All About Gummies
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samiam
That is great news, I am so happy for you.
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Liz, I see you're in the NY area, too. My silicone implant is slipping (second time!) and I still have a lot of pain in that area. My PS said he'd recommend a 410, but I have to wait until they come out, in 6 mos to a year. Was the 410 you're talking about part of a trial at a particular hospital?
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Ladies - hello! I have been lurking and have a question about the gummies. I know that with traditional silicone they say you have to have MRIs to make sure they are not leaking (or something like that). Do you have to have them with the gummies (since they can be cut in half and stay solid/dont "leak")? I will ask my PS of course but was wondering if anyone here has any info on that. I am currently expanding (had a uni MX in December) but will be exchanged to a gummie.
Thanks!
Lilah
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Does anyone know how small gummys come? What is the smallest that you can get?
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LIL!!!!!!
Hi:
No MRI with the gummies
Merrile: The come in far more sizes than the regular gels, i can't locate the web sit with the sizing chart anymore.
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Awesome! TY Wendy
I am relieved to hear that. MRI's give me anxiety attacks lol (and NOTHING else on earth gives me anxiety).
Lilah
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Bumping for sweetie....
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hi ladies,
been reading through your tread and I'm confused. I'm 3 1/2 weeks from BI nipple sparing and my Dr. is recommending tear drop gummies. Reading through I see some of you have them and like them and some of you don't like them. The question I have is are round silcone a different material then tear drop silcone? From what I have read the reason for the gummies is they are supposed be safer because they don't leak. So when comparing are we talking about two different material implants?
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wow i didn't realise they was a difference between the gummi and a softer cohesive gel implant!
Im still being expanded but me and my PS decided before hand that a tear drop shaped implant would be best for me as i have a bony chest area (my weight seems to be from the waist down) so these would lay more naturally.
I know he said they would be cohesive silicone gel implants and i assumed that thet would be what you gals in the US call gummies! Seems that may not be so!
I live in England and i am HOPING that we use the softer anatomical shaped implant that someone mentioned was being trialed in Europe. I will be sure to ask my PS when we get round to dicussing shapes and sizes,to see if they are softer ones or ones which the US call the 'gummi'.
I also didn't realise that anatomical ones can turn in their pocket?? That's kinda scary! My natural breasts pre-op were inly a 36AA so were very firm with no jiggle anyway so the firmness may not bother me,but if i can get jiggle,i WANT jiggle! lol
Good to get so much info that i can go 'armed' with next time i get a fill~thank you
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m-star-
I think there is only one type of gummy, the tear drop is the one approved in the US trial. From what I read about them there is really no use for a round gummy since the tear drop is more natural. If your Dr made your pocket to fit the tear drop it will fit more snuggly and shouldn't move. They are also supposed to not ripple and I hear they are slightly firmer. I'm like you, my breasts were small and firm before so I'm thinking I won't really mind the firmness. I guess it's really hard to have everything and at some point we have accept what we can and can't get have and then make it ours. I'm not there yet, I'm still in TE and only 3 weeks out from surgery. I'm still dealing with muscle tightness and pain.
Let us know what you learn at the your Dr appointment, ok? Best of luck
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Hi Sweetie2040,
So it looks like im getting the 'hard' gummi then =( Well it HAS to be softer than these expanders! The firmness of the expanders isn't so much of a problem~i've got used to it a bit.Its just the discomfort of them.If the gummies turn out to be firm but no discomfort then i will settle for that. Im pretty sure my PS said (pre surgery) that we had to decide on the final implant type BEFORE surgery,as it would make a difference as to the type of expander they put in to stretch me. I will double check and i'll try and remember to ask if there's any chance it can move about or displace once its in there.
Yeah i've never had nice big,soft boobs anyway so you can't miss what you've never had,as they say! lol Im just happy i have bigger ones already! These feel like they are pushing up under my armpits now as they are getting bigger.Im very aware that they are there and when i massage the scars,i can feel the ports below very much!
I'll try and write down my question for my PS but if he's running behind schedule,i'll just ask the most important ones for now,as i'll get chance to ask more before exchange.
Kay
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m-star
I felt the gummies on someone and they feel very natural. They are firmer but in a good way and trust me ,they look very natural. I think they do put in the expanders special for the gummies because they are tear drop shaped and the expander has to be more specific. I not sure if once you have that type of expander if you can switch to a different type of implant. I know mine told me he puts the expander in for the gummie but he had some women who wanted a round silicone and he changed it for them. I know what you mean about the expanders. They suck! I feel like I have two helium balloons in front of me. They are just annoying. I also feel the same about the pushing up under my armpits. I never had that before. My breasts were just in the front and not pushed out to the sides since they were smaller. They were bigger years ago when I was younger before I had kids. I kind of got used to them being smaller and felt more athletic and they didn't get in the way. I don't want to be too big but a little bigger and fuller would be nice, that's why I hear the gummies are nice because they are so natural. Let me know what your PS says about them. How far are you from your exchange surgery.
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Hi Sweetie
not sure when my exchange will be yet but im hoping for septenber.Depends when the fills finish i guess. I'm feeling a little better about the gummies now.Some of the horror stories on here are scary!! I am looking fwd to the day when i can go and feel all the implants and look at what will be making up my new rack! lol also looking fwd to wearing clothes ive never been able to wear before,ie,strapless, low front etc. Will be nice.
Yes i will def let you know if i find anything out this thursday but if my PS is running late i'll leave it til another time. Hopefully my daughter will video this fill again as my app is 4pm and she finishes school at 3.20 so i will rush and pick her up en route!
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just to update:
i found out here in the uk there are 3 types of cohesive silicone gel implants (gummies).
Firm, mid-range and a softer one. They don't use the softess one as it doesn't hold it's shape well. They tend to go for the mid-range one,as it holds its shape well without being like a rock.
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m-star
interesting, I didn't know they came in three types. Are you sure they are all still gummies? I thought there was only one gummie and the other types are a different silcone. I'll ask my PS when I see him. Keep me posted on how you do.
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Well our surgeons dont call them gummys. She didn't even know that you guys in th US did!
But they are cohesive silicone gel and they come in 3 different 'firmnesses' (is that even a word?!! lol)
hmm...not sure...maybe it's just the firm one that you guys call the gummy?? But they dont tend to use the firm one (at least my surgeons dont) so i'm pretty happy at that.I am sick of feeling like i have 2 rocks glued to my chest! Hard to imagine ever feeling normal again.
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M-star,
I think here in the US we are limited to the use of cohesive gel implants as they are still under study and not actually fully FDA approved. Right now limited Dr's can use them and can only use the tear drop shape and what I believe to be the harder one. The thing that puzzles me is I think the harder one is the cohesive gel one, and the other's are just a different, possibly improved silicone style. The point of the cohesive is that it is firm so it cannot leak like the old style. It is supposed to be more safe. I guess I will have to research more. I won't be ready for my implants for at least 4-5 months. Don't worry you will feel normal, it will just be a new normal and you may be surprised that you will find yourself quite happy with the outcome after all!
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lol a new normal! good way to look at it! im really not sure but they definatly said they are using the cohesive silicone gel implant. But not the firmest one. I think most of them are cohesive these days. Even the older ones which are not liquid but not rock hard.They are more like a jello i guess. But i saw one of those cut open on youtube and they dont break away when cut in half either.
its so confusing
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Here's something that might help: the implant that we in America call the "gummy" is, quite specifically, the Allergan 410 cohesive silicone gel implant. It is, as I understand it, somewhat firmer than the Mentor cohesive gel which is NOT referred to as a "gummy" but also can be cut in half. I have the "gummy" and believe me when I say that though firm it is NOTHING like a TE. It is soft. It is squishy-ish
It sits in the right place on my chest. It is actually the same basic firmness as my natural remaining breast. I've always had firm breasts though, so for me it is fine. One advantage of the gummy is it's tear drop shape (I'm not sure the other types of cohesive gels come teardrop shaped). Anyway, I am liking it!
Your mileage may vary.
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ah... well the one i'm getting is DEFINATLEY teardrop shape,but is only the medium softness. I am viewing them on monday next week so will try and get the brand name of them. Once i know what brand they will be using, i'm hoping whippetmom will be able to give me advice on what dimensions to go for, given my measurements
I guess i'd like them FAIRLY squishy! lol
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I have been through the entire process of PBM, expanders and then traditional silicone implants. The bad new is that they look horrible and after going through all that!
I am thin at 5'3" and 104lbs and my implants are a mass of ripples! My PS says the implants, that have been in for less than a year, need to be changed out to the gummy bear type because of my thin tissue.
Yikes! I don't even want to get nipples done if I need to have my implants changed. Where do you even find someone who does the gummy bear implants
Julie
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Lilah-thanks for the information. I'm glad you are happy with the gummies. That is encouraging. I have a couple of questions-Do the implants feel tight at all in body, and are the comfortable and do they feel like part of you. Also, very important-can you sleep on your stomach normally or does it feel different. Also does the gummie form a inframtory fold. (that is the fold your natural breast makes where it meets the chest) I heard (don't know if it's true) that the gummies don't and silicone does, again don't know. Also do you breasts look "full" or "round". My concern is that I want fullness near the top but still natural looking. Anything you can share would be a great help. I'm only 4 weeks post op but I'm already thinking about which way to go.
Geysermom- I'm so sorry your not happy with yoru implants. I know there are options and you can get a revision. Gummies are under trial in the US,and should be approved shortly. I think if you go to the Allergan website it has a Dr. locater. If you call the hospital where had surgery they may be able to give you a referral. I know there are limited Dr's who can offer them now as part of the trial, but there should be someone in your area. If you PS suggested them does he do them or know who does?
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Sweetie -- well I just had surgery a week ago so it's WAY too soon for me to know whether I can sleep on my stomach
That said, I can say: the implant is not tight at all, not loose either; it stays where it is. I think regular silicone implants (esp the smooth ones) move around more. It does feel like a part of me! Ironically, because my other breast is really swollen from the reduction surgery (I'm a uni) it feels more like a part of me than my real breast LOL. It DOES have a distinct fold but there's not much of a droop (if that's the right word). Certainly the breast is full/round but there is NOT a big bump at the top... but a natural slope... which is a direct result of the gummy's teardrop shape. This I like because it nicely matches the natural slope of my remaining breast. My reduction breast is quite swollen ATM so the jury is still out as to how well they match. If you want fullness... you might want to consider the Mentor memory gel cohesive gels... which are much softer (I hear) than the gummy (aka the Allergan 410) but which come in a much larger size (as much as 800 cc's whereas the gummy pretty much tops out at around 685 ccs) which will afford you more fullness (depending of course on your size the 685 may be full enough however). The other thing about the Mentors, as I understand it, is they also can be cut in half and form two halves (like the gummy). I don't know much about them but it's a thought.
Geysermom -- sorry to hear about the ripples... I think that's an issue for thin women regardless of the implant; and can also be an issue for heavier women as well (but seems to be less of a problem?) I think it mainly depends on the thickness of your skin. I have no ripples at all so far... but the gummy seems to not move at all so that may be why. So far I don't mind that.
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Good evening ladies, Would be very reassured to hear from anyone who does NOT hate their 410 gummies...My exchange is coming up and I'd planned all along to get these ... travelled out of town for my BMX, follow-ups,etc, just for this reason. Reading that so many women are sooo dissatisfied is really giving me pause...If you are out there (thank you already, Lilah) please speak up. Will also ask around on some other threads. Thx
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Hey all! I am getting the mentor moderate plus cohesive gel implants and I asked my PS Monday about the difference between them and the "gummies". The cohesive gel is still cohesive enough to not leak. If cut in half it does maintain its form and if squeezed it will protrude then suck back in. They are not so cohesive though that they keep a definate tear drop shape. The true gummies are still in trial only in certain places with certain docs in America although they have been used in Europe. My PS personally (and each one is different for sure) prefers the cohesive gels to the gummies. He thinks they are too firm and alot of women have trouble with that after. He also thinks the round is preferable to women who have PBM because there is no tissue left to cushion the firmness or the teardrop shape. If they turn at all it is noticable. That being said, you can probably find a thousand different opinions on each. The teardrop shape does allow a much more sloping upper area, but for me if I am going to do this....I want to be full when I am done. I have always been small chested and sloping (is that a word??) and I dont necessarily want pole dancer boobs but would like to fill out the top part of my bras. So for me the Cohesive gel mentors seems like the right way to go. I'll post afterward how they turn out!
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That clears things up a bit~thanks for that! =D
I change my mind almost daily about getting the teardrop ones. I too want to be fuller up top.I'd like to see some fuller,roundness to the part that comes up out of the top of your bra and bikini. But i don't want Barbie boobs either!!
The turning in the pocket thing is a real problem i think as i am sporty and alot of my sport involves upper body stuff that will firm up my pecs again.I don't want my pecs pushing my implant out of shape.
For me,this will be my main concern and priority as i am not giving up my Tae Kwondo. I didn't train hard for 8 years to get my 3rd Degree black belt for nothing! No way! My PS has said i could have round ones if i want to,but in her words "if you really want an OBVIOUS cleavage".
My PS intends to use the mid-range firmness in the cohesive gel (we have 3) so they wont be the really firm ones thankfully. But she did really recommend the teardrop on my body shape. Do PS's just want you to look real subtle??? Are they afraid that people will look at you and think" oh my God,who has doen THAT to you??"!!! What if dont WANNA look subtle!!! I think half way between subtle and Barbie boobs would be cool!
aww....i have a head ache now.I am thinking about stuff too much.
What questions should i ask my PS/breast nurse about the implants and whats best for me?
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The 410 (the gummy) definitely seems subtle in it's slope, though for me that is best since I'm matching my remaining breast (I'm a uni). It also comes textured so it adheres to the skin (though I can't say it FEELS like something is stuck or anything like that... it's just how I understand the difference between smooth and textured)... the adherence helps with the issue of movement. The implant literally can't move out of place once the skin and the implant have adhered. Smooth implants do not adhere.
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I thought the reason behind a textured implant was so it DIDN'T stick and/or get encapsulated?
Maybe i'm getting mixed up
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LOL Kay -- as I understand it (and god knows I'm not an expert so you should really only take your doctor's final word for this) the textured adheres and because it adheres it reduces the chance of capsular contraction. I think your perception isn't wrong, however. As this adherence supposedly prevents the formation of scar tissue around the implant or in reaction to the implant, which is what leads to capsular contraction. The formation of scar tissue is a different thing from skin adhering to implant. At least that is how I understand it. Short version: smooth moves... textured tends to stay in place. With teardrops, where you really DON'T want movement (because they have a specific shape meant to sit in the pocket in a specific position), the tendency is for textured.
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Lilah, just checking in on you, how are you doing since surgery? How do you feel so far about the gummy? I'm wondering if gummy's are better suited for women who had a uni since they have a more natural shape and would match your remaining breast. Any comments on the firmness so far compared to the natural side? You see I'm still debating and since I had a BMX I'm not sure which way to go and I definitely want more fullness at top. I don't mind the firmness because I had small dense breasts before and they were never that squishy anyway!
M-star have you decided yet?
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