March 2010 Chemo Start
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Alison34, I totally understand where you are and how your feeling, ended up asking MD for antidepressant to be able to get through this....started Celexa today, to be able to continue to face this battle. I'm normally a very positive person but not too proud to say when I need help. I keep getting told these are totally normal reactions but know you are NOT alone.
Just found this thread, started my chemo 3/12 AC/T followed by 12wks taxol so two down two to go for the AC which I understand is the harsher out of the two.This passed treatment was more of an emotional battle then physical, Praise God S/E are minimal, slight nausea, dizziness from Emend & decadron. hot flashes at night horrible, only 47 so I'm hoping this will fast forward me through that process??? wishful thinking. K
eeping up with the high fluid intake is difficult but I'm trying also was told claritin D help aches from Neulasta it h does help "achy days only had 1 day of Severe pain from shot 7 days after.I guess worst days are 4 days just after treatment. then you feel better before they slam you again . Better Days coming .....
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Peverson: for several (like 5) days after the chemo, that restlessness and inability to focus is really very difficult. I'm not sure that everyone gets that feeling as intensely, but I know that I get extremely antsy, can't sit still, can't think a clear thought... I think its from the decadron. And then, the bad feeling fades on the 6th day and then, like magic, on the 7th day, all better! and ahhhh, can think and focus again and its soooo good. So, hold on, you'll be better soon!
Alison34: I'm so sorry that you are so upset today. The day the hair falls out is a bad day. For me, knowing that the hair was going to go, didn't lessen the trauma. My eyes kept welling up and yeah, bad day. The ladies who "pre-buzzed" their hair seemed to fair better. You may feel better if you buzz it and get it done. I finally had my husband buzz (what pitiful little bit was left) and the weight was gone and I was able move forward. On the other had, I do agree with jloverwhelm, if you don't start to feel better in a day or so, medication can truly be the helper you need. We all have bad days, we are there with you. Feel better.
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Alison, it's ok to lose it. I think sometimes we are just running on fight or flight -we get the diagnosis, which is always an awful shock, then we "keep it together" while we get caught up in this new world - scans, surgery, strangers touching our bodies, pain, new information, and the whole threat to ourselves and our families. And every once in a while, the medical roller coaster slows a little, and we allow some of our emotion to have it's head.
It is not only ok, it is completely normal. Cry, hug your kids, scream if it helps. And when you're ready, you'll put on your brave coping face and move onto the next day.
Hugs to you and everyone.
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hereandnow: well said.
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Well said hereandnow. I'll take that advice. It's funny how things just seem to fit in to your life when yu start reading the post. But my fix is going to be over in alittle bit. The grand kids are coming to visit. that's a great temperary fix.
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Alison - I lost all my hair last weekend and I think I cried for about three days. It was a very emotional thing for me. I truly admire these women who can just go and get it buzzed or shaved. I cut it very short and have just let it fall out on its own. My husband kept wanting to get the clippers out but I just could not do it. Once it is gone, it will be better or at least it was for me. The falling out part is hard! You will get through it! And it is okay to cry ... you need to grieve ....
Hang in there!
Hugs, Charley
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Alison34, I agree with the others. I'm waiting for my hair to start falling out--today is day 9--and I never had any idea how many emotions are tied into hair. I think a lot of grieving over the entire cancer process goes into that baldness. We get stripped down to the bare essentials, poked, prodded and maybe even our bodies don't feel like our own. Somehow the hair feels tied to that for me. Let yourself grieve.
And remind me I said that when I lose it in a few days
Oh, and my white count is up, even after 24 hours. I went from .07 to 1.0! I still have to get to at least 3 before they stop with the neopogen every day (4.4 is the bottom of their 'normal' range) but it's a lot of progress. I just came out of the cancer closet with my new job today. I'm TA'ing a graduate school design course and had to run the first class. Just told them I'd be bald by next week and to feel free to try their designs out on my head -- in non-toxic ink, of course. And told them not to come near me and my struggling white blood cells!
Hugs to everyone.
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Hair was the hardest. So I tried to take control and had it cut very short (like buzzed). I'm on day 10 after round 2, and still have most of it. Although my forehead is betting bigger as my DD so eloquently puts it. I have had my moments ... right before my MX and my surgeon was wonderful; when I found out I had DCIS, then invasive, then chemo; my first infusion. Let it go. It's okay. We are here for you and totally understand and sympathize cuz we've been there and will be there again.
Welcome to our new ladies. Lurking is encouraged! The only expectation is that you pay your knowledge forward ... share what you learn so others can benefit. For those of you on your first rounds, some get hit on day 3, some on day 6. It really depends on your chemo and your body. Just log it and understand it and then you will be able to manage it the next round. My nurse said if my SEs were the same as round 1, this is what I could expect. But that the Carboplatin would build and I would become more fatigued. Something to look forward to.
Chemo-pause: Chemotheraphy induced menopause. For those of us on the pre-menopausal side of life, chemo typically pushes us into early menopause. Once I'm done with my 6 rounds, I'll stay on Herceptin (her2+++) for a full year, then go on Tamoxifen for 5. Unless my period doesn't come back. In that case, it will be some other estrogen inhibitor. If it does come back, T will send me back into menopause. I know way more than a person should about these things!
Enjoy your weekends!
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thanks for the comforting words ladies
well a new day here in the UK lets see how i handle this one, thanks to all that has replied to me it makes me feel better to know other feel the same
i haven't buzzed the hair because i just cannot bring myself to cut it of, i know it sounds silly if its hurting me that much watching it drop to the floor in clumps but i just cant bring myself to cut it.
in my head i think come on Ali pull it together, the words FORWARD AND TEMPORARY.
its just so hard, i have my wig ready but just feel so fake in the too, is that a normal reaction, i am also dreading my husband seeing me bold, he tells me he don't mind and wont feel any different but i know this is going to effect our relationship on my part, wonder how i am also going to deal with that
sorry ladies for venting i am just so unhappy with the situation i am in my 30is and having to deal with all the crap that no one should ever have to go through,
my normal life used to be worrying about what i was going to wear on a day , how much that has changed hey.
happy easter everyone xxxxxxx
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infection gone...blister healing....maybe walking tomorrow.....still feeling pretty good.....remember my two favorite words...FORWARD and TEMPORARY....we will get through this.
Happy Easter to all!!!!!!!!
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dublin4
thankyou for putting them words into my head these are the words that give me the strength to get through this xxxx
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Alison....Just keep putting one foot in front of the other even if they are really really small steps and when you think you can't remember keep moving FORWARD and whatever is going on SE's or emotional melt downs it is TEMPORARY and part of the journey to recovery, renewal and healing.
Blessings!
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Yes losing my hair was horrible, no matter what they say nothing can prepare you for the day you end up with handful in the shower. I cried for about the first three hours then called my daughter in law (hairdresser) and made appt for the next day to buzz it all off eaiser then the daily loss. I couldn't bring myself to buzz it before it started to fall out but now that it's over just one more step in the process. Also helped my husband decided he would go bald with me so he shaved his 2 wks before mine started to fall out. I have to say he has been wonderful and very supportive, my son also shaved his head contemplating an easter Bald family photo so we can laugh about it later.... we'll see. Thanks to everyone for being so honest it really does help.
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Hello Ladies, I have been reading the posts the past few days but the past week my energy was so low that I couldnt bring myself to even post anything. However, reading all posts was giving me strength.
Allison, I completely understand your trauma over hair loss. Last week end in addition to being hit by SEs, I was grieving over my hair. I had beautiful glossy shoulder length hair which I had cut short before chemo. I had thought losing short hair will be less painful, well it was painful! I cried on and off for about 3 days. Then I couldnt take the process of losing hair anymore so I asked my husband to buzz it off and I actually felt better after that. Like many ladies here, I hate my wig. I wear it only for few mins at a time and only when I think it is absolutely needed.
EZH What you described is exactly what I feel from day 3 to day 9. Then the fog lifts. However the clearing of my mind was more pronounced after my round #1. This time my head still feels a little heavy and I have a lingering headache. I am waiting to feel totally alert.
Other than the extreme fatigue and fogginess, I now have few mouth sores. I also think I might have UTI (urinary tract infection)
. My nurse told me to gargle with saline water for the mouth sores. I am also using Biotene mouthwash. I have to yet ask about my UTI. Anyone having any similar symtoms? Any tips would be welcome.
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Oh what a few days I have had.........I developed cellulitis on my right shin. Bright red, swollen, oozing fluid, itchy, and just plain nasty. I also have developed a tongue ulcer. It was so bad I had an earache from it. I am now on antibiotics, a diuretic, and am quite teary.......
I need to take a ride on my Harley....I need to clear my head.....
Today is sunny and warm....gonna go get my boots and jeans on to take the bike for a short spin....I always feel better after a ride......
Peace to all....I am so grateful for all your posts...makes me not feel so alone.
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Good morning to everyone from the west coast. I read your words with coffee every morning and feel like we're all together, sharing our joys and woes. Thank you all for being there; we are not alone.
I'm one who buzzed the hair a week before chemo started - had a ceremony with champagne and closest people in a wax room (for privacy) at my salon. It really did help; the chemo then became about the chemo, not about the hair. It was hard to do but we made it fun, played with scarves and hats, went to brunch afterwards.
I am 3 days out of my 2nd AC treatment, and have lost all but a few tiny patches now. It started to hurt when it was ready to fall out, so I used advice I found here: the lint roller! I used a sticky tape one, and pulled off the sheets, and stuck them to my head! Worked like a charm! Kind of like waxing without the wax. Once the hair was gone there was no more pain.
What I don't like is the weird weight gain I'm having. I'm starting to look like Buddha... bald head, no breasts, big belly. Maybe rubbing the belly will bring me luck......
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Hi all, haven't posted for nearly a week, feeling good almost back to normal after tx #2.
Been busy at work, a project just ended and a lot of bills have been coming in to verify (I work in accounts payable). So I'm putting in some extra hours to build up flex credit for when I need it after tx #3. Plus it's been beautiful here the past week and I've been enjoying it while it lasted. It's sunny but chilly today.
For dry hands, I recommend plain Vaseline, I have Walgreen's store brand. I get a dime-sized glob and dab that on the backs of my hands especially the knuckles, then gently rub backs of hands together. I do this a couple three times a week in the evening, optimally an hour before bed to let it soak in overnight. Make sure you get your fingernails and cuticles good, too. Also, I use Playtex Handsaver gloves to wash the dishes.
So yesterday, I drove a 15-passenger van to work. I'm in a van pool and am a back-up driver for when the main driver needs the day off, such as yesterday.
Now, these people have not seen me for a couple of months because of surgery and chemo. I've been driving myself and/or telecommuting since the end of Jan. But am healed enough to handle the van (good thing, too, it was real windy and we drove home in a rain storm) and I'm at a place in tx's where I felt well enough to drive other people approx 100 mi RT.
The last time they saw me, I had a long gray braid. Yesterday I had the punk grandma look with half-inch spikes of thinning white hair. I got into the driver's seat and said good morning to six or seven people. You cut your hair, someone said. Yes I did, I replied. And said no more... 'nuf said I thought, started the van and away we went.
I am going to work without camouflage. No wig, no hat, no scarf, no make-up, no-thing. If I go bald, so be it, this too shall pass, right? Nothing but compassion from all at work though I did have to ask one woman not to look at me like I'd just hit her puppy with my car! And I find strangers feel more free to chat me up, maybe now I look less threatening or more like their mothers & grandmothers lol?
Hope this finds you feeling good with few SE's and able to enjoy the weekend! {{hugs}}
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Groundhog - You rock! I wish I had the guts to go to work without my wig! But unfortunately I work for a small lawfirm (very conservative), with conservative clients and I have to interview prospective employees (don't want to scare them away!) I have resigned to wearing my wigs. But I have vowed to change it up whenever I feel like it! You will be my inspiration ...
Hugs, Charley
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Sandie, I too read the posts in the morning with brekkie. I giggled at the imagery of you rubbing your tummy and smiling, and all the good luck it's going to bring you, I think you may have started a trend. It's day 16 today, and my short crop is still there, although the lower lattitudes are starting to drop.
I got my period yesterday - the breast nurse had suggested that I would not and that it probably wouldn't come back, so I am both relieved, and a little uncertain of its significance - oh well early days, we shall see.
JLLG, I hope your leg heals up quickly, and I hope you had a great ride on your bike. Everyone's got their place to escape hey?
Groundhog and you other women who are working, I salute you. I am able to take some time off, and so I have, although I'm feeling so well that I am sure I'll do some study/work after the next round in the ring. It'll be good to go back to doing some more of my normal life things, and re-inforce that this is temporary.
Enjoy the day,
Lisa
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good for you, groundhog!
I got my hair cut really short (it was fairly long, thick, brown, wavy) a couple weeks ago but now every time I look in the mirror I imagine whats going to happen when it starts falling out. I will either have my friend at the barn shave it with horse clippers or have one of my fellow employees (another vet) do it at work with the clippers. Or maybe I'll be freaked out and do it myself at home. (with the horse clippers, haha)
Have any other coffee fanatics completely lost desire for coffee???? I have and it seems so bizarre to me. Soda either. (I used to drink a lot of Coke Zero too.) Now things taste so funny to me the only thing I really can drink are orange juice, cran-grape, or drink mixes that go in water. I love(d) Propel and tried to drink one last night and it tasted vile.
One thing I'm really worried about when I lose my hair is how clients at work who haven't met me yet (I just started this job 2 months ago) are going to react. I don't want people to think that I am "sick" and not up to the work. I'm sure I'm just being silly. I guess if I act normal people will treat me that way.
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Horsedoc, I am a complete coffee lover. I have a machine in my kitchen and make a strong latte every morning before work. I couldn't drink a drop for the first 10 days - didn't want it at all, same with alcohol. Now I'm back to my morning coffee, yum, and I had one small glass of wine when I went out to dinner with the family a couple of nights ago, but there's no real wish for that at all.
I am drinking more tea than coffee these days.
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thanks, yes I was wondering if my desire for the coffee would just eventually return. It's such a bad habit though maybe I should hope it doesn't!
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Greetings March 2010 from March 2005!
I stopped by to see what has changed. Some things seem different but not much. I was stage 2a. I was going to do 6 TAC but the onc said I was not handling it well and only gave me 4 treatments. I was pretty sick the whole time and was not able to work. But I got through it. I got through rads and then went on AIs. Again, it didn't go so well for me. I stuck it out as long as I could but stopped all treatment about a year ago.
And I'm still doing good. I don't think about cancer very often at all anymore. You all sound pretty upbeat and postitive. It was darn hard for me and here 5 years later I am doing good. One day you will look back on this and say "whew, I"m glad that is over!" Take care.
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Hello Susanmcm, so kind and thoughtful of you to return after 5 years with such positive encouragement. I'm so glad Y O U can say "whew, I'm glad that is over!" Wishing you continued good health and best wishes. Julia
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susanmcm,
Thank you...that is what I need to hear. That you get to a day or point where you don't think about cancer 24/7. THANK YOU!
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Wishing EVERYONE a Blessed Easter! Please try and enjoy this day. God Bless!
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LillyC... Thank you! I hope your Easter was a blessed one. I wasn't feeling well yesterday and was thinking that I wouldn't be able to go to church this morning, but today is a much better day and I was able to go. The weather was warm and sunny. Such a beautiful Easter. Thank you for your prayers for us all.
JLLG... I think just as soon as I see the hair begin to fall out, I will have my daughter shave my head. Some control is better than "none" and it will be somewhat my own choice as to when it goes. I just hope my chin hairs fall out as well!! LOL
Group Hug ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((HUG)))))))))))))))))))))))) Sleep well and wake refreshed! Each day is a gift.
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Hi everyone,
I hope you all had a great Easter:) Unfortunately, the SE's kicked my tush today and I had to stay home and rest and not go to my in-laws with the family. I was bummed, but relished in the extra cuddle time I had with my girls before they left this morning. They had a rough time seeing me sick yesterday, so this morning I tried to make up for it with heart to heart talks in our jammies--they seem much better today!! Although it is hard for me to go through this, it feels unbearable at times to see my husband and kids going through it with me. How do you all deal with this? Any tips?
I am a bit all over the place so sorry if this does not fit in with the above, but I wanted to throw in something that has helped me with the darn ole metal mouth. Perhaps, someone has already mentioned it, but Big Red gum has helped me out tons today! I chew it for about 5-10 minutes and it has helped me with the bad taste and the nausea--However, I might not suggest it if you have mouth sores as it is spicey. I also have done really well with plain bagels and baked potatoes when I am struggling with the nausea. Just some thoughts, hope they help others.
May you all be having a side effect free Easter and weekend!!!
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I'm sorry you felt so bad today SGJ05. I think the worst part of SE's is when they affect your plans and normal activities. I'm sorry your girls are having a hard time. I'm sure your talk helped them a lot. I'm sorry I don't have any words of wisdom; I'm single with no kids.
Thanks for the gum advice; I was wondering if gum might help. I will try it.
Thanks for stopping by and being supportive, susanmcm! I'm glad you are doing well!
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SGJ05 I feel exactly the same way about my girls and hubby having to watch me go through this. I am on day four after my first round of chemo. Thus far the only SE's I have had are nausea and dizziness, and exhaustion of course. I feel relatively normal today but stuck in neutral...can't move forward, can't go back. I would do anything to spare my family from having to go through this with me, it will forever change them. I am going to try to show them how to face adversity with grace and dignity. Just wondering how everyone else is doing and at what day SEs showed up, I am feeling really lucky but keep waiting for the other shoe to drop. Sorry this post is all over the place, my mind seems to be all over the place
. I hope everyone had a blessed Easter. Angi
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