Does anyone else feel this way...
I feel like I shouldn't post on the other parts of this board because DCIS isn't as 'serious' as the invasive cancers. I know this is probably silly but there it is. DCIS makes me feel so in limbo. I have cancer and yet I know it's not considered serious and some people don't even think it's 'real' cancer. I believe it's real and it feels serious to me, but...... Anyone else feel this way or am I just weird. I'm probably just weird (said with a grin)~
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Sweetheart, if it wasn't cancer, and serious, we wouldn't have our boobs chopped off because of it, would we?
You are right to believe it's real and to feel it very serious. *hugs*
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I too feel the same way as it is hard not to.....ever since I had my surgery everyone thinks I am all done and I haven't even begun the hell of radiation......I just grin and bear it because what else can I do.......Today I am off for my 1st mammogram since surgery before I do start my hell.....
So you are not alone in your feelings.......keep strong and keep posting I really believe it helps!
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I believe you are welcome to post anywhere you have something relevant to say.
Unless you are offering personal support to someone you are familiar with on the Stage IV board I would not post there because they are kind of touchy about that.
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I feel comfortable posting on most forums but I do hold back on the stage-specific forums. Even on Stage 1 or 2, I may hold back a relevant comment if I think someone else with the right stage will come along to make the same point.
On the DCIS forum the thread "Please stop minimizing my diagnosis" shows dangers for us, too. I have seen comments on DCIS threads from women with more advanced stages (well intentioned, but ignorant) that show it is better to comment about issues we actually have experience with.
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Mom, it felt like a real cancer to me and it turned my world upside down. I am grateful it wasn't any worse but still, my life is not like it used to be. Some things are better but being neurotic about every ache and pain is not great. What I try to do now is live everyday to the fullest but alway keeping in mind what I need to do to keep healthy. You are just new to this whole thing, you most likely haven't even finished treatments. Give yourself some time to get used to this whole thing. The best advice I got was- you can't work on getting over this until you are finished with it (tx's). Be gentle to yourself.
June wishing you all the best today with your mammo.
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I feel comfortable posting most places on these boards.
I don't go into the Stage or Type specific threads, mainly because they don't apply to me. The Stage IV board, I would never enter, out of respect for those ladies. They are dealing with such different/difficult issues, it would feel like an invasion of their privacy to me.
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You have breast cancer. You are welcome to post anywhere on this board, except the Stage IV forum (which is reserved for Stage IV women). However, I tend to agree with Rose and redsox. As Rose suggested, I tend to stick to forums where I have "something relevant to say". One reason I do that is because, as redsox pointed out, I too have seen factually incorrect advice offered here on the DCIS forum, and also in the reconstruction forum, that "show it is better to comment about issues we actually have experience with". The other reason is very much in line with your concerns. Even if I have knowledge about a specific topic, if the women discussing this topic have significantly more advanced BC, I don't want to risk upsetting anyone or appearing to be insensitive. I realize that while I may know the facts about a certain topic, because I have early stage BC, my perspective might be different and what I say could come out wrong (or be interpreted wrong). So I don't take the chance and I limit myself to forums where I have personal experience and/or where I'm offering factual data without a personal opinion. That's my choice.
As for how you feel about having DCIS, just about everyone seems to share that feeling. The "Please stop minimizing my diagnosis" thread that redsox referenced is a good discussion on exactly that.
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Mom, what you feel is very real. I was diagnosed 7 years ago and at that time we didn't even have a separate forum for DCIS so I felt very weird posting about my problems when others had it so much worse. I'm not here too often but when I am I also usually only respond to posts in which I feel I have "something relevant to say" and have some kind of personal experience.
When I was first diagnosed I tried to talk to my doctors about the severe depression I was going through because of this and the usual response was something along the line of "you shouldn't be depressed, it's only DCIS." Not helpful at all, especiallly considering it was coming from doctors.
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DCIS is real. Anyone who receives this diagnosis surely feels they are dealing with something serious, confusing and anxiety provoking. How could you feel otherwise? It is very difficult when medical professionals are telling you in the same sentence "It is only stage 0 and not life threatening -- one of your treatment options is mastectomy"!!! For me, what I have found so confusing is that we are told we can decide what our treatment plan should be. How can we make an informed decision when the information we are given is very often contradictory. Many times going for 2nd and even 3rd opinions provides us with opposing views. How are we to deal with this?
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OK, just exactly what is 'real cancer.' You have what we all are facing no matter what stage we are in. And that is the terribly frightening diagnosis which is a life changing event for all of us. Suddenly all of my feelings have been hijacked and I am spending time and being terribly ill (chemo) over things I did not ask to be in my life. Of course you belong here!! Where else woudl you go without us? Blessings to you, SV
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I get what you are saying. At first, I was really unsure if this way Cancer??? Feels like I don't really fit a specfic BC place. Diagnosed with Paget's disease of nipple, central core lumpectomy, node biopsy 9/9 clear. I agree with the lady who said, if they are taking off your breast - it is serious. I also have mixed feelings about what is going on. I went to a surgeon, who saw my nipple and did a biopsy right away. Found paget's then surgery. Very scarey to wait and wonder. Things seem good after surgery. Went to family Dr., who referred me to oncologist (radiologist) who wants me to have radiation. Feels the cells may have migrated from the ducts of breast - Right one by the way.
So, no heart to worry about being irradiated. I guess I feel lost in all this, wondering what is right???? Listening to one Doctor and another, wondering about insurance, money............It certainly is a lot to think about.
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For me, what I have found so confusing is that we are told we can decide what our treatment plan should be. How can we make an informed decision when the information we are given is very often contradictory.
Exactly - for me this was very troubling as well as the doctors I saw didn't give me much info other than my options. Just a here is what you can do, let me know what you decide - but no reasons why I should or shouldn't do something.
Typical conversation between me and the doctors -
Doctor: You can have a mastectomy, or have radiation/tamox, or just tamox, or nothing other than the lumpectomy.
Me: What do you think I should do?
Doctor: It's up to you.
Me: I think I'll have a mastectomy.
Doctor: Why would you want to do that? All you have is DCIS.
Me: But you said that was one of my options, I want to get rid of it forever.
Doctor: Yes, but you don't need a mastectomy.
Me: Then why did you tell me it was one of my options?
Then me, going home in tears, totally confused and frustrated with the doctors.
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Sounds very confusing! Sorry to hear this. I did get a on-line option with graphs, etc , very high tech. but, not many reasons. I think you have helped me sort out what is Exactly the problem,
I don't understand what is doing on and why? Options only ....thank you!
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I understand how you feel. There are a lot of women with more severe diagnosis out there. But I too am scared and going thru radiation right now. Posting how you feel might help someone else.
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wow, thanks for all the great responses. I feel better already. I guess I am lucky in that my bs is really good. She understands my fears and does her best to explain what my options are. When she met with my husband and I after all my tests were done she greeted me with a hug. My hubby asked why a mast was an option and her answer was that some women can't live with the fear that it could return. For me, at this time, a lumpectomy is all she is rec. I know radiation will be needed as well. I am OK with this. My 'lump' is palpable and only 1cm. My surgery is this Wed. I know I will be on pins and needles waiting for my path report.
This weekend I was able to spend time with 3 aunts who have all had breast cancer. So wonderful. I felt so much better after being with them. They get what is going on in my head. Sometimes I think this DCIS is worse on my head than my body. The emotional aspect is so intense. Thanks again ladies. It really helps.
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Hey Mom3 - This really does help. I feel alone with this and when people come over they want to tell me to buck up or give me advise that just makes me feel more alone. My husband is great and knows that I need time which is helpful.
I guess the bigger issue is what you commented on - I do feel very fortunate to have a good prognosis right now. I know this is cancer and It could return. I chose lumpectomy with sentinel node dissection. The surgeon wanted to do a mastectomy because so many times paget's can be associated with an underlying breast cancer. I decided not to have a masc and the paget's was only in the nipple.
Having radiation (from all the readings) seems to be the logical next step, but I am really having a hard time with it. Call it woman's intuition - I am not sure. I did get the markings and simulation over 2 weeks ago. Waiting again is long and stressful. When I called to find out when I was starting, I was told that the machine is full and that there were other people who needed it in an emergency situation which I get on a practical level.
I don't know why but that really got to me. I cried thinking I feel more alone than before. It's all very mental as you say. I really need to let this garbage out - to hear it, say it and set it free!
Holding on to the fear is too much right now.
Thank you for listening and I am grateful
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I hear you and understand how you feel. Bless you and thanks for sharing
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Hey gblonde, I hear you and understand how you feel. I hope all goes well for you.
It's a strange place to be and I hope to learn from this but in the meantime, I learn from
you and others - bless you
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jabedabra12 = I do so 'get' what you are saying. I'm glad your hubby is so understanding...so is mine. I was actually surprised at how mine reacted as he's not flustered by ANYTHING. I really expected him to minimize how i felt. I was so pleasantly surprised at how supportive and understanding he has been. He has been a rock. I don't want to unload too much on him though as I know he has his own fears. So, here is where I come I guess. I am in such a better place now. We'll see how I feel Tuesday! (day before surgery). My best friend is driving down to see me, we live in different states, Wed and the kids are very excited and so am I! She is truly an amazing friend. Her husband battled and won against prostate cancer almost 3 years ago so on many levels she understands what/how I feel. So grateful for friends. Good luck with your radiation. Hope it starts soon so your 'waiting' is over. Waiting is awful. You feel like your whole life is on hold.
I keep reminding myself that every path in life is to teach us something. For some reason we are all chosen to go down this path. I am trying to be 'open' to what I am supposed to learn from this so I can move on. That's what I tell myself anyway!
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mom3band1g yep, tried to protect husband but talking worked out better, just found that I was confused and so was he.
Good luck Wednesday, I truly hope that everything goes well for you! Thanks for listening
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Mom- Sending good wishes your way for tomorrow. I hope everything goes well, and that you're able to take a few days off to relax and recouperate.
M
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OMG, you hit the nail on the head! I was diagnosed in November w/DCIS- stage 0, grade 1-2. I first had the nasty stereotatactic biopsy-YUK, then given the sentence of Cancer- lumpectomey jan 7, margins clear- hallelujhah! and just started my radiation last week. I've had 4/33 sessions. I havent' met w/oncologist yet about Tamoxifen- i guess after radiation i'll deal with that.
But i have a family member who had stage 2 breast cancer. she went thru the masectomey, chemo/radiation/reconstruction- so I feel like, well, I didn't have it quite so bad, i guess i shouldn't talk about it.
but u know what? it IS just as bad, it's MY BAD. It's just as heart wrenching to tell my kids that I have cancer, and will be having surgery, and treatments for 6 1/2 weeks...
It's sooo nice to hear others feel the same way- we're all important with our own problems that matter.
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Oh, boy - do I understand this thread! I'm lucky - I've just got a little bit of a deadly disease? 4th generation to get BC, and no one yet has survived more than 5 years - I hope I break the cycle. I researched a lot online, talked to several people who had BC about their experiences, and looked back on my mother's and grandmother's experiences. I decided to do a bilateral MX - small breasts, no discernable tumor, grade 3 lobular comedo w/necrosis, family history, scattered microcalcifications. Fortunately, no spread to other tissue or lymph nodes, but I'm so glad to have that done with. I elected to be an Amazon warrior princess with no reconstruction - also a decision reached after much research, talking with partner and soul-searching. So I do feel a bit of survivor guilt that I don't even have radiation or chemo to deal with, but I know I made the right decision for me (my mother had the same diagnosis as me - but only had unilateral MX)
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Week 4, still waiting for radiation. Trying to fill in forms for critical illness - mortgage insurance - anyone have any information on these forms???
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Mom3band1g ~ I just joined so I could respond to you, I felt the same way but different. I waited to tell my family and friends until after my 2nd surgery. My DCIS was usual because it was within a Phyllodes Tumor and I had to deal with treatment decisions for two different conditions. After my second surgery (to clear margins for the tumor) I began to tell some of my family and a few select friends in my matter-of-fact-way. Most of them felt I was in denial which made me feel uncomfortable and second guess myself. When I spoke with the social worker about this she hit the nail on the head . . . everything is relative to you! So, yes I have breast cancer and no it is not life threatening at this time because thankfully I was able to catch it in the early stages. I have just completed 7 weeks of radiation during which time my skin never broke down (other than redness) but it sucked (sorry) just the same. I am half way through my life at 50, the best is yet to come, and I have a son and daughter, 13 and 11. This week I started taking Tamoxifen which I will continue to take for the next 5 years and was the part of the diagnoses that bothered me the most. If I didn't have cancer why would I put up with that!!??? Because I did have breast cancer and I am doing EVERYTHING within my power to keep it from reoccurring, the same as someone diagnosed with a different form of cancer. They are doing everything within their power to continue with life. It's just worth it! So, (as I jump off my soapbox), it's all relative to you and sometimes what is needed is not another opinion but just knowing someone is listening. Good Luck and post freely!
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HI mom-
No, I don't think it's a weird question, I feel the same way. I know I need support but on the other hand I don't want to feel silly and awkward to post and ask questions...like you said 'in limbo'. But I do know, my BS wouldn't have recommend a mastectomy if she didn't feel it was life threatening. My area was a bit more than 10cm, so a lump wouldn't have been an option.
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To mom3
I know exactly how you feel, I have just had my third surgery in 6 weeks, finishing with a partial mastectomy and breast reconstruction, and have been pronounced cancer free and feel almost as though I have cheated somewhere along the line. I don't feel like a breast cancer survivor, I don't feel as though I have earned that, and yet I have been through my own hell. It may not be a big thing in the great scheme of cancer, but in the great scheme of my life, it's the worst thing I've had to face, and that's what is important. I have the pain and scars to prove my battle too! If it isn't 'real cancer' then why are we bothering with treatment at all? I think some of us are 'lucky' enough to have been given DCIS as a warning for whatever reason...
I must say that in South Africa, where I am, it is taken very seriously, and not once did my BS or PS refer to it as not a real cancer - that is only something I've discovered when doing internet research.
Hope you've finished with your surgery and are feeling better. Don't rush yourself - that's the big thing I am learning!
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I just re-read this whole thread. What great responses everyone gave. I cannot believe how much I have changed since I started this thread not even 1 month ago. Wow. I had my lumpectomy which was spectacularly unsuccesful. I am now facing a bi-lat mast. Cancer has hit me in the face. If anyone tells me I have the 'good cancer' I may do bodily harm. Good cancer does not take body parts. I am still processing this next step in my journey and it's a hard one. I really think they need to assign you a couselor when you get a diagnosis of cancer. I sometimes feel like I'm losing my mind. I walk around only half-way here. I have to move about my day as my kids depend on me but if I had my way there are days I wouldn't get out of bed. My husband decided we needed a break from reality so we are headed to Florida for a long weekend. I don't much feel like leaving my house these days but I think he is right. Hope I can get these quick-sand shoes off enough to pack us up!
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This really hits close to home, as I'm still waiting for my lumpectomy. I veer back and forth from "everyone says the chance of it being more than DCIS is very small," to "nobody knows for sure until they do the final pathology." When I have talked about my cancer with friends and family, I have been careful to let them know that the prognosis is good, because I don't want them jumping to the worst conclusions. I feel like I have to do this because they haven't been to the doctors with me and they don't know that the doctors do agree I probably have nothing more than DCIS. So my friends and family are not as worried as I (and my husband) are. And I'm glad. But it also makes me feel really isolated. I do know I do not like it when people tell me how "lucky" I am.
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Wow. This topic and all of your insightful posts really resonate with me right now. How can any diagnosis of disease be lucky? Yet, I recognize that relatively speaking it could be so much worse. One breast surgeon I saw made an interesting comment when she said that DCIS is incongruous in that it is a less serious form of breast cancer, yet the treatment is often the same as for the more serious forms. This came as a shock for me. How could they be telling me I have early stage breast cancer with good prognosis and yet I need a mastectomy or lumpectomy with radiation? I guess at some point I'll feel that I was "lucky" that this was all I got. But right now, only three weeks out from my dx, I can honestly say I felt alot luckier last month! One thing that is a blessing is finding this website and the kind of support I feel from knowing that there are others who share my feelings.
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