You know what I hate...rant!

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  • Diana63
    Diana63 Member Posts: 773
    edited February 2010

    This stuff makes me so mad, why would anyone in there right mind complain to someone they knew had cancer and went through treatment? I have had this happen to me many times since dx and I always say the same thing. Maybe I'm not the one you should be talking to, call a friend that hasn't had cancer and complain about wanting bigger boobs or acting like a mammogram is the most painful thing in life. Or they really get stupid and say something like I could never do what you did, I wouldn't have done chemo. My response to them is I hope you never have to make that choice. It all goes back to the saying if you have nothing good to say then say nothing at all. I have hung up on people mid conversation when they go on and on about something stupid. I know I;m a monster for not understanding why, the store not having the shoes you wanted in your size completely screwed up you week. Or the lady at the salon didn't double rinse your hair so now you have the frizzes. Come on people life is to short to complain about shoes and hair, and yes I was like this before dx.

    I have been around to many sick people to complain about stupid things. OK I'm sorry I went off on my own rant but you got me going ;)

    My point is you have every right to rant, sometimes we need to vent and get upset. Rant on my friend, we are here to listen. BTW can anyone tell I'm in a real bad mood?

  • Alyson
    Alyson Member Posts: 4,308
    edited February 2010

    I love the rants too, I read and smile and think about the silly things people say. I think it is people's own fears at time. Sister has been fine with all this with me, it is a cousin who hasn't coped. Thought she would be a great support but oh no, its all her problems.

    I returned to my job after finishing tx and got so frustrated, everything seemed so petty with people worrying about things that don't matter and will be forgotten about very quickly when there were major issues that needed to be dealt with. I desided I couldn't take the stress and was in the fortunate position that I could retire early. Life is so much more relaxing without that stress.

    Rant away we all need to do so.

    Alyson

  • Jayne_in_UK
    Jayne_in_UK Member Posts: 517
    edited February 2010

    I also love a good rant! Even before my diagnosis I had no patience with people complaining about trivial things all the time. All the negativity drags me down and is a waste of precious time. Thanks for starting this thread, I feel less of a grumpy old woman now.

  • Pure
    Pure Member Posts: 1,796
    edited February 2010

    Rant Away-that;s why were are here.  And you know what-you labled your post so  rant away. If you don't like rants there is a warning!

    Rant away....

  • sheila888
    sheila888 Member Posts: 25,634
    edited February 2010

    Just reading this thread makes me feel good.

  • Dawnmrn1
    Dawnmrn1 Member Posts: 446
    edited February 2010

    Go Ahead & RANT!!!!! People are Clueless!  I am a nurse and I listen to people complain for a living!  I just let it go in one ear and out the other!!! Get it off your chest and RANT!!!!! Dawn

  • sheila888
    sheila888 Member Posts: 25,634
    edited February 2010

    I hate to post non stop but one of my friends who didn't know about it, when I told her she said to me ;Oh thats nothing those days everybody getting it; and went on with her anxiety attack problems.

    And I have a father who calls me every day with a new symptom of something. and complaints about even if his leg is itchy. i think he needs attention, but I had it. Finally I told him I was going out of town for 2 days.

    I came from a family that everybody was a drama queen if they didn't like what they heard, they used to get migraines, or dizzy, and their blood pressure went up.

    I lived like that until I was 20 and got married.

    I'M sorry and Thank You for listening to me.

    People should understand that our BC is not about them its about us

    Sheila

  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited February 2010

    I figure, unless someone here attacks me personally, I'm not insulted....if I don't like what someone is saying, I don't have to read it....that is the beauty of bco as support group....you can take what you want and ignore what you don't like.....and isn't the reason we all come here is to have someone(s) understand what we are staying.....I remember a teacher I used to work with....I attribute her comment to stupidity and her being young....she had implants to get bigger boobs for her 24th or 25th bday about a year before I was Dx....when I was doing recon she asked what size implants I was getting....dumb me told her....my first ones were 300cc and she goes those are bigger than what I have and I made a comment that I didn't have anything and she goes, well neither do I!!!  Since when do small boobs equate to boobs being lopped off by Mx because of BC...then after the exchange another teacher wanted me to pose for her...a couple young teachers equated my recon with the teacher who got bigger boobs for her b'day!!!!   I think I just lost focus of the thread!!!!  But I'm so glad that you are all here (well not really because that means you all have/had BC)....so RANT all you want, when you want!!!!

  • o2bhealthy
    o2bhealthy Member Posts: 2,101
    edited February 2010

    I love this thread...I am known as the poster person for positivity at my onc office, church and with my friends because honestly...they just don't get it!!! If I am having a bad day I say so, but for the most part I just say I am doing as good as can be expected.    I just love watching peoples eyes glaze over when I actually do 'answer' a question about my TX and  I am so tired of explaining  what a compression sleeve is!  I have also been very sad at how my family and friends aren't there for me.  Sometimes I feel like I am the only one working to maintain friendships/relationships.   I know everyone had their own 'life' issues but HELLLOOOO...I have spent the last 10 months having my breasts squeeze flat, severed from my body, foreign material implanted under my chest muscles, expanded till I felt like I was going to pop, had an automatic drip system installed so that poison could be delivered directly into my heart and circulatory system to kill an stray cells that may be remaining, have gone into chemical menopause, started hormone blocking drugs to make sure the menopause sticks, started a new job, dealt with insurance crap,  financial issues and mounting debt and yet I AM THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN PICK UP THE PHONE to say hey...how are you????!!!!

    Wow That felt GOOD!!!!!

  • caaclark
    caaclark Member Posts: 936
    edited February 2010

     I love this thread!  The ones I hate are the ones (like my mother) who complain about getting mammograms because they hurt.  Are you f'ing kidding me??!!!  Be happy you are 74 and have never faced ANY life threatening event!  And...be glad you have two boobs that can feel pain.

     I could go on but won't.

  • KerryMac
    KerryMac Member Posts: 3,529
    edited February 2010

    Oh, carol, don't even get me started on Mothers.! As you say, i could go on but I won't!! LOL!

  • everyminute
    everyminute Member Posts: 1,805
    edited February 2010

    ok - actual email copied and pasted from my sister -

    Mri fine.thank god.

    I simply answered - yes, thank God. Maybe now it will stop. 

  • KerryMac
    KerryMac Member Posts: 3,529
    edited February 2010

    Until next time!!

  • cherneski
    cherneski Member Posts: 726
    edited February 2010

    You all know I love a good rant.  The next person that says something like "I could only wish they would just cut mine off, or I have fill in the blank problem", I might just smack!  Damn are you serious?  I also find that most cancer survivors are the most freaking annoying.  Their cancer whatever kind it is, is always worse than mine.  UMMM ok, I really dont get the one up you on cancer thing.  I met a survivor of melanoma the other day and was told "I had most deadly type of cancer".  GO RIGHT AHEAD!  I am still compared all the time with my DH's step monster about how well she did on this or that drug.  GOOD FOR HER! She also takes 20 freaking pills a day, for what I dont know.  And we all know her cancer is soooooo much worse than mine.  BITE ME!  My sisters and I barely talk anymore because I just couldnt deal with their "just be positive and the universe will take care of it" BS!  I just chalk it up to people are just stupid, period end of discussion. 

    Stillvertical~If you click on a topic that has "rant" in the subject line (or any topic, especially stage 3ers), please be respectful.  This is OUR SAFE PLACE.  Please feel free to see yourself out without causing more chaos to our lives. Anger is a part of this disease, if you havent gotten there yet fine but please dont judge those of us who appropriately handle our emotions.  

    Sheila~ I dont think anyone has a problem with you chiming in here.  Rant away girl!  Thats what we are here for.  Smooches Kiss  Congrats on your almost 5 years!  Woo Hoo!  As far as your family or friends go, that stinks.  I am sorry that they dont support you and offer you an ear when you need it, they really just dont understand, but we DO.  So rant away to us anytime, WE GET IT.

    Much love all, Deb

  • victoriasecret
    victoriasecret Member Posts: 333
    edited February 2010

    Hi Girls

    Just got a lovely e- mail from my sis....( I did say I loved her yesterday so karma wont bite me in the....)

    The jist of it was how sorry she could not be there more for me how much she loves me(I am crying right now)....How she prays daily it went on and on ....my last rads is on Fri and she wants to take me out for lunch,her big problem is she does not drive(silly girl)...but i am taking her up on a lunch ...we need to do that.

    Much love all

    C

  • cherneski
    cherneski Member Posts: 726
    edited February 2010

    AWESOME!  Have a great time at lunch!  Congrats on finishing rads!  WOO HOO!

  • janincanada
    janincanada Member Posts: 258
    edited February 2010

    I needed to find this thread today.  I've just had two calls from my 87 year old mother and my sister-in-law.  The jist of their messages was that I should get my lazy fat ass back to work and get over it.  The chemobrain, neuropathy etc are all just in my brain (no pun intended). Go back to work and all will be fine.  Both of them had breast cancer about 5 years ago, but it was a totally different animal.  They were stage I and had lumpectomies with rad.  Totally different from the stage 3 class 3 her2nu + beast that I  was blessed with. 

    Somehow they think that if I went back to work teaching kids with Learning Disabilities and Behaviour designations I would be fine.  I CAN'T MULTITASK. I'm not ready to be responsible for a gerbil let alone my students.  I'm getting there but it is a slow process.  I think the biggest issue with them is that I don't look sick and I exercise. 

    Thank heavens for my DH. He turns off the stove when I forget, locks the door, turns off my computer when I walk away etc. and doesn't make a big deal about it.

    Hugs to all. Rant away when you need to.  It's much better than holding it inside.

  • Mamita49
    Mamita49 Member Posts: 538
    edited February 2010

    I went to our Wellness Center in a support group. The psychologist was great, I loved the guy. Sadly, most women were in competition too, You could tell by just stupid comments like .,.. Well, I am not on Chemo, I will keep my hair. It was terrible, just by looking WHO HAD A WIG WAS A LOOSER.  ( I was soooo upset.....) Someone even said, well, that Lady over there is triple neg, poor her.

    I was happy not to go back, I get my support from others.

  • MJLToday
    MJLToday Member Posts: 2,068
    edited February 2010

    Regarding the sister who had PTSD from your cancer -- here's a classic:

    http://www.theonion.com/content/node/41449

  • kim40
    kim40 Member Posts: 904
    edited February 2010

    Great thread.  I can totally relate to all of  you.  I am so sick and tired of hearing people complain about getting their housework done,  their haircut is too short!  Be glad that you had never had to look in the mirror and see yourself bald, with a scar on your chest and one breast missing.  Be thankful! 

    I used to be one of those people too.  But never again.  Life is too short to sweat the small stuff. 

  • Celtic_Spirit
    Celtic_Spirit Member Posts: 748
    edited February 2010

    This has been stuck in my craw for a couple of months now. A very good friend who lives in another state intimated to me that she was offended that I didn't immediately tell her about my diagnosis. I told her about a month later; fact is, I didn't tell many people - PERIOD - for a lot of reasons - which she knew - so she shouldn't consider herself slighted. For the first month after my diagnosis, I was too busy seeing doctors, getting tests, having surgeries, feeling terrified, and coming to grips with the poop omelette that had landed on my plate to play the town crier. Sorry that I didn't tell my story on your schedule, dear. Ironically, she's the kind of person who dribbles out information in such a way that you never feel you have the whole story. She just recently told me the truth of why she broke up with a former fiancee, and that happened 20 years ago! I'm really just stunned that she could be so petty, because she's usually a very warm & fuzzy type of person.

  • Gayleebug
    Gayleebug Member Posts: 166
    edited February 2010

    Big sigh ... and a gulp ... here I GO on my rant:

    I found out today from one of my co-workers (she's a first level supervisor like I am, and a friend) that when I had to take a leave of absence for 2 months in 2006 -- with no pay, mind you -- to get through a severe depressive episode, all the negative talk that went on while I was gone.  I won't go into all the details but the words "weak, faking, just trying to get out of work, can't handle her life," etc., were used.  From supervisors, peers, folks that work for me ... I guess all of them.  Ok, ok, I don't like it but now I've heard it and I'm moving on.  EXCEPT for the fact THAT NOW I HAVE CANCER the same people are ALL concerned and solicitous and cannot believe that I worked through all my treatments and I'm such a role model.  GEEZ. 

    Cancer is ok and even noble, and depression is not?  Makes me want to scream.

    Gayle

  • lexislove
    lexislove Member Posts: 2,645
    edited February 2010

    The support group thing did NOT go well with me. I went the first time and was like ,"eh." So decided to give it another chance.

    I was still going through chemo and had so much anxiety. I was a mess to put it lightly. Then a woman twice my age, was just diagnosed with DCIS. She was asking me about my disgnosis ect...then she had the nerve to say that HER breast cancer was not the deadly kind.

    At the time, I was speechless.....if that was now, she would have gotten a lot worse. Ill never forget her face.

  • Gayleebug
    Gayleebug Member Posts: 166
    edited February 2010

    I can relate, Lexi.  I have another girl at work who had DCIS and decided on a bilat mast with immed recon (expanders).  In the beginning I thought I would have to strangle her.  Not just her attitude that she apparently couldn't help that her cancer was so much better than mine (being stage 0 rather than stage 3), but that she was soooooo dramatic about everything.  I'm not saying that her pain was any less than my pain.  But it hurt me to talk to her and still be gracious and helpful.

    PS  I do NOT do support groups.  There's probably a reason.

    I guess I am on a wahhhhhh tonight. Wink

  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited February 2010

    I love this thread!!!

    Cherniski...you have such a wonderful way with words....I hope I spelled your name write...I just scrolled up to look at it and then when I went to write it I couldn't remember the correct spelling!!!  So forgive me if it is wrong.....but keep speaking up....you say what many of us are thinking...or at least what I am thinking!!!!!

    Its sad to think that there are so many plain old stupid people out there who don't think before they speak....and since when is BC a competitve sport!!!!  Geeze....I can't believe what we have all had to endure in insensitive comments.....yes...we get it...because we got it (BC)!!!!  Hugs.

  • CaseyDoodle
    CaseyDoodle Member Posts: 144
    edited February 2010

    I have come to hate hearing people complain about having birthdays.  I know it is petty, but I just can't help it.  I do understand that people don't like to let go of their youth, but what the h*ll?  It beats the alternative right??.  Don't complain to me about being another year older - it's a blessing!!!  Celebrate your birthday and shut up - or don't celebrate and let it pass without notice, just don't WHINE about it!!!

    OK, thanks.  I feel better now....

  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited February 2010

    Kay.I was so looking forward to turning 50 and celebrating...well I celebrated all right, but it was recovering from chemo round #3!! so I think I've just gotten to not wanting to make anything out of my b'day....I want it to be a non-event....when the day comes I'm okay, but I don't anticipate it....I just want it to be another day of the weekI!!!  guess its not wanting to be disappointed...but I agree with you, it beats the alternative.....I guess this is different than whining about a b'day...

    I keep saying it....I love this thread!!!

  • cherneski
    cherneski Member Posts: 726
    edited February 2010

    Poop omelet!  LMAO  now that is funny. I am lucky with the support group I attend (although I havent been there in MONTHS), they are all great Women.  There was 1 girl there for a little while that had DCIS and did bi-lat, she kept complaining how she wasnt healing right and problems with TEs and kept picking up her 3 y/o daughter.  I kindly said, maybe you shouldnt pick her up till you are healed, if she could have shot me she would have.  You can tell she was one of "those" ppl.  It was all about the attention.  Uggg, I guess we all deal in our own way, but I have a real problem with Drama Queens and what not. 

    Love the responses!  I am gonna try some of them.  I will definitely tell someone I had them leave a little behind next time lol.

    Love all you my twisted sisters here with me.  Great RANT.  I love rants.Laughing

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