Does anyone have Fibromyalgia?

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Sunflower64 Member Posts: 166
Does anyone have Fibromyalgia?
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  • Sunflower64
    Sunflower64 Member Posts: 166
    edited January 2010

    Hi,

    My onco said I might be experiencing a fibromyalgia because I have terrible joint/muscle/bone pain.

    I didn't have fibro before I was dx. If anyone has it could you write to me about it and tell me what you take for it.

    Thanks for listening,

    Diane

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited January 2010

    I have Fibro and tried to start a thread last year but got no action. No one who doesn't have it can believe the pain! I am on Tridural 300, Celebrex, Zoloft & Welbrutrin (anti-depressants help) with Torredol and Demerol for break-through pain.

    I have been bedridden for days at times, and actually was awake for only 7 hours on New Years Day! Sleep is a great healer, besides the fact that you can sleep through the pain. Sometimes a bed sheet on my legs is more pain than I can bear!

    My next step is Methadone or Morphine patches....sigh.

  • Sukiann
    Sukiann Member Posts: 310
    edited January 2010

    I have fibro too.  Hello Jo and Barbe (I've been MIA for a while but I'm back).  I was also recently diagnosed with moderate to severe sleep apnea and I swear that it is linked to the fibro.  If your muscles aren't resting then I don't know how they can feel normal.  Anyway, I take cymbalta 60 mg and it has helped, however since starting Arimidex I'm in pain again but mostly joint not muscle as much.  I really hope you don't have fibro and it's something that is going to go away because fibro is awful, especially when you are in a flare.

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited January 2010

    I just got Oxycodon I/R to help with break through pain. I'll have to let y'all know how/if it works!

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited January 2010

    I have to stay under the radar for "driving under the influence" with my drugs. Years ago I was on the narcotic equivalent of 25 Percocets a day! Found out afterwards that I could have been charged in an accident! Yikes! (Should have known when I had to have DH drive me to work for the first week because I was too "dizzy". Doi!)

    I took Lyrica for 5 months while I was on a no-carb diet. I didn't lose an ounce; my brother lost 75 pounds. I truly believe if I wasn't dieting at the time I would have gained weight! Now the ads do say "weight gain possible". I can't afford extra weight (or pain for that matter) with my high blood pressure....8-)

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited January 2010

    Jo, I'm not using the Oxycodone when driving this time. Last time I did (was the narcotic equivalent of 25 Percocets, not Percocets themselves as those make me psycho!). I have Demerol left for when I have to get to work and back. The I/R is instant relief form for when I get home and can't even get out of the car without help!

    Is your Dad diabetic? They use those kinds of meds for peripheral neuropathy....so sad for him.

  • Sunflower64
    Sunflower64 Member Posts: 166
    edited January 2010

    Hi girls,

    I was on Cymbalta but cannot take it with Tamoxifen which I will starting next month. I'm not sure if it is Fibro.  I'm hoping it is the long lasting side effects from the Taxotere. I'm feeling really bad today. I walked on the treadmill 3 days in a row and felt a little better.  I really don't want to deal with this anymore. I feel like I just finished chemo, 2 surgeries, now doing radiation and now I have this to deal with. Life is so hard.

    Thanks for listening,

    Diane

  • Sunflower64
    Sunflower64 Member Posts: 166
    edited January 2010

    Hi girls,

    I was on Cymbalta but cannot take it with Tamoxifen which I will starting next month. I'm not sure if it is Fibro.  I'm hoping it is the long lasting side effects from the Taxotere. I'm feeling really bad today. I walked on the treadmill 3 days in a row and felt a little better.  I really don't want to deal with this anymore. I feel like I just finished chemo, 2 surgeries, now doing radiation and now I have this to deal with. Life is so hard.

    Thanks for listening,

    Diane

  • Sukiann
    Sukiann Member Posts: 310
    edited January 2010

    Jo, I've been on Cymbalta for about 3 years now.  I was on Effexor xr before but was switched to Cymbalta because it is supposed to work better.  It has helped.  I just got back from the sleep specialist and he said that I have not only moderate to severe sleep apnea but I have restless leg syndrome.  He told me that Cymbalta caused restless leg syndrome but I remember that I had it before I even started on antidepressants.  Anyway, now I have to go on Mirapax for the RSL.  I wish I could stop the Cymbalta but I'm afraid that the depression and the pain will come back. I tried to stop when I was on Effexor but I started with the depression again.  That was several years ago.  I can't even imagine how much depression I would be in now with all that is going on with my health.  Anyway, I now awaiting my cpap machine (needed to help stop sleep apnea) and I have to go for an emg on my legs to see if I have some kind of nerve problem.  Also, as an added bonus, a very rare side effect of the Mirapex is that start shoplifting, compulsive gambling and/or sexual addiction (which wouldn't be a bad problem for my hubby since I'm on lupron shots and take arimidex which has killed my sex drive).  Can't wait to start with the Mirapax!  I'll let you know how it goes.  Email me a list of what you want at the store and I'll steal it for you (only kidding!!!).

    BTW, I forgot to add that I did not gain weight on the cymbalta.  I don't think it is a side effect.  I definitely know that Lyrica does (finally they are admitting it).  I am 10 lbs heavier than this time last year but that is because of the chemo.  Has anyone tried MSM.  I thought it helped a little bit and it is easy to get (CVS has it). 

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited January 2010
  • Sukiann
    Sukiann Member Posts: 310
    edited January 2010

    I knew you were going to ask that!  Ok, here is a link to a site that explains it.  It says it's for joints but I take it for muscles and it helps a little.

     http://www.msmguide.com/

  • taraleec
    taraleec Member Posts: 236
    edited January 2010

    My doc thinks I have Fibromyalgia too, I didn't have it before all my breast issues.  The Dr. put me on Cymbalta 60 mg. 

  • Sunflower64
    Sunflower64 Member Posts: 166
    edited January 2010

    Hi Taraleec,

    Be careful if you ever get off of Cymbalta. The withdrawal effects are horrible. Do it the right way!

    Diane

  • Mantra
    Mantra Member Posts: 968
    edited January 2010

    I too have fibro. It started when I was 30 (am now 57). I'm extremely fortunate that mine is well under control. When I first got it, my doctor used me as a test monkey! He did a ton of research and spoke to several doctors in Europe who believed strongly that the pain isn't imaginary (plenty of doctors believe fibro was all in our heads). I was then put into a sleep study and had my sleep patterns monitored overnight. The worked my meds around my sleep patterns and adjusted it constantly until they had the right "recipe" to ensure my quality of sleep was as close to perfect as possible. Every so often, I adjust my night meds if I'm having pain again. I know immediately upon waking if my quality of sleep was poor . . . I can barely move because everything hurts and I feel like and haven't sleep and also feel extremely agitated. When I had my TE put in, I was told that it could set off my fibro again. Unfortunately, it did cause some flare ups and I spent weeks adjusting my meds and now that my quality of sleep is great, my pain is almost non existent. As I said, I do consider myself extremely fortunate to be able to control mine, but I also know that far too many people live with the pain of fibro every day. I see commercials for medications for fibro and do hope that it brings relief to many people who suffer with pain each day.  

  • mathteacher
    mathteacher Member Posts: 243
    edited January 2010

    I've been taking Advils but had to stop because it gave me mouth sores. Does anybody know what causes fibromyalgia?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2010

    Get a Second opinion!! I have had fibromyalgia for over 20 years. I got it from having adult mono. I had to get a firm diagnosis that I truly did have fibromyalgia (takes a neur specialist) then I had to change my whole life! First question I would ask, did you get a nulasta shot? The pain that generated in my joints was beyond what I could tolerate. If you do have fibromyalgia, there is an old book about "Treatment for Chronic Fatugue Syndrom" which is the most comprehensive book I have read on the subject. It tells you how to EAT properly to rest your organs everyday. It tells you what to do regarding exercise (like none initially until flair up is gone), what treatment to use from the medical community to begin to live a new life, how to get fibrmyalgia into remission, etc. You must have at least 11 of 15 trigger points on your boday that are extremely painful and those were only tested on me by a "rheumatologist/neurolgist." Then  course of action which includes constant followup by your docs. If you do have fibromyalgia, it is debilitating and I had to go on Disability for it (and that was in the old days). I have never found a drug to treat it, despite the BS being marketed by the pharmacutical companies (tried Lyrica and couldn't stand up). I work with a pain management specialist and a reumtologist to keep my fibromyalgia in remission-unfortunately, cancer surgery and chemo has reignited the fibro. good luck, if you need more info, or want to chat, go to my PM page. chin up SV.

  • mathteacher
    mathteacher Member Posts: 243
    edited January 2010

    You're right. I need a clear-cut diagnosis. It seems related to my thyroid status-- when thyroid is better I don't feel the pain nearly as much.

    I never had Neulasta and don't use hormone blockers. The pain just creeped up on me.

    There is some kind of fibromyalgia organization out there, tho there are probably several I should investigate. I haven't taken this fibro business seriously til this winter. All I see is stupid drugs on TV advertised trying to cover the symptoms without ever identifying where the pain originated. I'm not opposed to taking pain killers-- but I would like to know why I got the freakin pain in the first place.

    Thanks! I will look into the Chronic Fatigue books. Maybe there is a viral connection. Still want to know how the thyroid fits in to all this.

  • Angel40
    Angel40 Member Posts: 75
    edited January 2010

    Wow, I'm sad to read that a lot of women have fibro and BC.

    I want to believe that  I have fibro. Last year went to see rheumatologist but said maybe I have fibro maybe not. I went for 4 weeks PT and felt better. Now after my exchange surgery(implant) I feel the same joints/muscle/bones pain again. waking up very tired. I do not want to bounce from doctor to doctor.

    Any suggestion if I should see a rheuro or neurologist? I know that fibro is hard to diagnose.

    Please help.

    Thanks,

    Edith

  • jessamine
    jessamine Member Posts: 322
    edited March 2010

    Maybe a little late for this but... i've had fibro for 5 years (pre BC) and have found it highly managable with lifestyle changes. It's a lot of change- diet, chemical exposure, exercise- but I feel it's the only thing that really works. For flare ups I occasionally take oxycodone but mostly use lidoderm patches which i totally recommend. they aren't the strongest but they do help and are totally benign side-effect wise.

     I was very worried that chemo would destroy me b/c of this but with a lot of supplements and such I have done pretty well- alsmost to the end of it (3 more taxotere) and so far....knock on wood...pretty good.

    I will say to though that joint muscle pain are associated with- neulasta. aromatase inhibitors. SERMS. and many chemo drugs. So it could really just be a side effect yeah?

    good luck....anandi

  • Angel40
    Angel40 Member Posts: 75
    edited March 2010

    My tender points is 14 out of 18. So the doctor said I really have fibro. He wants me to start 30mg of cymbalta then go to 60mg after 2 weeks. Wants me also to go to pysical therapy 3x a week and I work full time with 2 kids. I'm not sure how to work out the schedule with work family and PT.

    Any input on anybody who takes cymbalta?

  • blondie45
    blondie45 Member Posts: 580
    edited March 2010

    Hi, I have fibromyalgia and have been taking Lyrica. It was doing a good job until they put me on 2 heart meds and Coumadin right now for low ejection fraction from the chemo. I really hope I don't need to be on them for the rest of my life as between the heart meds and the tamoxifen I started the fibromyalgia is flaring up. For me anyway, it has been more difficult to handle the pain and headaches from the fibromyalgia than going through the chemo and rads, etc.

  • Angel40
    Angel40 Member Posts: 75
    edited March 2010

    thank you blondie45.

    I took cymbalta for 2 days now and the side effects are lost of appetite, dry mouth, and light headiness(drowsiness). I hope that these will go away in a week. If not I'm not sure if I want to continue this.

  • blondie45
    blondie45 Member Posts: 580
    edited March 2010

    I tried Cymbalta also but I was going through rads at the time, had headaches, so not sure if Cymbalta caused them or if the rads flared up the fibro headaches.

  • Alcie1
    Alcie1 Member Posts: 68
    edited March 2010

    I have fibro and have had bad reactions to surgery, radiation, and aromatase inhibitors.  Each new insult makes it worse. 

    The only medications that have any effect for me are Neurontin (really different from Lyrica which caused me to gain 1/2 pound a day) and tramadol, which is a very mild narcotic, but seems not to be addicting for me and I am happy with the lowest dose of 50 mg. 

    Tramadol seems to work better than Vicodin or Percocet for me pn the muscle pain.  It doesn't do a great job on my spinal arthritis, but it has a nice side effect of making me feel happy.  I use it in the morning with my Neurontin because Neurontin makes me sleepy and tramadol does the opposite.  But I don't dare take the tramadol in the late afternoon or evening!  It would keep me awake all night!! Neurontin 300 mg puts me to sleep.  I only use 100 mg a couple of times a day.

    Right now I am taking a vacation from aromatase inhibitors.  Arimidex caused such pain that I stopped it after a month.  Femara was better, but I kept feeling worse and worse all winter and stopped it after 9 months.  Aromasin gave me trigger fingers and horrible hand pain after only 3 pills, that hasn't gone away after 3 weeks off.

    Then I found I was low on vitamin D.  I upped my intake (1200 a day from vitamins and Calcium etc) by an additional 3000 units.  Overnight my fibro pain (muscle) was 50% better.  It didn't help the arthritis, but it was so astonishing I may be able to restart Femara.

    The formula for adding D is: for every 1ng/mL you are low, you have to add 100 units of D.  So my 18 needed 3000 units to get to 48 minimum.  I'm not going higher because I can get out in the sun for the 20 minutes I need now.  I'll ask for another test in late fall.  You have to ask because almost no docs are testing!

  • M360
    M360 Member Posts: 356
    edited April 2010

    I have had fibromyalgia for over 21 years.  I did acupuncture, and manipulative massages which worked well.  My fibromyalgia is a secondary condition from arthritis (15 surgeries) with RSD,and an unknown connective tissue disease.  I have been treated at Cleveland Clinic and Stanford and UCSF, all medications did nothing for the tender points and pain.  Only thing that helped was manipulative massage.  Then I had a horrible flair after a shoulder surgery, and my doctor said we want to try Lyrica.  It worked wonders for me and helps with the nerve pain after surgery and mastectomy.  However, I gained weight on it. I must say I've done the gambit of treatments even paraffin wax poured on arms and legs, tens machines,  Neurontin did nothing for me and I was on over 4000mg a day before doctors said this isn't working. They put me on Baclofen, which helped but caused severe reflex and burned my whole digestive tract.  My Enbrel injections and Lyrica have given me full movement and no pain.  I can't believe that after all these years something worked so well.  I take no pain medications at all.  I do have flair ups and got lymphedema after lymph surgeries and fibromyalgia set in big time like someone said I couldn't even stand anything on my skin, I have a burn apparatus for my bed when it gets that bad.  I never got results from any pain medication they just made me mentally out of it and did nothing for the nerve pain. Plus I got allergic reactions from most of them.  I hope this helps you in any way.  To all you ladies I can say I understand your pain, for most people just don't get it.

  • MAGOB
    MAGOB Member Posts: 299
    edited April 2010

    Hi Ladies - I just started taking tamoxifen and wow, it's really making the fibro bad.  Have any of you been there?  Is it worth it to take the tamoxifen and feel so crappy?  And I know you all understand I'm not being whimpy - fibro is awful when it's flaring up.  Worried this will continue to get worse and not better.  Some say the SEs get better with time.  

    What do you say?   

  • blondie45
    blondie45 Member Posts: 580
    edited April 2010

    I am now doing okay on the tamoxifen after being on it now about 2-1/2 months with fibro. I did add a calcium/mag/zinc combination a few weeks ago that I take 3 times a day and I have been doing better. Don't give up yet on the tamoxifen.

  • MAGOB
    MAGOB Member Posts: 299
    edited April 2010

    Thanks, Blondie.  Did you have SEs at first, and then they went away?  

  • blondie45
    blondie45 Member Posts: 580
    edited April 2010

    MAGOB -Yes I did have some side effects at first, much more intense hot flashes that seem to be better but I am exercising quite a bit and taking Effexor now also. Also I did have more joint pains for the first few weeks. Diagnosis: 4/14/2009, IDC, 1cm, Stage IIIa, Grade 3, 6/18 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+

  • Irishsun
    Irishsun Member Posts: 53
    edited April 2010
    I have Fibromyalgia, I've had several bouts with bc and had bilat mas. in 2007> everything got infected so i've had surgery to repair stomach and breast in 2008 and 2009.  My dr. said the Fibromyalgia was brought on by so much surgery.  I was first given lyrica but I gained 30 pounds in 4 months so quit taking it.  I've been put on nuroton and it seems to help without the SE....have enought of them with the Arimidex!!!!...FUN STUFF!!Undecided

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