March 2010 Chemo Start

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  • Dublin4
    Dublin4 Member Posts: 158
    edited April 2010

    Horsedoc...glad to hear you are feeling normal.  We are on the exact same schedule I think....no real hair loss yet, but I am sure it is coming...trying to tell myself its OK and its temporary.  Just counting the days until the end of May and then end of chemo. 

    hereandnow....great attitude....kickass....I love it....that is my motto as well....one day at a time and kick some IDC cancer butt!!!!  I am with you my friend and I have your back!!!!!!!!! 

    We will get through this.  I am going to enjoy the rest of my normal days until next Friday....then pray for minimal se's like the first round.

    blessings to all!

  • LillyC
    LillyC Member Posts: 64
    edited April 2010

    Hereandnow - Love, love, love your attitude and how some things just work out as meant to be like that barbershop!  My mental pic of you with an AK37 and big boots with your kickass hair heading out to kick some IDC cancer butt is great.  Consider me in your platoon (with my extra 15 pounds) bringing up the rear.  I'm totally in the fight with you - and WE WILL WIN!!

    Teemee- My hair felt the same way as yours, so I did start to pull it out where my scalp was hurting.  I had my second treatment on Wednesday and still have some hair on my head. Not enough to go out in public, but enough to give a slight appearance around a cap.

    MelanieB  Thinking of you and praying that today is a better day. Can't wait to hear next week that all is okay!

    Forsty1 - Thank you so very much for this board and keeping up as you do with everypne.  Hope to meet you and all of my March sisters some day.  You are all in my heart and a great inspiration.

    As for me -  Had my Neulasta shot yesterday and knew I was feeling a little foggy as my words in conversation were a bit off and was having to constantly correct myself.  Well that was not all that was off.  I took my Emend as I was supposed to, but totally forgot my Decadron yesterday morning,  Realized it last night, didn't double up and just took (or thought I did)  the prescribed two with dinner. Realized later that I had taken two Penicillins instead of two Decadrons. Then took the Decadrons.  (I take Penicillin every day as a preventative for getting cellulitis in pelvic area radiated in last cancer, so it was okay that I took it.)  Anyway, please be sure and double check your post-meds in case you have "chembrain"  like me.  I was really foggy evidently yesterday.

    Hope everyone has a good, if not great, weekend!   SmileXOXOXO 

  • hereandnow
    hereandnow Member Posts: 322
    edited April 2010

    G.I. LillyC - I've heard of people using those plastic containers for all the meds we have to take. I certainly sometimes have trouble remembering if I took that Nexium, and I have forgotten meds a couple of times. If I do again, I think I will buy one from the pharmacy.  Even BC Warriors can forget a med  Undecided

    When I get a bit more au fait with how to do it I'll post some progressive head shots - from bob, to pixie, to GI Jane, to occoasional wig. Yes it was emotional, but do-able, and like all of us who've chosen the option of chemo (because it is always our choice) I'm doing it to try and win this battle. Sorry for all the war analogies, I'm a peacenik usually, but I think it's my new kick ass cut and the steroid. Ha!! 

  • staceyt
    staceyt Member Posts: 106
    edited April 2010

    Good Morning Ladies

    hereandnow - I second LillyC - you have a fabulous attitude and that is great - gave me a laugh and put a smile on my face when I read your entry.  You go Girl !!

    frosty1- I noticed yesterday that my legs and ankles were huge (more than normal) and had a hard time getting my shoes on in the morning.  I will let my onco nurse know on Tues (#3) and also this darn twitch in my eye lid - it is driving me up the wall. 

    horsedoc - Thanks for info - did you read it on this post about the twitching?

    Yesterday when I was grocery shopping, I kept running into this woman in the different aisles and she would stare at me.  Finally, she said to me, I'm sorry to stare but I'm looking at the way you tied your scarf and looks great. She told me she wears a wig and that some days it really bothers her.  So while we're standing in the middle of the aisle in the grocery store I tell her where I bought my bandannas and how I tied them.  I felt great after that not only did I receive a compliment I was able to help another Sister !!

    My best to all - Hugs and well wishes - Stacey

  • JLLG
    JLLG Member Posts: 27
    edited April 2010

    Good Morning to all my fellow journey- women! 

    I am 3 days out from my 2nd Taxotere/Cytoxan "Veinous Cosmo".    I have been sitting here just trying to really wrap my head around how I feel physically....kind of strange to say the least.  I can not tell if the Claritin is helping with the Neulasta bone aches since I am still pretty achy.  Last night when I crawled into bed my diaphragm and shoulders and arm and lower jaw ached sooooo bad.  At first I said to myself....I am gonna code....then I just layed there and noted I had no trouble breathing, I was not sweating, I was not having cardiac symptoms....just the bones.....achey from the shot.....

    I had a small bout of nausea yesterday, ate just a bit if homemade chicken soup and it passed.  And I must say I am fatigued.  Every part of me feels as if it weighs a ton....good thing I am bald, I do not think I could hold my head up if there was any hair on it weighing it down LOL!!!

    Well, a new day is blooming along with my daffodils in the front beds.....sunny and bright. 

    Peace to all.....

  • undecided8
    undecided8 Member Posts: 194
    edited April 2010

    So glad to hear that everyone is hanging in there! I had my 2nd tx. on Wednesday, so far so good. Day 4 is usually when I hit the wall. Frosty1- I'm slightly concerned about the edema in your legs? Are you keeping them elevated? Edema is not a normal side affect from decadron, the Onc. does not seem concerned? Have you called the Dr. again to let him know about it? What dosage are you on? Hang in there!

    Suzanne E.

  • MelB
    MelB Member Posts: 9
    edited April 2010

    Thanks to all of you for your well-wishes for my biopsy next week!  And LillyC thank you for the Bible verse...I have been gaining so much comfort from daily Bible reading and it means the world to me!!  That was so thoughtful to share that verse with me!

    I have the eye-twitching too!!!!  It's not too too annoying but in the past day or two it's gotten more frequent.  Weird! 

    I also had the bloody nose thing after my first round...not really a nosebleed but whenever you wipe your nose it's bloody.  It went on for days, then I irrigated my sinuses with my neti pot and it cleared up.  It hasn't happened after round #2...yet.

    I've gotten this yucky mouth thing going on right now and even the good tasting food tastes bad.  Yesterday after reading about some people liking milkshakes, I treated myself to my favorite milkshake, and even it tasted funky.  Oh well.  The weird thing is if I eat peas and beans and veggies, they taste like normal.  I guess I'll have to stick to my veggies.

    Melanie B

  • MelB
    MelB Member Posts: 9
    edited April 2010

    Oh and hereandnow, what a great barbershop you found!   That is so cool!!

    Horsedoc, my hair also started coming out around day 14 "when you pull on it".  My husband caught me pulling on it, and said please stop pulling on your hair!  But it was strangely hard not to pull on it, to "check".  Hubby offered to shave it for me, that was the hardest time for me.  But I decided not to, I wanted to keep it for as long as I could.  I decided to start wearing scarves at that time, for 2 reasons: 1. to stop myself from pulling on it, and 2. to get used to wearing something on my head, easing myself into the whole thing.  And it worked, I did stop pulling and it has made the transition easier.  Once I started wearing the scarf the hair coming out stopped upsetting me as much.  I cut my hair shorter, but long enough that you could see it under a cap.  And I still have about 1/4 of my hair left, not much but enough that I can still wear a cap out and look "normal".  For now.

    Melanie B

  • LillyC
    LillyC Member Posts: 64
    edited April 2010
    Can't help but saying this once again - I LOVE YOU ALL.   GOD BLESS!
  • sarikasd
    sarikasd Member Posts: 31
    edited April 2010

    Hello Ladies, 

    Melanie- I had a similar scare as my Onc thought she saw something on my liver in my PET Scan.  However, it turned out to be nothing in CT Scan.  So I totally understand your anxiety. I am praying that everything turns out ok for you.

    Mamaof3- Yours and mine diagnosis are the same but we seem to be having different treatment plans. I will be having 4 rounds of done dense Taxol and no radiation since I am lymph node negative.  Can you please tell me more about your treatment decision? I will like to know if I need to discuss some more options which my Onc.

    Sorry for the hair loss trauma that everyone seems to be going through.  I went through it 2 weeks ago after my round #2 and was absolutely miserable.  But after 3 days of hair falling all over, I had had enough and just shaved it off.  I felt so good after dealing with it and have been mostly wearing scarves since.  My wig is also great and my friends and family say it looks so cute that when my hair grows back, I should have it in the same style as my wigSmile

    I had my round # 3 two days ago.  I told my Onc that I was very fatigued and dizzy after round #2 so she give me an extra bottle of fluids during the infusion.  It seems to have helped me a lot since I am feeling much better than I was after the first 2 rounds.  I just hope it lasts.  Also for the mouth sores, my Onc suggested using Orajel.  I also have vaginal dryness for which I am told to use KY gel.  Just some tips for anyone having similar issues.

    I hope everyone has manageable SEs.

  • hmh23
    hmh23 Member Posts: 306
    edited April 2010

    Dear Lisa;  Can't wait to see those progressive hair pics!!! Heather

  • hmh23
    hmh23 Member Posts: 306
    edited April 2010

    Dear MelB;  There's nothing better for you right now than veggies!  Your taste buds might be telling you that your body needs all of these good things to help you in this battle. 

    Put your thoughts and anxiety about your upcoming tests in another room, shut the door and enjoy the weekend.  Please remember, we have all been there when the unexpected spot, shadow,etc appears and we are all there for you now.  

    Dream of wellness and eat your veggies! Heather

  • GurleeGirrl
    GurleeGirrl Member Posts: 13
    edited April 2010

    Day 4 after second treatment.  This has been so much worse than my first!  I haven't had any energy to go outside or anything.  I have had bad nausea and extreme fatigue. Insomnia sets in at night.  The Neulasta shots have my jaw, hips, knees, and ankles sore :(  I just keep thinking - "Tomorrow will be better". 

    Hugs to all my fellow Marchers.

  • MelB
    MelB Member Posts: 9
    edited April 2010

    hmh23  Heather, I know!  I have tried so hard since I first found my lump to fix my eating habits...I have stuck to a mostly plant-based diet and am eating lots of veggies.  But that gets really hard sometimes, sometimes you just crave something good!!  I thought it was really appropriate that when I tried treating myself to something on my "naughty" list yesterday, that it tasted pretty cruddy, and when I went back to the veggies they tasted fine.  Like that was God's way of keeping me on track.  So no more milkshakes for me!!!  Back to the veggies...lol  :)

    Melanie B

  • Charley
    Charley Member Posts: 255
    edited April 2010

    Hello ladies -

    I am 3 days out ... I think I had tx the same day as you did JLLG. How many treatments are you getting?  I am getting 6 every 2 weeks so I just finished with #3.

    And today the fatigue and nausea have set in. The nausea is new for me.  I've been lucky so far with not having any nausea until now ...  Have barely got out of bed but know I have to get moving ...

    With re: to eating habits - after my last treatment for about the first 5 or 6 days all I craved was hamburgers and french fries .. something I never ate pre-chemo!  The thought of a salad or veggies (which I normally love) made me sick! Probably the reason for my 3lb weight gain between txt 2 and 3.

    I am praying for you Melanie and sending good vibes your way!

    Hugs, Charley

  • teemee
    teemee Member Posts: 122
    edited April 2010

    JLLG, that's exactly where the neupogen hit me, every breath hurt for 2 days. I hope hope hope yours goes away more quickly than mine did. It seemed I could feel every rib.

    Every post I read today warmed my heart. I can't get all the names once I've scrolled down here but I just wanted you to know how much you all help me, daily. Thank you.

  • mamaof3bugs
    mamaof3bugs Member Posts: 198
    edited April 2010
    sarikasd the reason that I am on the chemo cocktail I am on is my age and the size of my tumor.  I am 37 and my tumor was 3.5cm so my onc wanted to be aggressive.  My original onc only wanted to do 4 DD AC and I wanted to include the taxol as it seems to be standard of care for us TNs.  When I met with my new onc she gave me numerous options but we agreed to take the most aggressive approach.  So I am one round in and I don't have a single regret.  Good luck with your treatment, it looks as though you are almost done, Congrats!!  Angi
  • staceyt
    staceyt Member Posts: 106
    edited April 2010

    Right back at you LillyC - StaceyKiss

  • Kayne
    Kayne Member Posts: 103
    edited April 2010

    MelanieB--positive thoughts, positive thoughts, we are all praying for you!!

    Sorry to those that are having a hard time with SE.  I go for round 2 on Mon. and seem to be getting anxious.  I wasn't the for the first one and didn't have a bad time.  So what gives???

    Does anyone on AC know about when my hair will start to go?  I am day 12 after first treatment and my leg hair is still growing.  Haven't shed anything yet.  My daughter's prom is Friday, 16th and everyone is coming to our house.  Just wondering if I'll still have hair by next Friday. 

    Charley-- the thought of veggies made me sick too!!  Hope you feel better soon. 

  • Dublin4
    Dublin4 Member Posts: 158
    edited April 2010

    praying for minimal se's for all and speedy recovery to feeling some what normal again!!!!

    Hang in!!!!

  • CBeam
    CBeam Member Posts: 11
    edited April 2010

    I must thank you all for posting so much & so often; it is so inspiring to read your experiences.  I so appreciate you all!

    I am a week past treatment #2 - have three left of the Adriamycin & Cytoxan before starting weekly treatments of carboplatin, taxotere & herceptin - which will last for a year.  Some of you seem so close to the end!  I have had minimal SE's - nothing out of the ordinary; headaches, nose clots, funny tasting food, foggy brain - and twitches!  Glad to hear strange dreams on the list, too, as I sure have had some bizarre ones.  I'm pulling for you all!  Hang in there - here's too a great weekend for the Marchers!

  • sarikasd
    sarikasd Member Posts: 31
    edited April 2010

    Angi - Thank you for replying to my question.  I am 33 yrs old and my tumor was 3.2 cms so we are pretty much in the same stage.  I will also be getting taxol but it will be 4 rounds of DD. However, the radiation Onc ruled out radiation for me because of the lymph node negative status.  I see that you are also lymph node negative hence I wanted to understand the reason behind it.

    Is there anyone else getting radiation inspite of lymph node negative status and the tumor being less than 4 cms?  Maybe this is something I need to discuss with my Onc once again. 

    Kayne- My hair started falling on day 3 after my round #2 of AC.  Within 3 days I had lost a lot of hair which was upsetting so I shaved it to 1/4 in on day 4 and have been ok with since then.

  • mamaof3bugs
    mamaof3bugs Member Posts: 198
    edited April 2010

    sarikasd my onc told me that no matter if I had a lumpectomy (which I did) or a masectomy I would be having radiation.  I would talk with your onc about it but each Dr. seems to have their own thoughts on treatment.  There is a forum just for TNs, there sould be lots of opinions over there.  Keep us posted. Angi

  • EZH
    EZH Member Posts: 48
    edited April 2010

    Hello everyone.  I've been lurking about the last few days and keeping up with everyone. Like TeeMee, once I scroll down here, I can't remember all the specific names!  However, I do read the thread everyday, it pulls me up, reminds me that we are all in this place together.

    MelB:  thinking of you since I read the post about the questionable bone item...sending peace and calm and all wishes for only the best news.

    StaceyT:  my round #3 is also on the upcoming Tuesday.  Enjoy the weekend, come Monday, Decadron and here we go again. 

    I had a little hard time earlier this week.  Set out to run some errands and about halfway through, was so tired, had to come home.  Got home, tried to nap, couldn't.  Too tired to accomplish what I set out to do and too restless to sleep, I just sat there, sort of overwhelmed and immobilized. Not a good day psychologically.  Tears, the whole nine yards.  Yikes, I really don't like falling apart like that.  

    Let's see, this week, just to add to Frostys list of the weeks fun; I have dry mouth, loss of appetite, knee pain, stomach upset, insomnia.  But, really, all in all, if the rest goes the same (and I am hopeful that it will), then I'll be grateful.  

    Wishing all the Marchers (read the April 2010 starters thread, they are jealous of our cool name! lol.) a weekend w/out s/e's that is relaxing and warm and sunny...come on Spring!  

    Here's to "marching" forward and NOT looking back! 

  • hereandnow
    hereandnow Member Posts: 322
    edited April 2010

    sarikasd -  I had an opinion from a radiation oncologist as my tumour was 3cm and grade 3 and I am 43 years old and had skin sparing mastectomy and AND  (no nodes).  The question of radiation is a very tricky one, and like with lots of things here - breast cancer is not one disease. It comes down to issues of tumour aggression, size and margins, how close it was both to the posterior/lateral/medial margins but also how close to the skin and its lymphatics. My radiation onc brought along the latest systematic review articles, and we went throught them.

    And then it all comes down to absolute risk reduction for you personally, versus potential side effects, like damage to underlying tissues etc. For me in my situation - I decided to skip the rays. But I'll be watching the literature. I also know my case is being brought up in a multidisciplinary meeting next week, where the pathology will be reviewed, all my films reviewed, and the surgeon and medical oncologist and rad oncol will be there. So, putting all their heads together, in one room, they may come up with new advice.

    All in all, if you've got any questions definately get a professional opinion from your onc. We've got to deal with enough uncertainty anyway, may as well get those questions out there to those who have studied for 10-15 years to specialise in your question.

    Onward Marchers.

  • carolsue63
    carolsue63 Member Posts: 126
    edited April 2010

    I love coming here and reading through all your posts. You are such amazing, incredible women, and I'm so thankful to have such a supportive group to come to. As much as I wish none of us would have to go through the difficult times, it's those difficult times that bring about the outpouring of love and support and all the knowledge that is shared by not only the March 2010 group, but all the ladies who pop in from last month, and the month before, and last year... And I'll stop now, you get my drift.Embarassed

    I can't believe I'm saying this, but I had such a good time at my chemo treatment today. My sister came with me today (5+ year Her2+ survivor and in perfect health), and we laughed ourselves silly. If laughter is the best medicine, I think I may have OD'ed. Laughing

  • JLLG
    JLLG Member Posts: 27
    edited April 2010

    Charley- I am taking Taxotere and Cytoxan every 3 weeks for a total of 4 tx's.  I then am going to have 33 radiation treatments.  I chose a lumpectomy.  My margins were clear.  I went to Mass. General Hosp in Boston for my treatment plan.  Since I live a ways from there, I found an Oncologist locally that is following the recommendations made by the MGH team. 

    TeeMee- The chest thing too, has passed.  Quite unnerving though......thought I was going to check out.....

    The cellulitis in my left shin is all but gone now....the swelling is gone......still my shin is a weird color.....sort of brownish....hopefully this will fade.

    Peace to you all 

  • frosty1
    frosty1 Member Posts: 420
    edited April 2010

    carolsue -- sounds like you had fun.  And laughter is good for us.  We all needed it this week!

    Suzanne -- thank you for being so concerned about my elephant legs.  The onc and his nurse were not concerned after they looked at my legs at my last infusion.  It is a really strange SE -- it starts on Monday and ends on Friday and goes away over night.  This week it is more left leg than both.  I will check in with them again on Wednesday next week.  For now I just don't wear skirts this last week before my next chemo.

    Sounds like everyone is doing well -- either coming back up after their next dose or hitting the gulley with the anticipation of coming back up.  Every once in a while, I have Pat Benatar's song going through my head "Love is a Battlefield":  we are strong ... and I just keep repeating that one line. 

    A lovely weekend to you all!

  • carolsue63
    carolsue63 Member Posts: 126
    edited April 2010
    Janice -- glad you're cellulitis is doing so much better. I had it about 10 years ago (ankles and lower legs), and I remember it turning that brownish shade as it healed. It did fade, and the fact that I don't remember how long it took makes me think it didn't take too long.  Hope yours is a distant memory soon, too. Smile
  • badger
    badger Member Posts: 34,614
    edited April 2010

    Hey carolsue were you in the group tx "party room" during my last tx?  I was in an individual area by the windows again but could hear some women hootin & hollerin LOL!   

    For my first two tx's I notice a trend: the first week SE is mainly nausea (for which I take compazine and frequent small bland meals), the second week SE is mainly fatigue (for which I take naps and walks and eat really well), and the third week is mainly back to normal.  Then I have another tx.  I go for #3 next week Tues 4/13 and will be halfway thru after that. 

    Hair is baby fine now with lots of scalp showing.  I have newfound sympathy for guys who do comb-overs!  I splurged $20 on a pair of satin pillowcases, they just arrived today and are in the wash as we speak.  Thought it would feel nice and maybe lose fewer hairs overnight.

    Still going commando, and haven't shaved my head yet.  Not sure I will, maybe just let it come out naturally since it doesn't hurt.  There is hair there, a close-cropped white fringe like Captain Picard LOL!!  I started using Nioxin shampoo, takes like 1 minute to wash my hair these days.

    While I REALLY hate being without hair, ya know, this is what chemo does, this is how I look and if I can live with it so can other people.  Mostly everyone is normal with me, once they get over the initial shock.  Not much pity but some OMG and WTH looks.  And more looks of compassion and admiration and lady you have guts than I'd expected.  So far only one person has come right out and said what's up with your hair.

    The best (non-)reaction was by a co-worker's three year old son this afternoon, didn't phase him to meet a bald-headed woman!  And, the bald guys in my office smile at me a lot more these days.  :-)

    This is getting long so will say good night. Sweet dreams and minimal SE's.  {{hugs}}

    edit to add the word compassion, it's a better descriptor.  Kiss

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