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peverson
peverson Member Posts: 55
edited June 2014 in Stage III Breast Cancer

Had my first AC two days ago, and I can't imagine how I'm going to do this. I feel restless, disoriented, unable to concentrate or be up for more than a few minutes. Thanksfully, no nausea or vomiting. Does it always feel liket his the whole time? Help.

 Patsy

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  • lovinmomma
    lovinmomma Member Posts: 1,879
    edited April 2010

    I was like that for my first 2 to 4 days and then it got much better. It can be a crazy ride.

  • peverson
    peverson Member Posts: 55
    edited April 2010

    What medicne helped you?

  • momand2kids
    momand2kids Member Posts: 1,508
    edited April 2010

    Hi

    it will get better.  I had 4 rounds of AC-treated on Friday, felt ok on Sat/Sun, and really not great on Monday and Tuesday-back to work on Wed.  I think the first one is the hardest-- I had them up my anti-nausea meds after the first one-- I took the compazine and Ifound that when they added ativan to my chemo, I felt better... still a little nauseous-but it does lift.  I always felt great about 5 days after the treatment.  I think the steroids make you restless-- I remember cleaning my bookcase and closet--- but that passes as well..... by the time I got my groove going, chemo was over (I did it over 8 weeks).  

     You will start to feel more like yourself very soon...

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited April 2010

    AC was tough, no doubt and the worst were days 2-4 - like the flu, but worse.  There wasn't much I could do, but to listen to my body and rest.  I can say that hydration is very important and does help flush your system and help you to feel a little better.  I also found that no matter how bad I felt that by taking a walk if only around the block I felt better.  Some days I only made it to the corner, but it did help.  In the beginning I found it difficult to rest because I am a a person that likes to handle eveything myself and do something when I want it done.  However, I learned to let others help and just had to learn to rest.......... 

    (((Hugs))) I know it seems terrible and like you'll never get through this, but you will.  And....will notice a pattern and be able to make plans around the good and bad days and good and bad times of the day.  It will get better.

  • kimber3006
    kimber3006 Member Posts: 586
    edited April 2010

    For me, the first week of AC was rough, but the second week I felt much better.  Also, my first treatment was the worst one.  Hang in there!  Taxol has been so much easier.

  • maryannecb
    maryannecb Member Posts: 1,453
    edited April 2010

    Hi Patsy , welcome to the Stage 3 board. Yes you will get thru this. My first round was kind of a learning round...let your team know the SE you are having they may be ale to help. I stayed on decadron a little longer ....seemed to help me.

    There is a thread with March-2010 chemo starters on it...you will enjoy that as that group of women is all going thru chemo right now with you. here is the link.

    http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/69/topic/747843

    I still corresond with som of my chemo group from October 2005.

    You can do this.

    I s

  • msmpatty
    msmpatty Member Posts: 818
    edited April 2010

    Patsy - Be sure to talk to your Onc and/or the chemo nurses about your problems....the nurses in particular always had a wealth of suggestions for me.   I had similar symptoms after my first AC and my Onc suggested Ativan.  It is an anti-anxiety drug that might help with the restlessness, it also helped me sleep at night.   I think the first TX is hard because you don't really know what to expect.  They get more predictable as you go along.   Good luck and take care of yourself!

    Patty

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited April 2010

    Yes, the whole restless, disorientated thing is exactly how I felt, like a ADHD kid who really needed medication, like I could just crawl right out of my skin......worst the first three days, and then more managable until the next round. Like Jenn says, if you can keep moving, it helps a little. Hang in there, you'll get through it, and then it will just be a really creepy memory!!!!! Ruth

  • peverson
    peverson Member Posts: 55
    edited April 2010

    Can't link to the March start-up group at http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/69/topic/747843. Am I missing somethig?

    Thanks, everybody, for your wonderful encouragement. It means the world to me right now.

    Patsy

  • riley702
    riley702 Member Posts: 1,600
    edited April 2010

    ruthbru, I'm not on AC, but have had those same SE of feeling like a hyperactive kid that couldn't hold still. I'd lay down in bed and find myself popping back up 5 minutes later to go... where? I had no clue, but I couldn't hold still. I'd tell myself to "Lay down and stay down!", but the minute I quit saying it, I'd find myself popping right back up again.

    Is there anything else that might be causing this? It's not all the time. I'm on Avastin, Taxotere, Xeloda, Decadron, Zofran, Compazine, Restoril, and Prilosec. I haven't had it since I started Lexapro a few weeks ago and got my Restoril dose upped. Do any of these cause those SE? Because it seriously makes me nuts and I'd love to have a head's up about what caused it.

  • diana50
    diana50 Member Posts: 2,134
    edited April 2010

    Patsy

    something that really helped me during chemo was to keep track a DAILY log of symptoms and feelings.  all the way through. doesn't have to be elaborate...just jot down physical and emotional symptoms.  i found during the cycles that the days were pretty predictable ......when i kept track...i knew which days were going to be hard days...and which days were going to be better so i could plan outings...etc.  also, i knew when i HAD to rest.  i rested every day during chemo; had a schedule..up at same time every day...shots...rest at 1 pm ....sometimes just to ponder...pray...cry...whatever...the time between 1-3 pm was MY time to deal with this disease. i still have my calendar....i look at it now and wonder how i did it but i did. you will too. always talk with nurses...let them know symptoms...etc. there are good meds for stuff.

    hugs

    diana

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited April 2010
    Yes,the nurses are great. Riley, I would call and talk to them, 'cause I imagine any one of those drugs alone or in combination could be doing weird things to you. Everyone has to find what works for them to get through this emotionally. I know several people who found journaling helpful, but I couldn't have kept a journal because it would have contained nothing but profanity Surprised, and I just had to focus on 'one day at a time', and consciously did not let myself try to process the whole experience until after it was over. Keep hanging in there! Ruth
  • sandiek9
    sandiek9 Member Posts: 54
    edited April 2010

    My first round of AC was awful for 3 days due to the steroid buzz. I didn't sleep for three nights. Everything else was under control, but the lack of sleep was unbearable.

    I am happy to report that I had round 2 of AC yesterday and found I could overpower the effect with Ambien. I went to bed early, watched a movie and popped an Ambien at midnight and slept through the night (with bathroom trips, of course) until 6 am. Don't know if this works for everyone, but it's worth a try! 

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited April 2010

    Good suggestion, I LOVED Ambien!!! If you can sleep, it helps you to be able to deal with it all so much better.

  • clariceak
    clariceak Member Posts: 752
    edited April 2010

    Patsy - my first round of AC was the worst.  Then you'll probably settle into a routine where the first 3 -4 days are "lost days" and then you gradually start to feel like yourself.   I really hated the steroids and couldn't wait to be off them.  I found they wreaked havoc with me emotionally.

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited April 2010

    Patsy - I wanted to check in to see how you were feeling today and send thoughts and hugs your way............

  • riley702
    riley702 Member Posts: 1,600
    edited April 2010
    Thanks for the advice, ruthbru. I can't journal on steroid days because it wreaks havoc with my fine motor skills. Even a grocery list looks like gibberish, and typing is all screwed up, too. By the time I can write, it's lost its urgency. I find posting here fulfills some of that need to document what I'm going through. Unpopular opinions (?) ahead - I've grown to loathe the words 'journey' and 'path'; and I absolutely hate pink! Magenta, dusty rose, etc. are OK, but not hot pink or pastel pink. But that's just me. Wink
  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited April 2010

    I agree....the only way I can stand all the pink stuff is because I know it does raise awareness, which then raises money for research etc. I like the "Cancer Sucks" and "F*ck Cancer" apparel better........

  • riley702
    riley702 Member Posts: 1,600
    edited April 2010

    "Save the Ta-Tas"! I love that.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited April 2010

    One lady who had a MX and reconstruction had a tee shirt that said, "OF COURSE THEY'RE FAKE, THE LAST ONES TRIED TO KILL ME!"

  • riley702
    riley702 Member Posts: 1,600
    edited April 2010

    OMG, I love it!

  • lorrhaw
    lorrhaw Member Posts: 751
    edited April 2010

    Patsy - I did my first chemo on March 22nd and bounced back pretty quickly after the first few days.  I totally stayed on top of the anti-nausea meds (compazine in my case) and took them faithfully every 6 hours for the first 3 days and other than being a tad queasy did pretty well.  There is a very good thread somewhere on the forum that gives tons of good advice on helping to offset any potential side effects.  I think the most important tips I picked up were staying on top of the meds and driking TONS of water.

    Good-luck and you will get through this.

  • AnnNYC
    AnnNYC Member Posts: 4,484
    edited April 2010

    Patsy, you said "Can't link to the March start-up group at http..... Am I missing something?"

    It's not you, it's the Board software!  For some reason, it's very touchy about linking to another discussion page...  When I insert links to another BCO page, I usually have to insert it twice to get it to work...  weird...

    I'll try to make the March group "clickable" in this comment, but you can always "copy" the link and "paste" it into your browser address window...  but actually, even THAT didn't work for me!

    I think the word "forum" was missing from the earlier posted link -- but it looks like you found the March group anyway!

    http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/69/topic/747843

    Hugs,

    Ann

  • pickle
    pickle Member Posts: 1,409
    edited April 2010

    Patsy:

    I started AC last year March 31st. I finished in June.

    The first 2-3 days after each chemo was a steroid buzz. Didn't sleep much. Days 4,5,6 were the worse for me for energy. That's when I really hit the wall. I learned after round one to really listen to my body and rest lots on my low days. Patience with yourself is key because it is so easy to get frustrated with yourself for being exhausted. I started to really rebound after day 6 and then improved daily. I didn't get sick but had some nausea. Take whatever anti nausea meds they give you. I rinsed my mouth several times a day with club soda (that's what my chemo nurse told me to do) and I never got any mouth sores. Drink lots of water the day before and the day of your chemo. It really helps to stay hydrated. After round two my taste buds were off so I started adding lemon slices to my water and eating bland food like mashed potatoes, toast and for some reason I liked greasy kentucky fried chicken or a dry hamburger. All in all I would say that it was much better than I thought it was going to be.

    I took ativan an hour before each chemo and I also took it at night to help me sleep.

    Good Luck.

    Hugs

    Beth P

  • blondie45
    blondie45 Member Posts: 580
    edited April 2010

    I also felt terrible from days 2 through about 5 or 6 after the AC, then better for a little over a week, then back for another AC and the cycle over again, but if I made it through you can make it through also. I would always tell myself 1 more day of feeling crappy or 2 more days and I got through it.

  • pupfoster1
    pupfoster1 Member Posts: 1,484
    edited April 2010

    Hi Patsy,

    A/C was definitely the hardest part for me so far.  I had to have them back off on some of the steroids because I felt like I was jumping out of my skin at times.  And I had terrible insomnia for several days each cycle.  But as most of the other ladies have already told you, it is only temporary.  I had about 4 really bad days, then started coming out the other end.  So hopefully you will be starting to feel better in the next day or so.  If not, call your doc.

    Take care,

    Sharon

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