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  • eclectic_art
    eclectic_art Member Posts: 4
    edited February 2010

    What is your experience with the treatment centres? Are you all getting good care?

  • RedheadPam
    RedheadPam Member Posts: 98
    edited February 2010

    Chinablue - I have worked out throughout both chemo and rads -- if I wake up and feel good enough to go to the gym, I go.  If I wake up and feel crappy, I go back to sleep. Don't stress over it. I found that as treatments went, on my endurance got less, so I might lower the speed or incline on the treadmill, or switch to something non-cardio, like the circuit machines. Be sure you have a sports bra that fits well and don't do anything bouncy Laughing.

     My set up for the boosts was put off until tomorrow, so I just had regular zap #28 today.  Only the boosts to go! I am quite pink and a bit tanned, but not sore, and my skin seems to be holding up well. I am thinking of switching my appointments from lunchtime to the end of the day, so I can go home and rest instead of heading back to work. I am starting to feel more tired, and a nap really sounds good. I am excited that the I can let the marks all over my chest fade now!! I'll get new marks for the boosts, but they will be much more focused on one area.

    Eclectic_art - I've been quite happy with the care at my center.  The person in charge of the radiation area is very competent, and she takes great care every day to make sure I am aligned perfectly. I see my rads onc every week, they take bloodwork every week, and they had the dosimetrist check my dosage with a sensor partway through treatments to make sure it is correct. I never have to wait more than a couple of minutes to get in for treatment. It would be nice if they had the equipment to do the treatments prone, or if I could have done the shorter course of treatment, but I can live with that.

  • DaylilyFan
    DaylilyFan Member Posts: 80
    edited February 2010

    Chinablue:  I continued my normal routine of about an hour a day, alternating cardio, yoga, and resistance.  I agree with RedheadPam that you have to listen to your body.  I was fine until I caught a touch of bronchitis after treatment ended; then I just crashed and slept twice as much as usual.

    RedheadPam:  What are they checking in your bloodwork (if you don't mind sharing)? 

    And everybody:  Vitamin E is wonderful for the skin!  Please remember reactions can be delayed, so keep up your skin care routine for at least week after you finish.  Hang in there...you'll be so glad you did.  I wore a "real bra" for the first time today (a very comfortable molded foam cup)!Laughing

  • tangi-girl
    tangi-girl Member Posts: 13
    edited February 2010

    Hi Chinablue, 

    I exercised at least 5 days a week for an hour.  I started off just stepping with my WII Fit, then added light weights.  My doctor emphasized the benefits of exercise and stretching to maintain a good range of motion so the scarring would not limit me.  Arm exercises included, bicep curls, triceps pull-downs, and then the snow-angels or jumping jack type stretches.  But I did not go back to work so I had plenty of time to exercise and rest. 

    Good luck!

  • weety
    weety Member Posts: 1,163
    edited February 2010

    I'm still trying to make sense of all this boost business.  I'm pretty sure I understand what it is, and what it is for.  My question is do women with mastectomies get boosts?  Why/why not?  I had a mastectomy and have NO boosts scheduled so I'm just wondering what makes me special enough to avoid them.

  • unklezwifeonty
    unklezwifeonty Member Posts: 1,710
    edited February 2010

    Weety, boosts are given to the tumor bed. After mastectomy there is no tumor bed, so no need for boosts. Of course there are exceptions....

  • Sido
    Sido Member Posts: 234
    edited February 2010

    Aroooooo!  32 down and ONE to go!  Today was my penultimate treatment and I practically lept off the table.  I'm not even angry anymore (a different topic) and tomorrow I will bid the techs a hale and hearty farewell!

  • mommy2two
    mommy2two Member Posts: 130
    edited February 2010

    I'm sure this has been mentioned in the thread somewhere but...does everyone get an x-ray every week?  How many do you get?  I usually get them on Mondays, 2 at the most but usually 1.  Today, I was on the table for 45 minutes and I counted 10...needless to say, I was pissed off and my arms were asleep!    I don't understand why she had to take 10 different x-rays and she didn't bother to explain herself when I asked, she gave me the runaround instead.  Tomorrow I see the dr so maybe she can explain it to me.

  • one-L
    one-L Member Posts: 1,110
    edited February 2010

    I get x-rays every week, usually about 3.  I see the doctor once a week and have blood work done once a month when I see the Med Onc.  As far as I know they are just checking blood counts, but there may be more.

    I will have my port taken out on Friday.  I am so glad.  I hope that the port is what is making my left arm hurt.  About the only thing that will relieve the pain is hydrocodone.  I just hate taking that much, it just isn't something I would normally do.

    Other than that everything is going pretty good.  I have started itching, but it is tolerable.  I am still not having any other skin reactions.

    23 down and 10 to go.

    Bless everyone and hope that all SES are mild.

    Juannelle

  • Juli-CA
    Juli-CA Member Posts: 36
    edited February 2010

    Mommy2two- Half of the way through my 16 txs they did an x-ray to confirm the area they were treating was still lined up with my tattoos.  The five boosts followed. 

    I haven't had blood work since just before my last chemo on Dec. 1st.  Makes me wonder but I guess if I don't exhibit any problems, there may not be a need for blood work.

    The treatment center I have used was excellent.  The rad therapists were the best; so nice and very gentle.  Once a week I saw the rad onc.  He was OK, great credentials but always seemed in a hurry to move on the next patient.

    My shoulders were sore for the four weeks I was treated.  Something about having my hands over my head just didn't agree with them.  I am an active person, doing yard work and other physical activity but that position just didn't agree with my shoulder joints.  They have improved since the last tx ten days ago.

  • weety
    weety Member Posts: 1,163
    edited February 2010

    At my facility (Kaiser) we get xrays at the half-way point and see a rad doc every 10 sessions (of course, if we ask or are having problems, they fit you in to see a doc wheneever needed.)

  • sanaisa
    sanaisa Member Posts: 167
    edited February 2010

    I am so excited to read your posts...so many of you are just finishing, or are 1/2 way through!!! Yay!

    13 down, 20 to go...I can't wait to get out of the "20's" tomorrow! By Friday, it will be 17 down, 16 to go :)  Good good...

    I get a CT with every treatment (freaks me out, but I guess this is the standard for the 3D TomoTherapy, where they target adjustments daily). http://www.tomotherapy.com/

  • SoCalDawn
    SoCalDawn Member Posts: 51
    edited February 2010

    I also have a "mini" CT scan before each tx daily (also Tomotherapy), I see the Rad Onc 1 x per week but have not had blood work done since being hospitalized for surgery.

  • AsiaYM
    AsiaYM Member Posts: 2,216
    edited February 2010

    16 down, 17 to go, little more tanned than last week.

  • 1rarebird
    1rarebird Member Posts: 91
    edited February 2010

    Weety--

    My doctor explained it this way: in order for the radiation to have the most disruptive effect on cancer cells, it takes oxygen molecules being in the immediate vicinity of the cells you want killed.  The energy contained by the speeding radiation particles, electrons in my case, knock off an electron in the oxygen molecule, thereby causing a free radical to be formed.  This free radical is extremely active and will instantaneously react with the DNA in the cancer cell nucleus, thereby disrupting the cell's ability to grow and divide into more cancer cells.  This is what we want and the key is there being sufficient oxygen molecules present for this to work well.  In the case of a lumpectomy where a solid tumor has been removed, the chances are the greatest for cancer cells to still linger in tissue immediately surrounding the original tumor bed.  This area often is prescribed a boost of additional radiation to make certain the area gets thoroughly treated. In the case of a mastectomy my doctor said that scar tissue does not have as good a vascular supply of blood flow as scar-free tissue and therefore does not have as much oxygen present for the radiation to produce free radicals.  That's why the scar line receives the boosts---to again increase the chances that the all the tissue involved with the mastectomy get equivalent and adequate treatment.  Anyway, that's the way it was explained to me and it kind of made sense. 

    As to why some mastectomies, if not most, don't get boosts, I am speculating that it probably has to do with how good the margins where after the surgery---the greater the margins, the lesser the need for boosts.  In my case I would be considered a very small breasted person and the margins were just not as large as they would have been had I more breast tissue to deal with. Of course there are other factors the doctors consider when deciding to boost or not---size, grade, etc.  Each person is an individual case and a good doctor will acknowledge that and based on her experience and the available medical evidence advise and treat accordingly---not just cook-book it.

    Hope this helps---  now I'm off for the 4th of 5 boosts and I'm done.

    bird

  • weety
    weety Member Posts: 1,163
    edited February 2010

    Thanks rarebird, that is kind of what I understood and that is why I was wondering why I am not scheduled for boosts.  One of the reasons I'm having the radiation in the first place is because even with the mastectomy my margins weren't all that big (1mm anterior and 3mm superior) because my breast was so small,   and I would think that boosts would be needed in my case.  I'm going to ask the rad onc again when I see him this week, but no one yet has given me a reason as to why I'm not getting boosts.

  • RedheadPam
    RedheadPam Member Posts: 98
    edited February 2010

    DaylilyFan - they are just doing a basic blood count each week,that's all. I get X-rays once a week, too.

    Got my first boost treatment today -- they lined up the machine, the rads onc gave the ok on the alignment, and off we went. Instead of a total of 5 zaps, I just get two. And since the electrons are treating a much shallower area, I no longer have to hold my breath!

    I talked to the substitute rads onc today (my regular one has been out for a couple of weeks due to a family illness) about fatigue.  I am running out of gas earlier and earlier each day.  He said it will keep going for the next three weeks or so, then will start letting up little by little. He recommended taking two aspirin to help the fatigue....has anyone else heard of this? I think I'll wait to talk to my regular doctor about it.

     29 down, 4 to go!

  • unklezwifeonty
    unklezwifeonty Member Posts: 1,710
    edited February 2010

    14 down, 7 to go.



  • one-L
    one-L Member Posts: 1,110
    edited February 2010

    24 down, 9 to go.

  • weety
    weety Member Posts: 1,163
    edited February 2010

    20 down, 7 to go!

  • cookiegal
    cookiegal Member Posts: 3,296
    edited February 2010

    Hey Dawgs! Bow wow!

    Glad to report I am feeling better.

    I hope most of you don't get this, but the SE's really started after treatment we over. My nurse case manager actually called it to the day when I would start feeling better.

    I had about 2-3 weeks of feeling very tired and cloudy in the head, however I had almost none of this during treatment.

    I did not have any Xrays...what are they looking for? Cancer?

    Anyhow I am feeling like myself again, though I am behind on everything.

    Hugs to all the fabulous radiant 1/10 atomic dawgs!

  • mom2acat
    mom2acat Member Posts: 556
    edited February 2010

    (((HUGS))) to all, and prayers going out to those not finished yet, and to those that are finished but still healing.

    My rads were to my spine. I finished up on Feb. 9th. Still having problems with my stomach from the rads; bad heartburn and acid reflux; I'm pretty sure I have some gastritis. I saw my internist again about a week and a half ago; he agrees with the rad. onc. that it will take 3 months for my stomach to heal.

    I'm still on Kapidex, Carafate, and a bland diet.

  • jakhope
    jakhope Member Posts: 133
    edited February 2010

    Today will be my halfway point. 18 full breast done, 8 to go and then 9 boosts. I will have a scan tomorrow, as it was pointed out, will be my halfway point. I am having more and more of an itchy rash on my upper chest. Applying now three times ady Cortaid, but it does not seem to help.Any suggestions?

  • DebbieSawyer
    DebbieSawyer Member Posts: 133
    edited February 2010

    Hey gals! Congrats and well done (no pun intended) to Sido for finishing rads!!!!! Onty, One-L, RedheadPam, weety911, 1rarebird: the finish line is just up ahead---you can do it! Cookie, good to hear you're getting back to your "norm". Hi and HIGH FIVE to (((Sophie))), daylilyfan, karen1959, tangi-girl and all the 1/10's, and Feb group.

    Best wishes to everyone for a complete healing from rads; and my thoughts are with you as we travel down our various roads in this strange journey.

    Hugs,

    Debbie 

  • precioustime
    precioustime Member Posts: 233
    edited February 2010

    Today will be 18 down and 15 to go!  I'm over that hump!!!  So far I have itching in the middle of my upper chest due to having RADS to internal mammary areas.  I was prescribed a miracle wash due to the fact that it's a little difficult to swallow while eating (this helps numb the throat)--suggested to take Pepcid for (belching) and was told to use some Cortizone 10 under my arm area where the RAD Dr. noticed some skin irritation.   I was wearing one of my husbands Cotton T-Shirts with a V-Neck last night to let air get to my chest-- but the RAD Doctor said to wear a Cotton Shirt that covers all the chest area???  I thought I had read where some women said it was good to let air get to the Radiated areas?

    On Monday I had gotten sick 30 min. before going to RAD appt.  The Doctor could tell I was a little frustrated from this whole process and gave me a hug and told me "I've been through alot" and this will soon be over -- that I can make it!!!  In all that-- it's nice to have a Doctor that actually cares about their patients and I appreciate that! 

    Loretta

  • cookiegal
    cookiegal Member Posts: 3,296
    edited February 2010
    JAKHOPE.....I had a very bad rash during tx 2-3...what they said to do was put on the cortizone first...then 20 minutes later do the aquaphor.  Also they were fine with me using Eucerin sometimes instead, they said aquaphor can make you itchy. The suggestion worked quickly.
  • AsiaYM
    AsiaYM Member Posts: 2,216
    edited February 2010

    18 down, 15 to go! Just tanned so far, no other SE yet.

  • tangi-girl
    tangi-girl Member Posts: 13
    edited February 2010

    I am done!  Hoo Rah!  Hang in there, gals!

  • one-L
    one-L Member Posts: 1,110
    edited February 2010

    25 down, 8 to go.  1 regular and 7 boosts.  I can see the finish line.  Got a big black mark right on my nipple, looks funny. 

    Congrats Tangi-girl and to everyone else that is finishing up this week.  Feels good doesn't it?

  • Sido
    Sido Member Posts: 234
    edited February 2010

    Done! Done! Dittle-de-de!!!  I got a certificate and everything!

    Today was the first day without a doctor's appointment.  I almost didn't know what to do with myself (though a faculty meeting took up the time nicely.) 

    Congrats Tangi-girl!  One by one we're all coming to the end.

    Aroooo!

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