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  • KatRNagain92
    KatRNagain92 Member Posts: 522
    edited February 2010

    Morning girls...

    Marianne...sorry about the dismal days in TN.  It doesn't help that were in the midst of an ice age AND we have breast cancer.  Is there no justice?  I guess one way to look at it is that we're cooped up during the absolute worst part of winter.  I'm really hoping to be at 100% come summer time.  Good luck today on your Oncotype!  Sending good vibes your way. 

    Cathy, what part of Ontario are you from?  I was born and raised in Windsor and my aunt is a Breast Cancer volunteer in Techumseh.  I've spoken with her a few times (eh) and she talks about the different way things are done in the great white north.  (wild)

    Well...I'm suffering from horrible horrible insomnia.  I can't remember if the ladies that were complaining of it a while ago were about 3 weeks out like I am but to quote (Marianne) "I would sell my soul for some sleep right about now"  I can't nap during the day and at night I'm getting 5 hours tops.  I may go to my regular doc and see about some ambien or something....something!

    Hey Tiffany, I saw the ASA thing on MSN this morning and I posted on another forum...I took aspirin for years and still got breast cancer.  I'll keep taking it but for cardiac reasons....and just hope that the tamoxifen does what it's supposed to do. 

    Well, going to shower up.  I have a cleaning lady today (hooray!) so I have to clean for the cleaning lady.  It will be soooo worth it.  (husband and teenager are sleeping on the job...at least someone is sleeping!)

    Have a great day ladies
    Kat

  • TNgolfer
    TNgolfer Member Posts: 253
    edited February 2010

    Kat,

    Clean for the cleaning lady.....DON'T DO IT!!!!!!  (but I totally understand).  As for the sleep issue which is a tough one for all of us.  Try some benedryl.  My surgeon recommended 50mg at night.  I took 25mg (and it worked for me, but I am a lightweight). 

    Tiffany, you are so right.  I think we have all been amazed and surprised at who in our circle of family and friends will be the best supporters for us.  I have a really close friend and I was just amazed at her response; it was kind of a cavalier "you are strong, and lots of people get through this"....not what I needed to hear.  I think we have all learned as we travel through life that sometimes the best friend just offers comfort (and certainly not advice about something they have never experienced).  Surround yourself with those that comfort you!!

    Off to the onc today!

    Marianne

  • cornellalum
    cornellalum Member Posts: 191
    edited February 2010

    Hi all! I'm actually posting over on the February surgery thread, since my surgery was last week, but I had a quick question I wanted to ask you gals since you have all already had surgery. I am having issues with one of my drains.  The skin around it is swollen and red and very sore.  I put some antibiotic cream on it, and covered it with gauze.  Here's my question - I have an appointment with my BS tomorrow, and I'm not sure if I should wait until then to see him.  I talked to his nurse, and she said that it would probably be OK to wait as long as I don't have a fever (I don't).  And since it is a 2 hour drive to the doctor's, it is not easy to just go.  So my question is whether any of you had a problem with infection at the drains, and what did your bs do about it?

    Thanks for your help.

  • KatRNagain92
    KatRNagain92 Member Posts: 522
    edited February 2010

    Hi Cornellalum...

    Are you taking your Keflex?  Maybe ask the BS if he wants you to give yourself a bolus dose...i.e. take 2 instead of 1.  If you start running a temp he may want to give you a shot of rocephin (in your butt) and/or pull the drain so don't mess around with an infection! 

    Good luck!
    Kat

  • robinlbe
    robinlbe Member Posts: 585
    edited February 2010

    I'm back....feeling LOTS better....guess I just had some really bad days last week.  Sorry I vented on you all, but thank you for being so loving, so understanding, so encouraging.  I am so blessed to have you as my cyber-friends, and my support group.  There's a lot going on right now, too - my son who is a freshman in college-three hours away- is kind of on the miserable side right now, struggling for several reasons (not grades), my mom (a widow, who is also three hours away) is still recovering from her surgery is fighting depression and looks to me for her support, which I am NOT being right now, and she keeps telling me to "stay encouraged" and just really doesn't *get* what I'm going through...seeing it through her 74 y.o. eyes, AND I'm fighting my school system who is wanting to dock me a half-sick day for my 40 minute work day (that they begged me to do for them to HELP them out after school started - which had I known cancer lurked in my future I would never have agreed to)......anyway, all that kind of hit the fan last week, along with my emotions, and it was too much.

    BUT, I'm better now :)

    Thank you again for being here for me.....I am so, so, so grateful!!!

    My next post (which, I guaranteed will be LONG!!!) will be the story of the mug....

    blessings...robin

  • cornellalum
    cornellalum Member Posts: 191
    edited February 2010

    Kat - I assume that Keflex is an antibiotic? I was never given any antibiotics after the surgery.  All I am taking is percocet.  I am now 10 days past surgery.  Hmmmm, maybe I better go see the doctor today, huh?  Thanks for your reply.

  • robinlbe
    robinlbe Member Posts: 585
    edited February 2010

    We were gone over Christmas, and returned home on Sunday, Dec. 27th.  On Tuesday, Dec. 29th.  That morning, about 10am, my youngest son hollered - MOM, there are a bunch of boxes and stuff on our front porch.  I went out, and sure enough, there were about 6 or 7 boxes, baskets and things on the porch.  Here's what I found.

    1) "on the 1st day of Christmas my true love gave to me, a partridge in a pear tree.  On the first day of Christmas, my friend gave to me: A patridge ornament in an ivy "tree"!"  There was a holly tree with a pear ornament in it, along with a "partridge in a pear tree" ornament.  Also, a box with a baby Jesus (for a nativity set), along with a little poem.  The verse also related what this symbolized - Jesus .

    2) "On the 2nd day of Christmas, my true love game to me, two turtle doves.  Actual turtle doves are hard to catch and not common around here, but turtle candy and dove chocolate can be found most any time of year!"  This package included Dove candy and turtle candy, and some other items.  This symbolized the Old and New Testaments.  Included was the manger and a little verse to go along with it.

    3)"On the 3rd day of Christmas, my true love gave to me, three French hens.  On the 3rd day of Christmas, my friend gave to me: some relaxing things to do when you have time that is 'free' "  This symbolized the three theological virtures - faith, hope, love.  Included in this beautifully wrapped basket were books of all kinds, a photo album, teas, etc.    Joseph and a verse were included.

    4)"On the 4th day of Christmas, my true love gave to me, Four calling birds.  Some calling birds?  Maybe.  At least some to see."  This beautiful basket included a bird feeder, bird seed, a suet holder, suet, coffee mugs, etc.  This symbolized the four Gospels.  Mary and a verse were included.

    5) "On the 5th day of Christmas, my true love gave to me, five gold rings.   On the 5th day of Christmas, my friend gave to me" FIVE GOLDEN RINGS (or more)!"  Included this time was a gift card to Krispe Kreme donuts and a calendar to there full of coupons!  This symbolized the first five books of the Old Testament.  The angel and a verse came for that day.

    These items were on the porch that day.  Obviously the person knew we had been out of town.  Each gift also included an ornament for that day of Christmas, as well.  I didn't realize it was going to continue.....

  • robinlbe
    robinlbe Member Posts: 585
    edited February 2010

    I had planned to open up just one day at a time.  On Wednesday morning, when my husband awoke and went to get the paper at 6:30AM (still dark), there was another gift on the porch.  He came upstairs and said, "you'd better get opening your gifts;  there's another".

     Day 6 - On the 6th day of Christmas, my true love gave to me, six geese a laying.  YOu really wouldn't want six geese making messes everywhere, so we've left what the geese have laid with tender loving care."  This represented the six days of creation.  There was a cute little basket lined with fabric with GEESE....with six plastic eggs filled with hershey kisses, laying on a bed of mints.  That day a little sheep and a verse came for the nativity set.

    The next morning, there was another LARGE pink bag awaiting on the porch - again before the sun had arisen.  Day 7 -  On the 7th day of Christmas, my true love gave to me, Seven Swans a-swimming.  On the 7th day of Christmas, my friend gave to me: a reminder of the HOPE that Jesus gave to you and me!"  This represented the 7 gifts of the Holy Spirit.  This pink bag was FULL of packages all wrapped in pink - a pink snuggie, a pink fleece blanket, a pink fleece scarf with the pink ribbon symbol, pink socks, my PINK MUG that I'm drinking from, the words HOPE and FAITH that now sit on one of my window sills, a pink neck pillow, and so, so much more.  A little donkey and verse came that day.

    The next day, again before day and in near zero temperatures, my husband found another package on our front porch.  Day 8 -  ON the 8th day of Christmas, my true love game to me, Eight maids a-milking.  The eight maids are through milking and they've left a reminder or two, they want you to know we are still thinking of you!"  This symbolized teh eight Beatitudes.  In this bag was a gift card to Dairy Queen, and five travel mugs (there are five of us in our family) and a special kind of hot chocolate in each mug.  There was a shepherd and a verse.

    The following day, which was a Saturday, there was nothing on the porch.  And I was ok with that.  I was so thankful that whomever was doing this had been so thoughtful to help me through these days while I was awaiting surgery (my surgery was Jan. 6 - ephiphany day).....HOwever, that morning, about 10am, as I was getting ready, I was just looking out my bedroom window which faces out front.  As I was just looking, I saw this young girl in her late teens, kind of sneaking with something in her arms, coming toward my house....then my dog started barking.  At that, the girl took off running toward my house.  And then, I saw her head back in the direction from where she had come.  I, of course, was curious.  So I stayed at the window to see what kind of car would come from that direction.  After about five minutes,  a car (that I have never seen) drove by the front of my house VERY slowly.....I didn't recognize anyone inside.  A couple of minutes later, my phone rang, and a young voice said, "check your front porch", and then hung up.  I did so, and there on my front porch, was a beautiful basket with gorgeous fruit!!!  Professionally done!!  Day 9 - On the 9th day of Christmas my true love gave to me, Nine ladies dancind.  On the 9th day of Christmas, a friend left for you:  A tasty reminder of the nine fruits of the spirit for you and your crew!'  This symbolized the fruits of the spirit.  And there were NINE different kinds of fruit.  And there was a wiseman and a verse inside the basket.

    more to come.....

  • KatRNagain92
    KatRNagain92 Member Posts: 522
    edited February 2010

    How wonderful for you Robin!  The Lord works in wonderful mysterious ways!  Just when you need him the most, he is there. 

  • pbebow
    pbebow Member Posts: 575
    edited February 2010

    Kat:

    I'm a few posts behind but wanted to comment on your question about the sagging TE foobs...  When  I went in for my first fill my PS pressed on my foobs and asked if they were getting softer, which they were (although not necessarily sagging) and he said that meant that they were ready for a fill!  So, you DH was correct!  And believe it or not, my foobs are starting to soften up again, I didn't think that it would happen after my 150 cc's fill, but must be they're getting ready for the next fill on Monday, although it won't be another 150 cc's... 100 tops!

    I am actually on another trip right now.  I am at the Cancer Treatment Center of America in Illionois... a very good friend and neighbor was diagnosed with BC about a month or 2 before me and this is where she has her treatment so I came with her for her 2 days of tests and appts.  It is an amazing place, I have to say!  Everyone here is very nice and helpful.  She was the reason that I requested my mamogram this year that detected my DCIS and she happened to be sitting with me when I recieved my call with the bad news.  So, we are getting through this together.  She came today thinking she would be meeting with her PS to schedule her reconstruction (she had the Bimx without recon. in Oct)... but found out that he is not available now until June, so that was a little disappointing, but as with all BC stuff, ya gotta go with the flow.  Anyway, after her appts today we are headed to the mall for some shopping therapy and the to the Rain Forest Cafe for good food and margaritas!!!  Blessings to all and here's hoping for good news and good test results!

    Oh, just wanted to comment on one other thing... I have been telling every that I have a new theory...  You know how men think with their, um, p......, well, I have decided that apparently my brains were stored in my breast tissue, because they are gone!!!!  (will finish later, on to next appt!

    Paula

  • robinlbe
    robinlbe Member Posts: 585
    edited February 2010

    The next day was Sunday.  Before church nothing was there, but as soon as we arrived home, my angel(s) had delivered.  Day 10 - On the 10th day of Christmas, my true love gave to me...ten lords a-leaping.  Lords a leaping?  Sounds like too much activity to me!  HOw about some FROGS (fully relyon God)?  as a reminder of His Love for you and me?"  This symbolized the ten commandments.  In this bag were a pillow that said, "when in doubt, take a leap in faith", a frog holding a sign that said "believe', frog stickers (some that said FROG), and a beautiful windchime.  A wiseman and verse accompanied this.

    Day 11 - "On the 11th day of Christmas my true love gave to me...Eleven pipers piping.  They overbooked the pipers piping, sorry to say, we had to come up with some creative "piping" for your family on this wintry day."  This symbolized the eleven faithful Apostles.  I found a garden flag post in my yard with a flag hanging that said, "Amazing Grace, How sweet the sound" with music notes on it.  Included in this bag were other small flags for other seasons for this flag post, a nice sized nutcracker playing a bagpipe, a beautiful tote bag with music on the outside, CD's recorded for us, music sickers, music notepad, music ornaments, etc.  Another wiseman and verse to join the others.

    Day 12 - the day before my surgery. "On the 12th day of Christmas, my true love gave to me, twelve drummers drumming.  With this "drum o'fun", ours comes to an end, hope you've had a very merry holiday season - with love, a friend."  This symbolized the Apostle's Creed.  On my porch, we found a HUGE barrel filled with wrapped packages.  We decided to open up one a day, and found another nutcracker- this one playing the drums.  Also, puzzles, card games, board games, fancy popcorn, gift cards to restaurants, the movies, etc.  And the last piece to our nativity scene with a verse.

    To this day, I still don't know who or what group is responsible for this amazing gift of love.  I was truly overwhelmed that someone would go to so much work, effort, time for me....so much organization, cost, dedication, etc. etc....but as you all know, the last week of waiting for that surgery is so hard....and it was terribly hard on me.

    This helped me out so much.  I wish there would be some way of really thanking whomever is behind this.  I did leave out a thank you note on my door one night, and it was taken - so hopefully, they got it :)    Now, I will just "pay it forward"......but I would love to write about it, to share it with others....if only I could come up with a way where it wouldn't be boring, you know?

    Anyway, if you actually took the time to read through ALL of this, you are amazing....shew.  Because there was a LOT to read.....I tried to be as brief and to the point as possible....

    Praying for everyone every day....

    Blessings...Robin

  • frosty1
    frosty1 Member Posts: 420
    edited February 2010

    Hey all -- Robin I love your secret 'true loves'  What a great way to wake up each morning!

    To the poster asking about foobs:  I got my foob last week, 4 weeks out.  It really depends on your healing.  My scar is healed and I have no swelling or pain, so she said go ahead.  I tried the regular foob, but went with a new model that is whipped silicone, so it is not as heavy.  I don't even notice it and it looks great.  You can wear it with a regular bra with or without a pocket.

    I feel guilty about the weather -- here in Seattle we have had absolutely gorgeous weather.  Even at the beach.  It has been sunny and in the upper 40's mid 50's so I've been out walking every day.  I find the walk makes a difference.  That and my Wii -- love the exercise program!

  • faithandfifty
    faithandfifty Member Posts: 10,007
    edited February 2010

    just popping in from the ocean -- where it is full sun, glorious blue sky and absolutely COLD.

    it was down to freezing last night.

    Wow.

    we walked the beach into the fierce wind this morning -- loving the salt & the gulls -- wrapped in layers and layers of sweatshirts, hoods, hats, vest over top of that.

    xx00xx00xx00xx

  • Lynbob
    Lynbob Member Posts: 140
    edited February 2010

    Just doropping in to offer hugs and love {hugs}  As I read I keep thinking, oooh I can post to her and her and her etc. I would be typing all morning and I don't want to leave anyone out. Just know that I am keeping you all in my heart and prayers {hugs}

  • burley
    burley Member Posts: 631
    edited February 2010

    I'm going to go out on a limb here and ask...what in the world are foobs?  Do I have foobs because I have tissue expanders?  Sounds dumb, but oh well...I have chemo brain (that's my excuse anyway!)

    A little better today-saw the husband for about 45 minutes, and may actually get to eat dinner with him tonight.

    Robin-I am so jealous of your secret elves!  How wonderful to wake up to that-some people are just amazing.  Then there are others who fall completely flat...

    Speaking of that-I am struggling with something my husband has turned a deaf ear to.  My mother-in-law is a breast cancer survivor, however, HAS NOT CALLED ME ONCE, NEVER CAME TO THE HOSPITAL, continutes to forward me usless jokes by email but otherwise has made no effort to see how I'm doing.  She hasn't called my husband either.  I'm completely blown away...speechless (almost.)  I should stop dwelling on it, but hey-I'm not even a month out of having both breasts removed and you'd think she would offer some kind of help...do you need help with the kids?  Can we bring you some food?  Do you need a ride to chemo?  Something?  Nothing.  Unbelievable.

  • ReginaR
    ReginaR Member Posts: 287
    edited February 2010

    Hey Jan buddies I am sorry I havn't post lately I been having  some boo-hoo days.

    I appreciate reading your post It help me get thur rough days!

    I am now 18 day post -op today & still have both drains  too . They driving me crazy, But still haveing 55 cc in one today. I can't figuire it out. The surgeon wont take my out til under 25cc & he wont start filling expander until both drains out.

     Are any of  my TE friends having Rib pain. The expander is causing sharp pain  in my ribs.  Sleeping on my Back doesn't help I am trying pillow for sl releif.

     I do hope you all are getting stronger every day!

    Hugs to all

    Gina

    Regina Robinson
  • TNgolfer
    TNgolfer Member Posts: 253
    edited February 2010

    Greetings,

    It's Marianne.  Met with the oncologist today.  I really liked him.  He took his time, explained everything and was thrilled with my list of comments and questions.  I started my list out with "who I am"; I wanted him to know that I was a person, a mother, a grandmother, and what my professional background was.  He loved it and said he wished all his patients did it!  I had some comments (thought it was a good idea to let him know I was philosophically opposed to chemo).  He agreed to send the sample off for the Oncotype Dx test.  Also gave me some numbers:  if I walked away from treatment right now, there is a 56% chance there will be no recurrence within 10 years.  If I took just hormone therapy (Arimidex for 5 years), there would be a 73% chances there would be no recurrence in 10 years.  If I took chemo and Arimidex, there would be a 78% chance there would be no recurrence in 10 years.  The chemo would be one day every 3 weeks for just 4 times. 

    Back to making decisions.  Have to think about whether chemo is worth a 5% drop in risk.  We will wait for the Oncotype Dx test and see where it falls; he suspects it will be in the middle so we will have the discussion again.

    Also recommended genetic testing.  He was great!

    Marianne

  • neversurrender
    neversurrender Member Posts: 508
    edited February 2010

    Robin - Wow!  You obviously have touched many people and they wanted to lift you up at such a hard time.  You are truly blessed!  I am very glad to have you back with us.

    Ok all, I am having a little problem now.  Last week, my last drain (in my abdomen) was accidentally pulled out.  It was still putting out about 100cc per 24hrs.  I went to PS and we were hoping my binder would keep fluid accumulation to a minimum.  On Monday, I started noticing a bloated feeling.  Tuesday night, my tummy would get upset if I sat upright and the bloating feeling continued.  This morning, I could actually push on one side of my abdomen and watch a "wave" go across to the other side and then feel it swoosh back.  So, off to the PS.  My PS was in surgery, so I had his PA and another PS from the team.  They estimated that there was at least 100+ cc sitting right in the center of my pelvic area.  It is right behind my incision, directly below my belly button.  They decided it must be asperated.  After numerous sticks without much success, they only manage to get 30cc or so out.  Apparently, because of how it is sitting, it kind of swishes around and it isn't really contained to one area.  So they were pushing and pulling all over my abdomen, while PS is repeatedly jabbing trying to get this fluid (they did numb me, so it didn't hurt).  It was finally decided that since there was so much left, and they can't get it, I am going to have to have a drain put back in.  Apparently, I will have to have a CT and a radiologist will pinpoint the spot, drain it, and then place a drain into the area while I am still in CT.  UGH!  I am so disappointed!  I was doing so good and really felt like I was cruising through recovery. 

    On a good note, while at the PS, I had 3 new people see my recon breasts and all were very impressed.  I keep focusing on that (I will have beautiful boobs at the end of this) and am trying not to let the thought of having to have this drain implanted freak me out.  They are also going to test the fluid they took (checking for infection I guess). 

    I have been having dinner delivered every night by friends and a scout troop.  I was actually going to call and stop them, as I was feeling so much better.  Now I think I will hold off until after this drain thing is worked out.   

  • neversurrender
    neversurrender Member Posts: 508
    edited February 2010

    Marianne - It sounds like you have found a good Onc.  I loved that he listened to 'who you are' and all of your questions and doubts about chemo and took the time to explain everything.  So many times, these drs are in such a hurry that they don't seem to hear anything we say.  Good for you.  I am sure having an Onc that you like, trust, and can talk to will make this all a little easier.

  • neversurrender
    neversurrender Member Posts: 508
    edited February 2010

    Burley, it seems there is always someone that you expect to be "there" who just isn't, while someone you wouldn't expect really steps up.  My sister was really there after my dx, she lives in another state, so she called and emailed. She took time off and came to town and was here for my surgery.  She had to go back 2 days after my surgery.  I have not heard from her since - not an email, text, phone call -nothing- :(

    On the flip side, I used to babysit a boy in my neighborhood - he was so bad and destructive at my house - it just didn't work out and his mother and I mutually agreed he should go elsewhere.  We were never friends and just do the "hi" wave when we see each other.  She has brought dinner to my family every Tuesday since my surgery, and is signed up to do 3 or 4 more.  I guess you just never know who it will be that steps up when you are in need.

    There is a song by Kelly Clarkson called Save You.  It sounds to me like it is coming from the point of view of a friend who bales when the other is having a crisis.  When I hear that song, I kind of apply it to my sister and it helps with my frustration with her.

    Holy cow am I long winded tonight :)

  • ariesrottie
    ariesrottie Member Posts: 260
    edited February 2010

    Marianne- I hear you on decision time.. My Oncotype test result are on Friday. Is it worth the 5%????????????????????Loss of hair, all the aches and pains...BAD DAYS......?????I'm sorry just not feeling so great today.  My right TE is just not feeling the same way as the left.           I'm glad you liked your oncologist... I love mine... and will probably do what ever she says to do.

    Robin- good for you and all your elves.... Its wonderful how some people can be so caring.

    Burlay- Hear you on the in laws not even a meal or a call from my father-in law.( He loves to cook) I am so disappointed for my parents are deceased and my mother in law and Father in law only live 8 minuets away from us...... You go figure.

    Well hope everyone sleeps tonight. I will be taking benadrly again tonight..I will be getting only 4-5 hours.

    Strengh and courage,

    Donna

  • TNgolfer
    TNgolfer Member Posts: 253
    edited February 2010

    Burley,

    Just wanted to add what others have already said.  Sometimes, for reasons we may not know or understand, some people just can't step up to the plate.  Sometimes it is just ignorance; they don't know any better---though I don't know how you can give your mother-in-law a pass on this one.  She's been there!  I know it hurts and makes you mad, but save your energy!  For every disappointment, there will be a surprise like "never surrender" said.  I, too, have been surprised by the acts of some relative "strangers" and also disappointed by some close friends.  The only lesson here is that we know we will never disappoint the next one diagnosed.  WE will understand and do the right thing.

    I also hope everyone will sleep well tonight.  I will try to put that 5% in perspective! 

    Prayers for all

    Marianne

  • robinlbe
    robinlbe Member Posts: 585
    edited February 2010

    Sally, ouch, ouch, ouch.....bless your heart.  That's some belly stuff going on....praying for some fluids to start taking care of themselves there.

    Marianne....wow.  decisions, decisions, decisions.  I'm amazed that chemo makes only a 5% difference.  praying for your decision.  (I like your onc. already, too!)

    Gina...you and I have already PMed, but I'm praying for you....roller coaster days are no fun.  Glad to see your picture!

    Burley, I don't think anyone answered you, but the "foob"  - fake boob....I haven't gotten my foobies yet..I keep filling with fluid, and the fluid has to be gone in order to be fitted, so until then, I'm "Robin-no-breast" going flat-chest....and you're not alone. My brother (an OB/GYN) called me about a month after my diagnosis, and I haven't talked to him since....my diagnosis was 11/6/09, and I've had a lumpectomy and a bilateral mastectomy since then.  Oh well. And people that I thought would probably help out, didn't do a thing....and others that I barely knew were bringing me meals.  I rec'd well over 125 cards (which I put up on my door frames), and I was amazed at the people who sent them - not at all the ones I would have suspected.  But I was so blessed by all of them.  Facebook entries and notes have been a blessing, as well....

    And if you haven't made a caring bridge site, you might want to do so....especially for those of you who have longer treatments in the works....they're easy to set up (my daughter set up mine)

    (you can see mine at www.caringbridge.org/visit/reldridge)  then you can update it as you like and your friends and family can check in to see how you're doing, and then leave you notes...it's very encouraging and uplifting....

    praying for each of you daily....(even those of you at the beach and those of you enjoying warm weather...ha!!!!!!)

    blessings....robin

  • KatRNagain92
    KatRNagain92 Member Posts: 522
    edited February 2010

    Wow...the strength from this group never ceases to amaze me. 

    Marianne, I think you got some really positive numbers.  That's right...5 percent.  In the same time frame where they're going to watch you like a hawk.  Sleep well and keep this calm strength that you have, and the right answers will come to you. 

    Night all
    Kat

  • neversurrender
    neversurrender Member Posts: 508
    edited February 2010

    One funny thing from the dr today....the PA actually put her head by my abdomen and then pushed on it, and she could hear it swishing....my own little ocean, kind of like I'm at the beach :)

  • Lynbob
    Lynbob Member Posts: 140
    edited February 2010

    Sally! ahahah! That made me smile :)

  • KatRNagain92
    KatRNagain92 Member Posts: 522
    edited February 2010

    Thats called a Bruit (brooee) and you have an excellent PA!

  • TNgolfer
    TNgolfer Member Posts: 253
    edited February 2010

    Robin,

    The reason that chemo will only make a 5% difference in my case is because my tumor was ER+, which, of course means that type of tumor will respond well to the hormone therapy.  If it were not ER+ it would respond better to chemo.  The doctor really explained it well and actually has a computer program, called Adjuvant Online.  He enters some patient info (age, ER status, tumor grade and size, nodes [+ or neg], what type of chemo he would use and what type of hormone therapy he would recommend, and it calculates the effectiveness of the adjuvant therapy. 

    I was impressed because he answered some questions before I even asked; like what if I just walked away today (haven't we all thought that?).  That answer, in my case, was if I had no additional therapy I would have a 56% chance of being alive and cancer free in 10 years, a 35% chance of a relapse and an 8% chance that I would die of other causes (like driving back and forth to doctor's appointments!)  I know I can't live with that 35% risk of relapse - so doing nothing is not an option for me.  By adding the hormone therapy (Arimidex for 5 years), it lessens the relapse rate by 17%, meaning an 18% chance of relapse with hormone therapy.  If we did only chemo (no hormone therapy) it would only lessen the 35% relapse rate by 8%, making the relapse rate go from 35% to 27% (still too high for me).  If I chose chemo and hormone therapy, the relapse rate would go from 35% to 13%.  So the big question is can I live with a relapse rate of 13% (with chemo & hormone therapy) or a relapse rate of 18% (with the hormone therapy only).  

    Donna, you're right.  It all boils down to whether a 5% reduction in risk is worth all the side effects of chemo.

    I am going to try and relax for 2-3 weeks and wait for the Oncotype Dx report to come back.  I understand that these are just numbers.  No matter what the % of relapse, we never know if we will be in the minority despite all our efforts or beat the odds. 

    In the meantime I, of course, will research the side effects of Cytoxan and Taxotere (the recommended chemo).

    I am sorry for any complications that my cyber sisters are facing.  Always remember this is your life.  Don't worry about calling your doctor's office for any "little thing".  These are not "little things" we are going through.  Most doctor's should understand.  If they don't, find another doctor who does.  Remember, too YOU are your own care coordinator.  I don't know where I would be now if I hadn't done all the research I have, met all the people I have, and found my way here. 

    The sun is finally shining, and today I am back for the 2nd fill.  I have also resigned myself to the fact that I will be dealing with all of this at least, though June or beyond.  Glad my sisters will be there with me!

    Marianne

  • KatRNagain92
    KatRNagain92 Member Posts: 522
    edited February 2010

    Did they draw any labs on you Marianne?  My onc said I will have a complete physical every 6 months and I just wondered what the inital draws were.

    I think I should get a FSH (follicle stimulating hormone) test to determine if I have reached menopause.  Aside from a few night sweats and crying jags, I don't think I'm there yet...which also throws my ovaries into the mix of potential spots for recurrence.  She suggested annual vaginal ultrasounds which would be fine for me (vs laparscopic removal of them...no more surgeries!)  I'm actually hoping I will take the Tamoxifen over the Armidex because my bone density (from years of smoking) is not the greatest. Tamoxifen does beat Armidex in the osteo game.

    Since my cancer is progesterone postive I don't have the same view looking out the window as you do but I will tell you, the waiting on this damn score is probably worse than waiting for the BMX...well at least pretty close anyway... Tomorrow can't get here soon enough. 

    Kat

  • CinD
    CinD Member Posts: 163
    edited February 2010

    Good morning all!  I'm sorry to see some are having problems. Sally, what a pain it must be for you to have to deal with "the wave"!  I hope things straighten out soon.

    Robin, thank you for sharing your lovely story with us! It is so strange how some of the people we think will be there are the ones who aren't, while some we don't expect to help are the ones who are there for us. I have been so lucky with my wonderful neighbor. She is an OR nurse and has been there for me from the beginning with recommendations, support and help. She puppysits for us when we have to be away for my appointments, and this has been a great relief to me because both of my dogs have allergies and I don't like leaving them alone for long periods of time.

    Good luck to all awaiting their Oncotype DX scores. Marianne, you sound like a perfect candidate for the test. I think you are wise to try to put it from your mind while awaiting your score. I know to chemo or not to chemo is a hard choice, based partly on need and partly on your own comfort level. I'm in a different position than you, so even with a low score of 11, I chose chemo. I'm two weeks into four rounds of Taxotere and Cytoxin, and quite honestly, my side effects have been so minimal that I don't even feel as if I'm on chemo!  My onc chose those drugs in part because they don't have the potential for heart problems that other drugs have. I hope everyone awaiting Oncotype DX scores gets those low numbers! 

    Take care, all!

    Cindy 

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