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  • carolinachick
    carolinachick Member Posts: 387
    edited March 2010

    Thanks for the cyber-cake, Elimar!  It was delicious!!

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  • Eph3_12
    Eph3_12 Member Posts: 4,781
    edited March 2010

    I'm stuffed!  What's for dinner?

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  • carollynn79
    carollynn79 Member Posts: 654
    edited March 2010

    Cake was really good, went well with my jelly beans, they are fat free right????

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  • NativeMainer
    NativeMainer Member Posts: 10,462
    edited March 2010

    Jelly beans are definitely fat free, cake CAN be fat free, depending on the recipe and the rules in force at the time.  My favorite rule is that cake that celebrates something has no calories. 

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  • carollynn79
    carollynn79 Member Posts: 654
    edited March 2010

    Since I  am home this week with too much time on my hands cooking is especially in.  Yesterday made homemade pasta sauce which we had with whole grain pasta, homemade bread and rhubarb crunch.  Today I think it will be mushroom sauce swiss steak with mash potato and green beans.Tommorrow my DH and I will go out for lunch when we go back to the doctor, plus the doctor is right next to Lowe's so have to make a Lowe's run of course.

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  • suzwes
    suzwes Member Posts: 1,740
    edited March 2010

    Oh Carol, Can you please send some of that yummy sounding food over to Williamston??  It sounds so good and I absolutely HATE to cook (plus I'm too tuckered after a day at the office).

    Hope the doctor's visit goes well tomorrow.  Enjoy Lowe's????? (DH would enjoy, I sure wouldn't)

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  • Meece
    Meece Member Posts: 19,483
    edited March 2010

    Oh, I love the Lowe's trips.  DH laughs because I get upset if he goes to Harbor Freight without me!

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  • carollynn79
    carollynn79 Member Posts: 654
    edited March 2010

    Oh yes I have my garden supply list, onion sets, radish seeds, twine ties, potting soil.  Did you catch that food Suz, wish I was closer you could come pick it up.

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  • Meece
    Meece Member Posts: 19,483
    edited March 2010

    To bad you don't have a strong arm, that sounds yummy and wouldn't mind catching some myself!

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  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited March 2010

    Hey Middies, here's the sad truth about our struggles with weight and/or middle-aged belly fat.  (Not for the faint of heart of those prone to weeping openly.)

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100323/ap_on_he_me/us_med_middle_aged_spread

    Just when I felt so good about that "walking to prevent recurrent BC" which advised 30 minutes several times a week.  Now this!   I usually only do about 2 miles in 40-45 minutes.  No wonder my belly fat was being so stubborn!  Crap!

    Here's an excerpt:  "You can eat a candy bar in two minutes. Most are at least 200 calories, and to burn that off requires walking for about an hour."

    I can polish off a Hershey bar in under a minute.  Who's crying now?

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  • NativeMainer
    NativeMainer Member Posts: 10,462
    edited March 2010

    OK, if it's SO hard to maintain a "healthy" weight as we age could it be that the definition of "healthy weight" is not biologically correct?  Could it just possibly be that all the ills associated with being overweight are actually caused by the DNA changes that occur over time (aka 'aging")?  Could it just possibly be that some things, like bc and bc recurrences, simply cannot be predicted and/or prevented? 

    I am so tired of the implication that I gave myself bc by being overweight all my life.  What do skinny women do to themselves to give themselves bc?  THAT question is considered absurd, but it logically follows.  If I gave myself bc through my weight, then every woman must give herself bc through one life choice or another, yet that that comment is invariably met with "But nobody knows for sure what starts a cancer."  I wish people would at least be consistent and say "But nobody knows for sure what starts bc EXCEPT that we know that being overweight causes bc."  

    AARRGGHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    (sorry for the rant, that article just pushed one of my buttons this morning)

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  • hmm
    hmm Member Posts: 2,183
    edited March 2010

    NM-- You are so right......... I am not overweight, exercise and eat a healthy diet....

    Pat

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  • suzwes
    suzwes Member Posts: 1,740
    edited March 2010

    Carol - Thanks for the dinner, I caught it and it was delicious!

    Depressing article Elimar but makes me more determined to keep exercising to try to get this belly fat under control.

    NM - maybe we should do a nursing study on this topic - you already have a good start to a hypothesis.

    Hope everyone has a lovely day.

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  • Meece
    Meece Member Posts: 19,483
    edited March 2010

    Not to offend any of our sisters in the nursing profession, but have you ever noticed the preponderance of overweight nurses, especially in hospital situations?  You would think that they are kept hopping enough, and realize the dangers of obesity froma medical standpoint.  I mean, most of us have spent a lot of time around nurses and hospitals and may have noticed this.  I know that a lot of studies follow nurses as the study group.

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  • suzwes
    suzwes Member Posts: 1,740
    edited March 2010

    I have noticed this.  It is very hard to effectively educate regarding health and preventive issues when the doctor, nurse, dietician is not following the same advice.  Although I do have health professional friends who are overweight yet very healthy and follow healthy eating and do exercise consistently. 

    Edited to add, when I am experiencing my overweight periods of life, I am typically NOT eating healthy or exercising consistently.  I guess that shows it's an individual issue???

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  • Meece
    Meece Member Posts: 19,483
    edited March 2010

    My best friends' mother was an RN when we were growing up and she was amazingly obese.  She ended up having the stomach stapling and growing out of that a couple of times.

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  • PauldingMom
    PauldingMom Member Posts: 927
    edited March 2010

    Glad I'm not the only person who has noticed this trend with people of the nursing profession. I think it's because they tend to snack on high calorie foods throughout there shifts, and that they are stop and go, stop and go all day long. Never long enough to get the heart rate up to actually begin to burn more calories. It's my understanding that the first 15 minutes of cardio activities is just to get the heart rate up to speed then you actually start burning calories. I'm trying to extend my workout to 45 minutes instead of 30, but when that ole stop watch goes past 30 I really feel like stopping and saying, "Good enough."

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  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited March 2010

    That article is annoying!!!! To say that most middle age women are overweight is just pure BS!!!  I am thin and have been all my life...even at time of Dx, even though I was at my heaviest, no one was thinking I was over weight.....and I lost 20+ lbs during Tx and everyone was worried about how thin I was....I carry my weight in my tummy and always have even when pregnant....like NM said, if being overweight was the cause, then no thin women would get BC.....how ridiculous for the article to imply that....according to all the things that we are told to do to prevent BC, I did....breastfed my kids...each for over a year....eat healthy, good weight etc, etc, etc and I was still Dx stage 3....The reason we get BC is because we are women and have breasts!!!!  Yes as we age its harder to keep our weight where we want it, but there are lots of thin post menopausal women.....sorry to be on this rant.....I still have trouble seeing myself as middle age, that was always someone older than me!!!! but I've been told I've been middle age for many years....and based on the age posted above thats true....I'm 53 and will be 54 in May....so I guess that means I'm on the down side of middle age and on my way to old age!!!! Gee and I have said lots that I won't get old!!!!

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  • OG56
    OG56 Member Posts: 897
    edited March 2010

    Hmmm belly fat does anyone remember the little french girl that was Bruce Willis gf in Pulp Fiction and she said she would "love to have a pot belly"? Well I bet she has one now LOL

    When I was a nurse working Orthopaedics and Mental Health , I was just right because I was so busy, but there is alot of junkfood and gifts of candy laying around. I think we can find overweight men and women in about any career. However, my sisters cardiologist is overweight and smokes!!!!!!!

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  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited March 2010

    OmahaGirl, good point about the "gifts."  On my rads thread, a lot of the ladies brought in a treat for the staff on their last day of treatment.  I DID TOO (some mini-muffins.)  In going there five days a week, I would say I saw gift snacks at the nurse station at least three days a week, and who knows what they moved back into their break room?  We can't have it both ways, noticing the nurse poundage AND bringing in the baked goods.  It's hard to say no if it's on the counter every day of the week. 

    I imagine night shift nurses and night workers in general really have a tough time.  When you start to fatigue, and you can't sleep, your body is looking for energy and your hunger kicks in.  Which, by the way, there were recent studies/articles that linked not getting enough rest to being overweight for the reason I just mentioned.

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  • NativeMainer
    NativeMainer Member Posts: 10,462
    edited March 2010

    I have noticed that many of my professional sisters are heavy to obese.  There are some good points made here. The activity level is not enough to get and keep your heartrate up in the burning calories area. Treats are commonly available, and nurses don't like to offend or imply any lack of grattitude by declining food treats when patients bring them in.  Add to that the fact that we don't often get to take regular meal breaks leads to a lot of snacking on anything quick and easy which is also usually high calorie/low nutritional value.  Then there's the healthcare culture which says that it's ok to stop for a few minutes to eat, but not to smoke or go to the bathroom, and you have incentive to eat to get a break.  Nurses are not good at taking care of ourselves, it's plain and simple.  It's true I do know how to eat healthily (and usually do) and how much exercise I should get (but don't get routinely) and I'm still obese.  I know I use food as a comfort, which is a bad thing, but giving up food as comfort is sooo hard.  And I really hate feeling hungry.  oh, well. 

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  • carollynn79
    carollynn79 Member Posts: 654
    edited March 2010

    Hi to all Middies, had a very frustrating day.  I got the pathology results back today and the thyroid was cancerous, they say they removed it all, it was encapsulated so had not spread to any lymph nodes, how much does that suck to have been diagnosed with 2 differnt cancers in one year, wonder what I did or did not do but....  Treatment is the surgery which is done and then hormone replacement for life and yearly tests to monitor, will find out more next week when I see the surgeon. It messes with my mind I wonder what next.   I am heavy and have been for a lot of my life, I eat well but too much.  I am commited to working harder at getting more exercise, eating better with less junk. 

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  • Meece
    Meece Member Posts: 19,483
    edited March 2010

    Carollynn, I am sorry to hear that you got a double-whammy!  Let's just pray that they did get it all, and it is now behind you.

    (((((hugs)))))

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  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited March 2010
    Carolyn79, "encapsulated so had not spread" is GOOD news.  Thank God for that!  Still, that is a lot to deal with in one lifetime, let alone one year.  So sorry the beast reared it's ugly head once again!
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  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited March 2010

    this story was just on the news and they showed an interview with Nancy Snyderman from this morning and she had issues with the study....she said they left out 2 things that women do....housework and gardening....she also said that our mothers didn't have a gym,  carried babies on their hips and ate when they were hungry....Yeah Nancy....

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  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited March 2010

    Carolyn....just read your post after I posted...sorry that you are having to deal with this....

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  • Eph3_12
    Eph3_12 Member Posts: 4,781
    edited March 2010

    Carolyn-encapsulated is a good word! Be strong, as always!

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  • NativeMainer
    NativeMainer Member Posts: 10,462
    edited March 2010

    carollyn {{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}

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  • suzwes
    suzwes Member Posts: 1,740
    edited March 2010

    Carollynn,

    I'm thinking of you and you're in my prayers.  So sorry this happened to you but am so glad it was encapsulated and hadn't spread.

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  • PauldingMom
    PauldingMom Member Posts: 927
    edited March 2010

    Carolyn- Stay Strong. You are bigger than cancer. 

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