Triple Negative Breast Cancer and Chemotherapy
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bg6- If you feel like ranting rant away thats what we are here for. Sometimes it feels better to type it and leave it on the screen. I hope all goes well for you tomorrow. It can be confusing at times..is someone going with you tomorrow? I am an extremely independant person but I have to admit it's often better to have an extra set of ears with you. You might want to think of some questions to ask and write those down.
Waiting to find out which direction you are headed is hard..but we are here for you. So keep us posted.
How are you doing with your recovery from your masectomy? I had one in july.
What do you coach?
Thanks carolina I am sure the biopsy is going sting a bit but at this point my mind is set in fighting mode. So mind over matter plus I am bringing my 13 year olds ipod and I know it just takes a minute. The last one I had before my dx they took from 3 places this time only 1. So I was mad about that yesterday cuz it only takes about 10 minutes..just do it already!!!!
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I'm a triple negative that has tested positive for both BRAC mutations, so basically I'm doomed! lol I am so sorry to read about the fear and hopelessness that some of you are having! None of you are toast and you CAN beat this disease!!! My first diagnosis was in 1999, had a lumpectomy, rads, AC chemo and they took all my nodes on that side. I was recently diagnosed with a new cancer in the same breast and had a double mastectomy 2 weeks ago. will be starting chemo soon as part of a study on triple negs If anyone wants contact info on the study, let me know and I will post it. Anyway, I just want to say that your mental state in fighting this crap is more important than anything. It's essential that you KNOW you can beat this and that you keep a sense of humor about it. Yeah, it's scary, especially for those of us that are genetically programmed before birth to be breast cancer patients, and yeah, the treatments can suck big time, but my motto the first time around was "it beats the other option", which is just giving in to the disease. This time around my motto is "death is NOT an option". So hang on ladies for the ride of your lives, but know that at the end you will get off this roller coaster!!!! You ALL are in my prayers!
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bg6 - I agree that having an extra set of ears with you is very beneficial. The information can be so overwhelming and come at you so quickly that our shell-shocked minds can't quite grasp all of it. And know that if you have chemo (which is standard for most TN's) that it is do-able. I had four rounds of taxotere and cytoxan last year and was able to keep working almost full-time. If you're a teacher and can afford to not coach this spring, I would recommend that. I work in a school district office and am only around adults all day, not kids, but I was pretty worn out at the end of the day.
justpayton - I completely understand the impatience about having to come back for the procedure. It's like, "I'm already here, let's just do it NOW!" The ipod is a great idea, although I'm not sure the music my kids like would actually soothe me! LOL!
lilac - Great words of encouragement from someone who's been there! I hate that you're having to do this again. Since you're BRAC positive, will you also have an ooph?
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Hello TN sisters,
Yes I echo Lilac we are not doomed! It may seem tough but there is much progress being made and we're finally getting the attention we deserve. Although many Doc. still don't know how to treat us (my former included). We just have to persevere, get educated, ask questions and be up on everything.
I've just been accepted in a clinical study also for TN's (The PARP inhibitor) Are you in that one Lilac? I'm also BRCA1+, did 8 rounds of AC/T, had lumpectomy then after finding out I was BRAC1+ was going to have bilateral when recurrence struck w/ mets in skin (IBC? & very large tumor) I did 4 rounds of Ixempra & Xoleda to no avail and had DMX in 12/09. Now I'm starting Carbo & Gemz in the PARP study today. My bc is still localized Amen but it has indeed been a battle. (Not to mention getting approved by my ins & study).
God willing the protocal and standard of treatment for all TN's will change. The PARP inhibitor may be the key. It fractures the single strand DNA for replication (We gene positive folks have strong PARP enzymes for DNA reproduction).
BTW, I'm also having the Oooph. I was to have it this month but didn't want to do anything to void me from the study.
Like my pastor has said, "This too shall pass".
Stay strong sisters.
God Bless,
Jeannine
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bgf,
The first thing I did when I learned I was having chemo was to take my name off the substitute teacher's list. Between the fatigue and the hair loss it was the right choice for me. I had a pretty easy time of chemo, but I was still glad I did not have to manage kids.
Recently, I just signed up to be a Teacher Naturalist at a local Nature Center. I'm still getting my strength back but am looking forward to being able to work with kids and critters again on a schedule of my choosing.
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THanks to all who have found the time to talk to me. I coach high school girls soccer in Iowa. (-18 degrees with wind chill today!) Right now we are battling with admin due to evey school in $ crunches to even have assistant coaches! I built this program from the bottom up. It will be hard to step away. Not sure what I will be advised, medically, about timing of my chemo and this situation. As of right now, they were watiing for all the info before responding to my questions before. I know that the weather and kids and etc.. may be a risk for me during chemo. I'm partially there, mentally, to step aside, but I don't have a replacement yet. I work pt as a office mgr for my husbands real estate office, so not being there during the day is doable.
Im recovering from my mastectomy pretty well - had a bout w/stomach pains - stress related and/or codine related - my family doc helped there, but feeling much better today. Get all my test results tomorrow. Scared, but ready to find out what's ahead. Need to know so I can make decisions.
I'll keep you posted - Im sure I'll have more questions. THANKS EVERYONE!
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bg6..don't know if it helps or not but I had chemo dd ac and taxol beginning end of April last year..I worked..(in an office)...before and after chemo..my son was a senior last year and was involved in track..we had track (almost made it to state)..plus graduation, graduation parties, prom and everything that went along with senior year..I made it through it all, pretty well if I have to say so myself..I shopped, I cleaned, I attended everything that my son was involved with...after that was over I still had about 5 chemos...actually I think keeping busy made me handle chemo better than during the summer when there was not as much going on...sometimes yes..it was a struggle to get myself going but I did it..it was important to me..I never worried about being around people and getting sick from them....I didn't worry about it..I was out in the sun, sometimes some nasty weather but I was fine..one time the umbrella caught my wig and almost pulled it off..I don't know..I think you have to do what you have to do...don't let freaking cancer get in the way of your life..yes..take care of yourself but you obviously are a busy person and like it that way...DO IT!
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And another thing..I'm glad that we tn's are coming together here and supporting each other...we have had alot of support..from people that are farther out..some in the middle and some just starting..let's just stick together
Payton..so much fUN with your kids..I hope freshman year goes well for your son next fall..and your 5th grader too! We too had a team that took our kids around to various tournaments when they were in grade school. it was a total blast with the kids and parents...not sure who had more fun! It was kinda of a jolt when the parents weren't in control any more and we had to give them up to the jr. high and high school coaches..sometimes...I think that we may have been better! HE HE!
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Well said Titan! I like this thread and am glad I've connected with you fellow TN ladies.
Have a nice evening ladies!
Sherri
(Canada just won the Olympic hockey game so I'm happy!!!)
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Good Morning all!!
I am up and waiting for my oldest to get ou tof the shower, so I can get them breakfast.
Bg6- I still did quite a bit w/ chemo, i had dose dense also. Although I didn't work. I did get up every am and drive my kids to school and I picked them up every day. Went to church, grocery store etc..I did find that smells bothered me alot. kindof like morning sickness. They have some great drugs to help with nausua ( whats up w/ my sp????) I was way to hard headed to take them at 1st because I didnt want anymore crap in my body. I learned quickly and took the drugs.
Thinking of you today.
Yeah Titan parents make the best coaches. Its hard because I have them doubled now, so 2 sets of coaches. Although the 5th grade set of coaches work together and compare notes so they are on the same page.Results an un defeated team. I am so grateful I found you not only do you get the TN but you get the basketball. My Dad used to say I was pushing them too hard. PLZ!! Like I said my oldest is in the shower not up at 4am shooting free throws..
I will check in after the biopsy..
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Well back from the biopsy and now the home stretch of the waiting game begins.
I am getting ready to feed the guys and than off to 2 basketball games. My guys dont have school tomorrow so we are having an official lazy day. Maybe rented movies, pj,s and popcorn. They are off to there dads later Friday evening, so it will be way to quiet around here.
I will have to find some trouble to get into
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Payton..when do you go back for your results? Monday..I hope..or Friday would be better? My son is home from school for spring break so I'm washing socks..and a few other things! I don't mind...My dh and I are going away for the day and night tomorrow..going to leave the laptop at home...you all have a good couple of days...
I wanted to ask..do any of you.separate your breast cancer time..and the rest of your life? My time with all of you is very precious to me...and then..when I'm not here...I really try to not think about bc much...it is still there,,kinda...I need both...the working, washing socks, the basketball, the just hanging with my dh and friends..but I have a real need to come on here and just talk and see whatever everyone is doing,,it is very important to me and my mental health... plus I worry about everyone on here..just like you are sitting next to me...
We are going gambling tomorrow! We are staying the nite at the casino...it will be soo much fun!
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Titan - I hope you and your dh have a great time away! I will be able to separate bc time and rest of my life down the road but right now I'm going through treatment and am on leave from work. I think once the treatment is over and I'm back at work, life will start getting more back to normal. I worked after both of my surgeries and really didn't feel like I had cancer. Perhaps it was denial...I don't know but when I started chemo and my leave from work, I came face-to-face with the fact that I have breast cancer and right now it seems to be a big focus but I do think I need to deal with it now. I'm taking a wonderful course called "The Healing Journey" through a local cancer support organization and it's really helping. All in all, I am enjoying my time off work and have made the best of it. I had lunch today with a co-worker and will go for a Reiki treatment tomorrow. Oh, and I did laundry yesterday and lost more socks!!!
Sherri
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It will get back to normal but it takes some time...first you are excited because you are DONE...and you celebrate for awhile..then reality hits..it's like ok..I'm done..the year from hell is over..what do I do now? It takes time..but you will do it...it is still a heck of a lot better than taking chemo...I still keep track of how many weeks since my last one,,,29! But now and then I forget that I used to go to chemo every two weeks on Wednesdays,,now Wednesday are just another day!
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Thankyou ladies with all your help and positive and inspirational thoughts as I was only diagnosed on February 7th.2010 I took my triple negative result quite harshly and given my limited hospital experiences all this is all new ground to me. I had my first AC chemo two days ago, next one is March 9th. Had a really bad night but doing a little better today thanks to all the meds given. My treatment consists of 4 AC followed by masectomy and axilla clearance followed by more chemo and then rads. A big journey for 2010. Inspiration and information by you ladies will be so important to me. I have great family and friends support but this challenge I have ,is purely for me to face. I am 49 and only history of hospitals is having babies and a broken wrist playing netball at 44. I would love to hear your thoughts.
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Jac999, We are walking beside you on your "journey". Sherri, let us know how the Reiki session goes. I'm going to be looking into Reiki as well. Titan, Right now I try to separate the bc from my life. I try to live as though I have all the time in the world because doing the "this day could be my last" thing is too stressful. I was dxed with endocervical cancer in October '08 and had a radical hysterectomy which was a difficult recovery, both on account of the surgery and on account of being plunged headlong into menopause overnight. After a few months it all began to recede in my mind and I started feeling good...until I started feeling fatigued again during the summer of '09. I was dxed with breast cancer in October '09. I am just soooo over it. I think when I'm done with treatment and my post-chemo scans come back clear I am going to be able to leave this behind (aside from subconscious moments of panic that seem to arise of their own accord). I can't stand the needles and the medicinal smell of tape and band-aids, even swallowing pills, getting my body onto a surgical table to remove my port and do my reconstruction is going to be a struggle after my bilateral masectomy was left with loose ends and I nearly died. I am going to dissociate myself with the very word "chemo" because it makes me gag to think of it. I hope I stop back in here to encourage new survivors with how I'm 3 years down the road cancer-free. I had my 5thTAC yesterday - feeling pretty green even though it was cut 20% because of my winding up in the hospital w/neutropenic fever last time. My 6th is March18 (I get to celebrate St. Patrick's Day with my children!) I expect I'll be starting to feel normal by Easter. And I am going to hit the ground running. I'm going to lose my chemo weight plus, I'm going to juice and eat my veggies, do yoga, walk like crazy (I miss my walks), meditate. I got the supplies we need to start the epic vegetable garden for the kids in the backyard. I'm just not feeling up to anything these days. I'm sorry I'm so whiney. I'm off to start a load of laundry. I'm thinking of you, Payton...
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Violet..I don't like doctors, hospitals or clinics much either...i ran out of that place at my last appt..couldn't move fast enough...the poor doctors..they were like..I know you want out of here..well yes...see you in 3 months...I'm outta here!
I'm doing more laundry too! I don't like going away if there are dirty clothes around.
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Hope you are having a great weekend Titan.
I get my results on TUesday at the latest. My onc is on call this weekend and I am friends with his nurse. She told me IF the get the results in sooner she will let me know. Either way will be fine with me..boys are gone as of 5.3o tonight and return Sun evening, if I have to wait til Tuesday they will be at school. So if I need to dance or cry I will be able to do that and than carry on.
In response to your other question when I am not on the computer I have what I think is a normal life. I take care of my boys, dog, house, I love to laugh and can find the humor in just about anything. Right now I am on this board more than normal for 2 reasons..The first being I really like you guys and the 2nd is with my recent scare I didn't tell anyone except my parents, my aunt and 1 friend who isn't in my close circle. When I got my dx the 1st time I was like an overnight lottery winner. I had 3 phones ringing at all hours. People wouldn't leave me alone. Over time ALL those extras the DRAMA MAMAS slowly faded away..I knew it would happen but still hurt to realize what I knew was true. They just wanted the scoop. So once again I am alone. Don't get me wrong I like my alone time and crave it at moments.
So to wrap it up I can post here or just chose to read and learn. If I can't get on the computer for a few days my heart won't break but I still think of you all. I don't live my life with one foot in the grave ( what kind of example would that be for my boys???) Even if my results come back bad I will trugde on thru..I mean come on I got 2 boys you think cancer scares me??? Okay yes, sometimes it does..but I sound tough right.
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Hey Sherri !!
I think I found your socks in my laundry..
A lone sock showed up
have a great weekend
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You all are the best!!
Justpayton - sending positive vibes and hugs your way!! Keep us posted!
Titan- I'm so envious - have a FABULOUS time away, and may Lady Luck be with you!
Sugar - Hang in there! "Normal" life (and laundry!) really does seem to push its way to the forefront of our minds as we get farther out.
Violet - ugh - hang in there!! Hopefully this cycle will be much smoother than the last for you! I had to laugh (well not laugh, laugh, but you know...) about you feeling green and looking forward to your last treatment on St Pats day! Green beer is all good, but I think you're taking it too far! Of course I'm teasing - hope you WON'T be green for St. Pats, and even if you are - you'll see the light at the end of the chemo tunnel!
Jac999- so sorry you're here. It stinks the big one, but you can do this. Please stick around! We get it here. I'm with you - my only hospital experience before this was during childbirth! Since you're new here, I just have to refer you to my favorite thread on this whole board, even though I've never even posted on it! Check out THIS THREAD
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Violet - my SIL had endometrial cancer in 2007 and she's doing really well now. She was 47 at the time and her's was a blend of low and high grade so she had to have chemo and radiation in addition to the radical hysterectomy. After seeing her go through chemo, I knew I could do it.
I hope everyone has a great weekend. It's snowing like crazy here. Maybe my 10-year-old will finally get to use the toboggan that she got for Christmas as we've had virtually no snow in Toronto area.
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Being triple negative doesn't mean you have a death sentence but knowing the facts about the type of cancer is important and yes there is a lot of info out there. Dr. Sledge in Indianapolis. His group studies TNBC. I see one of his group Dr. Brian Schneider. Saw him this month and yes, the size and lymph node status is not indicative of a great prognosis. TNBC is well documented as not spreading locally. It spreads distally and to soft tissue. I am not trying to scare anyone or give misinformation. I'm a registered nurse, have hung plenty of chemo and am a TNBC survivor myself. I am sharing information as are all of us here. I, personally like to collect as much data as possible from professional, peer-reviewed journals and physician's journals as well. I am not a loose cannon trying to lay death and dismay at anyone's doorstep. The facts are the facts. Good luck to one and all you are all in my prayers.
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I just went on the internet and can tell you that you can find about a million studies that all say different things. We all have to remember that we are individuals and not statistics...
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Hey Titan!! How was your weekend?
I am getting ready to get my guys from their dads house. Still no word on my results..I didn't think I would hear but there is always hope.
I am guilty of internet searching, infact I have my own research project going on. I have kept notes and a journal. I compare studies, dates etc..I know what I am up againest. I gotta go for now. I am so not in the right frame of mind for this right now.
Hope you all are having a great weekend
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Hey Payton! We had a great time..thanks for asking.....! And I'm thinking of you! You will get through whatever you have to get through..and we will help you....hang in there....
Our area starts high school tournaments this week so we will be busy going to those....we could go every night if we wanted to! My son is home from school. He is going to go to a couple of practices to help out the team...I think he is really excited to go.
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How fun w/ the high school games..I am pretty sure we have that too. I didn't grow uo in Indiana so I have no ties to any high school. Maybe I will check into that.
My oldest is bummed because Robbie Hummel is out for Purdue, so sad. Won't be the same with out him. Although I am more of a Nova fan. Do you watch much of the March Madness? That was the only good thing about tx last year. I felt like crap and could veg on the couch and watch all the b-ball my heart desired w/o guilt!!!
How nice for your son. Seems like the younger guys always enjoy when someone closer to their age returns to help.
Still waiting...waiting...waiting...I will know tomorrow for sure. I almost want to call the lab and ask. Why cant they just tell me???they are my results..
Already walked the dog..started more laundry and now going mop...
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And it is not true that TNCB does not reoccur locally...all you have to do is look at the 2nd and 3rd breast cancers here...Some of your facts are just not true.
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I'm a Buckeye fan but I still feel horrible about Robbie Hummel...not sure how Purdue without him.
I had my lumpectomy last year on March 20 which is when OSU had their tournament game...there were several overtimes...I don't think it was over until after 1:00 am..I was awake the whole time...the drugs pumped me up rather than put me to sleep...I was just glad that there was something good to watch that late at night!
Watching March madness this year will be a better thing!
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Titan,
My onc said the same thing--- TNBC comes back a Stage 4. However, as you (and I) have noted, there appear to be plenty of women in here who have had a local recurrence. I really wonder which is the more accurate depiction of TNBC, and based on what studies.
Going from early stage to terminal with no "in between" is hard to wrap one's head around.
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I think maybe too much information can be a bad thing...it can drive you crazy...there is a very good article on here that has alot of information...plus what I can get from my onc. and my co-worker who had tn 6 years ago, no scans, 4 ACs, that is all....I think I will let it go at that...like I said it can drive you nuts.....
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