Starting Chemo Feb 2010?
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boy am I mixed up on my days. For some reason I was thinking it was Monday. I guess I'm anxious to get my DH results of a test that he takes tomorrow. We get them on Tuesday right before my 2nd chemo. I'm finding I'm getting days mixed up quite a bit already. I'm in trouble! lol
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For all of you noticing a tingling- mine did that for about a week before strands started coming out in a more significant fashion. I don't know why I thought the process would go much faster... its been almost a week, and now I feel that I am at the "mangy dog" stage. I just want it to be all smooth. The onc. nurse yesterday said not to shave it with a razor blade, but to get clippers and buzz it as close as possible. So I guess thats what I will do tonight. The other thing I noticed was how brittle my hair had become. Had not heard the duct tape idea- I can see that working better than cleaning out shower and bath drains.
So fashion advice- dangling earrings work best with the scarf/buff look?
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Going for round 2 in about an hour. Drank zero cal flavored water like crazy yesterday. My puppy and I seem to be on a similar potty schedule now. Awake this morning since 4 am. I think the dexe yesterday is hyping me up. Felt pretty calm last night, but anxious now.
I liked the cat story, too. I brought my wig home and placed it, on its stand, on the kitchen table. One of my dogs went ballistic. Moved it to the top of a dresser in the bedroom. Other dog tried to climb up to get it, his hackles up. The wig is now in my guest bathroom, door closed. They (dogs) don't notice a difference when I wear it, so I guess it really does look natural
Went to Kohl's and found some winter clearance knit hats for $6/each.
Had a really good day yesterday, so hate the thought of SEs coming back. Hoping the extra water will help some.
Fashion: yes, dangling. I'm going round instead of droopy, tho, for some width. JMHO
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Cat story made me laugh out loud!
Hubby said to me after the wig shopping fiasco " I'll just get you some bigger diamond earings so nobody will even look at your hair! I did not say no.
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Always go for the bigger diamonds ... you may have to have a couple of different sizes to accommodate different hats!
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lbreedl, the "bigger diamond earnings" sound like such a great idea. You have a wonderful husband!
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kshep, my scalp never tingled. It gave no warning sign at all. Just all of a sudden I find a few strands. Then after 3 days of "just strands" the major shedding happened. I lost virtually all of it in a matter of a day and a half.
Still have hair down south, though. Some thinning but not nearly as dramatic. I guess the hair on the head grows and replaces itself much faster. It makes sense to me.
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lbreedl, now that's a wonderful husband!!
ezscriiibe, thanks for the worksheet link. I'm going to do it for round 2. You do kind of forget (a good thing).
I'm bald (with a 5 o'clock shadow) now. Although the stress of it gave me stomach trouble, I stayed pretty cheerful, and it's not too horrible. Interesting to hear that I have a couple of small scars on the top of my head-- no memory of any injuries. It helps that I still have strong eyebrows and eyelashes. It will be harder when they go/diminish.
Here's the short version of what the chemo/cancer nutritionist for Huntington-UCLA said: Forget about eating healthy while in chemo, you've got your whole life to do that. This is about getting through it. Eat healthy and good fiber on your "good" week/weeks if you can, but don't feel guilty if you can't. In the few days before a chemo day, lots of hydration and fiber foods if you can. Starting on chemo day, go to the opposite of what we normally should do: a White Diet. Small amounts, every two-three hours. White bread, yogurt, white rice, chicken, smoothies (with peaches, yogurt, whey protein, bananas but no berries--seeds are irritants), chicken soup (no celery), tofu, pudding, Jello, ginger snaps, smooth peanut butter, milk (if your system tolerates it normally) and small amounts of cheese. The only fiber food is oatmeal, because it is soluble and digests well. One coffee in the morning is usually okay, but don't drink it throughout the day. A little wine is okay if that's what you normally do (although it doesn't taste good anymore, as we all know).
No vegetables. No beans. No whole-grain breads. No fatty meats (ie lots of bacon). No low-cal drinks or food that have sugar alcohols for sweeteners, because they don't digest and irritate the bowels (I was drinking Vitaman Water 10s to stay hydrated, big mistake). If you're drinking sugar drinks like Gatorade, have a little protein with it, otherwise it will go through your system too fast and might make diarrhea worse.
Make yourself eat a little something every few hours even if you don't want to.
Take Benefiber every day. It's a "good" fiber that helps even if you're in intestinal misery.
Finally, as to my concern about gaining weight, she said it's usually from too much comfort eating, which is understandable. Watch out for too many shakes, puddings, etc., and don't eat constantly, just every few hours. And of course exercise!
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Writer, thanks so much for sharing info on nutrition.
Just one thing I don't understand: she said "no vegetables" after treatment, but then "take Benefiber every day." I can't seem to fathom the logic there. Why won't we want to get fiber naturally from vegetables? (I've been loading myself on veggies every day.) Maybe there is a reason there...
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Writer, thanks for posting that information from the nutritionist. Very helpful.
Kshep, I've also noticed my hair being more brittle. I'm Day 6 since hair loss began, and my hair is still hanging in there. It's wispy, but there are no bald spots yet. I just washed it after letting it go for a few days, and I was prepared to see the rest of it come out in the shower. To my surprise, very little fell out. I've gotta see the PS today, and I think I'd better take a scarf just in case. Should we take bets on whether I have enough left tomorrow when I go for my second infusion?
Good luck to all having treatment today. Donna and swiftbird, hope your first infusions go well. Faithfulc, hope you're still doing good today.
Take care all.
Cindy
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faithful, there is a reason. It has to do with soluble and insoluble fibers. Benefiber is easily soluble, and they insist it is as helpful for diarrhea/cramping as for constipation. But the fiber in the good fresh vegetables that we should normally eat will aggravate an attacked/irritated intestinal system. You can have a few veggies, like cooked carrots, but nothing cruciferous (broccoli, cauliflower), or stringy (celery, asparagus).
This, of course, is only for those of us who got/get intenstinal trouble from the chemo. If you didn't have any problems, then you can eat whatever you like, and of course should eat your vegetables!
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CinD, thanks for well wishes. The first infusion went off without a hitch. Thank God for the port! I can't imagine how much damage can happen with the adriamycin if it is goes straight into your veins. My chemo nurse said "I still get sweaty palms every time I push that drug, and the day I don't, I will stop being a chemo nurse." I was so impressed by the encouragment and dedication of these nurses. Even though it must a very rewarding job, it's got to be tough too, not to have it emotionally drain you. My hats off (ooh, bad pun) to them.
Like others, I felt very spacy and somewhat dizzy with a touch of nausea last night, but ginger tea and crackers kept it at bay. I actually slept pretty well, which surprised me given the steriods and nerves. And the Senecot and strong coffee this morning did the trick on other fronts, so I'm feeling almost myself today. I get my Neulasta shot this morning, so the nurse said Friday and Saturday will be rougher, but I plan to try the Claritan and lots of Advil, so we'll see how it goes.
Ado, I hope you had a similarly smooth experience! My thoughts are with you, and all you other brave women!
Sally
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Hi Girls... Just came back from my first treatment of T/C... Did the C and everything was fine..Then came the taxotere about 5 minuets into it I started to heave stomach cramps. (thought I had to go to the bathroom) Then back and kidney pain. felt like my chest was caving in with hot flashes and palpations.... They stopped the drip and gave my 50mg off Benadryl... I was fine in seconds... It amazing... They continue with the T after 15 minuets and I finished my first round.... 3 more to go....... YEAH!!!! For me..... Tomorrow I give my self the nuelasta shot because the weather here is to be really bad,,,,,, Oh well now will drink my water, pee, and hope for the best....... Hoping every one good wishes,, Thanks STACY and WRITER for the head cover info.... And stay with us Stacy... DO Both.....
And for everyone who is losing their hair.... I will be with you just about 15-18 days down the road!!!!! It makes me mad...... Going ti rest...
Talk to you beautiful ladies later....
Courage and Strength,
Donna
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Hi, Ladies - Donna - more snow, isn't it just great! This is a continuation of the conspiracy called cancer - give woman cancer, make her have chemo and then have her kids home half the winter because of snow days - someone's idea of a cruel joke!!! Just a moment of bitchiness - now I feel better - Mo
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Writer-a big thank you for the nutrition info! I've been pushing the Gatorade myself, since plain water doesn't taste good anymore. I'll add some protein.
Donna-wow, scary experience! Glad they were able to get it under control so quickly. I bet you're sleepy from the Benadryl-get some rest!
Finally losing a little bit of hair (day 14 for me)-but it's my pubic hairs! What?! Weird. Not entirely a bad thing, just strange that's the first to go.
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sally, the problem with adria isn't really the vein thing, as much as the horrendus damage it will do to your tissues if the iv gets dislodged & goes through the vein allowing the drug directly into the tissue area....and no you can't imagine the damage. and you don't want to. that is why they pause so often if they 'have' to push it for some reason, and make sure there is still a blood return to prove they are still in the vein. try to get some exercise--just some gentle walking will help, that and water water water--helps to push the drug out of your system more efficiently. good luck this weekend & stay on top of the meds they have given you & you will do just fine.
donna--so sorry you had a reaction to the taxol, but they got it under control so goody goody for you!!!!
yesterday was the first day they used my port & it is still sore from surgery. told the nurse i would punch her if she hurt me. so she numbed me up pretty good (after offering to push the adria again--no thanks) and was really careful when she stablized it for the poke..what a girl....may have to take her a goody basket.
feel pretty good today--hope all have as easy a time as i seem to be having.
tata
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faithfulc- they told me you lose the hair from the top down, so leg shaving happens long after the top goes. I too, have thinned out but still got it down below.
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hi, am back. my day 10 after first chemo session. am feeling much much better, gaining back strength and no more nausea feeling, ye! am going back to ONC to check my blood count next wed, to check if they are sufficient.
am taking lots of high antioxidants veg and fruits to boost my immunity as well as drinking beet root water, am surprised that it actually taste quite nice
about the vit supplements, my ONC says no no too. he said something about the chemo and radiotherapy (especially) needs oxidants to eliminate the cancer cells and by taking concentrated vit supplements, its like having a protection shield over the cells.
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It's been my understanding that anti-oxidants are a no-no during chemo.
Many chemo regimes function by creating free radicals, and the role of anti-oxidants is to prevent free radicals. It seems counter-productive in a way, to me.
Are there perhaps other ways to boost immunity besides the chemo-dampening effect of anti-oxidants?
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Sally, I'm so glad your first infusion went well. It sounds like you have a great bunch of nurses, and that must ease your mind.
Donna, oh wow, sorry you had that bad reaction, but I'm glad it was fixed quickly. Benadryl is amazing stuff. We're never without it in the house. One of our pups had a severe allergic food reaction a couple of months after we adopted her, and if we hadn't shoved a Benadryl into her, she wouldn't have made it. It was a lucky guess, but her white gums made us think it was some type of allergic reaction. Our other pup got stung, was starting to lose consciousness, but Benadryl rode to the rescue once again. Sorry, got off track, but I love Benadryl!
I wish there was one definitive souce on vitamins, supplements, and what to include or avoid as far as food, drink and herbs. There seems to be so much conflicting information. I'm avoiding any supplemental vitamins, etc., while on chemo just to be safe. I'm also using herbs sparingly and avoiding others like curcumin altogether right now. I'm still eating some foods rich in anti-oxidants, like broccoli, spinach, tomatoes, and blueberries, but just not to the extent I did before. Michele, after reading your post, I may cut those back even more. What is everyone else doing?
I wish you well.
Cindy
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Had round 2 this morning. Went well with a friend there to talk with the whole time. One med hurt going in, so the nurse slowed the drip and added a hot pack to my arm, to plump up the vein. That did the trick and felt good. I'm going to ask for heat again next time. I feel so much better informed this time, thanks to all of your comments. Getting the neulasta tomorrow; hoping it won't do a number on me. I had to use my cane one day after the first one.
The nutrition info is confusing. I was planning to eat steamed veggies and salmon tonight. I've avoided beans; that makes sense. And since small seeds can cause diverticulitis, it makes sense to stay away from those when our guts are irriated already. I find it really hard to drink plain water.
When people ask what they can do, tell them to make ginger snaps!
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I love ginger snaps!
Especially these (Anna's Ginger Thins - I know our local Walgreens carries them):
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Hello again all, glad that you are all coping with the bump in our lives! My second treatment was yesterday. All went smoothly again, no dramas and I am back at work today. My oncolgist gave me some mild sleeping tablets just incase it was the anti-nausea drugs that were making me a bit sleep deprived after my first Taxotere treatment. I had a good nights sleep last night, just feeling a bit "cloudy" in the head today! Cindy - I asked my hubby to buzz my hair off on Tues this week, was over the waiting and felt like I was in control of something for a change! When I had a shower before work on Mon morning, the hair lose was massive, it was like showering with a small animal at my feet! Wearing a bandana now and feeling very proud to be having treatment so that I will be able to get on with my life again after all these hurdles that we all are having to get over right now. The hair loss for me is a massive reminder that even though I am feeling great, I am being treated for breast cancer! love to all and have a great weekend
XXX
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Hi Gals,
Question for you all - I start my chemo Tuesday - picked up my pre-meds yesterday. My question is did any of you notice how you felt based on what you ate the day before? I know some of you have had a couple treatments and was wondering or could you direct me to a thread that has the answer.
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Staceyt - I was told not to eat anything too heavy - no meats, for example. I just had soup, applesauce, crackers, yogurt (not for everyone, I know), and easy stuff to digest. That seemed to help. I had zero nausea - a little bit of constipation but it was easily managed with Colase and Miralax. The most important thing, I found, is to drink, drink, drink - as everyone has said. You can't drink enough. I started drinking extra two days before and I drank a lot during the treatment and tons the days afterwards. If you're like me, you're super nervous, but,as you've seen, it's really not as bad as most of us had imagined. Make sure you don't leave without the anti nausea medicine - I've still seen where people have to go home, get sick and then get the meds - that doesn't make sense. They should always give you the meds prior to you leaving chemo. Good luck and I'll be pulling for you! Mo
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Forgot to mention that hair is officially coming off tonight. Handfuls are just falling out, so when my husband gets home from work, we're having a buzz party - unlike our usual buzz parties, we'll both end up bald after this one! Hugs to everyone - the hair thing sucks, but I think I'm just about over it since it looks awful now anyway. Mo
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Staceyt, for the day before chemo I eat pretty normally. I have cut down meat intake in general during the past couple of months, so mostly what I eat are veggies. I do have a soup with every lunch and dinner - chicken soup, bone soup, with mushrooms.
Although with the wonderful modern meds I have never felt a bit of nausea so far, I do know that for the few days after each treatment the drugs still do a number on my GI tract. So during these days I eat light - try not to overload my system too much. And of course, drink drink drink!!
Mo, sorry it's time for the hair to go, but once we get over it, it really doesn't feel that bad. I've grown to love the low maintenance of my new style.
Slept a lot last night. Took Anzemet this morning. Just came back from the Neulasta shot. Didn't take anything for it as last time things went well with the shot - at least for the first 30 hours after the shot no pain at all. By tomorrow (Saturday) evening I'll most likely feel the shot at work, but am hoping that until then everything's good. I'm a bit spaced out today (day 3) but feel good enough to be at work.
Have a great weekend, everyone!
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mo--you may appreciate this...getting real close to the big fallout, so i did a dry run yesterday. put my hair up under my hat & did my appts..everything was fine until we were sitting in the waiting room at the clinic...i'm minding my own business when ouch .. turned to dearest & he has this grin..says to me 'your hair isn't falling out yet'......
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I called my doc to get something to sleep and was told to take 50mg of benadryl. I slept better than I have since treatment started. Still a bit droggy. Works better for me than Ambien and no prescription.
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Thank you mofend and frosty1 for your response. I have already picked up my anti-nausea yesterday. Onward we go
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