March 2010 Chemo Start
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Hello All My March 2010 Sisters,
I'm stopping by from the March 2007 group (yep 3 years and doing well...enjoying life). I want to wish you all encouragement ...you can do this!!!!
It is definitely not a walk in the park but the anticipation of chemo was the worse part for me. I was so frigthened and once you have your first treatment you realize that you can do it. If you are getting the Big A you should know that you will pee red for a couple of times....nothing to worry about...very normal. I had a port and never used any cream or anything and never had a problem just a little stick. I will say the hair loss was very tramatic for me ...the loss part was hard the bald part was not so bad...and it does grow back. I did TAC x 6, herceptin for a year and have been on arimidex for 2 1/2 years.
Be gentle with yourself, accept help when offered and don't be afraid to ask questions. This board is a wonderful souce of information and support. I would be happy to answer any questions that you may have, just PM me.
{{{{Hugs}}}} to you,
Nancy
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Thank you so much Nancy ... I've been trying to avoid the horror stories and focusing on the positives. I know each person is so different, so I am anxious to get this train going.
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SandieK9 - when do you start your treatment?
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Sandiek9: Welcome to our March group. Sorry that you have to join us, but here we are...all in the same boat, good that we are together.
Groundhog: thank you for the well wishes for the upcoming week. It'll be good to get started, feels like I've been waiting so long!
Good luck to staceyt and Frosty1....hope your "day #1" goes smoothly.
staceyt: are you starting Decadron tomorrow a.m.?
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If you haven't already, check out the chemo shopping list on the starting chemo thread. It has a lot of good advice. I have my list of questions for the doc on Wednesday. Got my blanket and my water ready to go. Gotta start with my water today so I can be well sloshed by Wednesday. I keep thinking of "lasts" -- this was my "last" weekend before chemo, etc. Trying to change my thought pattern to firsts ... that sounds so much more positive.
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Just popping in from the Feb 2010 board. March is here, and you ladies will do fine! When you read through the shopping list/chemo bag/side effect lists, keep in mind that these lists are made to be comprehensive and it aims to cover everything POSSIBLE. You are more than likely to experience only a few of the most common SEs. Be prepared but certainly no need to be in the paranoid mode. I promise you that once your first treatment is over your mind will be much more at ease - the wait will be over and you'll know what happens to YOUR body and how you can deal with it. And should you have any questions this board is the BEST source of information and support.
I'd be happy to answer any questions any time - I'm only two treatment ahead of you so my memory is fresh :-) Best of luck and you CAN do it!
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Ok I have a question, has anyone experienced a "bitchy" (can I type that?) or crabbiness close to your start day and how about hot flashes? I am 44 yrs old and still menstruating not sure where the flashes are coming from
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Frosty1: Do you know how much hydrating we should we be doing? I've been drinking water and have my SE fighting gear (from that shopping list) but I'm wondering if you know of an estimate of the amount of water/liquid we should be shooting for pre-chemo and what about after chemo?
staceyt: its' hard to say about feeling b*tchy... I'm guessing that the stress combined with lack of decent sleep, for me, anyway, has something to do with it? Also, I had my ovaries out, along with my dbmx, so I've been sweating for a few weeks now. Not so much a "flash", just sort of feel warmish, whereas I used to be freezing all the time. Are you all set for tomorrow? We have the same start and same cocktail. Yeah for us : ) Are you going back the next day for Neulasta shot? Hope all goes well for you.
faithfulc: thanks for the words of wisdom. I've been reading you on the Feb. thread..glad you all seem to be doing okay over there. Its' s so encouraging.
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EZH -- no one has really said how much water, but say to drink the recommended daily 8 glasses +. You want to flush the chemo out of your system and being well hydrated going in and continuing to drink water while going through and the day or 2 after made a difference.
Faithfulc -- thanks for your support! and you are absolutely right ... the worst thing is waiting to see how our bodies react. I'm trying not to read some of the horror stories (just like childbirth) and focusing on the common themes.
Off for one last round of sushi!
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Most of the advice I've found online about fluid intake during chemo say between 3 and 4 quarts a day, which translated into 8-ounce glasses would be between 12 and 16. The problem is the definition of how much a "glass" of water is -- do they mean an 8-oz glass or a 12-oz one or what?
I was told to super-hydrate in the days before my surgery and so doubled my intake from 1 quart (4 eight-oz glasses) a day to at least 2 (which would be the recommended normal 8 glasses). Since then I've worked myself up to 3 qts a day which is 12 glasses. I found the easiest way to do it is to set a timer to go off once an hour, and at that point I drink half of a Poland Spring water bottle which is as close to 8 oz as to make no difference! It's also easy to carry along with me if I go out or even just around the house so it's always at hand. Drinking six of those bottles spaced out between 9 am and 9 pm gives me the 12 glasses a day. When I asked my oncologist about water intake and said that I'm already drinking 3 quarts a day she said that was plenty, but on the treatment day and the two days after, I'm going to add at least 2 glasses to that, to bring it up to 3 1/2 qts. -
Gah! I better get cracking. That is a lot of water.
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Staceyt -- GOOD LUCK TODAY! Sending all my wishes your way. I'm right behind you tomorrow morning.
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Frosty1: good luck tomorrow a.m. Hope it goes smoothly!
Staceyt: did you get #1 done today? How was it?
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Hi ladies, sending well wishes your way. Had my pre-chemo haircut this afternoon. It looks OK
but that was a hunk o'hair that went to Locks of Love! {{hugs}}
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Frosty1 and Staceyt: Sending tons of good thoughts your way!
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Hi all, This is the first time I am posting although I have been reading on this forum since my diagnosis in Dec 09. I had bil mastectomy in Jan and am scheduled to start chemo next week-4 rounds of AC and then 4 rounds of Taxol. Radiation ?
I really appreciate this thread for March 2010 chemo start group. I wish all you ladies good luck and look forward to sharing my experience as well as learning from yours.
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Good Morning All,
Frosty1 - sending Hugs to you today with prayers all day!! Next, Thank you all for the well wishes and prayers for my 1st treatment yesterday. I took my Dexamethason the day before and ended up with a Hugh headache. Took my Dex again yesterday along w/Emend and off to the hospital.(Headache still in tow) Arrive at 8:15am get right into a room and the process starts. Here is a little bit of info for those of you who haven't started (and remember everyone has different experiences). No matter that I drank half of a lake in the last 3 days to "pump" my veins it did not help. The first Nurse tried and blew my vein, so we brought in a 2nd Nurse and an Ultra sound machine to help locate a good vein. She tried blew the vein, 3rd times a charm right, wrong hit a nerve in my hand and I thought I was going to jump right out of my chair. I was just about ready to loose it and let the tears come but I held my own, also helped having DH and Mom there). The discussion of a Pic Line was started and explained ( I don't recall reading anywhere here on the boards about a Pic Line) and the decision was made to have it done so that I don't have to go thru this every time. I have very small veins and no amount of water would work for me. So 45 minutes later, Pic Line in, X-Ray taken to make sure not in my Jugular vein and off we go (again) Hydration bag first followed by Cytoxan, followed by 2 pills, tagamet and benadryl and then Taxotere, all done 7- 1/2 hours later. Back today to get my Neulasta today. Over all I feel fine, a little dizzy - light headed - No nausea, and slightly tired. I was informed that Now I have to drink the water and it's was suggested at least 3 quarts a day. I'm sorry so long winded just wanted to relay my experience for my first treatment. Again Thank you all and for those of you just joining WELCOME you will find this board very educational and the women are all heart felt and concern even though we are miles and miles away. Stacey
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Staceyt Thanks for sharing your exp, I am sorry to read about the pain that you had-I will pray that you have minimal SE because of the chemo. Can you tell us more about the pic line? How it was placed, maintenance etc. My Onc has suggested that I go for the regular IV type for the first chemo and based on my exp will see if I need port to be installed. Honestly I am not looking forward to more surgery to place the port, plus I have tissue expanders placed so I want to avoid more areas that could be potentially sore. Your input will be greatly appreciated
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Hi, everyone. I had my port placement surgery this morning and I will start 6 rounds of TCH (Taxotere, Carboplatin and Herceptin) this Friday, March 5th. I haven't read all the posts here yet, but will start immediately after posting this introduction.
Regards,
Anne Marie
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Hello Sarikasd, the answer to your question about the pic line is that because my veins were so small they couldn't find one large enough to be able to push all the chemo thru, Therefore, she used a long slender small flexible tube inserted into the peripheral vein in the upper arm and advanced until the catheter tip ends up into a large vein in the chest near the heart for intravenous access. It will stay in my arm for the next 4 months, I have to go in once a week and have the site cleaned and re-taped, but as far as I could see it was the lesser of 2 evils w/having to post pone the treatments while I have surgery for a port. This line will be used for everything, it is where they will draw my blood and give me the chemo treatment. I don't have to worry about any more needles for awhile. Hope this helps and Welcome - Stacey
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Stacey -- sorry to hear about your adventures with the veins. That was why I decided to do the port last week. My veins are small and roll. It sounds like your day was uneventful after that.
I had my port put in last THursday, so it was still tender. The nurse was great - numbed up the area (why does a numbing shot hurt?), then put in the port needle, flushed the port, then pulled two vials of blood. Waited an hour for the blood work to come back. Met with the doctor to review my page of questions (avoid soy and large quantities of anti-oxidants; red wine is okay; add B6 to vitamin regime). Then waited for the 'orders' to come through. Took 8 pills (2 anti-nauseau; benadryl; tylenol; anti-anxiety; steriod). Waited 30 minutes, then started the Herceptin. Slow drip for first 30 minutes to check for reactions. None. Yippee! Increased drip. If you are doing Herceptin, they "load" you your first round, which means 8 mg and a large bag. Next drip will be 6mg and will only take 30 minutes. Then Taxotere. Again, slow drip for first 15 minutes; no reactions; so 90 minutes. Then wrap up with Carboplatin. That is pushed fast - 30 minutes. No reaction. Flush port. Go home. Nurse told me to continue to drink lots of water, especially for the Carboplatin. Took small snacks, so snacked my way through the day. Just feel very tired and woozy from the pills. Have my 4 meds to take -- 2 tonight before bed; 2 more in the morning; nurse recommended adding one more anti-nauseau to the mix and then if I need more add the last one. And take one of the anti-anxiety/anti-nauseau meds before bed.
So -- feeling okay. We'll see how tomorrow goes. I cried my way through the morning. Doctor and nurse all very calm and helpful. Once I started, I was fine. Now keep my log of reactions and take my temperature every morning.
Welcome to the new normal!
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stacyt & frosty1 - thanks for checking in and letting us know how you are, glad you got through #1. EZH - hope you are doing OK!! Anne Marie - best wishes for Friday! sarikasd - welcome to a club you never wanted to join.
lovemygarden - love your new tag line! Murphys Law of Chemo SE Management: "If you don't have something on hand, you will need it exactly when you cannot go out and get it." Corollary: "If you buy it in advance, you will end up not needing it at all."
If that's the case, I'm loading up on supplies this weekend! LOL {{hugs}}
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Hello everyone and welcome to our new friends...sorry you have to join us Sarikasd.
My first day was yesterday and it was, thank goodness, uneventful. Took about 3 hours to get the benedryl/taxotere/cytoxin in and then, that was it. Went back today and had the Neulasta shot. Now I feel like I"m "waiting" for the s/e's. I'm taking the last of my decadron and another few doses of compazine and then, hope for the best!
Thank you everyone for being so open and supportive, really does make a difference.
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stacyt and frosty1: So happy to hear that your first one went okay! Stacyt, what a PITA about the veins. :-( I opted to get the port during my BMX since I already knew I was HER2+ and thus would be getting the Herceptin.
groundhog: Glad you like the new tagline! I figured that if there wasn't already a Murphy's Law for chemo, it's high time there should be! ;-)
EZH: I'm curious as to why you had the Neulasta starting with your very first treatment; did they already know your WBC/neutrophils were low? I thought Neulasta was only given if/when needed according to your bloodwork, and not prophylactically. -
I asked my doctor about Neulasta and he said only about 20% of people really need it. Since my blood work was really good, they were going to wait and see. I go on March 15 for my 'nadir' (meaning low point) blood work and that will tell if I will need a Neulasta shot after my next chemo. Feeling amazingly fine today which almost has me worried ... when will the other SE drop??? And Groundhog -- I did by everything! The nurses laughed that I brought my sherpa with me yesterday aka DH. I had a bag with my cancer notebook, kleenex, gum, variety of snacks, book, knitting, he had his laptop case, I had a small cooler with small snacks and ginger ale. I'm glad I had them. I didn't use everything, but I know I will probably need it as we go. The nurse said it was the Carboplatin that really built up on the SEs, so fine the first one, but later ones could be worse. Oh goody. I'm ging out for a walk this morning while I feel good!
Best to all of you that round out this week!
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frosty, I think the incidence of Neulasta also depends on whether someone is getting TC (Taxotere + Carboplatin) or just weekly Taxol alone (as I will be). Supposedly there is less likelihood of needing it with the weekly Taxol than with the 6 rounds of TC(H). Three people I know who had the Taxotere x 6 ended up needing Neulasta at least once, but the other person I know who did my regimen (Taxol weekly) did not. Probably due to the lower taxane dosage in the weekly schedule?
Neulasta is SOOO expensive too. That's one reason of several why I opted for the T+H rather than the TCH. I'm uninsured and so the prospect of those $6000-$9000 for each injection is something I definitely wanted to avoid if at all possible! -
Hello Ladies and thank you for welcoming me. I hope Forsty, Staceyt and EZH are doing well.
Thank you Staceyt for the input on Pic line, My round #1 is scheduled for 3/1, I will surely ask my Onc about it then. I have also been asked to take Neulasta shot after every round of AC.
AnneMarie Good luck for tomorrow
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lovemygarden - Neulasta is 6K to 9K PER SHOT? Holy cr*p! That's outrageous!!
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Whoa...had no idea that the Neulasta shot was sooo expensive! Surely hope my insurance is going to cover that! My onc. does give the Neulasta preventatively and I'm schedueld to get one after each TC. I thought that this was standard, apparently not!
Does anyone else that started this week feel a little spacey in the head? Feels hard to focus and think straight. Wondering if its my imagination or if "chemo" brain can really kick on this fast??
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Ann Marie: hope you have an easy time tomorrow...will think good thoughts for you.
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