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  • leta17
    leta17 Member Posts: 120
    edited February 2010

    Hi, FYI, if anyone is in Atlanta or nearby, there is a Young Survivors BC Conference there this weekend...It looks like they post transcripts and video after the event too for those of us not in the area.

    http://www.youngsurvivorsconference.org/

  • staceyt
    staceyt Member Posts: 106
    edited February 2010

    Hi Donna,

    I went to the website headcovers.com and order a sleep cap, and a few scarves.  I had them in 5 days.

    Best to all.

    Stacey

  • faithfulc
    faithfulc Member Posts: 284
    edited February 2010

    I've noticed a little bit stubble on the top of my head today.  Just in time for my 2nd TC tomorrow.  (On the sides and back there is no hair at all and scalp is very smooth.)

    Can someone tell me if hair/stubble grows in between treatments?  And if it does, would the little growth fall off again once a new round of chemo goes in?  Just wondering if I'm looking at regular stubble maintenance for the next 3-4 months.  If there is any new growth only to fall off again, I'd probably be shaving rather than duct taping...

  • CinD
    CinD Member Posts: 163
    edited February 2010

    Faithfulc, did you shave your head before all of your hair fell out, or did it just go on its own? Mine started falling out slowly four days ago, and today it seems to be coming out quickly. My scalp has ached the past couple of nights while trying to sleep, so I'm hoping that will stop when the hair is gone. I still can't bring myself to buzz it off, but I have a feeling it will be gone shortly anyways. I have a few head coverings ready but just ordered a chemo scarf off eBay to have something more lightweight now that it's getting warm here.

    I hope those starting this week have an easy time and that everyone is doing well. My second infusion is this Friday, and I have an expander fill the day before. Keeping my fingers crossed for all of us.

    Cindy

  • faithfulc
    faithfulc Member Posts: 284
    edited February 2010

    CinD, between last Friday night and Sunday morning, my hair fell off so quickly it was hard to catch up.  I felt like every time I showered half of my hair came off.  When it looked like I only had about 2% of my hair left, I cut them and then on Monday night I shaved what was left, which was virtually nothing. 

    When I only had a few strands left, I thought about braiding them - but they were few and far in between.  :)

  • writer
    writer Member Posts: 208
    edited February 2010

    Faithful and Cindy, mine is starting to go, too (day 16), but just larger groups of strands, not clumps yet. I don't want to get to that point where it's all over my pillow, but I'm also pretty shaky about shaving it. I guess I just have to bite the bullet and do it tomorrow-- my stylist, who's a friend, is on call to come to the house to do it for me.

     I'm feeling great on this third week... bummer that the going-bald thing has to rain on my happy parade.....

  • mebrown
    mebrown Member Posts: 74
    edited February 2010

    burley  I said I'd let you know about putting the numbing cream on the port. It worked great!  I felt just a small prick and it did not hurt afterwards. I'll be using the numbing cream before labs and treatment from now on.

    I started losing my hair yesterday and my scalp is aching too. I guess it won't be long now that I'll be joining faithfulc. 

  • faithfulc
    faithfulc Member Posts: 284
    edited February 2010

    CinD, Writer, mebrown, sorry that your hair is beginning to fall, too.  I'm really p*ssed about all this waiting - waiting to get diagnosis, to have surgery, to start chemo, and to witness the hair fallout.  But you know what, each time it turns out that the actual deal is better than the waiting itself.  Now that I have no hair, the scalp feels so much better and cleaner.  No more aches.  No more searching for hair on my pillow (although I did wear a mesh cap at night, hair finds a way through it somehow).  It feels a bit cold up there, but I guess I'm getting used to it.

    Thank goodness that I have a door that I can close at work so if I need a break I just pull off my wig and hide.


    Diagnosis: 12/9/2009, IDC, 1cm, Stage IIa, Grade 2, 3/9 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-

  • MomoB
    MomoB Member Posts: 68
    edited February 2010

    Hello Ladies,

    Day 2 of taxol is done,  ok so far.  grdnslve, thanks for adding my info to the beninning

    of the post!   I am somewhat limited in my computer knowledge.  I am reading eveyone's

    chemo type, etc.  Is TC the same as taxol?

    Going to rest now.  I will try to log on more often to see how you are all doing.

    Hugs and good thoughts!

    ps - I gave myself a nickname!  My grandson said he didn't want me to be bald, grouchy,

    and tired.  (I'm already grouchy)  So I told him, he could call me T-BUG for tired, bald,

    ugly, and grouchy.

  • writer
    writer Member Posts: 208
    edited February 2010

    Hmm, my head's not achy at all, and mebrown, I'm a day ahead of you. It's just itchy. Maybe I'll be spared the aches.... or maybe if I buzz it tomorrow I can skip the achy stage? I guess my hair is hanging in longer than some others. I hope that's a good omen for my eyebrows and eyelashes....

  • Ezscriiibe
    Ezscriiibe Member Posts: 598
    edited February 2010

    Writer, my scalp is doing some odd things right now too!

    Though I wouldn't call it "itchy," I first tried to describe it as "tingly" and then sort of like ants marching under the skin.

    But on reflection, it's more like I can feel the follicles "puckering." It's like they "pucker" then relax, then "pucker," then relax for a while, then it moves to another area and repeats!

    I guess you could say, then, they are getting ready to kiss my scalp goodbye! LOL

  • leta17
    leta17 Member Posts: 120
    edited February 2010

    momoB - Taxol is short for Paclitaxol and is different than the Taxotere ('T' in TC), I don't know the specific drug differences, but have heard that is tolerated much better than T, A or C...Benedryl is given with Taxotere due to the high percentage of women who have an allergic reaction to it.

    Thanks for the comments on Vitamin D...I forgot that I had posted it before...bad short term memory these days along with other crazy things...like I took my house phone to work instead of my cell phone...I was like what the heck???    My husband bought me flowers and he timed me at 10 minutes before I noticed them after walking by them a few times and then sitting down 2 feet from them, I was like OH!!!  Flowers!!!  Where did they come from??? Duh!!   Its a good thing I can laugh at myself and blame the chemo, otherwise, I would seriously get my head checked!!!  LOL

    Sorry to hear others are loosing their hair and I totally agree with faithfulc that the anticipation is worse than when it is OFF....although I now have acne on my head...need to research what I should be putting on my scalp??  Any thoughts??

    Thanks for sharing everyone, we will get through this together!!

    Leta

  • burley
    burley Member Posts: 631
    edited February 2010

    Day 12 and I haven't lost one hair...hmmm.  The anticipation is killing me-my scalp is very itchy and a little tingly at times.  My hairdresser is a good friend, and she's at the ready with her clippers!

    My lingering side effect through all of this has been diahrea (sorry, had to say it), and it's driving me crazy.  Luckily I haven't had to go anywhere for long periods of time...not bad enough that I want to take any meds and become constipated.  Ugh.  I hate talking about bowel issues.

  • retrievermom
    retrievermom Member Posts: 522
    edited February 2010

    Like others posting, my hair started coming out in earnest a few days ago.  Had it shaved yesterday by a friend who is also a stylist.  He worked on my wig and got it looking ok.  I wore it to work today, and though I like the hairstyle and color, it feels mighty tight.  By the time I got home, I was anxious to "take off my head."  I imagine I'll be wearing hats and scarves much of the time.  We have a local cancer closet with freebies, and I got a few knitted hats to wear.  Thanks to this site, I ordered from headcovers.com as well.

    Stocked up for next tx on Thurs.  I know now how much I should be hydrating before and during, and what I can take for stomach issues, so hope this time will be easier.  Since my DH is leaving town tomorrow, a friend will be going with me to the clinic.  She's offered to stay with me all day if I want.  It's heartening how some folks step up.  

    However, not all folks do, and I'm a bit tired of some of my co-workers' curiousity and questions.  I realize they see me only on my good days and think things are going fine.  They know fatigue is a SE of chemo, and don't realize I've felt really sick at times.  "So, when's your hair going to fall out?"  is hard when you're putting off the inevitable buzz.  I put on my prickly armor when I go out and save my meltdowns for home.

    Thanks for the planetbuff recommendation, too.  My college son's hair is to his shoulders.  I'm planning to pass on my buffs to him when I'm done with all this.  He can use them as ponytail holders. 

  • CinD
    CinD Member Posts: 163
    edited February 2010

    Faithfulc, thanks for the information, and I'm glad to hear your head feels better without the hair. I know what you mean about all of the waiting. All of the waiting has been crazy, but the waiting for the path reports and all of the test results drove me halfway insane. I keep holding on to the fact that by the week after Easter, the chemo will be done -- the infusions, anyway. I'm just starting to see that light at the end of the tunnel, and it's not a reflection from my head because strangely enough, I still have hair.

    This is day 5 of hair loss, and my husband told me this morning my hair looks almost normal. I don't think so, but you know men. The back feels thin, but he assured me there are no gaps. Yesterday large strands came off in my hand every time I went into the backyard, so I really thought it would be gone completely this morning. At least it's an overall thinning rather than clumps. My head didn't ache much in the night, I guess because so much hair came out yesterday. Sorry to hear others are losing their hair or getting the itches, tingles, or puckers. I'm hoping my hair makes it thru tomorrow when I see the plastic surgeon, but I know that's probably unrealistic. I've always had a thick mop on top, so I guess it's taking it a little longer.

    Ado and Salsoda62, good luck today with your first treatments. Everyone else, have a good one!

    Cindy 

  • writer
    writer Member Posts: 208
    edited February 2010

    ariesrottie, about the sleep caps... personally I think I'd get tangled up in those big ones. The best-looking bald person I know is my very cool friend Jim, a jazz musician who went bald at 23 and has been shaving what little he has for a very long time. He often wears the small, simple, non-itchy beanies that you can get at good sporting goods or ski shops, the kind that hug the head and don't poof up on top. He says they're great for sleeping, too. I've already gotten a few hats and old-school bandanas but haven't gotten one of those beanies yet-- maybe tonight after work.

    ennayttap, I think I have a throat infection, too, but it's not thrush-- just sort of a permanent sore throat and just enough stuff in my chest to get me coughing at night. I finally broke down and started taking the antibiotics they gave me-- couldn't tell if it was just a normal little cold or an infection, but on the fourth night of coughing, I thought I'd better try the antibiotics (I hate to take them because we build up antibiotic immunity if we take them too often). After three pills, no coughing last night, so maybe it was an infection. Is yours in your chest? Or just a sore throat? I've never had anything like this.

    Mofend, so hilarious about the cat!! I know my dog is going to bark at me after I shave my head. She barked at me after I got my short pre-chemo cut, and gets scared when people wear big hats.

    Day 17, and my hair is still hanging in there! It's tough, I'm happy to say. Strands coming out, but not fast yet. 

    My best friend from high school is coming out from the east coast next week for my second round of TCHA.... nice to have something to look forward to that cuts the worry about how I'll react to round 2. And really, it's been like my birthday all the time-- so much attention from my friends and family. One friend yesterday gave me my first installment in what she's calling The Dangly Earrings of the Month Club, to ease my way through bald life. Such wonderful friends I have.

    Meeting with the nutritionist today to see if we can come up with a plan that will spare me the full week of intestinal misery for future rounds. I will share any insights, because a couple of you have had the same issues.

    Finally, regarding vitamin D, I'm taking it, although I haven't been tested, but suddenly everyone's talking about it. My husband has type 2 diabetes (very strong in his family), and his endocrinologist did extensive blood tests and found him terribly deficient in D, even though he plays a lot of tennis and gets sun. He's been on mega doses and it was still low, so he's on even more now. His endo believes it is strongly linked with diabetes. It's been linked to other issues, too. So we might as well take it....

  • Ezscriiibe
    Ezscriiibe Member Posts: 598
    edited February 2010

    Hi, ladies, just checking in. So many of you are my heros! I'm also glad to see that we have relatively few serious side effect complications among us.

    One thing that is helping me is the Side Effect Tracking Worksheet from the American Cancer Society.

    As I record and track the various things going on, I can easily tell if a pattern is developing and then I can figure out what to do about it.

    Like right now, the "fuzzy" mouth is beginning. Not thrush, I don't think. Just a loss of some taste.

    My follicles are still "puckering" on me, but no hair dropping off yet. I tell you, that's just beginning to annoy me! Fall out, already! Quit dragging it out!

    Here is a link to the side effect worksheet:

    http://www.cancer.org/docroot/MON/content/MON_1_Chemotherapy_Worksheet_to_Track_Side_Effects.asp?

  • MomoB
    MomoB Member Posts: 68
    edited February 2010

    Hello ladies,

    Thanks Leta17 for the info.  Ezscriiibe, thanks for that link.  I was just telling my

    friend yesterday that I remembered seeing one someplace and was going to look

    for it. 

  • staceyt
    staceyt Member Posts: 106
    edited February 2010

    Well Ladies it looks as if I will have to leave this thread.  I am no longer a start chemo in Feb girl.  I was suppose to start tomorrow but not having heard from anyone I called and now I am a March chemo girl.  I will begin my treatment on Tues March 2.  but I would love to stay Tongue out

  • lbreedl
    lbreedl Member Posts: 59
    edited February 2010

    Well I found out the chemo is working! Woohoo! Had an appt. With onc & the 'tumah' had already shrunk quite a bit. Praise God! She was very suprised it had responded so fast! Now my hair is coming out too, but I'm thankful and am thinking it's the chemo doing it's job!! We have grown to be a big group for such a short month.

    I have felt very normal and really can't complain about much. I have not taken any of the prescribed meds yet. They did say Taxol builds up and you feel it more each time. I'm now 1/3 finished with TH!

    Went wig shopping with hubby on Monday after Dr visit. Walked into World of wigs, Asian girl said" you looking for wig?" Yes, I replied. " oh, what color you like?" I pointed to my hair, this color. " oh, you want short?" I said, no, kinda like I have now. So she says "why you want wig? Your hair so pretty!" ARG!!

  • Grazie47
    Grazie47 Member Posts: 94
    edited February 2010

    Shedding like a dog.

    While eating breakfast hair fell onto the plate, well that was the last straw, went into the bathroom and shaved my head.  

    I guess one more step in the process.

  • Grazie47
    Grazie47 Member Posts: 94
    edited February 2010

    Stacey - stay with us, we have grown attached to ya.

    Ilbreed- wonderful news about your shrinking 'tumuhhhhhhh", God is good.

  • frosty1
    frosty1 Member Posts: 420
    edited February 2010

    A friend just told me about this book his niece received when she went through chemo "Betty Crocker Living with Cancer Cookbook."  Sounds strange, but it has all sorts of tips and tricks on what to eat when you are going through chemo and handling the many SEs.  I just picked up a copy today and it is a nice resource.  Writer -- might be worth checking out for your intestinal issues. 

    Stacey -- come on over to March!  I start March 3, but had hoped to be earlier as well.

  • Ezscriiibe
    Ezscriiibe Member Posts: 598
    edited February 2010

    Frosty, Stacy, do both! Feb AND March! **waves**

  • faithfulc
    faithfulc Member Posts: 284
    edited February 2010

    Ladies, I am resting after my 2nd TC treatment today.  Eventless.  The Neulasta shot got my wbc up to 4.3, so treatment went ahead just like the last time.  I'm getting Neulasta on Friday (2 days from now).  I still have 2 Anzemet pills from last time (I was prescribed 5 and took 3), so they gave me one sample pill for me to have a 3-day supply again.  That was very nice - these pills are expensive (I paid $100 for the 5 last time).

    Wondering how teemee is doing with her infection ordeal... From her last post she's supposed to be off IV and switching to oral antibiotics by now.

    Staceyt and frosty1, please keep us posted!  I'll still keep you two on our top list.

  • writer
    writer Member Posts: 208
    edited February 2010

    I spoke too soon this morning about my hair hanging in there. It started coming out in handfuls an hour later, and in the shower it was coming out fast. My stylist friend is coming over in a hour to buzz me. Aarghhh....

  • writer
    writer Member Posts: 208
    edited February 2010

    And yes, Frosty and Stacy, stay with us!

    Also, I had a GREAT meeting with the chemo/cancer nutritionist today. Should have gone there before the first round-- I didn't even know my hospital (Huntington UCLA) offers it for free. If any of you are just starting out and have such a person, go!

    Will post later about her advice. I'm much more confident about round 2 on Monday-- I feel like we can control the intestinal SEs more. 

  • ginadmc
    ginadmc Member Posts: 263
    edited February 2010
    faithfulc - thank you for your key points! I start AC 2/26 and will take your advice to heart. I also like the ginger root information from grdnslve. I'm anxious to get started but nervous about the side effects.
  • ginadmc
    ginadmc Member Posts: 263
    edited February 2010
    Donna - I had good luck with www.headcovers.com. They had a big selection of hats, scarves, etc.
  • mebrown
    mebrown Member Posts: 74
    edited February 2010

    my hair fell out in handfuls as well yesterday. I figured I would look in the mirror and have spots missing but I don't. I was told I had a lot of hair just very fine. Now I believe it. I figure in a few more days it will be gone. I'm going to hang onto it until I can see my scalp then I'll have my DH buzz it.

    writer good luck with your treatment today. I have my 2nd round tomorrow. 

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