HER2-no mastectomy-no chemo

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Laura4252
Laura4252 Member Posts: 6

Is there anyone who has chosen to NOT do mastectomy or chemotherapy ?  I found a 1.2cm lump April 2009 (see my DX below), and started Herceptin only November 2009 (every three weeks).  The tumor disappeared in three weeks.  The docs still want to do mastectomy, but I am not convinced this will prolong my life.  I am curious about women who opt for a "wait and see" approach, especially since there is so much urgency around rushing to chemo and surgery.......I had a toxic reaction to Taxotere so my oncologist decided to forego the Taxotere and Carboplatin.  I'm doing very well, feeling great, but undecided about the surgery......Is there anyone out there who is taking a slower approach to their treatment, and exploring other options?

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  • Jenniferz
    Jenniferz Member Posts: 541
    edited February 2010

    I have no answer for you, just keeping this close to the top so someone will come along and perhaps give some advice. Have you had Herceptin ONLY, no lumpectomy either? Is it because they (the doctors) couldn't get clear margins that they are wanting to do the mastectomy?



    Here's to finding the answers you seek, and continued good health.



    Jennifer

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited February 2010

    Laura,

    My lump was only 1.1cm and I had a lumpectomy. Why did your doctors try chemo and herceptin first? That's really strange as they usually do it to shrink large tumours. Great that it disappeared.

    I wouldn't have a mastecomy unless it was really necessary. I'm happy that I had a lumpectomy. I did find out I had pleomorphic lobular HER2 cancer and extensive LCIS later and have since asked if I should have had a mastectomy because of the LCIS and my new surgeon said no.

    I am having TCH because of the HER2 status though.

    Sue

  • Laura4252
    Laura4252 Member Posts: 6
    edited February 2010

    Jenniferz,

    I had DCIS April 2005 (comedo cells), lumpectomy August 2005 (mastectomy protocol-tight margins), and radiation to the right breast (mistake, I think now....).  So the recurrence in April 2009 of IDC, poorly differentiated, HER2 is why they want to remove the breast.  I watched Jennifer Grimm's photos of her mastectomy (cancervacation.org), and now I'm even less convinced that you improve your odds by removing the breast-seems so incredibly crude to me...I don't have a lot of faith in doctors (as you can probably tell....), so I'm navigating this "dangerous" path, but this is where I happen to be right now.....

  • sheila888
    sheila888 Member Posts: 25,634
    edited February 2010

    Laura...As you see my DX below, my tumor was 1.2 cm, had a lumpectomy 3 weeks after I was DX. Chemo A/C 4X, Taxol 4X with Herceptin 52 weeks and radiation when I was still on Herceptin.

    I'm on Femara since March of 2006. I see you are ER- so thats not the case for you.

    I see Dr's are treating each individual differently even if you had the same DX.

    Sheila

  • Laura4252
    Laura4252 Member Posts: 6
    edited February 2010

    Hi Suepen,

    If you read my post to Jennifer it explains the sequence of my diagnosis.  April 2009, after the recurrence, and change from DCIS, stage 0, to IDC stage 1, the docs wanted to do mastectomy and chemo.  I needed time to think about this.  So I took the summer to think about it, and decided that it made more sense to me to do chemo first and see if it worked (reduced the tumor...I thought "if you remove the breast, you remove the only way you can prove to yourself that the chemo is working...") So, by August the tumor was growing, but very slowly, so I decided to try chemo.  The Herceptin went in fine (I did not want a port--I did not want to make that kind of a commitment to chemo), but as soon as the Taxotere hit my veins I went into shock--My oncologist said we could try Abraxaine, and I did not want to, so she said, let's try just the Herceptin, and within days the tumor felt smaller.  I'm not liking the Herceptin side effects of body aches and dry fingers, but I guess I can live with that for a while.....thanks for connecting!

  • Laura4252
    Laura4252 Member Posts: 6
    edited February 2010

    Hi Seyla888,

    Yes, you're right, I think that the docs are doing the best they can to help us improve our odds for long term survival, but in my humble opinion, I get the feeling it's a crap shoot when it comes to prescribing chemo drugs and radiation......I wish I believed that mastectomy would improve my odds...I'd do it in a New York minute if I did.......

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited February 2010

    Laura: Kudos to you for not having a mastectomy. I can't believe people who have bi lateral. I know in some they find cancer in the other breast, but I don't see the logic in doing it up front. I'm happy with my lumpectomy, if it comes back well then we'll see.

    I agree it must have been great to see the herceptin work like that. I told my DH about your experience and he was amazed. You say the lump is gone, what if it's too small to show up on a scan. That's the only issue I think you've got. I guess they can monitor the area and if it starts to grow or show up, then you could have a lumpectomy.

    Meanwhile - lucky you!!!

    Sue

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited February 2010

    Forgot to add - keep up with the herceptin for the whole 12 months.

    Sue

  • Jenniferz
    Jenniferz Member Posts: 541
    edited February 2010

    Went back to update my treatment line. For some reason, it''s not showing up, but I DID have a mastectomy, and that's why no chemo or rads for me. However, if I hadn't had the mastectomy, I believe I would have done the chemo just to get Herceptin. Each of us has to choose their path and be comfortable with it. The only regret I had was that it was skin sparing, thinking I would have reconstruction later. It's been nearly 4 years, and still haven't drifted to that direction of more surgery. So, now I have a little lump of flesh there, and I'm hoping that all cells are gone forever. If I had known at the time of the mastectomy that it was Her2+, then it would not of been a skin sparing proceedure.



    Best of luck to you. May you continue to have good health.

  • panamapro06
    panamapro06 Member Posts: 1
    edited February 2010

    Hello, I am getting chemo now. I still have 2 more to go. but i took a decision not to do the mastectomy. My tumor is gone.

  • idaho
    idaho Member Posts: 1,187
    edited February 2010

    You are right... just because you get a mastectomy does not mean you cannot get breast cancer again... in breast tissue or elsewhere.  I now wish I had not had surgery and rads and just took the wait and see approach... If you are interested you can check out the nature girls thread.....wishing you peace and health.  Tami

  • Laura4252
    Laura4252 Member Posts: 6
    edited February 2010

    Idaho,

    What is the nature girls thread, and where do I find it?

  • TriciaK
    TriciaK Member Posts: 362
    edited February 2010

    I had a lumpectomy with three positive nodes taken in '05, this was followed by chemo/rads/herceptin and hormone therapy.

    While I do believe there are far too many unnecessary masts done, I do think as her2+ we need to do all we can to eradicate this disease first time around as her2 is very sneaky and is prone to spread.

    Tricia 

  • 1marmalade1
    1marmalade1 Member Posts: 308
    edited March 2010
  • blondie45
    blondie45 Member Posts: 580
    edited March 2010

    Jenniferz - Can you tell me what skin sparing means? I have been on this site for almost a year now and still am not sure what that means.

  • meinnj
    meinnj Member Posts: 12
    edited March 2010
    A skin sparing mastectomy leaves enough skin so that an expander can be placed and an implant ultimately.  If you have no intention of reconstruction then they can take a larger portion of the skin and make a  "neat" scar.  I did choose BLM for a left sided cancer.  I had significant complications with the RIGHT expander- had it removed and then replaced , but can't say I'm sorry I made this choice. My cosmetic result is very good and I'll never have another mammo. Of course I have a good chance of recurring elsewhere but I can only do what I can do.  I couldn't wait to say good bye to the breasts that almost killed me. No love lost there.
  • annamari
    annamari Member Posts: 82
    edited March 2010

    I had chemo first. My tumor was 11x6 cm.  locally invasive.  I tolerated the TCH very well and immediately the tumor shrunk down to next to nothing.  I also had lymph node involvement at least 3 of them.  I had a uni mastectomy and now wonder if it was necessary also lymph node disection.  The lymph nodes had no active cancer and only a 1cm tumor remained.  I wonder if a lumpectomy would have been sufficient.  I hate the look of my chest wall and the rads made my skin much darker than before and still not back to normal.  I have dull pain most of the time now and never before.  I hope to have reconstruction done in the future.  I almost think they should have reevaluated the stiuation after the 6 rounds of chemo and maybe spared my breast.  I'll never know but it is something to think about if you are considering what to do.

  • Zha
    Zha Member Posts: 1
    edited November 2013


    Update please. How are you doing? Did you get a masectomy?

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