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I was searching long term side effects of rads and came up with this link.  I found it informative and thought others might too.

http://www.consumerreports.org/health/conditions-and-treatments/breast-cancer/what-works/surgery-plus-radiation-therapy/side-effects-of-radiation.htm 

Best wishes to all as always,

Marilyn 

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  • chinablue
    chinablue Member Posts: 545
    edited December 2009

    Thank you!!! What a great and concise link.

  • Blundin2005
    Blundin2005 Member Posts: 1,167
    edited December 2009

    You're welcome.  Yes, I thought it was a good summary.  I'll give it a bump here

  • 3monstmama
    3monstmama Member Posts: 1,447
    edited February 2010

    Very helpful and concise.  Thanks!

  • mommanurse
    mommanurse Member Posts: 12
    edited February 2010

    Thank you for sharing this. I am starting radiation soon and was curious about side effects that I may not have heard of yet.

  • grammaatdaycare
    grammaatdaycare Member Posts: 11
    edited February 2010

    Someone (who had BC and was told by her radiologist) told my daughter that one of the possible side effects was the breast gets rock hard and turns black! Is this one of those horror stories no one talks about? The link from above does mention hardness and a darkening that doesn't last - perhaps that is what the radiologist was talking about?  Has anyone else heard this?

  • rreynolds1
    rreynolds1 Member Posts: 450
    edited February 2010

    I was told the breast would "firm up" which it did a little.  It actually looks better than the other breast.  I never heard about a breast turning black.  I did darken as one would with the sun after the redness went away.  Hopefully, someone else can address the black issue better than I.  I know many breast cancer survivors who had radiation and none had breasts that turned black.

     Roseann

  • kat06365
    kat06365 Member Posts: 30
    edited February 2010

    I haven't posted in awhile and I hope all are well and God Bless all of you. My name is Kathy.

    My last radiation treatment was 12/12/2008 for the earliest stage of breast cancer one can get. It was very small and I did have the sentinal node biopsy and lumpectomy done. My breast cancer was not out of the duct. My breast hasn't been quite the same since radiation, but it's been almost back to normal, sun-tanned still, but not as it was during the initial healing.   This past 12/09 I noticed some redness and swelling, and minor itching in the bad radiation burn area of this breast, but I was due to see my Oncologist so I waited. I was immediately told it was edema. I am doing physical therapy and I have a compression bra. Both are working moving the fluid out and I also do some exercises twice a day at home. With this edema I never had arm swelling, never had an inverted nipple, never had any nipple seepage. I had hardness in the bad burn area, minor redness and itching. The hair folicles (even though there is no hair) were also a bit swollen. I never had pain either.

    I had my OBGYN yearly yesterday (2/24) in the morning and my yearly with my Primary Care (PC) in the afternoon. My OBGYN recognized the edema immediately, did a thorough breast exam on me, etc. He told me to continue what I was doing for the edema and said I was doing quite well moving out the fluid. My PC sent me into a state of shock in the afternoon. He said that if it didn't go completely away in 3 to 4 weeks that I should be checked for IBC (Inflamatory Breast Cancer). I should go see my surgeon to get a biopsy. This, a man, a physician, that once was in Oncology years ago. He told me that edema where I had it was not possible and that my arm should be swollen. He told me it looked like the symptoms of IBC even though I had no inverted nipple ever, no seepage from the nipple, nothing away from the edema area at all. I tried to tell him how badly burned I was from the radiation where the edema showed up, etc., and he said that my Oncologist may have misdiagnosed me. I tried to tell him the softness in my breast was coming back, that swelling in the arm was not always the case with edema and he basically thought I was crazy. I left his office and sat in my car and cried as I read a paper on IBC he had given me. I got home and called my Oncologist and I am going to see her next Tues. 3/4 and I know she's going to be livid about what my PC said to me.  However, IBC is now eating away at my life, my over-all well being. I am not functioning well at all.  My breast is fine today with this edema and I moved a bit more fluid out this morning with my exercises. nipple is at attention as always, no invertion, no seepage, no orange peel look.  I read some good things on this sight last night about my type of edema: "Does lymphedema only occur in the arm or can it be in the breast as well?".....  2 answers I will type because there were many along the same answer.

    From Nicole Gerich, M.P.T., C.L.T.-L.A.N.A. :"Absolutely! Not only can it be in the breast as well, it can be exclusively in the breast and chest wall, even if it does not appear in the arm." "I am seeing more frequency of breast and chest wall swelling now with the sentinel node biopsy, as we are removing the direct drainage pathway out of the breast".

    From Jennifer Sabol, M.D., F.A.C.S. :As a surgeon, I probably see it more acutely than most and have more difficult time getting other physicians to acknowledge that there is such an entity as lymphedema of the breast which is actually quite uncomfortable for some patients as well as alarming, because it is difficult to ask for treatment for a swollen breast".

     Those comments are dated back to 8/25/2008 so it is not a new issue at all.

    I just needed to vent all this and thanks for listening. My PC was the pits yesterday and I think he needs to get updated about radiation burns and breast cancers in general.

    Thanks,

    Kathy

    My last radiation treatment was on 12/12/2008 and while the breast itself has been healing okay this edema showed up a year later which I was told is a common thing. It can show up years later.

    Had my physical therapy this afternoon and my edema is fine and the fluid is moving out and my breast is getting softer. My therapist was quite surprised that IBC was even brought up by my PC and she said she's seen 4 cases of IBC and she assured me I did not have IBC and told me to keep my appointment with my Oncologist next Tues. to ease my fears. So, My Oncologist diagnosed this edema, my OBGYN confirmed the edema, my PC suggested it might be IBC, my therapist says it's not IBC . This whole thing has been unnerving and stressful given the seriousness of IBC.

  • Binney4
    Binney4 Member Posts: 8,609
    edited February 2010

    Kathy, I'm really sorry about this upset. There are many women here on the bc.org boards who have breast lymphedema with no arm lymphedema. It sounds like your therapist is well-trained and the treatment is effective. She knows what she feels under your skin, and she's already identified it as lymphedema. Here's a page about truncal lymphedema that might help -- it's not scary, and I hope it offers you some reassurance.

    http://www.stepup-speakout.org/breast_chest_trunckal_lymphedema.htm

    Deep breaths, Kathy, and we'll be anxious to hear how your onc visit goes next week.

    Warm hugs,
    Binney

  • salsoda62
    salsoda62 Member Posts: 18
    edited February 2010

    Kathy, I read your post and was so sorry to hear that you are going through that. It is shocking that a PC, who isn't an expert on breast cancer, would tell you that you had been misdiagnosed and then send you on your way. But then my PC assured me that my lump wasn't cancer, and then I waited four months until my mammogram to find out she was wrong! Unfortunately, our doctors aren't perfect, so it's good that you are your own advocate and that you reach out to others here for input. The more knowledge we have, the better care we receive. I hope the oncologist visit allays all your fears.

     Sally 

  • kat06365
    kat06365 Member Posts: 30
    edited March 2010

    Just reporting back concerning my recent post. Saw my Oncologist today and I do not have "IBC", I do have breast edema that does NOT include swelling of the arm. My Oncologist was quite irritated over what my PC said to me, causing me unnecessary stress since Feb. 24th. Honestly, I was getting zits on my face, not sleeping well, just washed out. I'm 60 years old and I don't need zits!! (laughing). Yes, I am settled within now that I have had a good visit with my Oncologist. My therapy and compression bra are a savior for this edema along with the home therapy I do each day. The fluid is almost gone. I have 5 more sessions of therapy. I am extremely lucky the therapy has worked.

    Thankyou "Binney" for the web site, good site. Thanks for the support also.

    Thankyou "Salsoda62" for your post and support.

    Edema is not fun at all whether the arm swells or not and I think doctors need to realize and accept that edema can happen in the breast and chest wall without swelling of the arm.

    Kathy

  • Binney4
    Binney4 Member Posts: 8,609
    edited March 2010

    Hey, hey!Cool I just love good news! Hope you're doing something chocolate to celebrate the relief (and I'm sorry you had to live with that scare at all!) And thanks for letting us know.

    Be well!
    Binney

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