March 2010 Chemo Start
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Hi everybody!
I've been feeling much better the past few days. Had my lab work done Friday and all my counts were good.
Anybody on Taxotere having hand problems yet? Mine are burning/itching so much I feel like sticking them in a vat of benadryl!
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Hello Marchers,
Charley, I also had my second treatment (23rd) and yes it does seem as though the SE's are worse this time for me also. Today, I feel completely wiped out and foggy, and my legs feel so heavy.
Stay strong Marchers - Stacey
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llm822, I think I know just what you mean. I'm worried I'll get totally slammed for saying this, but when I could feel the cancer in me, it felt sick and 'wrong,' but still like me. The chemo is just wrong. It's poison, it's toxic, and while I keep trying to tell myself it really is the best tool we have for the job right now, nothing about it feels right. My body only feels like mine some of the time. The others it feels hijacked, invaded. If I knew the cancer wouldn't spread I would choose keeping it over holding chemo drugs in my body. Sigh. But it does spread and I want to live the other half of my life!
Anyway there's my rant.
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Carolsue, I had problems with itching on the tops of my hands, bad! I scratched them so much they got really rashy, but I think the chemo just really dried out my skin a lot. I bought a nice cool mist humidifier, and the itching stopped and the rash is almost gone.
Melanie B
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Hi all, this is my 4th day post-1st TC. (Same as Dublin!) I made it to work today, a little tired and definitely feeling "weird" but I made it. I also feel gross, llm822. I actually feel horribly bloated. Like my belly wants to explode. I have been eating very small meals, mostly bland food, but whenever I eat or even drink anything, I feel bloated. I'm not really nauseated; I think the Prilosec has helped a lot. I also have been taking Claritin and think that has helped avert any bad SE from the Neulasta. (I've had some mild body aches but ibuprofen helps.)
It's been cold and rainy here all day, but the SUN is supposed to come out tomorrow and it's going to warm up, so that should help me feel better over the next few days!
hereandnow--good for you for trying the different hair color! That's a good idea!
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Had a nice talk at work today about my "priorities" .. nine days til FMLA .. nine days til FMLA ..
Carol -- woohoo on the blood work!
teemee .. I feel "wrong" in my skin with the chemo as well. I am convinced I can smell it and don't want to get too close to anyone in case THEY smell it. I know ... of all the things to worry about let's spend an hour or two obsessing over how you smell .. LOL
Having little "drifts" of hair float past my face today which is a major irritant because most of them end up in my nose, mouth, eyes ..:)
horsedoc -- the SUN!!!!! Drove to work this a.m. and the moon was still out -- it was so pretty. It's still a bit chilly -- this has been the coldest winter I can remember (for Florida ..
I can't believe it's Spring already --- and by summer maybe a good number of us will be through Chemo 2010. (Of course, in a four months when it's over 100 I'll be complaining -- but on the good side I won't have all that hair to contend with.)
Anyone know if sun exposure is a problem with chemo/rads?? Will have to look into that .. the beach is calling ..
I'm ready to give up the bland colored food as well. Going to LaHa (La Hacienda) with the hubby tonight to try some "real" food. Maybe I'll actually be able to eat it ..
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hi llm822, I felt that too, and I think I put it down to the steroid - have you tried an ativan? A shower helped too, then a nice non-scented moisturiser. The feeling went away at day 8 for me. take it easy. you'll feel better soon.
Lisa
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and elen, I'm so sorry your work is revolting. What do they mean "priorities", they've got to be kidding? What's FMLA?
Horsedoc, 20ish years ago when I was a groovy young thing, I would occasionally try on friends' wigs and go out to nightclubs, long blond, short black bob, it was really liberating being someone else for the night. I hadn't thought of that since, but yesterday when I put on the red wig I had a little flashback
I don't mind the idea of occasionally transporting myself out of the hereandnow, and it'll feel kind of fun. Another thing I guess is it's sort of like me wearing my fake boob bra down to the newsagent - I don't like people staring at the space where my right boob used to be, so I wear the bra. I think that every once in a while, I won't want people staring at my shiny bald pate/ beautifully tied scarf - so will wear the hair for a little anonymity.
Another little snack food I made up and froze and found helpful was little individual serves of chili con carne ( without the chile). Comfort food with some rice and protein.
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I too experienced the gut thing....bloated, bloated, bloated. When I explained it to my Dr. Onc, he attributed it to the Decadron....prescribed Prilosec. I have not had any hand or nail issues, although I have only had 1 round of Taxotere and Cytoxan.
My labs came back today and I was told I had great bone marrow...gee, I have never been complimented on that before! Sort of like being told I have a great looking colon....too funny.
When I read "elen" saying she can smell it, I have to tell you, I know what you mean. I visited a friend of mine on Sunday and she adopted a dog whose original owner died of cancer. Well the dog went wild with me.....all over me, smelling, nudging...something she has never done to anyone else, and my friend thinks it is because she smelled the chemo....same chemo regimen the original owner was on......something to think about at least....
Take care and peace to all.
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I did start taking Prilosec last week, which I think does help with the bloating, so I guess I'd explode if I wasn't on that, haha!
I feel like I smell funny too! That is so cool about the dog being so interested in you, Janice. They are so sensitive to things we are not always aware of.
Chili con carne without that chili! Ha!!! Reminds me of my friend who likes onion rings, but pulls the onions out first.
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FMLA .. family medical leave act ... going to take it on the 9th . .my one year anniversary date .. and take the opportunity to do a little job hunting. (Not that I"m likely to be hired without hair . but what the heck)
Basically, FMLA protects the job and, more importantly for me, my insurance ...
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good for you Elen
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Hello fellow Marchers ~
I'm Day 5 after my 2nd treatment (TC) and got back to work today. Claritin did make a HUGE difference for me. It did not totally take away the bone pain but made it much, much better. I took it the day I got my neulasta shot and every day since then. I did find my fatigue was worse this time (not tremendously worse) but I've been told by others that each treatment gets more "challenging",
I debuted the wig today at work and got lots of compliments. A few of the guys actually thought I'd just restyled my hair and thought it looked great. What a great ego booster! I'll take them whereever I can get them!
Hope everyone else is hanging in there!
Hugs, Charley
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Sorry I've been out for a few days. Dealing with the fatigue. The first go-round I tried to power through the fatigue and just kept going. This time I decided to be kind to myself and take it easy. Let the family do all the work. Just too tired to get online. Took a nap on Sunday and then went straight to bed. The not sleeping part is hard. Now I'm getting hot flashes. Woo hoo! I didn't find round 2 any worse -- in fact it was easier because I knew what to expect and anticipated what I needed. So I guess I managed it better. What I didn't anticipate was how hard working would be on days 6 and 7. First round I hadn't started my new job yet. So yesterday I'm sitting at my desk wondering if I feel like I'm going to upchuck in my new office or if my stomach is just churning. It was just churning. By 5, I wasn't sure I could drive myself home I was so tired. Stupid me. Stayed to the end just to show I could do it. Last night gas/cramps and a bit this morning. Started on the Prilosec on day 2 -- no heartburn and I'm hoping it helps with the bloating. I had bloating last week -- nothing fit and I felt huge. GOt the metal mouth now. Not even water tastes good. I also recommend Activia -- that has helped. ANd get some medicated bottom wipes (not baby) since hair loss coupled with the loose stools and the burning from the chemo makes it tender. Sorry ... TMI.
Welcome to our new folks. Lurking is fine. ANd I'm glad we were able to help. Hair still hanging in there. Lint rolled my head this weekend and now starting to exhibit signs of male pattern baldness. Still shedding but full head of 1/2" long hair.
Restful nights to the Marchers!
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frosty1 -- I have the same hair problem -- buzzed it, only lost part so far, 1/2" hair everywhere. Sleeping in a soft cotton "sleep cap".
Had treatment #2 today (AC), and no SE's so far, but was sent home with 5 syringes of neupogen to self-administer starting tomorrow (white count a bit low), to be repeated for the remaining 2 AC treatments, but not for Taxotere when it starts up after that.
Good thoughts to all Marchers!
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Sorry I disseminated incorrect info in my last post...I just read in a link to Psychology Today that you cannot get tryptophan from a glass of warm milk. If it puts you to sleep, it's for some other reason. They said the only way to get tryptophan is in a supplement that the FDA banned from import.
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tryptophan = turkey ???
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Good Morning Everyone,
I know I remember reading this somewhere on the boards but don't recall. I believe I am in chemo-pause, didn't get it this month. So the question now, will it come back when I am done.
Yesterday was a rough day, very tired this go around, while I was having my picc line cleaned I mentioned to the nurse about the tennis ball feeling in my mouth. I have the metal taste but I also have a "fuzzy" feeling. She checked for mouth sores (thrush) and everything is fine.
Wide awake at 2 am and said my prayers for all the Mighty Marchers, never fell back to sleep so today will be a long day also. Take care all - Stacey
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Hi Elen, in that article they also said when you're sleepy after eating turkey, it's not from the tryptophan, it's from something else. I don't know for sure if their pronouncements are the last word or not. They also listed brown rice, nuts, milk, eggs, cheese, fruit and vegetables as sources of tryptophan but then they qualify it by saying you can't eat enough to have the sleepy benefits (or something to that effect). I'm like Stacey, to avoid up at 2, maybe tryptophan is worth checking out.
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Heading in for TC #2 later today...made it through one with no major problems just the same "not feeling normal" for 7 or 8 days after...must say the worst was lower back pain following the neulasta shot but one Tylenol cured that...managed to work everyday since DX with one day missed for lumpectomy, one day for TC RX #1 and today for RX #2. I have been regularly getting my fill of water and juice every day with 30 to 60 minutes of walking or jogging at least 5 days a week. Hoping all goes well with RX 2, 3, and 4 and I am able to keep up the exercise routine.
I did start losing hair around day 13 post RX #1 and ended up buzzing it pretty short. Still have some on top, but gradually losing more each day. The short cut helps prevent big patches from coming out at once, alleviates big messes of hair and helps keep the shower drain from clogging!
Best to all the Marchers as we move into April!
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Good morning to all our Marcher Ladies! A bit of historical trivia: in old Anglo-Norman Britain, trusted lords were appointed by the King to guard the borders between England and their unfriendly northern neighbors Wales and Scotland. Since those areas were called the "Welsh Marches" and the "Scottish Marches", these strong and powerful guardians against invasion of England were called the Marcher Lords. Not so very different from what we Marcher Ladies are doing right now with our chemo!
I had my #3 yesterday, one day ahead of schedule because they were already double-booked for today. I was able to bring my RBC count up over the line to 'normal' with some diet tweaking during the past six days, so no worries there. However, my WBC dropped from last week; from 4.7 (within normal) to 3.8 (low); likewise my neutrophils from 65% and 3.1, to 57% and 2.0. The neutrophils are still within normal (42%-75%, and 1.4 - 6.5) so no real issues there except that I would rather not have seen any drop at all. I am hoping that the WBC drop is due merely to not having the extra day between the weekly treatments that I otherwise had/will have.
This time instead of drinking just water the morning of my treatment, I had 8 oz water, 8 oz of Pedialyte (for electrolyes) and 8 oz of apple juice (for sugar). Also had a banana muffin before leaving for the onc's office, and a cup of diced pears while getting treatment. I had a hunch that the slight dizziness I experienced during and shortly after completing the chemo may have been due to something lowering my blood sugar temporarily. This time I experienced no dizziness at all, so my hunch may have been right. I kept my total fluid intake for the day to 3 1/2 qts, 2 qts being water and the rest being 1/2 qt each of Pedialyte, fruit juice, and homemade soup made with veggie broth, beans, and, chopped veggies.
No hair loss yet anywhere although I expect something should happen between now and #4. My onc did say that on weekly Taxol it usually doesn't start until at least week 3. Since I've already got 1/2" of new hair from my pre-emptive pre-chemo#1 buzz-off, I'm going to go back on Tuesday and get rid of what's here so that when it does start coming out it won't be uncomfortable.
Although I have to limit my computer/sitting down time because of a major sciatica flare-up, you are all in my thoughts and good wishes every day!
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Day 6, post 1st. chemo. been doing very well, so far, until last night. sprnt 2 days getting unplugged, to the runs. Was up all night running to the bathroom, and now my hemroids are bleeding. and leg and back pain. sciatica flaring up again so tens unit came out.So not going to do much today.Took claritin and imodium also.
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Hi ladies,
day 3 after 1st treatment, have had terrible headache since getting chemo, But I have been sleeping all night. My problem is loss of appetite and not being able to drink much. I try and I switch it up but just can't do it. Nothing tastes right not even water. YUCK! I may try the Prilosec, stomach is a bloated and weird. Not really nauseous, so thinking I have some reflux?? Oh who knows.
Wishing everyone a good day!!
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Kayne, for the off-taste in water try using "True Lemon" (it also comes in True Lime and True Orange) -- my local supermarkets carry them. There's also a coupon on their website (www.truelemon.com). It comes in little packets that add just enough taste to an 8-oz glass of water to make it palatable -- not too sour, not too sweet.
A question for those who are getting Neulasta or Neupogen as a result of low WBC results (not just prophylactically): At what level/count did your onc say your WBC was "too low"? Just curious.
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Hello all
Day 7, still very nauseous unless I don't move or I take compazine, which makes me sleep. Does the nausea last the entire months and months of treatment? I'm going to ask the doc tomorrow when I go. Got the icky taste thing, but I woke up without muscle pains which felt great. Also without the horrible headache. Want to go for a walk, but I stand up and the queasies start.
RE: the stomach stuff. My onc put me on pepcid and told me to take it every day for the entire treatment. She strongly feels there is no need to deal with that pain, it's not necessary. So maybe it's just a treatment drug? I know the chemo does in the stomach & intestinal cells, so why not protect ourselves? I haven't had too much stomach pain, just a couple of nights, so I'm pro-pepcid or prilosec or whatever.
Good day to all and big hugs,
Toni
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Good morning Ladies of the March - we are now officially in April, moving on.
One of my onc nurses told me that ginger ale can be a good thing to drink as well. I didn't have any during #1, but I did drink ginger tea. After lovemygarden's experience, I made sure for the next one, I have bought lots of different varieties of mineral water, and I too will be having pedialyte. And I made up a big batch of chicken stock for soups - I feel like a real Martha Stewart of the chemo kitchen.
Also, my vege patch is going bananas with the Autumn warmth, and I have heaps of silverbeet, spinach, and beans, pak choy and bok choy- so I'm harvesting the greens for soups and stir fries. You guys are heading into spring. so your gardens will be slowly emerging from the cold, enjoy.
I used nexium for heartburn and it was very helpful. I'm de-drugging now because I don't have any symptoms, apart from my renewed boob pain after re-excision of some tissue, but even that's settling down.
Happy Easter, stay safe if you're on the roads. And all those in the middle of a treament, only a few more days and you'll be through.
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I am on my third day out from my 1st chemo treatment and have found ginger ale to be soothing for me. I was quite nauseous on day 1 and compazine did nothing. Zofran has been my saviour. I had a great deal of trouble sleeping last night, as a matter of fact, I don't think I slept at all and my face is extremely red. My nurse told me that both were most likely a result of the decadron. I feel extremely tired and also having a tough time drinking enough water at this point. Hoping to get some energy soon. Hope you all have a great night!
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Decadron is brutal.....causes insomnia, bloating, gastric upset, flushing of the skin, headaches, and on and on and on.......
I have developed a sore wayyy back on the underside of my tongue...I have had such a time with the fuzzy white crappy tongue thing....I am now on Diflucan for it. I am also down to just sipping warm clear soup...chicken and vegetable stocks.....
My hair is falling out by the handful.
I met someone while waiting for my Dr Onc appt yesterday who was also right where I am....she told me she smoked pot for some of the side effects.....like nausea, vomiting, and pain.....I do not know if I could bring myself to do that though......but it is crossing my mind.
Peace to all.
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Hi everyone,
I hate my wig. I just needed to say that. I hate it hate it hate it. It's itchy and foreign and wrong. I have gone out in public wearing it about 3 times, and I feel like I look ridiculous. I feel like I'm trying to hide my identity or something. I know the people who see me who know what I really look like, like at the grocery store & places like that, have to be thinking, what's that on her head???? I feel so self-conscious. I wanted to go with a wig instead of just the scarf because I am a very self-conscious person anyway. But I don't think the wig is making me feel any less self-conscious.
Tomorrow I go for treatment #2. I'm wearing a scarf, I at least want to be comfy for treatment.
My hair is about 3/4 gone.
Anyway, just venting. Thanks for listening.
Melanie B.
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For those of you with the metal mouth (or fuzzy mouth), try swishing with Biotene mouthwash. That helped a bit for me. But right now even water tastes awful. As does ginger ale. However, a nice slushy margarita fit the bill just fine! Can feel I'm on the upward slope again -- day 8. Then I looked at the calendar and realized I just have next week and then back again. Man time flies when I'm working. The last 21 days went by much more slowly. Or maybe it was my imagination. Chemo-pause. I do believe that some of us may have the joy of experiencing menopause more than once! I was more than week late for my period, but it started last Monday. Very light for 7 days. Started hot flashes the day after chemo last week. I feel hot and cold at the same time in the mornings. Fun. Other things I've learned: SUN - use #30 or #50 -- skin is extra sensitive right now. The extreme nausea seems to last for most of us 3-7 days and then we're fine. Drink lots of fluids to flush the chemo out of your liver and kidneys.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry taht the meds they give us to control the SEs have more SEs sometimes than the chemo!
Happy April to all!
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