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  • Iamstronger
    Iamstronger Member Posts: 378
    edited March 2010

    Hey Frosty!  Well, I still have enough to where I don't need to shave it yet.  I made it through my son's auction.  Now, I am on a mission to make it through until his 4th Birthday party on Saturday.  It is coming out though...... 

    I know what you mean about wanting it to be done.  The amount that I lose when I take a shower, and style it is sad and ANNOYING.  Hair everywhere.  But, until my head looks bad, I am holding out!!  :)  I have my husband and a couple of girlfriends (who will be brutally honest) to tell me when "It's time". 

    Hope your legs are better and that you are feeling well and having little to no side effects.

    Verene

  • anniebford
    anniebford Member Posts: 128
    edited March 2010

    Hi Seattle ladies,

    I haven't posted much but now I have a question and hopefully you all have some answers:) I had a bilat mx in 2008 and am now ready for recon. In fact, I'm scheduled to have bilat DIEP in early April with Dr. Beshlian and Dr.Paige. I've searched pretty thoroughly on the bc.org site and have found very little about them. There is alot about NOLA though:) Do any of you have info/opinions on their work? I've gone to the monthly meeting and there were 2 women who had DIEP recon done. Are there others who have had it done? Or have you researched and used different doctors for your recon and why? I am getting closer to the big day and I just want to feel I am as informed as I can be, so thanks for your input.

    Annie

  • 3monstmama
    3monstmama Member Posts: 1,447
    edited March 2010

    Hi all, I am so sorry to have missed the meet up but I had to leave on one last business trip before starting rads this monday. It is going well enough--I think its too early for any real reactions.  One thing though, the people are Swedish are so unbelievabley nice.  Dealing with such friendly cheerful people is an awesome way to start my day even the rainy days like this one.

    Anyone else doing rads at Swedish right now?

  • ginagina
    ginagina Member Posts: 327
    edited March 2010

    Hi everyone: it was soo good to see everyone at RR last week.

    So I have a question for the group: do you know of any women (pref local) who have made the decision for prophylactic bilat mastectomy becuase they were either BRCA+ or had a strong family history? I have a friend here who has been doing all her research; her breast guy is Dr Clarfeld (and he has recommended that she proceed) and she has had consultations with several PS (McMillan, Welk, someone in Renton and another I can't remember), but it just hasn't come together for her. I think in part because she hasn't connected with others that have been faced with the same decision AND she hasn't been able to find a PS that she has clicked with (dr clarfeld wont go forward without it).

    I didn't have to stew long on many descions when I was diagnosed and I think that makes things easier. I just recently came across the website FORCE or Facingourrisk.org, but dont know anything about it.

    Tracy: WOW!! $45k. That is amazing! I am going to a getting started meeting next week in Bellevue so I am a definite GO! but my best gal pal in San Francisco is going to train as well, so I think I am going to try and find a team here, but walk San Francisco Oct 1-3. Does anyone do that?

    3monstmama: I did chemo at Swedish: totally agree. Everyone there is sooo wonderful!

    anniebford: my bs recommended Beshlian; he supposed to be one of the best. Someone here also went to him; but who escapes me.

    Verene: hope the hair is hanging in there!

  • Issymom
    Issymom Member Posts: 264
    edited March 2010

    Gina - I am BRCA+ and so is my sister (she just found out a month or so ago).  I was going to have a lumpectomy until I found out I was BRCA+.  Dr Clarfeld is my surgeon and I will be going to Welk for recon. My sister is trying to figure out what she wants to do.  If it would help her, I'd be happy to talk to her.  The FORCE website is great as it is geared to women like her and me.  I don't know how old she is but there is a site called Be Bright Pink which is for young (under 40) high risk women.  It might help her to know there are lots of women like her. 

    Verene and I went to a recon panel at Gilda's Club on Wednesday.  It was really informative.  If reconstruction is an issue for her, I'd be happy to share what I heard there.  There were several doctors who came highly recommended by the panel.  PM me if you think I could help.

  • 3monstmama
    3monstmama Member Posts: 1,447
    edited March 2010

    About the BRCA thing,  there is a news report from the ongoing Conference in Barcelona about that very subject.  here is--hopefully--a link to the article:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100326/ap_on_he_me/eu_med_breast_cancer_treatment

    This is the second report out of the conference that has me pondering.   The first--from yesterday-- had to do with women and weight and exercise.  It seems that the conference is saying that 30% of breast cancers could be avoided......hmmmm

  • Issymom
    Issymom Member Posts: 264
    edited March 2010

    3monstmama - Interesting article.  For me, it was really not an issue of survival as much as I didn't want to get BC again. With the gene mutation, there was too much of a chance of a "new" BC diagnosis.  Having gone through chemo, I really don't want to go there again!

  • Claire_in_Seattle
    Claire_in_Seattle Member Posts: 4,570
    edited March 2010

    I just want to point out that there is nothing any of us can do to avoid getting BC at this point.  Yes, weight is one of the risk factors.  But don't think any of us will know why we won this particular lottery.

    What we can effect is our risk of recurrence going forward.  One of the really major things we can all do is make sure we get enough exercise.  Even during chemo.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4ZMZYdJUWM

    I certainly have had a different trip than most chemo patients, which I attribute to making sure I got as much exercise as possible.  I even did the Chilly Hilly, albeit the shorter route.  I have a 35 mile bicycle ride planned for tomorrow with a friend.  This is on Day 6 of Taxol.  And I am already training for the Seattle-to-Portland.

    Exericse of course also affects weight, and both affect estrogen production (assuming you will not be getting anti-hormonal therapy).  They also affect insulin growth hormone which is also associated with recurrence (and Type 2 diabetes which we also don't want).  Melinda Irwin has done extensive research in this area, and I think this video of her and another member of her team is worth watching. - Claire

  • 3monstmama
    3monstmama Member Posts: 1,447
    edited March 2010

    Claire_in_Seattle,

    Agreed, for us BC certainly can't be avoided. But the reports are still interesting as far as decision making goes for those people in earlier stages, as well as what we tell our daughters.  For me I am flumouxed as to how I would fall in the catagory of people w/ bc who could have imapacted it by diet or exercise--I have eatten a pretty darned healthy diet [mostly organic, nearly nothing processed or "fast", lots of grains, limited meat] for 20 years or more, I'm not really overweight [more than I would like but nothing that registers with doctors or charts] and until the last couple of years, I get exercise [not enough by my standards].  Being healthy--eatting right, getting exercise--is good for so many reasons.

    For myself, I am walking from my rad appointments at Swedish and when they move to the middle of the day, I will be walking there and back again.  I bought a bike [first one in 25 years!] and am learning how to ride it.  And I make myself leave work an hour early so I can fit in more exercise. I'm even thinking of registering for my first walk-run ---a 6k to promote awareness of the lack of clean water in the rest of the world.

  • Claire_in_Seattle
    Claire_in_Seattle Member Posts: 4,570
    edited March 2010

    The big one I didn't do was have children.  The rest of the list hits everything else you don't want, and for most women, including early stage BC, heart disease is the big one.  The only thing different here is that wine is protective against heart disease while a risk factor for BC.

    Good luck relearning to ride your bicycle.  So many wonderful places to cycle here.  I am off to do the Foothills Trail with a friend in a few....35 miles total up and back.  Did the "up" part with a different friend last Saturday and got stranded with a flat in South Prairie.  We were rescued by two guys on motorcycles, one of whom went home, got his truck, and drove us back to my car in Puyallup.

    Chivalry isn't dead!!!!

    What is really fun it to do a ride to a destination with great baked goods.  Cycling Club members are up on two things: microbreweries and bakeries.  Pie is a particular favorite.  I did National Pie Day back in January when I was really dragging from AC.  Just so much fun.

    I had trouble eating enough this week.  My body was just working too hard processing Monday Taxol and all the exercise from last weekend.  Finally ate a steak Tuesday evening, and then was OK.

    Reminder to make myself some eggs prior to heading off to meet cycling buddy.  I will need the energy as expect to burn about 1800-2000 calories.

  • sandiek9
    sandiek9 Member Posts: 54
    edited March 2010

    Thanks to you, Frosty, I found this link! I probably won't make the next get-together, but we;ll see how the chemo goes. I had a second buzz cut yesterday! The steroids make the hair grow faster and it was getting out of hand! Think it'll start to fall out next week. It was great though - had a head massage, conditioned my scalp, hot towels, herbal rinse - lots of TLC. Well worth it!

    I love knowing this group is here, supporting each other, and getting together to celebrate.I look forward to meeting everyone! 

  • tkone
    tkone Member Posts: 511
    edited March 2010

    Hi SandieK-welcome!

    Claire et all.  Good points on exercise.  I hate to subscribe to the "I got cancer because I did or didn't do ....." so I try not to go there for my own sanity.  However, I have two girls and want to be as informed as possible about what their risks are now.  Everything that I read says that exercise between the ages of 12 and 21 significantly decreases your risk of breast cancer.  As an adult, I hear a minimum of 4-5 hours of exercise per week is the general recommendation.

    As far as I'm concerned, I went through chemo, radiation, surgery and am now taking tamoxifen and zometa all in an effort to decrease my risk and none of these things fall into what I would consider a good time.  Getting enough exercise every week so that my risk can be decreased by 30-50% is a no brainer for me.  It is the easiest of all of the things that I do to decrease my risk.  Besides, I feel like with my girls being 11 and 12, they need all the motivation they can get to stay active (they are very active girls right now) and if I can show them that as an adult I try my hardest to get enough exercise, it should become second nature to them.

    I am not as ambitious as Claire Laughing as she is a ROCK STAR!  But do try to get out as much as possible.  In fact, am procrastinating on taking a walk right this minute.  The dog is whining and the kids are at a sleepover so I have no excuse!  Better get out there!  Have a great day everyone.

  • Claire_in_Seattle
    Claire_in_Seattle Member Posts: 4,570
    edited March 2010

    Tracy.....

    Exercise is also about bone density so really important for that too.  I don't have a dog but they are great for getting you out the door.  I walked, and walked, and walked throughout AC to make sure I preserved mine.  Your daughters need to be building bone right now, and for the next 15 years.

    Snuck in a ride today along the waterfront between rain showers.  Abs hurt.....maybe they are giving up and starting to learn, but not to count on that one.

    Yesterday's ride was just gorgeous including stop at tulip gardens.  Came home with bunches, and also got in my complete ride.  Total of 50 miles for the weekend. - Claire

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2010

    WOW - I don't check for a few days and the thread gets busy!!!!

    Annie - Carol aka Golfer779 had a uni-diep done in January with Paige.  She attended some great meetings with women who have already had surgery, and others that are in the planning stages.  Kind of a "show and tell" if you are so inclined - very supportive and informative.  These are held at VM.  Send her a PM!  I think she started a thread called DIEP in Seattle or something like that.  

    Sandiek9 - welcome!

    Hope everyone got out and enjoyed the weekend - the news is reporting a storm on the way!

  • 3monstmama
    3monstmama Member Posts: 1,447
    edited March 2010

    CLAIRE IN SEATTLE

    I bike for pie---I love it!  If you are into pie, you need to check out a place in Stanwood called "Leatherheads" where they have the most AWESOME walnut pie EVER.  Really.  Its a converted fire house, they have a lot of nice microbrews as well as burgers and the like but the walnut pie is to kill for.  And even if you don't bike, its an easy hour drive north. . . .going there on Thursday as a matter of fact....mmmmm pie....................

    I shall aspire to 50 miles in a weekend. . . . . . in the meantime, pie......................

  • golfer779
    golfer779 Member Posts: 1,378
    edited March 2010

     Just not enough hours in the day as of late, so just a quick note as I poke my head in ...

    Susan, so I thought raising the monies to do the 3-Day would be tough too in 2008, in fact I had told myself when I signed up .... "I'll just donate the amount needed to reach the minimum myself", which was not the case at all.   I have a very good hunch that if you we're to send a fundraising letter to your family and friends they would respond in a BIG way.   I'll admit that last year it "felt" uncomfortable to ask friends and family again for support, but I did and they once again came through.  In fact I was able to help with others, as I had reached my minimum of $2300 quite early on.  Jjust tonight stopped at the post office and once again have sent my letter to more than 60 addresses, yes it's not easy to ask others for donations .... but as I wrote in my letter "who said breast cancer was easy" ???   A walking partner on BI ..... I like the sound of that, and with your caring sense of humor it would be a pleasure for anyone to walk the miles beside you !!!!!    Think about it .... but don't wait too long  !!!

    Gina .... once you have raised the monies for the 3 Day you can walk wherever you want, you would just register for that city.  

    Tracy, whoooooohoooooo on your 3Day fundraising !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   

    Annie, I am 10 weeks post op with a uni-DIEP.  Dr. Paige & Dr. Beshlian we're my docs.   I have nothing but good words for both doctors and VM !!!!!   I too saw posts and more posts from gals going to NOLA.   IMO ..... we have top notch docs right here in our backyard and it sounds like you've done your research.   Bottom line looking back ... last place I would have wanted to be post op, would be half way across the country from my doctors !!!!!

  • anniebford
    anniebford Member Posts: 128
    edited March 2010

     Thanks for your responses.  

    I got the port out yesterday. I talked with Dr. Beshlian last Friday and had the anethesia appointment afterward.  I'm scheduled for April 7 for bilat DIEP with Dr. Beshlian and Dr. Paige. It's getting close and I'm getting excited. There's alot to do in preparation for the recovery time at home. I'm glad to be finished with classes until the fall when I will hopefully start using the scholarship I won just before the bc bs began. The scholarship is through the governor/state and our  budget woes may cause a hold on honoring the awards next year.

    I can't wait to get humpty dumpty put back together again :)

    3montsmama- sounds like I should consider a drive up to Leatherheads to try that pie.

    Annie

  • Claire_in_Seattle
    Claire_in_Seattle Member Posts: 4,570
    edited March 2010

    Not sure about cycling, but looks like a good "recovery" spot from a hike up Mt Pilchuk.

    I love pie, but less than some other cyclists.  For example, I missed the ride that covered THREE pie joints in one day.

    On treatment: Seattle really is a world class medical center.  Not that most of the rest of the country knows this.  So unless a really compelling reason to go elsewhere....

    Annie, good luck on the scholarship.

    It looks like I will be coming out of chemo just as my consulting business heats up.  Talk about timing!  So glad I exercised throughout.  Also that I got things like upgrading to Office 2007 and migrating to my new Sony VAIO out of the way.  Not fun doing it just as I switched from AC to Taxol, but the learning curve is mostly behind me.  YAY.

  • gillyone
    gillyone Member Posts: 1,727
    edited March 2010

    How big a deal is getting out your port? I will be "discussing" this with onc at May appointment.

  • Issymom
    Issymom Member Posts: 264
    edited March 2010
    I don't think getting out your port is a big deal though it will probably be similar to getting it in, maybe not so sore afterwards.  My BS said it is his favorite surgery to perform Cool.
  • Claire_in_Seattle
    Claire_in_Seattle Member Posts: 4,570
    edited March 2010

    I haven't had it done yet, but will be done by a NP, not a surgeon.  So would imagine a more extensive version of getting the JP drain out.

    I am not expecting any major recovery time, but perhaps not lifting weights for a couple of days while it heals.  (I will ask and do as I am told.)  I will schedule at the same time I meet with Dr Zap and team for radiation.  My surgeon installed when she did the rest of the breast surgery as she checked with my oncologist.  And I had said "do with surgery" as more than 90% chance that I would need it anyway.

    Will get done three weeks post final chemo (next Monday) which is the soonest it can be removed.  Can't wait.

  • tkone
    tkone Member Posts: 511
    edited March 2010

    I had my port removed when I had my reduction and lift.  Recovery was a breeze.

  • anniebford
    anniebford Member Posts: 128
    edited March 2010

    Port removal was done Monday and it was not a big deal. It had to be done in the hospital per my insurance. I was loopy all of Monday from the anethesia but otherwise felt fine.

    Annie

  • golfer779
    golfer779 Member Posts: 1,378
    edited April 2010

    Port removal ?   Had a local surgeon (not my oncology surgeon) remove mine ... personally had general anethesia, although I know of others that just had a local (NOT) !   Just a little tender for about a week as I recall.  Bottom line .... it's a good thing !!! 

    Annie, took me some time but figured out that your the "Annie" I met at the VM recon meeting.   Your in good hands gal !!!!! 

  • ginagina
    ginagina Member Posts: 327
    edited April 2010

    Hi gals - OK, I am signed up for the 3-Day (San Francisco). Woot! It was good to go to the Getting Started meet up, though a bit surreal...I am just not used to the ra-ra (hearing all the stats being thrown around like advertising sound bites). And, I am also not used to saying I am a survivor. So weird! The words got stuck in my throat. But there you have it. I am glad I took the step and hope to get swept up into the ruckus soon.

    I equated port removal to being unhooked from the Borg! (I know I am not the only married to a si-fi geek)! I was sooo looking forward to it, I didn't care. I got "heavy sedation", just as I did for it's placement. However, with placement, I slept through the whole thing (just like on a general) but for the removal, I was awake for the whole thing...but in a very out-of-body-I-dont-care-I-wonder-if-I-am-going-to-fall-asleep kind of things. And before you know it, they were done and it was over. No soreness for me, because I had a bilat mx, so lost all my feeling with that surgery. 

  • tkone
    tkone Member Posts: 511
    edited April 2010

    Gina-Yippee!  Good for you for signing up.

    Cutey pie kids in your profile pic too!

    Tracy

  • Issymom
    Issymom Member Posts: 264
    edited April 2010

    Gina - I went to the 3 day kickoff meeting in Issaquah this week as well.  I was surprised when they asked if there were any survivors in the room.  I too never thought of myself that way and I also still going through chemo.  I was also a little uncomfortable with all the stats and stuff.  I found myself tearing up several times as I thought about someone I know or myself going through this again.  I was surprised how emotional I got as I am typically pretty strong.  I am glad to be doing the walk now I just need to start walking more.

  • Iamstronger
    Iamstronger Member Posts: 378
    edited April 2010

    Hi All,

    Great that so many of you guys are doing the 3 day.  I was on the fence about it.  I decided that perhaps this year would be too ambitious for me. I will be having rads in the mid June until the 1st of August.  So, I figured that will be a great goal for next year.    Hope everyone is doing well.

    Verene

  • golfer779
    golfer779 Member Posts: 1,378
    edited April 2010

    Gina and Lorrie, the 3 Day equals an experience like no other ... I'd be happy to share a copy of my fundraising letter if your looking for any ideas.   I've just sent out this year's letter, although I get a bit of a knot in my tummy when it comes to asking others for monetary support, I find it important enough to ask away.

    Verene, a smile from the sidelines would be support in itself.  

    Tracy. looks like your fundraising is going full steam ahead...love it !!!!!

    Happy Birthday to our AprilGirl !!!!!!

  • tkone
    tkone Member Posts: 511
    edited April 2010

    So excited about the 3 dayer!!  I'm with Carol, it is hard to ask for money sometimes but necessary.  Let me know if I can help in any way and I am ALWAYS up for a walk!

    Happy Birthday Mz April Girl!

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