MARCH 2010 Rads Group

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  • c2will
    c2will Member Posts: 91
    edited March 2010

    Hi everyone,

    I had the first treatment yesterday.  It was very quick - it took longer for the technicians to line me up then the actual 'zapping'.  I packed up my supplies to bring (Lansonoh cream, Tom's of Maine deodorant) the night before, and left them home on the dining room table.  Lansonoh is a product used by nursing mothers, this is the product that the nurse recommended.  You have to soften it a little before applying, then pat it on your breast.  It feels a little sticky, but not as heavy as Aquaphor.  I'm hoping this keeps the SEs to a minimum. 

    1 down, 32 to go. 

  • Sugar77
    Sugar77 Member Posts: 2,138
    edited March 2010

    ManyNY - welcome to our group.  As most of your treatments will be in March, hopefully you'll contrinue to post and share with us. Good luck today.

    Jojo - I've been cranky here, too.  I think it is the hormones...or lack of from "chemopause."

    Have a great day ladies!

    Sherri 

  • June2268
    June2268 Member Posts: 1,202
    edited March 2010

    Hello ladies I will be joining you all as well......I go in for simulation this Friday the 5th and was told I start immediately after that, so not sure if that means Monday or not and I go in for a total of 30 treatment with 5 boosts.....I will keep you all posted and thank you Sherri for starting this thread as I really think the support from all here will help! 

  • cabmom
    cabmom Member Posts: 388
    edited March 2010

    June2268, looks like you and I are going for simulation on the same day.  Unfortunately, I won't be able to start until Wednesday because of my final medical onc visit.  I'm also scheduled for 30 total with 5 boosts on the last five. 

    Haven't been told about wearing a specific deodorant during rad's but I was told about emu oil.  Have any of you heard of this?  Are any of you using it?  I'm fair complected so not sure if that will be a factor in how my skin will react.....just hoping for the best.  Also, what is the deal with the deodorant.....just curious! 

  • c2will
    c2will Member Posts: 91
    edited March 2010

    Cabmom,

    I've seen various answers on the Rads boards regarding deodorant.  Some centers say NO deodorant during treatment, while others recommend deodorants with no aluminum.  The nurse at my treatment center recommended deodorant with no aluminum such as Toms of Maine, or Crystal.

    I had my second treatment today, and got good news.  It turns out that I will be having the Canadian fraction, which means 16 days of 'regular' treatments instead of 25.  The doctor still has to determine how many boosts, but I'm thrilled to get nine days back!

  • Sugar77
    Sugar77 Member Posts: 2,138
    edited March 2010

    c2will - I was told no deordorant at my cancer centre.  I'm in Canada and I will probably get 16 but it could be more.  I won't know until next week when I have the simulation. Will you be getting boosts?I'm getting 5 boosts.  They said because of my age  (I'm almost 46, which I don't consider all that young).  

    Sherri 

  • cabmom
    cabmom Member Posts: 388
    edited March 2010

    c2will, thanks for the info on deodorant and congrats on getting 9 days back :)!

  • c2will
    c2will Member Posts: 91
    edited March 2010

    Sugar,

    Yes, I will be getting boosts, most likely 8.  The oncologist is reviewing my case again to determine how many.  I think he may want to be more aggressive since I am grade 3.  I am 55, so I don't know how much age factors into the decision.

  • June2268
    June2268 Member Posts: 1,202
    edited March 2010

    Sherri....I cannot believe you are almost 46.....in you pic you look around 30 ish.....

  • TreadSoftly
    TreadSoftly Member Posts: 192
    edited March 2010

    Hi Girls,

    Sherri, like June2268 I am also shocked that you are only 45 - you look much younger in your pic!

    Had first of 33 sessions today, it went well.  I was in and out of the hospital in the space of 15 mins - 10 mins of this was explaining what they would do and setting me up in the correct position. 

    I was also told NO deodorant or shaving under the arms for the duration of treatment.  I finished chemo 30th Dec and unfortunately the hair under my arms is growing like crazy again so this may be an issue!  Found a 'Jason' natural organic aloe vera deodorant that does not contain any alluminium so may use this.......  Started dolloping on the E45 cream tonight too! 

  • MarieK
    MarieK Member Posts: 911
    edited March 2010

    Hi All!

    I had my second session today and it is going well.  Just a little pink & tender along the collar bone but my skin is very sensitve there.

    So far I'm just moisturizing the area with Lubriderm because that's what my rad tech advised me to use right away.  She said that if needed we'll go to something else but we'll start with this.

    Like someone else posted - it takes longer for them to position me than it does to actually get zapped. I may end up with another tattoo for positioning if needed - I'm not thrilled about that - so they are using marker for now.

    Right now it's taking about 20 minutes but they are taking x-rays just before my radiation.  They are doing that for the first 3 days and then it will speed up a bit and only take 10-12 minutes.  Anyone else having 3 days of x-rays before their radiation?

    I'm having a total of 28 radiation sessions.  I was offered 3 1/2 weeks (18 sessions) but opted for the longer 5 1/2 weeks of lower dose radiation after it was explained to me that I can have better skin results for reconstruction with the lower dose. We'll see how that works out!

    My treatment centre also said NO to any kind of deodorant but luckily I haven't needed any since I'm still hairless under my arms and not sweating (I'm 6 weeks PFC).

    Good luck to all and happy zapping!

    Mare

  • June2268
    June2268 Member Posts: 1,202
    edited March 2010

    Mare, Glad to hear it going well so far.....your collar bone is red, they radiate that much of the breast area?  I was hoping that it would not be noticeable with clothing on, so I am a little surprised to hear that the collar bone is affected!  My breast surgeon out here tells me that they cannot reconstruct the radiated breast and I am hearing from people all over the world how they can.....I am saddened by this as I thought about my choice and now I am considerably smaller and sooooo  noticeable and I assumed it time we could work on it, not work on the other side to make it smaller......Cry.

    Thanks for the updates and please keep them coming!  I go in Friday for simulation!

  • txstardust
    txstardust Member Posts: 599
    edited March 2010

    June, I think you should look around for a breast surgeon that is experienced in working on irradiated tissue.  They are definitely out there.  I'm also looking into reconstruction of my smaller breast.  I talked to a plastic surgeon that I know, he said there are procedures like fat transfer that can be done, as long as you don't want to go too much bigger.  I'll probably have a bit of a reduction on my "good" side, and some fat transfer into the smaller boob, to make them match.  He did say to wait at least a year after radiation to give the skin time to recover.  Don't give up, if you want recon I know you can find someone who is skilled enough to do it!

    I'm having simulation on Friday also, as well as a CT scan.  I don't know if they do x-rays, i'll tell you when i get started Marie!  

    Peace to all... 

  • c2will
    c2will Member Posts: 91
    edited March 2010

    Treatment #3 today.  I had an Xray yesterday, but no other days.  No major SEs so far, just a little itching.  I will also have bloodwork tomorrow.  They explained that I would have bloodwork in the first and last week of treatment.

  • Mommaof2
    Mommaof2 Member Posts: 112
    edited March 2010

    June -   I was surprised (and very dismayed) to hear from my radiation ONC that if I were to have a recurrence( and had to have a mastectomy), after having had radiation treatments, that it would be much more difficult to have reconstruction done.  I wish I would have know that when I decided to have a lumpectomy - I might have chosen to have a mastectomy instead. It seems like I didn't get all the information I needed in the beginning to make the most informed decision or perhaps I heard only what I wanted to hear.    

  • June2268
    June2268 Member Posts: 1,202
    edited March 2010

    Hi mommaof2....OMG I feel so much better hearing you say that as I felt like that too and even said to my husband "did I understand them right?" and he said YES as my husband was with me on all my appointments and only after the 1st lumpectomy did I find out that you could not work on a radiated breast....I was also made to believe through the many conversations about reconstructive surgery that they were talking about my cancer breast not the FINE breast.....I wish they were more clear, so I am sure you heard them right and they misled you as that is EXACTLY how I feel MISLED.......That is also the 1st I have heard about a mastectomy after radiation and not being able to do reconstructive surgery.....ARGH!!!!!  I am pretty bitter about it, because I too have even blogged about this as I probably would have done something more like a mastectomy because looking at me now is not so pretty as they took out 18 cm's of tissue........and now I am stuck like this for some time......

  • Sugar77
    Sugar77 Member Posts: 2,138
    edited March 2010

    My lumpectomy was classified as "non cancer" surgery after a benign biopsy. The invasive tumor was a surprise to everyone, including the surgeon.  Therefore, I didn't really get the choice of a mastectomy upfront. All I can do is think positive for no recurrence making any kind of reconstruction unnecessary in the future!!

    Sherri 

  • Mommaof2
    Mommaof2 Member Posts: 112
    edited March 2010

    June - My radiation ONC also told me that if I ever did have to have a mastectomy that they would have to use fat from my back or stomach (ick) - did your surgeon mention that option to you?  I had a much, much smaller amount taken during my lumpectomy, so it's not noticeable except to me (and my husband) I guess I'm just dwelling on the "what if" aspect too much and I just need to try not to worry about a recurrence. BUT, if I knew then what I know now my decision would have been a lot different. 

    Good luck with your simulation Friday - I hope all goes well.

    Sherri - You are so right about keeping a positive attitude about recurrence - I have been in such a funk this week that it is hard to keep a positive attitude.  I definetly need to work on that!

    Liz

  • 3monstmama
    3monstmama Member Posts: 1,447
    edited March 2010

    I'm sorry so many people feel they didn't get complete information.  I must say, both plastic surgeons and the breast surgeon I ended up with and the radiation oncologist said no implants with radiated tissue because it won't stretch which means, by default, a bigger procedure.  [1st surgeon was rather vague on the issue which was what sent me off to talk to others in the first place]  That was actually part of the issue that lead me to the second breast surgeon because PS#1 said if I was in to see him for reconstruction post-lumpectomy and radiation, something had gone wrong.  He also said that while some doctors do implants with radiation, the results are very unpredictable because you don't know how badly the skin will react to the rads and you can't always predict by looking.  He said because he has not been happy with results, he won't do it.

    I debated alot with myself between mastectomy and lumpectomy for the very reason of reconstruction issues--it was part of why I sought so many opinions and took 2+ months to decide on what to do.  In the end I decided that I would think positive about the outcome and go with the lesser surgery.  

    If I have a reoccurance [GFB] I think I will join the groups of women who don't bother with reconstruction.  I was never that "attached" to my boobs [thats why I couldn't see doing all the surgery and the lengthy recovery to replace them] and my husband doesn't care.  Heck, one might say I am recreating my teen years by stuffing a sock in my bra to even things out!

  • Nipi
    Nipi Member Posts: 38
    edited March 2010

    Hello Ladies!

    I'm Nicole and I just graduated from the DCIS forumSmile. I will meet with the rad onc on Thursday, and hope to start rads at the end of march..

    I'm sooo over this butcher,and robber called cancer, and ready to move on. Looking forward to sharing stories and connecting with some new "Breast Friends"

  • June2268
    June2268 Member Posts: 1,202
    edited March 2010

    I like the way you put that....WELCOME!!!!!

  • Hoolianama0508
    Hoolianama0508 Member Posts: 162
    edited March 2010

    I started my rads this Monday and so far so good. I drive myself to the appointments. I get to keep my tissue expanders since the radiation oncologist wants to protect my heart and removing them would delay the treatment.

    I bought this pure Aloe gel from GNC which I put on my skin after my sessions. I hope everyone will do well with their treatments.

  • ATeamNana
    ATeamNana Member Posts: 464
    edited March 2010

    Had my first rad today....Got my tatoos...32 to go!

    So far so good!

  • MarieK
    MarieK Member Posts: 911
    edited March 2010

    #3 done and 25 more to go!

    I see my plastic surgeon on Friday and both my radiation oncologist and surgeon tell me that I can have implants after radiation.

    The plastic surgeon I'm seeing does NOT do micro surgery (flap surgery) and he knows that I am having radiation.

    I will let you know what he says about implants after radiation. 

    I have also read that there is better success with implants after radiation if you wait for the skin and tissue to heal (my radiation oncologist said no surgery until 6 weeks after radiation - I'll be finished April 9th) but I was going to wait until at least the fall!

  • Sugar77
    Sugar77 Member Posts: 2,138
    edited March 2010

    What kind of cream is everyone who's already started using?  Mine rads onc said to buy Glaxo cream and the nurse said it's cheaper at Costco. Is anyone using Glaxo?

    Sherri 

  • MaryNY
    MaryNY Member Posts: 1,584
    edited March 2010

    The cream/lotion recommendations seem to vary from one onc to the next. Mine said Aloe Vera Gel and cornstarch in the fold under the breast. I think the idea is to keep that area as dry as possible to reduce the risk of burning or blistering. I'm glad to be having radiation in the colder months, as during the summer the area in the "underhang" gets so sweaty. Onc also said no underwire bras and preferably not to wear any bra as the band at the bottom tends to trap sweat. I've been wearing camisoles.

    Had Tx #7 today of 33.

  • 3monstmama
    3monstmama Member Posts: 1,447
    edited March 2010

    I was told cornstarch and calendula lotion and something prescription but I don't remember the name and don't have my notes.

    I am keeping my fingers crossed for all of you doing rads and hoping for implants.  I am just too big a coward Surprised to deal with more procedures.

    here's hoping we all come through with success!

  • cabmom
    cabmom Member Posts: 388
    edited March 2010

    I was told to use emu oil....has anyone else been told this?  I do simulation tomorrow and start rads next week....

  • TreadSoftly
    TreadSoftly Member Posts: 192
    edited March 2010

    I was told to use E45 cream or else aloe vera gel (100%). 

    I put on the E45 every morning and evening and use the aloe vera gel if I go for a run or after I have a swim  - really hope I can keep up doing these activities as the treatment progresses!!

    MarieK - I have got x-rays prior to treatment too for the past 3 days.  The therapists tell me from now on it will only be once a week I will be x-rayed.....

    3 over, 30 to go!!

  • april2010
    april2010 Member Posts: 21
    edited March 2010

    Hi Everyone, I recognize some of you from other threads. I started my rads today. I had the simulation yesterday. Took about three hours. Also had a CT scan. They did do x rays today and will do them tomorrow also. Something to do with making sure of alligment. Then once a week after that. I am using x Clair lotion. New stuff. Don't know how it will work yet?  I will see the doctor once a week until I am done. I was nervous about doing the rads but I forged ahead. I just don't want this to come back ever again, so I decided to go ahead with it. They are not radiating any lymph nodes at all. None under my arm or in the collar bone area or chest area. This is because I did not have any lymph node involvement. After my first treatment today I felt a little head ache and stomach ache, but it may be my nerves and anxiety. I am not nervous about having the rads I guess I am more worried about the long term side effects. I am sure that it will pass. I will probably quit worring about it further down the road after this is all over. I am so sorry that any of us have to go through this awful experience. It certainly is life changing. I hope the best for all of you and I look forward to reading your posts and I will chime in from time to time.

    I will be 67 this year and I hope to live to be at least 90! I have to see all my grandkids grow up and have children. You know, I want to be a great grandma. I wish a long life and a good outcome for all of you. We will make it through this I just know it!!!! A little quote for you all. "The Secret of Happiness is love" J. Donald Walters.

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