MARCH 2010 Rads Group

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  • Sugar77
    Sugar77 Member Posts: 2,138
    edited April 2010

    I had 11 of 21 treatments today.  The equipment was down first thing this morning so it was backed up by the time I got there.  It was nice because it gave me an opportunity to chit chat with one of my co-workers who came with me for company today.  I didn't even really notice the delay much at all.  I find I get very tired in the afternoon.  It's weird...it's like a wave of fatigue comes on a few hours after treatment.  I then feel better later on after I've relaxed a bit and I sleep great and feel normal in the morning. It's hard to describe but it's a different fatigue than I had with chemo.  Do any of you get this too?

    Sherri 

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited April 2010

    Sugar-

    I can't compare radiation fatigue to chemo fatigue, since I did not have chemo, but mine was(and still is) much like yours. My treatments were at 4 in the afternoon, and by about 5:30, a wave of intense tiredness would wash over me. It's not unpleasant, it just IS. I've been sleeping like a rock for the first time in years. 

    I finished my treatments yesterday, and the doctor told me I should feel better and better every day from now on.

    Mary

  • June2268
    June2268 Member Posts: 1,202
    edited April 2010
    Welcome Tex17!   It is amazing at the strength each and every one of us has within us........have you tried the SLAM DUNK?  There is something about that dunk that just feels right.....good luck with your treatments.....June
  • fan2544
    fan2544 Member Posts: 22
    edited April 2010

    Hi ladies.

    First of all glad  my Slam Dunk has caught on! Its what got me through~ that and a great Rads team. Two weeks post RADS and just starting to see the burn heal up but still dealing with fatigue and pain but back in the game. Saw Onc today and all moving forward so hang in there ladies there is a life after RADS but be prepared it will take a while for the SE's to subside as all is cumulative. hugs to all.

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited April 2010

    Fan-

    Did the SE's start to get better right away, or did they get worse after you ended and then get better? I just finished yesterday and I'm just wondering if there are any surprises to still come. 

    Mary

  • fan2544
    fan2544 Member Posts: 22
    edited April 2010

    Heh Mary. I wont beat around the bush here. They did get worse for about 10 days and then all started to settle down. Burn got intensive and so was the interior pain where surgery was but tolerable . So remember to give yourself some extra time once it is all over. Be kind to youselves for a bit longer! :)

  • MariannaLaFrance
    MariannaLaFrance Member Posts: 777
    edited April 2010

    Treatment #12 today, and getting a little pink underneath. I did my slam dunk and felt great about it! One more down, only about ? more to go!

     I also get a pretty profound fatigue at the end of the day. My treatments are at 3:30 each day, and I am fine until around 5:30 pm, then I take a dip. Depending on how much sleep I had the previous night, I am either tired until bedtime, or I get a 2nd wind.  I stayed up until nearly midnight on Sunday evening, but last night I could barely get through reading to my kids... I was nodding off and my son kept nudging me back awake!  Smile  Good to know I can read myself to sleep with Harry Potter.

    Hope all is well with all of you ladies! Keep up your spirits, we're getting closer to the end day by day!  Hoping the fatigue goes away quickly afterwards, because I want to start training for the Tour de PInk - which takes place Oct 1-3 in Hershey, PA. It's a ride to NYC.

  • CTMOM1234
    CTMOM1234 Member Posts: 633
    edited April 2010

    SLAM DUNKED #21 today and dr. changed my boosts from 8 to 5, so that means just 9 more treatments left!!!

    Wanted to respond to those who were asking about the "wave of tiredness" as I call it. What you wrote is almost exactly what I started feeling at ~ treatment 14, a sort of wooziness that felt better if I could close my eyes but wouldn't describe it as exhaustion; was worried that it would get worse (both more frequent and more powerful) but it has stayed pretty much the same and I feel it late in the day and evening. So hang in there, it's manageable and doesn't mean you'll get worse, just the same hopefully.

    Monday after Easter/treatment #20 brought on the redness (like a nice red sunburn over entire zap area, definitely not the kind of thing that I'd choose to go back out into the sun and get more of) and was pretty worried heading into today's #21 that I was going to be really raw, but am happy to report that am going to bed tonight no redder than last night. Keeping fingers crossed that these last 4 regular treatments won't cook me like a lobster. Asked techs if they ever stop before full course and they said they usually just plow through, so I anticipate whether I'm cookin' or not this week, I'll just take it on the chin (actually left boob) and be happy to head into the boost-phase.

    Good luck everyone. Friday is almost here and that means no rads weekend!!!! :)

  • charmainejensenvoisine
    charmainejensenvoisine Member Posts: 369
    edited April 2010

    Well for those that are just finishing off RADS I had 21 treatments and of those were 5 BOOSTS.  I got burned pretty badly, particularly under the underarm (right breast and underarm).

    Of the right breast that got burned, it was mostly the areola and nipple area that was affected the most of the entire breast hmmm and the past couple of days it has been peeling like big time (like with a sunburn).  The underarm is still quite red and just a tiny bit of peeling just starting, but it still has quite a ways to go before the redness goes away, I feel it will take at least a few weeks to a month for the underarm burn to subside.  (back to using cortisteroid cream for that) and using Aloe Vera Gel 98% (got from health store for the areola/nipple area).

    So much luck to those that are nearing the end of your treatments... I am 8 days post radiation therapy.   Charmaine

  • joanneasiata
    joanneasiata Member Posts: 719
    edited April 2010

    HI ALL

    I had my # ? zap today i think it would be  around 9  i just love the slam dunk part of it all, Ive been a bit slack in my visits here as Ive found another love, and that is taking up a lot of my time its jigsaw puzzles I'm addicted to them   . My boob is still sore on the inner part and I'm going a pinkish colour ,guess its a bit early so ill cross my fingers i dont burn to much , keep the hard slam dunks up ladies and take care

    JOJO

  • cabmom
    cabmom Member Posts: 388
    edited April 2010

    Welcome Tex17 and it will hopefully go quickly for you!

    Yeah.....I'm down to single digits....only 9 to go.   

  • xiaomei
    xiaomei Member Posts: 43
    edited April 2010

    Irishmom,
    I think you have the right to feel this way, especially it came as a surprise. They should have known that the construction was coming and discussed with you the alternatives, in advance.

    To share with all:
    Yesterday I asked the doctor why all the documents I read say that we should not put on lotion 4 hours before radiation. He corrected me: "SIX hours!" He explained that if you have lotion on your breast, the x-rays will go to the skin instead of going to inside the breat. So be aware, the lotion might cause burns if used within 6 hours.

  • Mommaof2
    Mommaof2 Member Posts: 112
    edited April 2010

    Cabomom - I hope your new prescription works for you and you don't have to take the oral pill.  I bought a tube of cortisone cream yesterday, but then noticed it has antioxidants in it - not sure if I should use it or not, I plan on asking my nurse at my appt. this morning.

    We are having a crazy spring snow storm here - my kids were lucky and have the day off from school.  I'm not looking forward to my drive to the hospital for my treatment..hopefully the roads won't be too bad.  I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL SUMMER IS HERE!!!!

    I hope everyone has a great day!

  • irish47
    irish47 Member Posts: 109
    edited April 2010

    Hi to all my Rad buddies,

    speaking of tiredness, had zap no.9 at midday today and for the past hour (it's 4pm here) have felt a wave of tiredness.  It's a bit like feeling dizzy too and like that feeling you get when that first glass of wine hits your brain (I wish!).  Don't know if this is just a coincidence or if it's the rad tiredness kicking in Also have little raised areas like prickly heat rash over my boob. 

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited April 2010

    Irish-

    I've had that dizzy, glass of wine feeling too. This past Sunday(Easter) I was singing in the front row of choir at church and I had to slip out of my high heels! I whispered to the ladies next to me that I was feeling a bit woozy, and they reassured me that I could grab them if I felt like I was going to fall! It's good to have friends!

    My last day of rads was Monday, and I'm hoping this occasional wooziness will go away soon!

    Mary

  • AndreaS97057
    AndreaS97057 Member Posts: 46
    edited April 2010

    #13 down - just over half way there.  And feeling the woozies too - I'm too a bit too swollen and tender to run, so I went to the gym on Monday.  Thought I might fall off the exercise bike.  It's a bummer to hear that the SE's take a while to go away -- I've put off a couple of work travel trips until just after I finish rads.  The first one starts about 5 days after.  I can't really imagine sitting on an airplane with a sore, burning boob.  May have to figure out how to finagle out of that one.   The doctor certainly made it sound like this would be easy and shouldn't impact my work.  I'm only half way there, and I don't thik that's going to be the case.

    Congratulations on finishing, Mary!  I was sitting waiting for my session this morning and I heard the techs telling the guy before be that he's done, and not to come back!  I was so envious.

  • 3monstmama
    3monstmama Member Posts: 1,447
    edited April 2010

    Hey Team RADS,

    Zap11 over and out. 

    I have an observation on fatigue and redness to share.  This past Monday morning, pre-zapping, despite a 3 day weekend, I noticed some pinkness and my husband could see it too.  It was still there on Tuesday when I saw the ZAPDoctor pre Tuesday Zap.  He said it was to be expected given where I was in the process.

    Well today, Wednesday am, NO PINK. 

    The only difference seems to be the amount of sleep.  Even though I didn't get zapped for 3 days, I did spend 4 days in a cabin in a sleeping bag with interupted sleep--wind, kids, bathroom, whatever.  And Sunday & Monday nights I really only got about 7 3/4-8 hours of sleep.  But last night I conked out with my 10 year old and awoke to a not pink boob.  I think its the sleep* and I'm going to make a point of adding hours to my nightly rest.

    Second on the fatigue.  My Zap time has been in the am though starting tomorrow I'm mid day.  I have not had a fatigue problem mid day or post Zap like some are describing BUT every day when I leave Zapland, I walk to work, about 1/2- 3/4 mile.  I am wondering if that ---exercise right after zapping, getting up heart rate, more oxygen to the blood--is making the difference.

    Don't know but happy Wednesday to all.

    editted to add, I have not worn a bra since Zapping began.  I am wearing plain 100% cotton t-shirts under my other shirts.  Perhaps that makes a difference on pink and soreness as well?

    *************************************************************************************

    *okay maybe one other difference: I ate healthy all weekend but yesterday I pretty much gorged on baked goods from Dahlia Bakery that were brought in for an office meeting plus I doubled up on my dose of dark chocolate. . . . . .

  • AndreaS97057
    AndreaS97057 Member Posts: 46
    edited April 2010

    I'm hoping 3monstmama has found it with the baked goods and dark chocolate.  I'm going to try that one - to heck with this mid-morning carrot snack and off to the pastries.  If nothing else, after all this zapping, I deserve it.

       

  • Sugar77
    Sugar77 Member Posts: 2,138
    edited April 2010

    Maybe if we "think" baked goods will help...they actually WILL help! It's worth a try IMHO.  I've passed my half way point.  Only four more regular treatments before the 5 boots begin a week from today. So far my skin is holding up.  I'm very lavishly slathering on the Glaxol Base cream twice daily and so far, so good.

    Sherri 

  • etk02038
    etk02038 Member Posts: 150
    edited April 2010

    Done with # 12...not too many SE. Feeling somewhat tired in the evening. I get a little dizzy also but my blood pressure was very low yesterday. It's normally low but the nurse said it was very low. Lots of salty chips will help :)

  • Tex17
    Tex17 Member Posts: 11
    edited April 2010

    AndreaS, I have a business trip two days after the final treatment. I'm afraid the plane ride as well as being in training the following day may to more then I should be doing but I have a ticket!

    Treatment #11 today and not tired yet. 

  • MarieK
    MarieK Member Posts: 911
    edited April 2010

    I'm so excited to share with you that I am just 2 zaps away from finishing!!! 

    Yes that's right - today was #26 out of 28!!

    Yesterday they told me that they were not going to do my collar bone and neck anymore just front and back from now on!!!  It went much faster today!

    I'm still quite red and burnt around the collar bone, under my arm and the top of my ribs but it's bearable as long as I keep putting lotion on it!

    The techs warned me today to use the cortisone sparingly - I've only used it a couple of times when the redness/itching was really bad.  So I'll try to perservere with the Lubriderm and the Glaxal Base (got it at Cosco on Tuesday).

    I'm feeling woozy too - like 1 glass of wine too many kind of feeling - it's worse in the late afternoon and just before I go to bed.

    Speaking of which I am going to bed earlier and I'm taking my RX muscle relaxant every night. 

    Hugs to all!

    Marie

  • icey
    icey Member Posts: 141
    edited April 2010

    I finished #12 today. Not tired yet but skin got pink for an hour or so after treatment and then went away. I am still hoping I will be one of those who won't burn but I doubt I will get by so easy. The nurse told me today that most people on blood preasure pills had to stop taking them or have the dose adjusted. My blood preasure is low and now even lower. So radiation must lower blood preasure some how. Any thoughts ladies?

  • 3monstmama
    3monstmama Member Posts: 1,447
    edited April 2010

    Cortisone can definitely make its own set of problems.  My stepdaughter had to use it for extreme exema as a kid when she was still growing and was left with what are basically stretch marks.  My husband's recollection is that it made the skin thinner.  Not sure if growing skin and healing skin are the same but seems like some of the same processes would be involved.

  • CTMOM1234
    CTMOM1234 Member Posts: 633
    edited April 2010

    Looking forward to SLAM DUNK #23 later today! That'll leave just 2 more regular zap treatments and then 5 boosts. Tiredness is still no worse than the "wave of wooziness" that I first started feeling late day and evening after treatment #14.

    Was red rock lobsterish Monday - Wednesday but now that it is Thursday, am settling into the pinkish color that's similar to last week's. THANK YOU to 3monstmoma's earlier posting about getting more sleep. Don't know if it mattered, but I took your advice, got more sleep, and for whatever reason, I am less red.

    I, too, heard mixed things about hydro.cort. and have so far been fortunate to use cold compresses and "nakedness/airing out" to control the really itchy collarbone and between breast area instead.

    Good luck everyone and keep SLAM DUNKING THE HELL OUT OF THIS B$%*@#$^*! 

  • MaryNY
    MaryNY Member Posts: 1,584
    edited April 2010

    Marie: I didn't realize we are on the same schedule. I had #32 out of 33 today, so tomorrow is my last one. It will be kind of strange not to have to rush out of the house each morning for treatment. I was fortunate in that I had minimal skin reaction. My breast did turn pink and the area above and below the fold is darker, but no peeling yet. The nurse did say I might have some flakiness still in the next two weeks. They also warned that the tiredness may get a bit worse for the next week or so before it gets better.

  • Mommaof2
    Mommaof2 Member Posts: 112
    edited April 2010

    'I'm off to my 9th appt. this morning,  I can see that the next few weeks are just going to fly by! 

    Sherri - That is great that you are already half way through!  I'll hit that mark next Friday - I'm already trying to decide where to go out for a nice dinner to celebrate the half way mark!

    Congrats to everyone finishing up this week!

    3Monstmam - you're post crack me up - for some odd reason I always have a craving for something sweet after reading them!

    Have a great day everyone!

  • 3monstmama
    3monstmama Member Posts: 1,447
    edited April 2010

    MaryNY and Marie,

    Hey no need to deprive yourself of the fun of racing out of the house every morning. Feel free to keep it up with the rest of us!

    No treatment yet today---I'm on my new schedule with the lunchtime visit to Zapland.  We will see how my hill climb plan actually works. My office is between 1/2 to 3/4 of a mile from my treatment site and the daily walk is going to be my exercise.

    The goal is to come out of rads having lost weight and launched an exercise routine before entering the Wonderful World of Tamoxifen. I told the ZapDoctor on Tuesday that I was going to walk up to treatment and he said "there's a bus," and I said "but its part of my daily exercise to avoid fatigue" and he repeated "there's a bus."  I am begining to suspect he doesn't think much of my plan. 

    In planning my walking schedule, my theory is that if it has been taking me 12 minutes to walk down from ZapLand then it should be 24 minutes to walk up, right?

    Unless of course, I have been a bit too liberal in my daily applications of theraputic chocolates and baed goods in which case I may have to grab the bus halfway up the hill in order to ward off heart failure. . . .

    By the way, I find that I am pink this morning.  I was a bad bad ZapPatient and stayed up late watching the PBS show on the Buddha.  Wish I had realized last night that the show will repeat Sunday afternoon at a reasonable 1pm.  Oh well, it will be a good test of my theory because there is no reason not to go to bed extra early tonight.

  • AndreaS97057
    AndreaS97057 Member Posts: 46
    edited April 2010

    Interesting discussion with my doctor today.  I've been pretty swollen, and was getting scared about the redness of my skin, thinking that it was the skin burning and I've got more than 2 weeks to go.. sure I do have some pinkness in the radiation square, but the lobster-redness on the bottom side of my breast seems to be due to the fluid buildup.   I've been trying to do without a bra (uncomfortable especially with the swelling), but that's not really the best thing for fluid build up -- it pools at the lowest point -- the bottom side of my boob.  Dr suggested I try to wear a loose bra when I'm at work. 

    So I took it a step further and am working at home, laying on my bed, topless. 

    Unfortunately there are no baked goods in my comfy home office.. so I'll have to leave at some point.    

    So many of you are getting close to finishing this dreadful experience.. that's so exciting because it means that it will end for me some time soon too.  How'd the hillclimb go, 3monst??? 

  • June2268
    June2268 Member Posts: 1,202
    edited April 2010

    Andrea I am now going to read your post and think of the topless lady lying in bed......lol

    Today was #15, so far so good.....no real SE yet but one thing I did notice was that yesterday when I was done and riding home I had this lump in my throat and I thought I was going to lose it and it lasted for 3 hours....same thing today but not as bad as yesterday....odd huh?  This cannot be a SE of the rads could it?

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