Good Luck shygal, caltex_catl, and saralmom-May your infusions be smooth and may you have little to no side effects!!!!
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Thanks to everyone who shared their med lists with me. I'm so confused about why I don't have scripts for some of those - Ativan and Zofran specifically, and the dexomethasone too I guess - my doc told me no extra steroids necessary... weird. I'll ask about all of thoe tomorrow - maybe they will send me home with them? But then why did she already give me the scripts for Emend and Compazine? Strange.
Today I went to the pharmacy and loaded up on other stuff I've read about on this and other threads - lemon drops for during infusions, Sennecot, Prilosec and Pepcid, and every Biotene product I could find. I just want to be prepared for any SE that pop up. I really hope after all this that they don't decide to postpone me due to this annoying cough. As much as I'm dreading it, I really just want to get it going - I had delayed the chemo due to my recent trip and am anxious about it getting too far out.
Good luck to shygal and caltex catlady - here's hoping we all have smooth days tomorrow and for the rest of the week too.
Sara
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Sara
Hey, I am toughmom38's (Jennifer's) husband. I can tell you that the only script we got before her first treatment was the steroid. When we met with the Dr on the day of chemo #1 to ask any questions we had, they wrote a script for anything we were concerned about!
We were worried about not sleeping at night....we got a script for ambien. We were worried about nausea....... we got a script for phenegran at night and zofran during the day (because the phenegran makes you sleepy, and the zofran is too expensive to take all the time!). We were worried about any pain that may occur......we got a script for hydrocodone. If we were concerned...... they wrote a script!
After the treatment we went to the pharmacy and the pharmacist looked at us like we were printing them in our garage because we had so many!! LOL!!
They also provided the ativan the day of chemo as one of the pre-chemo drugs in an IV push. After just a few minutes Jennifer was very relaxed! They also gave her an anti-nausea med as part of the premeds that stays in your system for three days and would have rendered the nausea scripts useless until it gets out of her system (don't remember what it was called, but so far it seems to be working). I am assuming it will be that way before each treatment! Hope that helps!
All of you are incredibly brave and the way you all help eacother out is inspiring!! Hang tough! You will all get through this!!
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Sara
Hey, I am toughmom38's (Jennifer's) husband. I can tell you that the only script we got before her first treatment was the steroid. When we met with the Dr on the day of chemo #1 to ask any questions we had, they wrote a script for anything we were concerned about!
We were worried about not sleeping at night....we got a script for ambien. We were worried about nausea....... we got a script for phenegran at night and zofran during the day (because the phenegran makes you sleepy, and the zofran is too expensive to take all the time!). We were worried about any pain that may occur......we got a script for hydrocodone. If we were concerned...... they wrote a script!
After the treatment we went to the pharmacy and the pharmacist looked at us like we were printing them in our garage because we had so many!! LOL!!
They also provided the ativan the day of chemo as one of the pre-chemo drugs in an IV push. After just a few minutes Jennifer was very relaxed! They also gave her an anti-nausea med as part of the premeds that stays in your system for three days and would have rendered the nausea scripts useless until it gets out of her system (don't remember what it was called, but so far it seems to be working). I am assuming it will be that way before each treatment! Hope that helps!
All of you are incredibly brave and the way you all help eacother out is inspiring!! Hang tough! You will all get through this!!
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Bobbyj, give our best to Jennifer. I loved your story about the pharmacy. It's good to find things to make us laugh, even while we're going through this stuff. I hope I get some of that relaxation stuff.
I stocked up on all kinds of stuff, from hard candies to Biotene to moist wipes as well. I never have to use an actual cart at the drugstore, but this time it was full. I hope I don't have to use most of it.
saralmom, I hope you can start tomorrow as planned. I'll be right there with you and shygal.
Now I just hope I can get a decent night's sleep before the games begin.
See y'all on the other side.
Karen (caltex_catlady)
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