November 2009-Starting Chemo

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  • Melinda41
    Melinda41 Member Posts: 672
    edited April 2010

    Linda:      So glad to hear that you are home safe and sound.

    Mickey:     let us know when you get a surgery date! 

  • micheleboots
    micheleboots Member Posts: 1,993
    edited April 2010

    Linda, good to hear all went well for you...I know what you mean by no sleeping at the hosp.  I could complain for an hour about that....but I must go to work....WHAAAA, why can't I win the lotto.

  • BrendaSharon
    BrendaSharon Member Posts: 506
    edited April 2010

    Alicia,Undecided

    A'wwwwwww, I wish you where feeling as good as you look~~

    Cafelovr,Smile

    :-)  Sooooo happy for you, Congrats on the surgery going well and being back home to rest.

    GrammaMiceky,Frown

    ;-( Sooooo sorry to hear you have to wait, but before long you will too be over that dang wall. Keep us all posted as to what and when they will do your surgery and finish your taxol.

    To everyone (((((HUGS)))))

  • Cafelovr
    Cafelovr Member Posts: 1,534
    edited April 2010

    Ok, for those who had a BMX...how long until the poo fairy came to pay his visit?  I'm doing Miralax and Colase, but I have dynamite just in case. I do NOT want to go down that road again...

  • Melinda41
    Melinda41 Member Posts: 672
    edited April 2010
    Linda:  I would think about three days is all I would stand for. I like Milk of Magnesia, I get good results with that.
  • JustmeAlicia
    JustmeAlicia Member Posts: 1,529
    edited April 2010

    Linda ~ I need the pain meds ~ took the stool softener, then had to resort to Milk of Magnesia and Miralax.  I was like 7 days ~ it was not fun !!!

    Hope you are feeling ok.

    :)
    Alicia

  • GrandmaMickey
    GrandmaMickey Member Posts: 41
    edited April 2010
    Well got the date - next Firday 4-16-10 - no time to think - OK guys - help me here - what do I need to bring?  What should I expect from a unilateral mx (rt side)?  Scared but let's get it over with, right?  Did you start the laxatives as soon as you got home?  Oh My!  Lions and
    Tigers and Bears!  Wish I could click my heels and make all of us whole and healthy again -
  • Melinda41
    Melinda41 Member Posts: 672
    edited April 2010

    Mickey:  I had a right uni. You will need to pack slip on pants and button up shirt. I had two drains and they had belt loops. I wore a belt around my waist with the drains on (don't put the belt through your pants, you will only make that mistake once). You will want a pillow in the car and maybe a small pillow to cushion between the right uni and the passenger seat belt.

    Do they have to remove or mess with your lymph nodes on that side? If so, reaching up will be a problem for awhile.

    For home, might I suggest moist toilet wipes. Being right handed, wiping was a little tricky at first and the moist wipes made me feel cleaner.

  • micheleboots
    micheleboots Member Posts: 1,993
    edited April 2010

    Grandamamickey, good to hear things are rolling.  It was much easier than I would have thought.  I guess there are no muscles in the breast, so not to much pain.  Drains are a pain, but once you get use to them it is not bad.  I didn't need any laxative, don't know why you would...that is more  a chemo/steroid thing.  I think the worst thing was not being able to have my daily coffee on operation day...whaa...I love my coffee. Good luck.

  • GrandmaMickey
    GrandmaMickey Member Posts: 41
    edited April 2010

    I figured I would need laxatives for pain meds - maybe not?  I will have the sentinal node checked at time of surgery and if it is positive then they will remove the nodes around it.

    Coffee is my fave too!  I'm 2nd case in the morning so it won't be too bad - did you bring special clothes?  I have a drain holder made by one of our lovely ladies - sorry I can't remember your name but it will be put in use next week.  Laughing

  • micheleboots
    micheleboots Member Posts: 1,993
    edited April 2010

    My Dh b rought me a big t-shirt of his to wear home from the H.  I pinned the drain to the inside of that.  I used his shirts for  about two weeks.  It was easy to get off and on and hid the drain from view.  I would also take ear plugs to help you sleep.  I had a hard time sleeping between the vitals checks and the lady whos 4 year old kid was with her the whole time and the dr. who came to see her and the cleaning crew who cleaned the room at 4:00am....GGGRRRR...I didn't get any sleep.   Ear plugs are a must.

  • Melinda41
    Melinda41 Member Posts: 672
    edited April 2010

    Mickey: I only spent one night in the hospital, so I am sure I was over packed. But earplugs sound like a great idea. And maybe your favorite toothpaste, I remember wanting to brush my teeth several times to get rid of the cotton mouth.

    Pain meds do make me constipated, so having something at home to counter act that is a good idea. If I recall though, I had more trouble with chemo constipation than I did with surgery constipation.

    I met with a plastic surgeon, yesterday. It wasn't very optimistic sounding. I will see him again six months after I finish rads to have a better idea of what my options will be.

  • Cafelovr
    Cafelovr Member Posts: 1,534
    edited April 2010

    Stretch pants, a button up shirt, and my toothbrush was what I brought. You don't have time for much else. I wouldn't bring a robe or anything, because you may leak on it. Just wear the hospital gown. I had surgery at noon, got to my room at 3 and came home at 8 the next morning.  The nurses brought meds at 1 and 5 in the morning and did vitals at 2 and 6. You won't get much sleep or need earplugs.

    Take the laxitives just in case. I had surgery Tuesday, and have yet to receive a visit from the poo fairy...ERGH!!!!

    I feel alot better being home, but the nerves are driving me insane!

  • Melinda41
    Melinda41 Member Posts: 672
    edited April 2010

    Linda: I have sent you poo fairy sprinkles, hope that they have worked! I laughed about "leaking on your robe". Cancer isn't for the faint of heart is it?

    Hope everyone is doing well!

    Oh, I did see a plastic surgeon. He said come back six months after I finish rads. He didn't sound optimistic about my options, bummer.

  • JustmeAlicia
    JustmeAlicia Member Posts: 1,529
    edited April 2010

    Linda ~ do you have any ativan for your nerves?!  They gave me them for chemo nausea they also help calm me down..........  Hope you are feeling ok and the poop fairy comes soon.

    Melinda ~ what did the PS say your options are?  Forgive me did you have a double mx or a uni? I am sorry it isn't sounding good.  :(

    Grandmamickey ~ I will be thinking of you this week and hoping all goes as smoothly as possible. 

  • Melinda41
    Melinda41 Member Posts: 672
    edited April 2010

    Alicia: I had a right uni, but am completely open to taking lefty off at some point. He said my best bet is the Lat Flap and I really hate the thought of using perfectly good muscle just to make a boob. But, how radiation affects me will be a big issue. Apparently, my pec muscle was too involved in the mastectomy to get a good implant under there.

    So, I am just not going to worry about it, now. I have 8-9 months before anyone would touch me anyway. I am thinking I could go ahead and get the good one taken off and just have all sizes of different foobs to wear with all different clothes. Can you imagine being an A cup in a tank top, but being a D cup in a va-va-vavoom shirt. I could really mess with people's heads.

  • micheleboots
    micheleboots Member Posts: 1,993
    edited April 2010

    Malinda, I like your thinking about the multi boobs...Why didn't I think of that.  Most days I wish I had gotten the PS to take the two.  At least I wouldn't be lopsided.  Could you imagine the surprised look on the faces of your friends at you high school reunion or some fancy party...too funny.  What the heck you could change your wig too..

  • JustmeAlicia
    JustmeAlicia Member Posts: 1,529
    edited April 2010

    I like Michele LIKE your thinking Melinda ~ 

    :)

  • Melinda41
    Melinda41 Member Posts: 672
    edited April 2010

    I went to visit my former MIL, bless her heart, her mind is going, she has good days and bad. Today was a pretty good say, she was making a lot of sense....

    Until she asked me, " So did your boob ever grow back?"

  • micheleboots
    micheleboots Member Posts: 1,993
    edited April 2010

    Wouldn't that be nice if our boobs did grow back...bless her soul.  I am going to see my grandmother next month.  I am not sure she knows about my cancer.  She has Alzheimer's, so if she did I am sure she has forgotten...I don'twant to scare her, yet I don't want to wear my wig...

  • Cafelovr
    Cafelovr Member Posts: 1,534
    edited April 2010

    LOL Melinda! My PS is suggesting a DIEP flap for the right breast and a lat flap for the right. I have no regrets in my BMX. I'm just so numb and tender and sore on the right. I guess that's a good sign that the feeling is coming back. It feels like electical current in my right (cancerous) breast. Is this the nerves regenerating? But there is NO pain! Thank Goodness!!!

    I know this is TMI, but thanks for the Poo Fairy. He came last night and all is well!

    Alicia, I don't have Ativan. I have Xanax and Celexa. I haven't taken the Xanax since the AC steroid high, but I do take the Celexa. Ovarian surgery is up in the air. If that happens, they'll put me on Effexor.

  • Melinda41
    Melinda41 Member Posts: 672
    edited April 2010

    Linda, I am sorry the poo fairy took so long to get there, but glad that all is well, now. I wonder why the PS is suggesting two different types of recon for you. I am worried about having a Lat Flap just on one side, doesn't it make sense that you would get real crooked after a few years?

    Electrical tingles are hard to get used to, but it is your nerves regrowing, so that is good.

  • Cafelovr
    Cafelovr Member Posts: 1,534
    edited April 2010

    I guess doing both breasts from my abdomen is real rough on the ab muscles and recovery is harder. I have a year to decide though. I meet my rad onc on 5-5-10 then start the rads.

    One thing that I thought was interesting...the PS said to get to my goal weight before surgery. Even though your ab fat is now in your breast, your body assumes it's ab fat. If you gain or lose weight, your boobs will grow or shrink...hmmm. I'm glad I have a year to decide :)

  • Melinda41
    Melinda41 Member Posts: 672
    edited April 2010

    Linda: That is interesting what your PS said. But please clarify, you said DIEP and Lat but you wrote both on your right side (that would be a whole lotta booby!). So which is your cancery side and which operation are they suggesting for that side.

    I wondered about the goal weight also. Like you, I have time to get it together. But what if we get to goal weight and don't have the fat to spare? (A girl can dream, right?). I also wondered if we could use this time to increase our pecs and lats, so there is more muscle to spare?

    I already have an abdominal hernia left over from having kids, so I doubt I would be a candidate for the Tram Flappy thing, but I would like to have that hernia tucked back in while I am under.

    But I do have saddlebags to spare, they probably won't go anywhere, ever. They could slice each of those babies off and make at least a Bcup on each side.

    Too bad we can't "bank" our fat like you bank your blood. Take all this extra now, let me get back into shape and then thaw out that fat and slap it back on. (good thing I am not a doctor, I would be a mad scientist).

  • Cafelovr
    Cafelovr Member Posts: 1,534
    edited April 2010

    Whoops! Friggin chemo brain...diep for the left (the cancerous breast) and lat flap for the right (prophylactic side). I must of been high on Percocet because my left side is my cancerous side!

    I asked about if there was not enough fat to form a breast. The way it was explained to me was that they take muscle (if needed) and arteries are internally re-routed up to the breast. They don't need to be cut. If there is not enough fat to form the mold, they can lipo the hips and tushy to make a decent size breast. Which is good for me...I carry my weight in my stomach and hips. I'm a 32G or a 34DDD. I won't have as large of breasts as I used to, but I'm looking forward to shopping at Victoria Secrets!

  • GrandmaMickey
    GrandmaMickey Member Posts: 41
    edited April 2010

    check the other discussions about Lat flaps and DIEPs and TRAMS - they all take muscle just not the fat.  heck if they would take just the fat, I'd be in 7th heaven but my doc said if I had the surgery in May, I wouldn't be able to travel or work until October - that's a heck of a recovery time so I said no thank you.  They probably look more realistic, but my hubby and I are just happy to have the cancer gone - Bertha (my sick boob) is going to be remade into Bertie with an implant and Betty (my good boob) will get a "touch up" - my boobs don't usually lose too much weight when I lose - I've gained about 15 pounds on chemo and I'm only 5'1.5" (notice the 1.5, not 1 Wink)so it really shows in my tummy, thighs and bootie.

    Melinda - why are you doing RADS with a mastectomy?  I thought that was usually done with lumpectomies

    Linda - celebrating the Poo Fairy's arrival !

    Everyone take care and I'll keep you posted.

  • Melinda41
    Melinda41 Member Posts: 672
    edited April 2010

    Mickey: I still have to do rads since I had node involvement and there is still a node underneath my chest muscle that is involved.

    I did remember to ask the chemo nurse how the Herceptin only will go. She said, no premeds, just a 30 minute infusion of Herceptin. So that is good, I hate, hate, hate the Benedryl buzz. I am not a drinker, but I used to be, the benedryl is like shots of tequila for me. This is my chemo brain, and this is my chemo brain on more drugs, not a pretty picture.

    3 more to go!

  • micheleboots
    micheleboots Member Posts: 1,993
    edited April 2010

    Linda, have you ruled out the idea of expanders and inplants?  i think that is the route I will take...but not for a while...at least 6 months away...

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited April 2010

    Melinda: You should be getting 3 times the herceptin every 3 weeks. Mine takes 1 1/2 hours not 30 minutes. I'd be scared if they administered it over such a short time.

    My radiation is going ok, then again I've only had 6. I've got an echo scheduled for this afternoon. Next herceptin is next Wednesday. DH keeps reminding me how long since last chemo - today is 5 weeks!!! My hair looks like it's growing a bit - hurray!!!

     All those still on chemo - hang in there, not long to go!!

    Sue

  • Melinda41
    Melinda41 Member Posts: 672
    edited April 2010

    Suepen: I won't be surprised if it is 1 1/2 hours, I think she was just going by the bag I get now, which is weekly. She did have to double check about the pre-meds and said she doesn't do anyone that is H only, so she could very well be mistaken.

    I am just glad to know that I will be able to drive myself. Although my Mom admitted that she will miss me when chemo is over. We have spent a lot of time together in that room. Mom even crocheted a baby blanket for one of the pregnant chemo nurses during my infusion. Maybe it is not me she will miss, she has bonded with the nurses and the patients we see.

    I did get very teary during yesterdays chemo. There was an elderly man that I saw during his first infusion last month. He walked in last month, in good spirits, his son's were with him, we shared my Mom's birthday cupcakes with them. Yesterday, he was bald and frail and in a wheelchair. It really shook me up. I am crying now just thinking about it, this shit sucks!

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