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  • sanaisa
    sanaisa Member Posts: 167
    edited February 2010

    7 down, 26 to go...21% of the way done! Had the longest chat with with my Radiologist today. She showed me the CAT Scan image, and what is going on in there with the Rads.  Pretty darn fascinating! 

    Also, during my Herceptin IV yesterday, I spoke with my regular Onc...he said he noticed in my chart that before chemo, I would have about 4-5 glasses of wine a week.  I explained it was never more than one glass in the evening.  He told me that 4-5 glasses is equivalent to a full bottle of wine and that this is a "lot" of alcohol.  He explained to me that patients who have been treated for breast cancer should be extremely cautious of any alcohol consumption and noted that for those that drink up to two glasses a day, their chance of having a recurrent of breast cancer increase by 70%!?  Scared the heck out of me. I used to love my wine.  I am afraid of even having one glass now.  Dang it all...can't have wine, can't have anything with sugar, have to eat organic, what else...

    And then today I read the article about the SSRI's...did you guys see that!!!???  Yes, I admit, I have been taking an SSRI during this (doc put me on it)...cancer death increased from 24% to 91% with SSRI/Tamox usage?

    http://www.medpagetoday.com/HematologyOncology/BreastCancer/18376 

    I know, I have no business complaining.  It should be enough to smell the sweet air and be able to hug my loved ones for as long as I can, sans the wine, steak, sweets and SSRIs!.

    Hugs..

    (edited to change "women" to "patients" as not all breast cancer is gender specific)

  • DebbieSawyer
    DebbieSawyer Member Posts: 133
    edited February 2010

    Everyone have a great (rads free, pain free) weekend! Those of you getting those severe snow storms, take care, be safe.

    How do you attach photos to these posts? I was going to insert a picture of the view from my house of NO snow, but maybe it's better I don't show that to you.... ;)))

    (obviously the process of attaching photos is more involved than just copy and paste)

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited February 2010

    I haven't posted in a while, but do read daily.  Congrats! to all that have finished and thanks to everyone for the wonderful advice along the way.  For all of you dealing with the terrible snow storms, my thoughts are with you - what a mess.

    I just had tx #13 today, my skin is turning pink and sensitive, but not painful. I lotion up everytime I think of it.  I do get tired, but not sure if it's rads or the combination of rads and working full time.  I have these strange shooting pains that go from under my arm to up above the scar line from my masectomy.  Feels almost like nerve pains........ the onc said it was normal and it may get worse - UGH!!! What is it and why???? 

    Stay warm and have a great weekend!

  • DebbieSawyer
    DebbieSawyer Member Posts: 133
    edited February 2010
    sanaisa--Thank you for the web link. I skimmed the medpagetoday report, and wanted to note that it did say "The analysis showed an increased risk of breast cancer death only among women taking paroxetine."  It appears not all SSRI's have this increased risk, just Paxil.  If I misunderstand the report, please do let me know. Just didn't want to scare those who are on any SSRI's.
  • kmf
    kmf Member Posts: 79
    edited February 2010

    Well, I finished today and it was almost anti-climatic -- I took in a tray of cookies from a gourmet cookie/bake shop and did up a thank you to everyone.  I got a call tonight at 8:30 from my rad onc.  saying she was sorry she didn't see me when I left and thanking me for the cookies and the note.  The caller ID popped up w/the hospital name on it.  Fri. night and she's still at work and calling me.  I see her again in about 3 mos.  We are packing to head to Jamaica Sun. -- looking forward to a bit of time away from the cold and the radiation machine!!  Good luck to the rest who are following and to those of you already done -- happy healing -- physically and mentally!  Karenanne

  • one-L
    one-L Member Posts: 1,110
    edited February 2010

    kmf, congrats on finishing.  Boy  am I jealous about you finishing and your vacation.  Hoping you have a great time, have a drink for me while you are there. 

    Juannelle

  • cookiegal
    cookiegal Member Posts: 3,296
    edited February 2010

    some severe nerve pain tonight...dawgs when is this OVER? Sorry to be a whiner!

  • DaylilyFan
    DaylilyFan Member Posts: 80
    edited February 2010

    Debbie--terrific visual, can't help smiling whenever I see it!

    1rarebird--I can't speak for all rad facilities, but my boost rads were targeted through a specially-made cutout plate just inches from my breast.  My only SE was a firm, dense area under part of the scar.  It's impossible to predict SE because it's a different kind of radiation (electrons instead of protons), and everybody's different.  Don't hesitate to ask your techs for more info and keep using whatever lotion you have.  (PS:  Great egret is my favorite bird; wish I had a photo.) 

  • victoriasecret
    victoriasecret Member Posts: 333
    edited February 2010

    Hi girls Wow I am done ,finito ....BY BY ...last rad of 25 yesterday  Woo HOO...

    My skin is FRIED !!very sore ,tight,hurts to move arm ,swollen...I am applying polysporin,100% aloe, and creams that were suggested from my treatment center...

    But....did I mention Im DONE !!!

  • victoriasecret
    victoriasecret Member Posts: 333
    edited February 2010

    Kmf congratz on crossing the finish line ! how nice was that of your rad onc to call !enjoy Jamaica Man !!

    I brought my rads team in a box of chocolates and had my goodbyes could feel the lump in my throat so made it short.Funny how you become attached to your helthcare teams..Monday is my last day with my nurse ,she has come weekly since my release from hospital in August..that will be sad.

    I have to get on with the rest of my life !!its been on hold since June so its time !!! 

    Then it was off to lunch with my bff...dh is away on business ( great timing)but ok with me so the kids and I headed out to dinner...to celebrate..

    much love

    C

  • victoriasecret
    victoriasecret Member Posts: 333
    edited February 2010

    Jenn I will be thinking of you !! almost done !!ml C

  • one-L
    one-L Member Posts: 1,110
    edited February 2010

    yea for victoriasecret,you are done, great, fantastic, yippee.

    Juannelle

  • DebbieSawyer
    DebbieSawyer Member Posts: 133
    edited February 2010

    Cookiegal---how you feeling today? Whine away, it's no problem! Did you take any pain meds last night to help? Ibuprofen? Vicodin? Jim Beam? Ice cream? That suks you're having severe pain and blistering, even tho rads are long done. I'm sending you cyberhugs and well wishes that starting this minute you'll be pain free and heal quickly.

    kmf--Congrats on finishing rads! Have a BLAST in Jamaica!! Smooth flight, fair skies, warm sand, and cool drinks await you.

    victoriasecret--And a big high five to you for completing rads!! Sorry to hear your skin is fried, but keep applying those creams!  Now, get on with the rest of your life! Best wishes to you as you do.

    Hi Onty, OneL---You're making progress! No SE's from the tx yet? 

    Welcome to eclectic_art and quarter405.

    Happy weekend to all the Atomic Dogs!

  • weety
    weety Member Posts: 1,163
    edited February 2010

    I keep reading about all you with boosts.  My doc said no boosts for me (of course now I'm going to question him more and find out why) but I'm wondering if there is anyone else who didn't have any boosts.  I had a mastectomy and my radiation is to the chest wall, so maybe that's the reason.  But I still wonder about the scar/skin area, too, because my margins were actually smaller there than the chest wall.  (3mm margin from IDC to chest wall, but DCIS present at chest wall; 1mm margin from IDC to skin)  Any thoughts?

  • precioustime
    precioustime Member Posts: 233
    edited February 2010

    I am  at #10 and 23 left to go!  A little pinkish but no other S/E's. 

    weety911-- I had BMX and I am not having any boosts at the end either-- When I asked the Tech she said that the Dr. is incorporating it into the 33?  Whatever the reason?    I have a bollus placed each day of treatment and will until the last and get rt. chest wall, rt. axilla, rt. supraclavicular and both sides of mediastinal radiated.

    So glad for the weekends!

    Loretta

  • sanaisa
    sanaisa Member Posts: 167
    edited February 2010

    Hey Debbie...yes, I saw the specific notes pertaining to Paxil...but in reading the entire article, sounds like any SSRI is cause for concern (they list a number of them). The concern is that SSRI's are CYP2D6 inhibitors. They find Prozac or Paxil most strongly inhibit the CYP2D6 enzyme, but there is mention of other SSRIs.I guess the option is the alternative hormonal therapy medicine, like an aromatase inhibitor.They say that aromatase inhibitors can be a good alternative to tamoxifen for post-menopausal women.All so confusing!  :)

    Cookie...so sorry to hear of your nerve pain.  My gosh...

  • 1rarebird
    1rarebird Member Posts: 91
    edited February 2010

    Daylilyfan--

    Thanks for the info on your experience with the boosts.  I will talk to my techs about the blocking plate for the boosts I will get.  And FWIW, I am using Radi-Guard for the skin lotion.  It has aloe and lidocaine which helps with the itching that has just started getting bad enough to wake me at night.  With 3 reg treatments and 5 boots to go and I think I will need a lot of lotion to sleep well.  Thanks again.

    bird

  • DebbieSawyer
    DebbieSawyer Member Posts: 133
    edited February 2010
    Hi sanaisa--thank you for the add'l information/clarification. As I said I skimmed the article: I will go back and read it thoroughly. Like you said, it's all so confusing. For every study you read, another study will say the opposite; It's okay to eat soy. It's not okay to eat soy. It's okay to drink wine. It's not okay to drink wine. Sheez. Anyway thanks again for the link. Since I now have my AI prescription in hand, guess I'd better study up on that next phase of treatment.
  • unklezwifeonty
    unklezwifeonty Member Posts: 1,710
    edited February 2010

    I'm on Celexa but no Tamox or AI (I'm TNBC). Is that cause for concern? Today DH noticed tanning under the breast being treated. First sign of SE. I hope it stays like this.







  • Kim09
    Kim09 Member Posts: 100
    edited February 2010

    Weety - I didn't have boosts either. 

     Well my Aromasin showed up today.  I think I will wait till nex weekend to start it.  I want a full weekend to see how I react to it.  Since one of the SE's can be insomnia and another can make you tired I can't decide if I want to take it in the morning or evening.  My med onc didn't say I had to start it right away so I am giving myself a week off.

  • Juli-CA
    Juli-CA Member Posts: 36
    edited February 2010

    Debbie - Thanks for the cheerleader.  That's how I felt leaving my last treatment.  To add an image, you need to upload it to a photo hosting site such as Photo Bucket.  It will then create a URL or address for the photo.  Copy the URL.  When you post a comment, look at the small icons above the text box where you are typing.  To the left of the smile face, see a small icon of a tree.  Click the tree, see a box appear then paste the URL in the "Image URL" box.

    1rarebird - I had a lumpectomy so the boost procedure may be different.  I had 16 photon treatments from three angles, from the center of my chest to the armpit and from below my breast to below my clavicle.  The 5 boosts were directed to a rectangle area (about 3 inches by 5 inches) from my nipple up over the incision where the tumor cavity area.  The same machine was used to deliver electrons with an additional fixture, called a "cone," attached to direct the energy to the specific area.  Unlike the whole breast TXs when they used the tattoos, the boost area was drawn on with a Sharpie marker and a paint marker to make it quicker and easier to align each day.  The electrons do not penetrate the way that photons do so the energy is delivered straight down.  As far as reactions, my boost area is more red than the whole breast TX area but no blisters or peeling yet, just itching. 

  • ellen57
    ellen57 Member Posts: 7
    edited February 2010

    Posted this earlier on the December Rads thread and then found this one is more on my time schedule- 

    Well, I really missed the boat on finding this site! I have read through all your posts and am honored to be amoung such strong, caring women! I finished Rad 2 weeks ago and could really have used all your wonderful information while I was going through it with you!  I had 27 rads and 7 boost. I had small watery type blisters on my chest wall that then became leathery and needed creams. I am very large breasted (DDD) and the breast itself tolerated the rads very well, I got pink only. My problem was the fold under the breast. The skin there broke down very badly and actually bled at times. I started out rolling baby wash cloths and lining the fold with hydrogen 10, gauze and then the wash cloth. This worked for a few days, but then any movement caused rubbing from my bra and pain. I teach elementary school, so going braless was not an option! A friend gave me a great product called A SHOWER HUG (www.showerhug.com) which was designed for lactating or post surgical women to wear in the shower to prevent pain from the water pressure. It is a wrap that velcroes in front. I turned the velcro around and wore it under my clothes like a tube top. It gave me plenty of support and really did feel like a ((HUG)) when I needed it most! The other piece I wore was from Women Within's web site and it was like a tight camisole with built in bra with no underwires! It felt like I had my bathing suit top on and was very comfortable. I did find that during the most painful of times I preferred to sleep in one or the other.

    Now that I am almost 2 weeks out of rad. I can say that I am healing nicely. I have Irish skin that burns easily, I have had both basal and squamous cell cancers removed before so I was very nervous. The skin is still peeling but the new skin ispink and shiny.

    I did also have a part of my lung clipped by the radiation. I developed asthma type symptoms that the rad onc did not seem too concerned about. After more than a week of wheezing I started coughing constantly so I went to my Primary. That lead to an antibiotic, Advair, rescue inhaler, and 30 days of steroids. YUCK. I have terrible insomnia from the steroids, but everything seems to be clearing up. Sometiimes I get dizzy and have terrible hot flashes. I think it is from all the meds?

    I did my treatments before Christmas at 8:00 and went late to school. No problem as far as feelign more or less tired because it was so early on, except I am NOT a morning person. After the holidays, the 4:00 slot came up and I took that. I listened to a great book on cd in the car on the way- The Help- and it made the trip to and fro enjoyable.

    I was supposed to see onc. 2 weeks ago but he cancelled, then last week he cancelled me again, then we have had 2 feet of snow and he closed office for 2 days this week.(This was timely as we had 2 Snow Days that but up to a 4 day Presidents Weekend to relax and build up more stamina!)

    I am nervous and would love to see if anyone can tell me about the drugs we are about to start taking? I am overweight but in good health. I am about a year since my last period. I have had terrible hot flashes since diagnosis. Not looking foward to more SE. What have you all been told about the drugs and what to expect?

    Mimi- I can relate to the seroma thing! I had a big, very painful one after my first surgery. It actually leaked at one point, closed up and then a week later exploded- the stuff just poured out of me and I was out of town visiting my poor, traumatized parents. Had to drive 3 hours back to surgeon, he tried to get an OR, but there were none until 10pm so he opened it in his office! I never felt a thing- sort of like having a stitch removed and then RELIEF- it felt sooooo good! I would recomment the shower hug for soaking in a warm shower or tub and to wear dry to keep it from hurting. Good luck!

     Congratulations to all of you who have just finished! Yeah! Feels great, huh?

     To those of you who are still going through the drag of rad. it will all be over before you know it and just be a unfavorable memory. I feel I learned a lot about myself going through the experience. Think at the end of every day all you had been through that day and congratulate yourself for all you have done. I worked all the way through rad with special education kids in grades 1-3. I was a work aholic in the past and I had to put in a lot less hours of writing meticulous lessons and being on every committee, but I pulled from what I knew after 30 years experience and  taught from my heart. It may not have been my best year, but I knew I had done my best every day. I was renewed to be able to be ok with that. 

     God bless everyone in this club we never thought we would be members of!

  • DebbieSawyer
    DebbieSawyer Member Posts: 133
    edited February 2010

    Juli-CA---Thank you for the info on how to upload photos.

    Ellen57---Although you're done with rads, welcome to Jan Rads thread! And thank you for relating your experiences. Do you know which hormone drug you'll be prescribed? I am now starting my own investigation about the drugs we're to take, and spend alot of time reading the Hormone Therapy threads. I'm sure you've discovered that this site is an excellent source of information, support, humor, and therapy. I would have been totally dazed and confused when I got my initial diagnosis, had it not been for the wealth of knowledge on BCO.

    Hope the dawgs are having a great Sunday!

  • 1rarebird
    1rarebird Member Posts: 91
    edited February 2010

    Juli-CA -- Thanks for the description of your treatments. It sounds very similar to the way I am being treated except for the number of treatments.  Perhaps you recieved higher dosages of radiation than I am getting so it will take melonger (more treatments) to get the total amount of radiation needed.  They told me I am getting 180 centigrays each time for 28 times.  That equals about 50 Grays total, then there will be the 5 boosts.  I am very glad to hear that you did not blister in the boost area.  That gives me something to look forward to.  Thanks again.

    bird

  • weety
    weety Member Posts: 1,163
    edited February 2010

    I wonder how they decide how much total radiation and how much at each treatment to give a person?  

    I'm starting to get myself all worked up over the next thing I've decided to worry about.  Does radiation to the chest wall give me a much higher chance at getting a sarcoma cancer at a later date than if the radiation was elsewhere besides the chest wall?  Gosh I hate cancer.

  • Elliana
    Elliana Member Posts: 12
    edited February 2010

    Hello bc sisters, I am half way thru rads, it is yuckier than I thought, am trying Bioron Calendula lotion and emu oil, all other creams/lotions I've used do not absorb at this point, merely create a sheet of dried lotion peeling off my skin. I wish I had something more positive to report, however although it is uncomfortable, it is not unbearable, bless us all :)

  • Sido
    Sido Member Posts: 234
    edited February 2010

    Happy Valentine's Day!

    Just 3 tx and 5 boosts to go!  I took a couple of days off to go to a conference in Chicago and my crispy underarm is healing nicely.  Just peeling, but no pain and I'm still a pretty bright red overall.  Also a bit tichy.   And I'm suffering from serious senior-itus...I am sooo over going to rads everyday and doctor appointments in general.  Last week the breast center nurse sent me a copy of After Breast Cancer: Answers to the Questions You're Afraid to Ask, so the end feels so near...I won't know what to do with myself afterwards, since there's no hormone therapy for TN.

    I also went "topless" in public for the first time today.  I just can't stand wigs and hats anymore.  My students are in for a surprise tomorrow....

  • snuziq
    snuziq Member Posts: 107
    edited February 2010

    Hello all, I went over to the February RADs post and there was my pal Onty telling me to join y'all here.   I had my CT last Monday and would have had my runthrough Friday but 9 inches of snow caused a cancellation.  *I like Juanelle live in Texas - and that white stuff is scary! Foot in mouth   I will have my first treatment and the runthrough tomorrow.

    Onty - I can't give you all of the answers for the top yet, but I'm pretty sure I will be supine because my CT was that way and when I made a comment the tech said if it was too uncomfortable I should practice at home.  

    Does anyone else feel like they should be doing pull downs or leg raises while they are lying there holding a bar above their heads???

  • Scoobydoo
    Scoobydoo Member Posts: 499
    edited February 2010

    Ellen thank you so much for sharing your experience with rads.  I am also very large breasted (DD) and my rad onc told me I would have severe burns under my breasts.  I will look into those items you purchased to help you through.  My rad onc also told me to not wear a bra throughout this entire process.  I will probably do that.  Since it is winter time I can layer to hide the fact that I am not wearing a bra. 

    I also had seroma after my lumpectomy.  My incision actually burst and I awoke with sheets and clothing soaked.  They had to reopen part of my incision to drain and then my DH had to stuff the incision with guaze twice a day until the incision healed and closed. 

    Today is my simulation.  Thank you ladies for your words of encouragement and support regarding my fear of the pain from tatoos.  I will be strong and go through it like all of you have done.

    Anita

  • unklezwifeonty
    unklezwifeonty Member Posts: 1,710
    edited February 2010

    8 down, 13 to go. Tan under boobie but no worrisome SE's.





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