February 2010 Mastectomy

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  • badger
    badger Member Posts: 34,614
    edited March 2010

    Hey Karen, here's a {hug} for you.  I'm in the March chemo group and yes it's a great support with ladies all going through it together, helping and advising and supporting one another.

    Best wishes ~ prayers ~ {{hugs}} all around PRN

  • chalex
    chalex Member Posts: 131
    edited March 2010

    Hi Ladies,

    Faith and hbowser- I wish you both well on your doppler U/S. That's too bad that you are having leg pains.

    To those of you starting chemo. Hang in there. I know he seems like another hurtle to get over. I agree that lots of water and comfort food maybe in order. Esp. if you are feeling queasy with chemo.

    caltex- I have had a couple of MUGA or wall motion tests. They are not too bad. I find them better than the SestaMIBI if anyone else had one of those brutal tests....

    Question- Does anyone have pain in the lower end of your arm. Sorta a shooting pain. Also,  anyone have a numb puffy bump under their arm? Does anyone know how long it can last?

    Question 2 or maybe 3 LOL- Is the cording a chronic problem or what should we be telling our physio people to treat this?

    Take care,

    Chalex

  • slh_tn
    slh_tn Member Posts: 61
    edited March 2010

    I've been visiting the site for the last six weeks and finally decided it was time to join in.  My surgery date was February 25.   Because of all of you, I was prepared for my unilateral mastectomy (delayed recontruction).  I knew what to bring to the hospital, what to expect with the drainage tubes, and to make sure I took my pain medication.  I can't imagine doing this without this site.  Many thanks to all who share their experiences.  

  • chalex
    chalex Member Posts: 131
    edited March 2010

    slh_tn- Welcome to the group. I am glad this site helped you be prepared for your unilateral mx. It's nice to meet other ladies that are in the same boat you are. I have learned alot on this site too.

    Chalex

  • MNLinda
    MNLinda Member Posts: 204
    edited March 2010

    Kayne, Karen and Laura - my chemotherapy wasn't as tough as I thought it would be.  Don't assume that all your side effects are from the chemotherapy drugs - some that I found troublesome were actually from the other drugs - especially the steroid and the acid blocker - and you may be able to  cut back on those.

    I always had lots of soup on hand - didn't want to drink too much sweet stuff, and got tired of plain water, so soup was a good alternative.  I also always liked cottage cheese.  I was never nauseated or even queasy.  I didn't feel all that bad, but didn't sleep well, so it was hard to feel good, either.  Mostly it's a matter of waiting for it to be over with.

    guardianangel - did you get the tinting done at a salon?  What did they use?  I've heard you can use henna, but haven't tried it.

    groundhog - I was all set with the dangly earrings today, but no one rang the doorbell.  Well, UPS driver, your loss.

  • guardienangel
    guardienangel Member Posts: 26
    edited March 2010

    mnlinda - i went to a hair and nail salon,,, and i do believe it is some sort of demi dye.. nothing toxic at all!!!! but omg!!! it sure made me feel better!!! and i am sure lots of you ladies will too!!!! I am sure most ofyou have very pretty scarves by now,, i also have two wigs that when I didnt want to stand out, and be notieced i wore. but it was very itchy, so not a daily thing... and i went thru chem during the winter,,, so wore hats alot too...

    i am doing somewhat better,, frustrated with my left side, being so tight! cause my right side seems so much more co operative??

    hang in my survivors,, we will all make it thru this.. hugs to everyone

  • badger
    badger Member Posts: 34,614
    edited March 2010

    Hi ladies, hope everyone is doing well and feeling good tonight!

    Lands' End fleece is THE most comfortable thing to wear next to my skin, does not irritate bmx site at all and feels sooo comfy.  I found fleece caps for $5 in their overstocks so bought a couple to use as sleep caps.

    Hair is going, going, getting thin but not gone yet. Lots in shower drain last two days and just plain falling out all day today.  Have a hair appt Sat to get what's left buzzed off. 

    Chemo tx #2 tomorrow starting at 8:30 with bloodwork, all prayers greatly appreciated. {{hugs}}

  • olivia218
    olivia218 Member Posts: 257
    edited March 2010

    Groundhog -- Prayers and hugs to you!!  

    Olivia 

  • dbdaze
    dbdaze Member Posts: 196
    edited March 2010

    Greetings again!  I haven't check in lately -- it's been 4 weeks today since my surgery and this last week I truthfully haven't wanted to leave my bed!  I don't know if it's my body telling me I'm overdoing things or if it's depression.  I did use alot of this "down" time to plan a family vacation this summer -- Costa Rica for the month of July!!   But now that that is done, I'm just feeling miserable about spending so much time sluggish and tired.  It was comforting (in a weird way) to see some recent posts about chest tightness and that, how did you say it Chalex?  numb, puffy lump under your arm.  I've been worried about that same thing!  Weird isn't it?  I still need a pain pill to make it through the night -- is anyone else still using pain meds this long after their surgery?

    Cyber hugs to all ~ Debbie 

  • chalex
    chalex Member Posts: 131
    edited March 2010

    groundhog- I am sending prayers to you on your next chemo. I feel for you on your hair coming out. I was there back in Sept. and it's tough to see your hair coming out. My hair is growing in now but it's much curlier and thicker..... I see it has my "chemo" but everyone that sees me tells me how "cute" it is......Pls feel to lean on us for support. I have been there too.

    Debbie- Yes, the puffiness numb lump under my arm is a strange thing. It does not change in size but looks like a lump of skin. I hope it gets smaller and shrinks up soon.

    Today, I went and looked at the prothesis out there. I was not impressed but what can you do..... There is no choice for me b/c I can't have reconstruction for a year b/c I had rads first and if I don't put anything in I will be lopsided.

    Have a good night everyone.

    Chalex

  • caltex_catlady
    caltex_catlady Member Posts: 136
    edited March 2010

    groundhog, we'll be thinking of you tomorrow. By the way, that's a great idea about the Lands End fleece caps. I just ordered a couple for myself. I probably won't be losing my hair for another month, but it can stay cool at night here in Northern California. I tend to get too warm a lot of the time, but I bet having no hair will make a big difference. I had gotten myself a couple of Lands End fleece button-front shirts before the surgery, and those have served me very well in the first few weeks. They get too warm during the day now, but they were great in February, and they're so soft against the skin. I'm a month out, and my skin still gets very sensitive.

    dbdaze, I'm just past 4 weeks and still take something for the pain, especially at night. I've been trying to do just with rx-strength ibuprofen most of the time, but I still have more vicodin if needed. I also take an Ambien to help me sleep, but I'd had insomnia a lot even before this all started. I say that if taking a pain pill (or a sleeping pill) helps you get the rest you need, there's nothing wrong with taking it.

    I saw the PT today to get exercises to prevent lymphedema and to be fitted for a compression sleeve. I asked about Wii games, and she suggested I start with hula hoop and some of the others that don't use a lot of arm movements, but also said that to make sure I do use both arms when I can. I had a bilateral, but my right side did not have the extra lymph node dissection that the left did. I'm right-handed, so it's been nice getting some strength and flexibility back on that side, but I should try to use the left when I can. I'm probably not up for boxing yet, though Wink

  • MNLinda
    MNLinda Member Posts: 204
    edited March 2010

    Debbie,

    I didn't take anything for pain beyond what they gave me in the IV the day of the surgery.  Took more Vicodin after the sentinel node biopsy -  although it's not supposed to be a big deal, I thought that one was right up there on the "yow" meter.  It wasn't the incision, it was the tracer injection that really hurt.

    I was surprised I really didn't have much pain from the mastectomy, mostly just numbness.  But everybody's different, and every surgery is different.  I didn't have a node dissection on the left because I had the sentinel node biopsy last fall, and although I had a dissection on the right, it was the 4th surgery I've had in that area and all the nerves had already been severed in the previous surgeries.  I'm guessing more of the pain is under the arms than in the breast area.

    I had the last drain taken out today, five weeks to the day after the surgery.  Do I hold the record for drain tube longevity?

    groundhog, eat a good breakfast, hope it goes well for you.  Like Chalex, I'm starting to see the hair coming back, first white, then almost black at the roots.  Kind of like tabby kitty fur.  I'm estimating you will have a half an inch or so by Labor Day.

    goodnight all.

  • LauraM
    LauraM Member Posts: 251
    edited March 2010

    Groundhog - prayers to you on your second tx.  I hope you take it well and are not too tired.

    Debbie - I am 4 weeks out and still take pain medications daily, I have had some side issues and a second surgery last week to take out nodes, sometimes I can get through the day with just motrin and other days I need something a little stronger.   My nurse told me yesterday that if I over do it on a day I will feel it the next two days and I believe her.  Last night was the worst night for all over pain/achiness that I have had since I came home from my TRAM surgery and I think it is because I have been really doing the arm exercises multiple times a day for my left arm that had the auxiliary nodes removed that I am putting too much pressure on my abdomen muscles.  I have also found that being tired makes my body feel sorer.

    Karen - I went to the Onc yesterday and here is what they put me on (might be the same as you).

    Dose Dense - 8 doses over 16 weeks

    4 doses - AC ( Adriamycia and Cytoxan) combination along with anti nausea medication.  Will be following up on day 2 of each treatment with a shot of Neulasta to boost my white blood cells.

    4 doses - Taxol.

    I will be scheduled for a catscan of my abdomen, a bone scan and a heart ultrasound prior to starting any of the treatment.  I won't be starting until my stomach heals which is happening slowly they think because I have become anemic.  Chemo should start the end of April beg of May.  I am off to get a multi vitamin and iron pills today.

    Question to anyone that has been through this cocktail - Did you work through this?  How did you feel over all?

    Have a great day!

  • Faith316
    Faith316 Member Posts: 2,431
    edited March 2010

    I took 4 treatments of AC (each 3 weeks apart) followed by 12 weekly Taxol and Herceptin.  After the Taxol ended, I stayed on Herceptin but it went to every 3 weeks instead of weekly until I had a recurrence as IBC.  After that, they changed me to Xeloda and Tykerb.  I'm still on the Tykerb.

    My experience with AC -- was not as bad as I expected.  I did feel queasy for the first couple of days and then day 4 or 5 I would get EXTREMELY weak.  But, I never threw up nor ever felt like I would.  The nausea was nowhere near that bad.  The second week I would start to feel a lot better and then the third week I felt fine.  I tried to take care of most of my errands during that week although I certainly didn't stay home all the time the other weeks.  I also took the Neulasta shot the day after treatment and had no problem.  Some women get severe bone pain from it, but I did not.  They gave me several anti-nausea premeds and that helped a lot.  One of them was Emend.  I also had to take a dose of Emend for the next 2 days after treatment.  Ask if you are getting Emend.  I think it is thought of as kind of the cadillac of antinausea meds. It was hard to make myself drink liquids -- just didn't feel like it.  I ate a lot of popsicles and Italian ice, jello, etc.  All in all, the AC was not that bad for me.  Nowhere near as horrible as I imagined.

    The Taxol was even easier.  Less nausea.  I did have achy bones with it and some slight neuropathy in hands and feet.  Also some hand/foot syndrome although that was fairly mild.  Certainly not like the rather severe hand/foot syndrome the Xeloda caused!  I also got some mild nosebleeds while on Taxol.  

    I hope you girls that are getting ready to start or have recently started with AC + T do well on it also.  If you have any questions, i'd be glad to answer.  Good luck!

    Edit  -- I forgot to answer your question about working.  I teach middle school and made the decision not to work while I was taking these treatments, although part of it fell over summer break.  I started AC in June 2008 and finished my Taxol around Thanksgiving 2008 and went back to work in December and finished out the school year.  (I also had radiation from Dec. 2008 - Feb. 2009 while I was working.)  My cancer recurred as IBC in June 2009.  I worked the first nine weeks this fall but quit in November 2009 because some of my side effects from Xeloda and Tykerb were getting to the point where it was hard for me to work.  Also, knowing that I was going to face mx surgery, I made the decision to take off the rest of this year.  I have been dealing with all this stuff for 2 years since April 2008.  Hopefully the cancer is all gone for good this time and I will go back to work next fall and put all this behind me.

  • LauraM
    LauraM Member Posts: 251
    edited March 2010

    Faith316 - Thank you for providing such good information.  I will be receiving Emend via IV while I am at the center and then by pill on days 2 and 3.  I will also be taking Aloxi and Decadron via IV for nausea.  Not so sure what I think of Decadron because it is a steroid, need to ask a few more questions about it.  I am trying to decide if I can work through this or not.  I have a type A personality and was working on a very large international project prior to going out on Disability for my dmx.   I was working lots of hours, 60  - 70 plus on a regular basis.  My boss said I can work from home and just do small projects but it worries me about how easy it would be to get back into long hours.  We have lot of meetings late at night and then early in the AM.  I have worked really hard to get a good reputation at work and I am afraid I will ruin it if I can't do my job fully and people have to keep picking up the slack for me.  I know people will be very helpful and understand, but Chemo goes on for 16 weeks and then I may have radiation and then my tram's need to be completed so I am not sure what I should do.  I have a pretty good 6 months  short term disability policy through work that started Feb 29th and the I have a longterm disability policy also that I pay into that I could use if needed.   I am trying to figure this out because I need to figure out daycare for my 9 and 11 year old.  It will work out I am sure, I just hate loose ends.  Thanks again for  you info!

  • badger
    badger Member Posts: 34,614
    edited March 2010

    Hi all, just checking in after tx #2, it was uneventful and had a great onc nurse so it went quickly and painlessly.  In at 8:30 for labs and walked out at 1:00.

    I took off 2 weeks for the mast but am working through chemo just taking off tx days and the day after.  Job is in accounts payable so if bills stack up, I can catch up a few days later and stay within company parameters.  Some work can be done off-site, my supervisor's great about letting us work from home (she has a life too lol).

    TC is taxotere and cytoxan which I will have every three weeks for 6 treatments, then on to tamox.  My SE's are mostly nausea-related and lasted 4 days after tx #1.  I took generic compazine every 4 hours for the first four days and also learned to eat something small every couple hours.  BTW there is lots of good advice in the chemo forum.

    Hope everyone has a restful weekend ~ best wishes for good days!  {{hugs}}

  • Faith316
    Faith316 Member Posts: 2,431
    edited March 2010

    Laura -- I also took Kytril and Decadron.  The decadron made me not be able to sleep the night of chemo.  I usually just made sure I had something to read cuz I knew that the night after my treatment I would likely be awake most of the night if not all of it. 

    Groundhog -- glad your treatments are going well so far.

  • ReginaR
    ReginaR Member Posts: 287
    edited March 2010

     Hello Feb Sisters, Sorry I havn't posted lately, But been checking in. I think & Pray for  you all .  Hoping all are Recovery well & every one is getting stronger evdery day!

     I Saw Surgeon Yesterday I am still having swelling around incision & rt arm pit, he did not want to drain  fluid, he wants to see if My  body will asborb it! still having pain,but it better & Emtionally i feeling better. I been off the tomoxifen for 2 weeks, onocogist took me off for a month break while the infection clears up. My leg pain & engery is better , so it could have been  the side effect of tamoxfin ( so Now I am scared to go back on) Iam Praying about it & I may not  take it anymore, I see Her in 2 weeks &  I Will discuss it with her & have labs done again! I finish My last antibotic today, ( yea) So I hope my stomach will start feeling better & get back to normal now! Welll  I got the Surgeon to release me to go back to work next week, With some restrictions,  no lifting over 10lbs. I am really excited , but scared cause it 's  been   3 months since I worked!, so I need to get back ( no more PTO left) Pray that all goes well. I am planning on Monday march 29th!  5 Surgery behind me & Iam ready to get on with my life! Well My sweet Sarah has been so patient & finally going to have her 16th B-day party for family Sat ( hope no one goes to hospital this time ) her Birthday was actually march 5th,the day I went into Hospital with infection& had Surgery  to Remove TE.  The Cake been Order ,so it a go, Pray we all stay healthy ,I hate to cancel it again-!  I just want you all to know how much I appreciate all the sweet post & Hugs. Thanks For make this Challenging time much easier, because of your support! {{hugs}} Gina PS Have a Blessed weekend!

  • caltex_catlady
    caltex_catlady Member Posts: 136
    edited March 2010

    Laura, our dose dense chemos sound the same. It's looking like 4 months instead of 6. I had the bone scan already. It's pretty easy except that you have to be very still for 30-45 minutes and the machine's panel is very close over you. I recommend that you close your eyes before it's moved into place and don't open them until you're sure it's somewhere down your body rather than over your face. I'll have the heart scan next week.

    Gina, I've had a similar thing with the swelling under the arm where the nodes were taken. They drained a little on Monday, but I don't think it made much difference. I think we're going to just see if it reabsorbs, but in the meantime, it's annoying and uncomfortable.  Good luck when you go back to work. I've had some people who've been out a few months on maternity leave recommend that I start back on a Wednesday or Thursday when the time comes, rather than on a Monday. That way your first week back is a short one. Maybe that would work for you.

    Hugs to everybody,

    Karen

  • LauraM
    LauraM Member Posts: 251
    edited March 2010

    Regina - I hope the sweet 16 party goes off with out a hitch!   Tell her happy b-lated from me too!

    Karen -  I forgot if you answered this already, so sorry if I am asking questions twice.  Are you planning on working during Chemo?  I have been debating that back and forth and can't decide.  One of my best friends Mom is a onc nurse for my oncologist and she called me this morning and said that I would do better going to work while on Chemo because my mind will have other things to worry about.  I will be able to work from home much of the time so that is why she is recommending it.  I have to figure it out quickly because I need to set up summer camp for my kids.

    I also have the fluid and swollen area under my arm from where they have taken out the nodes, it is uncomfortable but I have found it to be be a little better the last couple of days and I am not sure if that is because I have really been focusing on my arm exercises.  I really want to get my range of motion back with out going to PT. 

    Have a great evening - off to do a little shopping, I booked us tickets the other day to go to Florida (Punta Gorda) to go hang with my wonderful in-laws for 9 days. We leave on Wednesday. YEAH!  I have to go and find shorts that I can wear that won't hurt my stomach wound from the allergy to the sutures.  The wound is still about 4 inches long, and inch wide and almost an inch deep.  It is lower than my waste but I am just nervous at what will be comfortable. 

  • dbdaze
    dbdaze Member Posts: 196
    edited March 2010

    LauraM --

    Glad to hear of your upcoming trip  -- it will be a wonderful diversion!  I just find it comforting to research possibilities for future vacations...I think I just need to look beyond my current status and envision me happy, healthy and without pain.

    I literally spent the majority of the last two days in bed. I woke up this morning determined to be productive and I was -- grocery shopping done, fridge clean, and laundry washed, dried and folded.  I think it relieved my husband to see me up and about.  Felt good but so will sitting in the sun with a cup of coffee!!  I'm off to soak up some rays. 

  • olivia218
    olivia218 Member Posts: 257
    edited March 2010
    All I have not posted in a bit - I have been a bit down. I am going back for another biopsy on the right side. I have beat myself up for not going ahead with a double mx.  I learned from my oncologist the other evening that I am part of a 1% population that would not be able to absorb the drugs she was going to suggest. I have to say I was impressed she even tested me. I did not know that was possible.  She said we would talk about the rest of the plans on April 15th after my next biopsy and discuss all the results.  

    Each of you going through these treatments are so brave - I pray for you and pray for little pain.  
     
    Olivia 
  • BulldogluvrBeck
    BulldogluvrBeck Member Posts: 41
    edited March 2010

    Hi everyone,

    I had my BMX on March 1st so everyone on my March MX site had surgery after me. I am here for advise from you Feb. girls.  I actually feel pretty good, did not do recon. I am doing my arm stretching and can reach my straight up, my elbow to my ear. Have lost my appetite though.

    I meet my oncol on april 1 and am nervous.  I see you all going into chemo and it helps to see that I can get through it too.

    Thanks all! 

  • Faith316
    Faith316 Member Posts: 2,431
    edited March 2010

    BulldogluvrBeck -- glad to hear you are doing pretty well.  Hope that reading through our thread will be helpful to you.  If you have any specific questions, someone here should be able to help.

    Olivia - so sorry you are having a hard time.  Just remember that we are all "sisters" and here to help each other.  Why the biopsy?  Did you feel something there or have a scan that showed something or ???? Hang in there.  We are all right here with you.  Lean on us for support and we'll help you get through whatever comes next.  Hugs and prayers for you.

  • olivia218
    olivia218 Member Posts: 257
    edited March 2010

    Faith316 -

    The oncologist disagreed with the surgeon about what they believed was a lymph node on my right side so back for a biopsy to see who is right!! UGH!! I should have just had a double and been finished.  Then we are addressing the microinvasions that are IDC and what to do.   She put on some medication for two weeks, while waiting for the bloodwork and found out my body was not absorbing it.  So not sure what plan is next.

    Thanks for the support!!

    Olivia 

  • cakeisgreat
    cakeisgreat Member Posts: 660
    edited March 2010

    Yeesh, Olivia!  Sorry you have to go back for a biopsy.  What a pain in the patootie!  I hope and pray it is clear.  I had microinvasions also--.1mm and .2mm.  What medication is it that your body does not absorb?

  • caltex_catlady
    caltex_catlady Member Posts: 136
    edited March 2010

    Laura: I have not gone back to work yet. I'm currently on short-term disability, and after April 13, it converts to long-term. I think I've decided not to go back right away, since my chemo will be four months instead of six and I may be able to go back even before the end of the four months if I'm doing well. From a paperwork point of view, I'm sure it would be a lot more complicated to go back to work then maybe need to take time off again than it would be just to extend my original leave. Luckily, there's no pressure from my job to try to go back early, although I'll be on 2/3 income during long-term. Ironically, I got this job initially as a temp gig to cover for someone out on leave for cancer. She tried to come back early a couple of times and found it too challenging. Maybe that's influencing me. She ended up just retiring at the end of her year off (at our job, at the end of one year of diability, you must return to work or leave the job). On the upside, that let me convert to full-time.

    My job isn't physical but it does require clear thinking. Along with potential nausea, getting chemo brain is one of the things I'm most worried about with chemo. On the other hand, being off work would probably make me less sharp anyway.

    Olivia, I'm sorry to hear you're going through all this again. And to have to wait a couple more weeks to find out the plan. Sometimes the waiting is the worst part. I hope the results are favorable and you can get started with the next stage.

    Bulldog, it sounds like you're doing pretty well with the range of motion. I had a bmx on 2/23, no recon, then additional nodes on the left on 3/11. My right arm is doing really well, but I still have issues with the left. I've been doing my exercises, though, so I'm hoping it's just being slow. I hope to be able to match your flexibility soon. Be sure to talk to your onco if your appetite doesn't come back. You need that good nutrition to handle surgery and everything that comes after. And sleep! If you can get something close to a good night's sleep (or afternoon, for that matter), it will help.

    Hugs to everybody,
    Karen (caltex_catlady)

  • olivia218
    olivia218 Member Posts: 257
    edited March 2010

    Cake,

    The oncologist said after whatever course of treatment we decide I will have to take Tamoxifen. She said but one thing we can do right away is see if your body would even absorb it. She said no sense in putting that in our plan if your body won't absorb it.  She said that would also help her with the kind of treatment she could prescribe.  It is all so complicated. I did not even know that was a possibility and then that would help her decide what to do next.  All very interesting.

    Olivia 

  • LauraM
    LauraM Member Posts: 251
    edited March 2010

    Olivia,

    Good luck on your appointments and I am sorry you have to go through this again...ugh.  This was one of the reason's I chose to have dmx, I knew I couldn't go through having to have everything tested all the time.  My prayers are with you!

    Karen - thanks for you insight on going back to work.  I am worried the most about mental clarity, I have worked hard at my career and I have a good reputation and I am a little concerned that if I go back to early I am going screw that up.  I will think more about it while I am on vacation.

    MNLinda - Thanks for the info on Chemo, I am a little worried about the steroid and the effect on my but will have to see how that goes.

  • olivia218
    olivia218 Member Posts: 257
    edited March 2010

    So the oncologist put me on mega dose of Vitamin D and the side effects are horrible. I am nauseous, headache, loss of appetite, very moody ( I could have cried all day), thirsty - UGH this is tough and that is just Vitamin D. 

    Anyone else with that prescription that can tell me if it goes away soon??

    Olivia 

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