December 2009 Rads Group
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Veggy, just a couple to go....Hope you heal fast..You deserve a break for sure.....I can't believe that it had been 2 months since I finished rads...my breast still hurts, tender and sore at scar areas, but as long as my mammo is good, coming up next month, I can live with this other such stuff....Hurry to the finish line......jewly
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Thanks! The boosts are causing blisters and the blisters are breaking open. But only 4 more boosts to go. The center I go to doesn't do anything special when you finish. They just say good bye. The play Braum's Lullaby every time a baby is born. I suggested they play "Celebration" when someone finishes Radiation. They liked that idea.
Thursday I have to get An ultra sound and an MRI on my liver to make sure the hemangioma is a hemangioma and not something more severe. I'm just tired of all these tests. Next month is surgery on the thyroid.
I will survive and celebrate!
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Veggy - Woo Hoo only 4 more to go!!! I'm so very excited for you! It seems like only yesterday that you had to quit and go through all that packing your wounds and now you will be through soon. :=)
Jewly - I'm sorry that you are still having breast tenderness and soreness. Mine is long gone!!! I see the plastic surgeon on March 31st. I'm really hoping for some great news about reconstruction. I will be through with rads 2 months on April 4th. I agree Jewly it's hard to believe it's been 2 months already!!!
Jules - hope you feel better soon!!!
I had a blast at the race in Bristol over the weekend and was super excited that our driver Dale, Jr. came in 7th and moved up to 8th in points for the chase. I know if you're not a race fan you don't understand... sorry!!!
Renee
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Veggy, I'm sorry that your skin is giving your trouble. Many congratulations on being so close to the end of your rads treatments, though. Soon they will be just a memory. Best wishes for your liver MRI and your surgery.
Jewly, I'm sorry to hear that you are still having pains from rads. I hope they clear up soon.
Renee, how exciting about your race. I'm glad you had a good time, and that your pains are all gone.
Me: I'm feeling great. I've been done with rads 6 weeks, and I can hardly tell that I ever had them. I'm doing stretches every day to prevent potential problems from scar tissue.
I had my 6-week checkup with my rad onc yesterday, and she said she was surprised at how good my skin looks. It is only *very* slightly darker than the skin on the other side (I can hardly see it), and because of my fair skin she had expected more difference. I won't need any more follow-up appointments for 6 months.
I'm still having an easy time with Tamoxifen. Life is good.
adrienne
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Hi Renee (Mimi1964) hope you had a great time in Bristol, did you eat some bisquits and gravy for me??.......
Veggy wishing you the best with your up coming scans....Are you done with rads?
Adrienne, I think that my pain is still from my surgery, although I look like I am healed, this is what I still feel at surgery site.... Left lumpectomy breast at sentinal node scar...appears well healed, but I swear it feels like I have a sandspur under my skin that is irritated by every move, no swelling....There is a very hard almond size area that is very tender there and aches at times...It seems that this area makes my whole underarm and lumpectomy area plus my arm seem so sore at times..My scars have healed but with one little touch hurt and my breast has a very hard muscle like area....I have talked to both my surgeon who pushed on these areas so hard that they ached for weeks afterward, he seemed to think that I have not had enough healing time (surgery was end Oct 09) and not worried about it, he said I have a small seroma at lumpectomy area that is of no concern also...My onco doc said that the almond shape hardness at sentinal scar was a fibrous band and also nothing to worry about....I hate to complain because this is irritating but no where near what some have been through.....
I just wonder if any of you felt anything like a cutting/sandspur like irratation at sentinal node removal area......also how long did it take your lumpectomy/sentinal node area to heal after surgery....
I have a mammo/us early next month, has anyone had there 6 month mammo yet?.....I appreciate any input.....thank you
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My surgery was December 1st. Except for the huge seroma, I healed okay. During radiation last week it felt like someone was slashing my underarm with a blade. The nurses said it was because the skin was breaking down. Now since I am doing the boosts, the under arm area and under the breast are no longer sore. I have full motion. The boosts on the scar had blistered and now is peeling off. That is a little painful. I am putting the burn cream on it.
I have two more boosts to go and I am all done!!!! Today I had an ultra sound on the liver. Maybe by Monday I'll have the results. I'll bug them tomorrow for any results.
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Veggy: I'm so glad you're almost done!
Jewly: I have no pain and no almonds at the SLNB site. Sometimes my right arms gets a little puffy, and I figure it's from the lack of lymph nodes. On the breast, I occasionally have some pain at one end of the incision. This hurt quite a bit right from the start. There is some lingering puffiness from the radiation. I hope that stays because it makes the two breasts the same size!
Radiation Oncology will not do any followups, and I can't get the oncologist to make an appt with me either. I'm on my own!
Bonnie
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Bonnie, that's crazy that you can't get onco appt....My surgeon imformed my on my last visit that he will be in my life at least for the next 3 years doing all of my mammos..I have my 6 mo follow-up on left breast only April 9....and I was informed by my Onco doc that I will have bloodwork and appt. about every 6 months...
I made an appt with a GYN thinking that I needed a female doc in the mix of this and thinking she would be able to stay on top of any changes in my breast...Well after waiting 45 minutes just to get in the examining room and then another 40 minutes waiting with in an ill-fitting humiliating gown...I had had enough and decided to get dressed and leave, of course that is when the doc finally comes in...To my amazement, in walks in the youngest looking doctor in her little work blues and so damn nice..She was a little set back when she saw that I was going to leave....But, I had had it and was in no mood to ask her questions that I had prepared for the visit......She apologized for taking so long and said she understood completely and had spent way to much time with an elderly patient listening about the woman's personal problems....I told her that to her benefit, that most docs don't stay and listen but that I was just not in the mood to stay....She coerced me to ask her some of my concerns which I had wanted her view on breast cancer being that her office was where somanywomen had found themselves after a shocking mammo dazed and confused....She was so honest with me and said that those patients were referred to a surgeon for about 3 years until they are released back to her that she was an OBGYN and would not have the knowledge of bc...So I asked, well who do we go to if we want a breast specialist to our lives (my surgeon being a general surgeon and my onco being a general onco)....She said that would only be a "Breast Cancer Surgeon" and there are none in our area and that her mother-in-law goes to a great female breast surgeon in a larger city about an hour away....
We discussed many things including diet and she told me that she only wished that most of her patients would take it upon themselves to change thier diets as I had done and we talked about the many environmental concerns that may be causing more health problems....She spent about 30 minutes with me while I continued to dress and was standing by the door....I thanked her for her honesty and time....When I went to the counter to check out an pay, I was told that thier would be no charge.....I left feeling that I truly wished that I could find a bc doctor with her character.....
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somanywomen - She sounds like a great doctor! How awesome! I love my OBGYN... he has been my doc for 22 yrs. I definitely love, love him. I don't know what I'll do it he ever retires. Problem is my insurance doesn't want to pay for my check ups anymore cause I'm to young, but I've already been through menopause and total hysterectomy (they are so stupid). Anyway, I will nee to schedule and apt to see him in Oct.
Bonnie as for my Breast Surgeon, he told me I would see him for the next 10 yrs. My Medical Onco I guess at least for the next 5 while I'm taking the Tamoxifen and who knows about the Rad Onco. I know I have a follow up with him in May. I know I don't like him so I told the breast surgeon I wanted him to keep ordering my Mammo's and do them in B'ham where I usually get them done.
I am wondering if any of you ladies have had problems getting your insurance companies to pay for the follow up mammo's every 3 or 6 months? I have had some problems getting my insurance companies to pay for the ones I had done back in October of last year for follow ups to my original yearly one for clarification.
Renee
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YEAH ME!!!!!
I finished rads today!
It feels great! I made lollipops (white chocolate) for the chemo department and the rad department. The nurses have been so sweet. I am going to miss them. I'll see them in a month for a checkup to see how the skin is healing.
The rads doctor wants me to go for an open MRI to check up on a spot on the liver. The cat scan and ultra sound showed the same questionable spot with no definate answer. I guess they want to make sure if it is cancer or not before I get the port taken out in two weeks. I'm not going to worry about it until Friday when I get the results back.
Yeah! Rads are over!!!!
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Yay, yay, yay. I am so happy for you, Veggy. It was a long, hard haul for you, but you made it. Congratulations! Remember to be extra careful with your skin for the next 2 weeks, and you'll be fine.
Bonnie, I'm sorry that you aren't able to get follow-ups from your doctors. That just isn't right.
adrienne
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I'm going to use the aquaphor onthe dry patches under my arm and breast and the silvidine (spelling?) on the bright red burnt patches. I still can't believe I am done. YEAH ME!
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Hooray Veggy! Congratulations on finishing radiation! Hope your healing goes FAST!
About my lack of followup: I DID see the surgeon and have another appt in six months. I do not yet have a mammogram scheduled. I thought the medical oncologist was in charge of my case, but he is AWOL. My theory about both oncologists is that they originally recommended mastectomy, basically because the mammogram did not show the full extent of cancer that the pathology reports showed. So maybe they think "Why Bother?" to followup with me because they wouldn't be able to detect a recurrence anyway. At the end of April I will start asking the oncologist what's up.
My only real problem is with tamoxifen. I have joint and muscle pain! Pretty bad sometimes. I am giving this until June 1 and if I'm still in so much pain then, I'm going to consider going off tamoxifen.
Oh yes, and WEIGHT GAIN!
Bonnie
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Good going veggy, I think you are in last place in this group...so glad that's out of the way, now on to good MRI results on Friday....I have my 6mo mammo/us on April 9, I guess we just have to try to stay as positive as we can and hope for good results...I made an appt with a female Breast Cancer Surgeon since my GYN said that she does not follow my mammos and my surgeon and onco are men and general not specializing in Breast, I am hoping I can ask her all the questions that my other docs just seem to brush off...
Bonnie, I have been on Arimidex about 2 1/2 months and no noticible se's...I take citracal and bone supplements since it suppose to do a number on our bones....
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yeah Veggy for finishing up rads!!!! hope that MRI doesn't show anything on the liver... keeping my fingers crossed for you and saying prayers too!
Bonnie I don't have bone pain with the Tamox but my knees sure do creak and crack a lot!!!! LOL!!! I hope it doesn't it worse over the next few years.
Everyone keep your fingers crossed for me I see the plastic surgeon tomorrow about some recon.
Renee
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Congrats Veggy! Wasn't Veggy the last of our group to finish rads? If so, this calls for a huge group hug!
I went for an annual eye exam and saw a new eye doctor who was full of information about tamoxifen... I had told him I refused tamox tx, and instead of the expected shocked look, I got a nod of understanding. He said he has seen some serious SE's regarding vision due to this drug. (Which was NOT among the SE's I had been told about - irreversible damage to the eyes that is reported as tying to see the world though a puddle.) He also told me they are releasing more and more data that reveals the benefits are far less than originally reported - and that the five year protocol is too short to make any impact, and that most women have to take the drug for at least 10 years in order to see any advantage. Which of course that increases the risks and SE's....
Has anyone else heard this?
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Thanks everyone for the hugs and words of encouragement. I probably am the last one to finish since I had to start twice. Today the area from the boosts is raw and hurting. I am using the creams they gave me. I guess I have to be patient and let it heal.
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Runswith
Yes i have and that is why i will refuse it. After i finish rads I will go back in to my onco and let her know what I have learned and see what she has to say and what alternatives she has to offer, however I will research the alternative before I will be willing to take it. Also the loss of short term memory and of course other cancers.
I have found going into webMD has been an excellent source to learn about a drug. There is a place to click on that says people who shouldn't take the drug and also reviews from people who are on the drug. So you hear about real se's people are having. With Tomoxifen, under who shouldn't the very first word is cataracts which I have.
Flo
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Runswithscissors,,,,,isn't it amazing just how little docs tell you about any se's to meds and or proceedures...I think they just cross thier fingers and hope that they never have to explain the se's and if they do, I think they try to put blame for se's on something that the other doctors and or proceedures caused, and certainly not by them!!!!
I have a hard irritating almond size lump under my sentinal node removal scar....My rad doc said it was a hematoma, my onco doc said it is a fibrous band caused by surgery, my surgeon thinks it's nothing to worry about and needs more healing time so I still don't have a clue..So I have made an appt with a Breast Cancer Surgeon and will see what guess #4 will be.......
Renee, how did you do with recon doc?
Veggy, hope you heal soon......
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somanywomen- I was in your neck of the woods last week, visiting my folks. You are all such lucky ducks with that wonderful weather this time of year. I came back with some color on my skin.
Best wishes with the lump. How frustrating!
Flo, thanks for the heads up about WebMD. I don't think I've spent much time on that one. I'll have to check it out.
Sending more healing thoughts to Veggy....
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somanywomen and everyone else - My appt. with the plastic surgeon went pretty good. I can't have recon surgery till I'm 6 months out from rads. He told me he recommends that I have a breast lift and a reduction on my healthy breast to match the size of my radiated right breast. He told me the reason he wants to wait the 6 months is because he will cut the skin on my right breast and do a lift on it and move the areola without going into the breast tissue. He said that if you start going into the breast tissue it causes problems, like healing, etc. So... I guess I will end up being about B cup. Not quite what I was hoping for :=( since that's what I was back in my high school days, but I will be even. I was hoping he would be one of the GREAT docs that would be willing to do implants and I could be a C cup, but that's not my life. I'll take what I can get and be happy with it as long as I'm not lopsided.
Renee
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Yesterday I quit taking Tamoxifen. I have gained 6 lbs in one month and the PAIN. Very bad. In two days the difference is remarkable. I feel a lot better. My body is confused, but we'll get over that!
My plan is to follow the advice in the Anticancer book, keep my weight down, exercise, eat lots of vegetables, learn meditation (taking a class now), and fight cancer that way.
It's so frustrating that the doctors refuse to discuss this stuff. Is it because they just don't keep up? We are all very motivated to research and read, but maybe they are not.
I will check out WebMD - Thanks granma and somany, I am glad to read what you reported about tamoxifen. I'm afraid to tell people I quit because it seems crazy, but not really when you read reports about eye damage and the rest.
Renee, glad you aren't having the problems I'm having.
Bonnie
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Rene, good news about the plastic surgery. So you'll have two surgeries, one on each breast. In six months I can see the plastic surgeon and will probably have the nipple moved. Also by then, if the size difference is significant, I will consider getting a lift on the healthy side. Right now the two are the same size because the radiated breast got puffy. Hope it stays that way, but the surgeon thinks it won't.
When are people getting followup mammograms? Is it six months after radiation? six months after surgery?
Bonnie
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Renee.....are you sure you want to go through more surgery for boobies.....I am still in pain from lump and I think that if you are doing good with your healing then why go through more surgery, but that is me....I just want to take what I have and make the most of it....I try to get by on my personality (ha ha) I'm just not so sure that it would be worth it to get my boobies the same size for additional pain....I'm sorry, it's just me......
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The plus side to the reduction is that the plastic surgeon will send off the tissue to the lab for testing and if there was anything there... it won't be anymore! :=) I don't expect it to be a bed of roses, my aunt had one done, but there are many others that have been through it. I feel like I can do this for me and it should help my back and neck pain. I hate the idea of going back to high school boobies, but oh well! kay sah rah sah rah! It is what it is! I look at it this way I'm 46 now and I have a lot of living let to do. I want to be the best me that I can be and that includes feeling the best about the way I look and dress especially since I work in the public. Hopefully by the time I have the surgery I will be down to my goal wt. of 120 lbs and it that will help the surgery not be as bad.
Renee
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Renee...I think if it helps mentally, then it will help physically....My lumpectomy was only a small area underarm, so not so noticible except for scar and dent....Wow, can you imagine shopping for new wardrobe for 120 lbs....I have lost about 12 lbs being on this new anti-cancer diet, but my goal is about 135 lbs which is still 4 lbs away.......I even bought a pair of black skinny jeans......and feel great in them.....so you go girl!!!!!!!
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Thanks Jewly! I haven't weighed 120 since before I was pregnant with my first child. I am very excited to meet my goal! I am praying so hard that I can do this... I know that I will physically and mentally feel so much better. The Tamoxifen is giving me heck with my knees and I know part of it's because I am overweight, so less weight, less stress on the knee joints
! Will make me a hppy camper. All of you ladies say a prayer for me that I can do this weight loss thing and make it to my goal!
Renee
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MRI results are back... inconclusive. The same result as the CAT scan and ultasound. Now they want to do a Nuclear Medical red cell tag study. I declined. I only want them to keep an eye on it through a cat scan every 3 or 4 months. I talked to my family doctor because no one was calling and telling me the results. He called the center where they did the MRI and had the results faxed to him.He said not to worry its most likely a hemangioma and to have them watch it. The cancer center finally called about a half hour later and wants this study done. At this point I cannot tolerate any more tests and waiting for the results. I feel like I am going out of my mind. I don't think the Physician's Assistant appreciated my decision. He tried to scare me into doing it. I stood up for myself.
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You go veggy! I don't blame you at all, you have been through so much! If all the tests have been inconclusive anyway. What is the red cell tag study anyway? {{{{Hugs}}}}
Renee
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Veggy, that really sucks!!...They get us to do these tests and then they can't interpret them...Have you had a Pet scan?...What would a Nuclear Medical red cell tad study involve and show?...I too haven't heard of it before......I think hemangiomas are benign, so that is a good thing that your family doc thought that's what it might be, can you get a second opinion reading from another doctor that specializes in the liver I believe they are called a hepatologist.....
Once I had a head MRI because I felt dizzyness (My doc over reacted) anyway it came back as saying "possible aneurysm" well needless to say that for a year before a redo to compare, I was a basket case (I was scared to even sneeze) well the follow-up MRI could not even find it, so they really need to stop scaring the crap out of us before they know for sure.....best of luck.....
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