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debbys17
debbys17 Member Posts: 26

Hi ladies, it looks like this is the right place for me. Last Friday, the 19th I received the news - DCIS. I wasn't really surprised. In the last 4 years I've has 3 excisional biopsys with ADH. My breasts have so may holes in them my friends named then Swiss tits after the chees. During the recent mammo on the 11th, everyone was much more concerned. I live in a rural part of the state, so right now the wonderful nurses are working to set up appts for me with BS and PS in Seattle. So far I've made it by drinking my sorrows away Friday night - husband was great getting me home and in bed safely. Then spent the weekend reading and thinking and knitting really complicated project that require a focused mind.

I haven't told many people yet since I haven't seen any of the docs. I don't want to be saying "I don't know to all the questions". Reading what others have posted, and knowing that I'm not alone has been an anchor in this whirlpool.

After talking to my oncologist I will probably choose a bilateral MX. I'm comfortable with that choice. I'm hoping for immediate reconstruction. I really would like to hear true life stories of the surgery, recovery and knowing that life will get back to normal some day and that eventually I won't have to keep reminding myself to breath.

 Thanks for anything that you would like to share.

Debby

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  • Kitchenwitch
    Kitchenwitch Member Posts: 374
    edited February 2010

    Debby - I'm sorry to have welcome you to this group but there is tons of great info and support here. Two things you mentioned leaped out at me: drinking and knitting. (Don't try 'em together, haha.) Wine consumption has definitely increased in my household since the dx in November; I am having my lumpectomy on Tuesday and will start my hope for clear margins then.

     I joined the Ravelry knitters with breast cancer board and that has also been a great source of support and comfort. I highly recommend it! (You have to join ravelry.com first, obviously.) Knitting has also zoomed since my dx.

     Best wishes, Jill

  • 3monstmama
    3monstmama Member Posts: 1,447
    edited February 2010

    hey Debby, sorry you're here.   I'm also in Seattle and am happy to discuss my surgeon et all with you.  I really really like her.  What part of Washington are you in?  All my treatment is going through Swedish and I really like the people.  I have heard good things about Seattle Cancer Care Alliance too but ended up cancelling my 3d opinion.  Who is your PS appointment with?  I had consults with two PSs--one was really opinionated [think House] but really impressed me with his knowledge and if I'd had to go for the mastectomy, he would definitely be my first choice.  Feel free to PM with questions.

    As for drinking and knitting, Kitchenwitch, I must disagree--I can knit while drinking but knitting on the percocet post lumpectomy 1.0 and 2.0 now THAT was a disaster!!!! Laughing  Ladies don't let this happen to you!

    I'm on ravelry--thanks for the tip on the group!

  • Edie
    Edie Member Posts: 2
    edited February 2010

    Hi Debby,

     I'm new here too. This is actually my first post. I am 45, married, and an active working mom of one fuzzy 11 month old Boxer mix. I received my diagnosis of DCIS on Dec 30, 2009 (Happy New Year!). I visited the BS, Oncologist and PS; read a few posts here and there; and made my decision to have bilateral mastectomies with immediate reconstruction. It was a decision I was very comfortable with and I do not regret it. 

    The surgery was Jan 21. It was not that bad. I was an inpatient for only one night. I needed help dressing and bathing. Your chest wall is very sore. I had a flare of a pre-existing colitis condition which was worse than the surgery. I currently have tissue expanders and my new breasts look fantastic. I will have the TE exchanged for permanent implants in several weeks.

     My next big decision is designing the tattoos to decorate my new breasts. Blessings to you, EdieB

  • olivia218
    olivia218 Member Posts: 257
    edited February 2010

    Debby,

    So sorry to you! I think it is okay to tell the Dr this is my first time at this and so I will probably have lots of questions after I leave here - I know my surgeon understood that and gave me his email address which really helped.  I also did not ask for the path report upfront and wish now that I had.  Once I had the path report I had more questions and made an appt with my surgeon so he could go over it line by line with me. He was glad to do it and I think not irritated that I wanted to know the whole truth and not let my mind wonder.

    Hope that helps

    Olivia 

  • ladyod
    ladyod Member Posts: 152
    edited February 2010

    Hi Debby.  Your post was cute...I also have dealt with my DCIS dx with humor.  I was diagnosed on Christmas Eve.  The mammogram and MRI showed cancer on the right side only, but I chose to have both done for several reasons:  1.  Peace of Mind  2.  I have a family hx of breast cancer  3.  I am 43 and if I would have had only one done, I would have had one perky breast and one tie.  I am so glad that I did both because they found atypical and hyperplastic cells in the left side after the surgery.  I had surgery on Jan.25th and have had a speedy recovery.  I can't really say it was all that painful:  they keep the pain controlled very well after, but it is difficult to do some things on your own and your mobility is limited.  I had bilateral implants placed under my chest muscle immediatly after the mastectomy because I already had implants.  They put in drainage tubes which are annoying but necessary.  Luckily they are also temporary.  The breasts look pretty good really, except they are smaller than I thought.  The first week they looked kind of square and I kidded that I was Sponge Bob Square Boobs!  But now at 4 weeks they have rounded out quite a bit.  I am overweight, so I think that is why I am not satisfied with the size of my breasts, but the results after are better than I thought they would be.  I still need to get my nipples tattood on (my first tattoos) and I haven't decided if I will get a fake nipple implanted to make it look more real.  I hope this is helpful!  Good luck to you!

  • lvtwoqlt
    lvtwoqlt Member Posts: 6,162
    edited February 2010

    Debby, your post could have been my first post in 2007. I have a family history of breast and ovarian cancer, two previous dx of ADH starting in 2005 (once in each breast), and a humerous look at losing my breasts. After my 2nd dx of ADH my surgeon did suggest I consider PBM. When I heard the results of my mammo was abnormal for the third time, I told the doctor I 'wanted these ticking time boobs off'. I had bilat mast with recon expanders June 2007, went through several months of slow expansion, surgeries to implant the permanent implants and create the nipples (fipples). I had the areolas tattooed on by a tattoo artist who specalizes in creating life-like areolas for BC patients. The whole process took just over a year. My ps said that the good Lord took 13 yrs to create my original boobs, I had to give him at least 13 months. I now say 'my boobs are fake, my real ones tried to kill me.'

    Sheila

  • debbys17
    debbys17 Member Posts: 26
    edited February 2010

    Thanks Jill. I didn't know there was a group on Ravelry for knitters with breast cancer. Of course, with Ravelry I'm not surprised. There seems to be at least a dozen groups for each person. Good luck with your lumpectomy. I'll be thinking of you. I'll also look for you on Ravelry.

    Debby

  • debbys17
    debbys17 Member Posts: 26
    edited February 2010

    Thanks to all you wonderful ladies. I really appreciate your honest thoughts. At least I now have 2 appt scheduled for about a week from now. I feel better knowing that things are beginning to move forward.

    I am working hard to enjoy my annual Nascar vacation in Las Vegas. Tonight I get to see Donny and Marie. My wonderful daughter bought me a VIP ticket that includes and chance to meet and get a photo with them. It's my teenage dream come true! Then it's 3 days out at the race track with those fast cars and nice looking drivers. And of course a whole week with my wonderful husband.

    My latest chuckle (sort of) is that I recently lost 30 pounds and had to go buy new bras. I went to Victoria's Secret to give myself a reward for all my hard work. Spent way more than I should have, and now wonder how much longer I'll get to wear these beauties.

     God bless all of you and again, thanks.

     Debby

  • lvtwoqlt
    lvtwoqlt Member Posts: 6,162
    edited February 2010

    Debby I am jealous of you seeing NASCAR in Vegas. I went to the Bush (now Nationwide) race years ago at Charlotte. My husband has said his dream job would be driving the transporter for Tony Stewart. I pull for anybody ahead of Tony just to get some good competition from my husband.

    Also, after everything is done with you may still be able to wear those VS bras. Wink

    Sheila

  • debbys17
    debbys17 Member Posts: 26
    edited February 2010

    Hi Sheila. I'm hoping those VS bras will still fit. I'm hanging on to them till I know for sure. We are Kasey Kahne fans, but I also like Mark Martin. They had a parade of all the Nationwide and Sprint haulers down Las Vegas Blvd. last night. It was a sight to see. Too bad your husband wasn't driving!

     Debby

  • lvtwoqlt
    lvtwoqlt Member Posts: 6,162
    edited February 2010

    The year before my dx of breast cancer I rode with him (he is a long haul driver) one week and we saw several haulers going up the highway I think they were going towards Chicago. I tried to take photos but they didn't turn out very clear, it is hard from the cab of a Semi going 65 mph. We are close enough to Charlotte that once in a while we get the show cars on display at car dealerships/store grand openings and such. I hope to see the NASCAR Hall of Fame in Charlotte after it opens this summer. My husband was a diehard Dale Earnhardt fan until his death, he said that he can't fully pull for JR until he proves himself on the track. My hubby still has his #3 hat that he wears.

    Sheila

  • Jen112263
    Jen112263 Member Posts: 7
    edited February 2010

    Hello Debby- Of course all of us are new to this at one time or another.  Welcome.  Wink  I am 46 yrs old, I was diagnosed Jan 8th 2010 and had bi lateral mastectomy done Feb 22nd 2010, just a few days ago.  So, I am recuperating pretty well.  I have the drain bulbs.  I tell my husband I have more balls than anyone hahaha...  They are annoying though needed.  I have been resting and letting everyone wait on me.  I have no regrets with the decision of having the bi lateral done.  My mother lost her BC battle in Oct of '05.  I too have had the immed recon.  Right now I think I look like some kind of freak, but am told that in time it will take shape.  I have been taking pictures of my journey so that when it is all said and done I can look back and say ugh it's all over with now!!!  

    Hang in there!!! 

  • debbys17
    debbys17 Member Posts: 26
    edited February 2010

    Lucky you being so close to the Hall of Fame! That's on my list for one of these days. I agree about JR. I have to laugh at the track. Everyone screams and yells for him, yet he really doesn't win that many races. He has a long way to go before he's half the driver his dad was.

    Debby

  • Jen112263
    Jen112263 Member Posts: 7
    edited March 2010

    I looked for you on the track but I didn't see you.  LOL.  I hope you had fun.

  • debbys17
    debbys17 Member Posts: 26
    edited March 2010

    Hi Jen,

     I hope you are feeling OK and aren't trying to do too much. Is the pain very bad? I like your idea of pictures. Before, during and after. It it's a good way to chronicle what has happened. I hope your recovery continues smoothly. You are in my thoughts.

     For the rest of you wonderful ladies - I have appts scheduled with 2 BS and 2 PS between now and the 26th. Now I'm having a hard time keeping a "stiff upper lip" for those around me. Part of me wants to scream and cry, but that is so out of character. Vacation in Vegas was fun, but there was always a shadow hanging over the activities. It's hard to talk to my husband, he just believes that all was found early, and the docs will fix everything - what's there to talk about? While I appreciate his faith that all is going to be fine, I wish for - I don't know - maybe some pity time?

    Is this normal? Am I going crazy? Am I just feeling sorry for myself?

    Thanks for listening to my whining. Sorry for the pity party - I'm usually very upbeat and optimistic.

  • dbdaze
    dbdaze Member Posts: 196
    edited March 2010

    Debby,

    Another Debbie here (also from WA)  -- discovery Jan 11 with surgery just last week Feb 25.  I had given my husband a trip to Costa Rica for Christmas and thankfully we were able to continue with the plans before the surgery.  It was amazing -- best part was the "don't worry, be happy" attitude that prevailed in the rustic little town we were in.   (I've since found out that surveys show that people living in Costa Rica are the happiest people in the world!

    Recommendation was for a lumpectomy followed by 7 weeks of radiation -- MY choice was unilateral mx and no radiation.  Undecided on whether I will have reconstruction so had my doctor leave extra skin (the every so popular "shar pei" look) in case I go that route.  Figure I'll try the fake boobie first and then decide.

    I'm also a knitter (weaver and spinner too) and belong to Ravelry -- I'll look for you there!

    Debbie 

  • olivia218
    olivia218 Member Posts: 257
    edited March 2010

    debbys17 - 

    This week has been a bit of a pity party for me.  My mastectomy was a month ago today and for some reason I have been down this week.  These forums keep me upbeat but I am also thinking of joining a group at the hospital where I had my surgery.  

    My next appt is next Thursday for next steps on this journey.  

    Olivia 

  • lvtwoqlt
    lvtwoqlt Member Posts: 6,162
    edited March 2010

    Debbie, it is perfectly normal to want to scream and cry after this diagnosis and while you are waiting for everything is coming together. My husband, being a long haul trucker, wasn't home for my appointments, my mother (survivor since 2001) went with me to all appointments. The night before my surgery, my hubby was 2 hours away from getting home, I called him at 11:30 bawling my eyes out wondering if I had made the right decision (bilat with expander recon). He finally got home at 1:30 or 2:00, took a shower and came to bed. I drove us to the hospital at 6:00 am and he slept in the waiting room while they did the SNB injection. The radiologist asked me what was wrong with him. I had to explain that he got less than 3 hours sleep.

  • Redbarb804
    Redbarb804 Member Posts: 299
    edited March 2010

    Hi Ladies,

    I am new to this site.  I just got the news from my BS nurse that I have DCIS. I have a follow up appointment scheduled for tomorrow.  I hadn't heard anything from the office so I called today.  The nurse thought the doctor had called me, when she heard that I hadn't heard from him she asked if I had any questions she could help me with.  I said the only question I had was "do I have cnacer?"  She then told me, but that was all she could say.  Don't know stage, grade, etc.  I had lumpectomy on Feb. 25 with a SNB.  The node was negative.  I noticed a lot of you had a mastecotomy.  What made you decide on that versus just raditation?  I have no idea what my BS will recommend, but I am trying to go in to the appointment tomorrow with as much info as I can.  Thanks to everyone for your help. 

  • olivia218
    olivia218 Member Posts: 257
    edited March 2010

    For me the mx was not a choice because the DCIS was in multiple quadrants along with microinvasions.   I am not large chested to begin with so when they discovered it was multi quadrant a lumpectomy was not an option.

    I hope that helps a little

    Olivia 

  • Redbarb804
    Redbarb804 Member Posts: 299
    edited March 2010

    Olivia 218,

    Thanks for your feedback.

  • lvtwoqlt
    lvtwoqlt Member Posts: 6,162
    edited March 2010

    Redbarb, My personal decision to do bilat mast for DCIS included these reasons.  family history of breast and ovarian cancer (mother breast and aunt ovarian). 2 dx of pre-cancer ADH (Atypical Ductal Hyperplaysia) once in each breast 18 months apart. and I was ready to get off the rollercoaster ride of emotions with the abnormal mammograms requiring biopsies. The final pathology report after my bilat mast showed additional spots of ADH in both breasts that didn't show up on the original mammograms. 

    Sheila

  • aces
    aces Member Posts: 38
    edited March 2010

    I chose BMX for several reason...small breast and the DCIS was against chest wall so at least had to do a MAST...family history, high grade, young age, lots of risk factors, did not want to go thru radiation ,and I chose to do the other side for peace of mind and because most people I spoke to told me the comsetic results would be better

  • debbys17
    debbys17 Member Posts: 26
    edited March 2010

    Hi Redbarb, how did it go? I have an appt with the 1st BS on Monday. Anyone have some good questions to ask? Is it typical to see more than 1 doc before choosing the surgeon and procedure? Is she going to expect this? By the 26th I will have seen 2 BS and 2 PS. Since they are at different hospitals, I'm assuming I'll have to choose them as a team.

    Thanks for being there to answer questions. At home everyone expects me to act like things are going to be fine. Life is normal. I'm just going to have a little surgery and move on. I guess right now I'm tired of being "normal"

     Enough of my pity party. Have a great weekend to all you wonderful ladies.

    Debby

  • olivia218
    olivia218 Member Posts: 257
    edited March 2010

    My surgeon suggested I get a second opinion because he wanted me to be comfortable with what was going on.  I went to Johns Hopkins and decided to stick with my first surgeon and plastic surgeon. I think the surgeon should be understanding to you wanting a second opinion, it is common and they are not offended.  My surgeon asked me what they told me at Johns Hopkins and I told him.  

    My mother still thinks that I had a little surgery and I should just move on.  She said it's over now so get over it.  I have to say she is not a sensitive person and with age it seems to be getting more exaggerated (she is 84).

    I hope some of this helps Debby!  I know these boards help me and help me feel a little more normal.

    Olivia 

  • June2268
    June2268 Member Posts: 1,202
    edited March 2010

    Hi Debby sorry you have to be joining us here, but these women are wonderful and you will have a bunch of friends who will always be there for you to listen to you vent and or help in any way we can.......we are on this journey together......good luck to you!

  • lvtwoqlt
    lvtwoqlt Member Posts: 6,162
    edited March 2010

    Debbie, quite a few women do get second opinions from both the surgeon and ps. I didn't because my mom had the same surgeon in 2001, I started seeing him in 2005 with my first abnormal mammo needing a biopsy and again in 2006 with my 2nd abnormal mammo needing a biopsy. He was the most knowledgeable about breast cancer in the area and I could trust him to help me make the right decision. When I decided for recon when doing my bilat, I asked him for recommendations on what ps he worked with. He gave me his opinion on 4 PS he worked with and I also asked the local support group who did their recon and came up with the one name I went with.

    I guess it was easier for my family since my mom went through bc (single mast, no recon, chemo, rads) in 2001 and they knew what kind of support I would be needing. My husband is a long haul trucker and on the road all week long and home most weekends. Everyone was supportative to me while I was going through all my surgeries. My mom came by every day to make sure that I was ok, drove me to dr's appointments when I couldn't drive, my sister came by, called, brought me meals or took me to her house for meals. My brothers gave me a list of movies they had and would bring me movies to watch while I was home (I only had antenna TV) so they became my 'famflix'.

    Sheila

  • Redbarb804
    Redbarb804 Member Posts: 299
    edited March 2010

    I had my appt. with Doc. on Friday.  Not good news.   I went in thinking DCIS (only get results from the doctor, the nurse at his office told me DSIC) came out with a 4.5 cm tumor, 1 unclear margin, ER+ PR+ , negative nodes.  Next step is chest xray and liver emzyme blood test (to make sure nothing has spread) MRI (once insurance gives the OK) Then I meet with a team of doctors to decide course of action.  They only meet on a Wednesday.  So I figure no sooner than March 17, St. Patricks Day.  Sounds like a good day for me, my husband and I are both part Irish, so I am hoping to have the luck of the Irish on my side.  I just can't believe I am going through this.  I feel numb, like I am watching a movie.  It doesn't seem real.  I am thankful for this website and all you wonderful people.  If there is anyone out there with similar diagnosis please let me know.

    Barb

  • mom3band1g
    mom3band1g Member Posts: 817
    edited March 2010

    redbarb-

    Ok, forgive me if I didn't read your post correctly....but is your diagnosis DCIS?  With 1 unclean margin will they do a re-excision?.  That's good that your nodes are negative.  I had an MRI before my lumpectomy was even scheduled so I think that's pretty standard.  Give us more info!  sorry you have to be here but the women are amazing!

  • Redbarb804
    Redbarb804 Member Posts: 299
    edited March 2010

    Had my chest xray and liver enzmye blood test on Monday.  Good news both were normal!!  Went for the MRI today.  so the waiting game begins again.  I am really hoping to have the results from that test by Friday.  I am also hoping I can meet with the treatment team on Wednesday.  I just want to get the final diagnosis, get treatment options and get started.  I am not a very patient person.  I am so tired of this emotional rollercoaster and I am just starting.  Yesterday I was so up and today I am a mess. but I am sure this is normal.   The one thing that absoluting amazes me is the out pouring of help and support from people everywhere.   The sad part is that it takes something "bad" to pull everyone together.  This experience is teaching me to go around doing little acts of kindness for no reason.  I apoligize if I am rambling but it really is helping putting everything down in writing.  Have a great Thursday everyone!

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