You know what I hate...rant!
I hate when people complain about things that are not worth complaining about or, worse, complain about problems that they have created.
I understand that everything is relative but, c'mon folks, if you have to complain about this cr@p - at least don't do it to me - my patience and sympathy is very short for this kind of stuff.
Again - I know that everything is relative and whatever problems you have are huge but it irritates me to no end when people are not grateful for what they have and only focus on the negative (by the way, I felt the same way prior to diagnosis)
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Oh, I could go on about this subject relating to my sister at the minute, she always has some crises or other that is going on. My goodness. And again, all of her own making. Not that I wish her any ill obviously, but I did say to my husband that I wonder if she would feel the same if she was really faced with a life threatening situation.
And I hate the preface "I hate to go on about this to you, after all you have been through, but,,,," If you hate to go on about it, then don't.
Oops, sorry, guess you toughed a nerve in me too! LOL!
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"I hate when people complain about things that are not worth complaining about or, worse, complain about problems that they have created."
Ditto. I work with people who have made the same choices time after time and complain non stop about their situations. I lose patience after a while.
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haha, Kerry I have the same thing going on with my sister. She just came down to visit with us in Fla. and she was so bloody annoying!!!!! AHhhhhh, so glad I can just write this down!!! I have told her many times just that, she needs a life threatening moment to put it all in perspective. But, that won't happen, because until you've experienced it, people like that just do not get it and there's no use trying. "Pain" really is subjective.
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I believe we are more aware of "dont sweat the small stuff "...cancer has taught us what to embrace and what to let go...My dear mom who is 82 and I am blessed to have her, she is a 4x cancer survivor....I had to ask her politely to not include her bowel movements in every conversation we have(she has had bowel ca 2x)so I know that is why she is obsessed .
I have even had to calm my hubby down sometimes with the "Is that really important to argue over?"whether with me or the kids ? I have calmed down much since my dignosis.
So this is the gift breast cancer has given us.
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I am so glad you all understand. I just about blew my stack (funny saying, huh?) when my sister emailed me for the FOURTH time about her breast MRI and how she was so scared and they had to stop half way through and give her valium and how hard it was to lay there and how degrading and blah blah blah - really? She told me she has PTSD and that is why it is harder for her. PTSD from WHAT? omg.
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Sorry have to add ...My sister is also a breast ca survivor...and has just come up to her 5 year mark ...after I was diagnosed she went into panic mode ...every convo was about a concerm of her aches and pains...she would ask how I was and then go on about her concerns for herself...it made me sad not mad.
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Mary just read your post ...that is exactly what I have gone through with my sis I love her dearly and she is a 2x cancer survivor...but right now its about me(is that bad ?) ...I was there for her when she was going through her cancers...she seems to be finding lumps and bumps...and then saying Phew it was nothing .,she had none of this before I was diagnosed..dont get me wrong I am very thankful that she is ok ..I just dont think she knows where I am right now in this journey.
ml C
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Well my sister is not a bc survivor - she is just crazy :-) but I hear you!
By the way, big shocker - my sisters MRI is clear. She pays for them out of pocket because insuarnce won't cover them but she keeps telling the docs - BUT MY SISTER HAD STAGE 3 CANCER - I DONT WANT THAT TO HAPPEN TO ME! Gee - thanks.
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Ok my sister was the one when I was newly diagnosed to inform me she had talked to her doctor about my diagnosis and her doctor said ...OH I had a patient with those stats went on to develop bone mets ...but lived 20 years longer .....THANKS that made me feel better...but I did not say anything...and WHY are you talking to your doctor about ME !!! GAAAA...I still love her !!
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Sorry...I know the answer FEAR
much love girls
C
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I think the difference is FEAR of the unknown versus FEAR of the known - we are very aware of what we are afraid of!
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I know that is why my sis is acting that way she is scared to death !!!Her breast ca was very early stage 1 no nodes and 5 years out but when I was diagnosed ...the fear returned.
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My 5 year out is coming soon and I am nervous but God forbid if I even say anything to my friends or certain family members. They jump on me saying ;I don't even want to hear about it, its all behind you" and believe me I hardly say anything about my BC.
I have my 4 month appointment with my Oncologist on March 1st, yes I'm nervous as I was every appt the last few years.
Sometimes I really believe people are afraid about their own fears and as long as they don't hear you mentioning the C word everything will be fine.
Everyminute..Thank you for opening this thread. I feel better just hearing other BC sisters facing the same issues.
Sheila
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Sorry if I posted on the wrong thread because of my stage.
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i've got this sis..
shudder.. she's so negative - she's always been this way. i love her but try to avoid spending too much time with her. We got together to rehearse for a wedding (she sings, i play) and all she did was rant and rave about the priests, parishioners, her job..
focus sis focus
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Welcome Sheila - cancer is scary no matter what stage. Good luck at your appt and congrats on 5 years!
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everyminute, maybe your sister has PTSD from the trauma of - HAVING A SISTER WHO HAD BC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Poor thing.
I once managed to (nicely) stop someone in her tracks when she was about to begin a rant about how HARD it was to deal with her food allergies and how she had to be constantly vigilant. I started to talk about how, while it was difficult, wasn't it a blessing that all she had to do in order to stay healthy was NOT eat certain things. A pain in the neck but not a crisis. Since I also have severe food allergies she reluctantly agreed - I think she realized it would be futile to continue (she did not know I ws going through treatment for bc a the time).
I had a friend who used to visit me frequently while I was going through treatment. A lot of the times we would talk about her problems in her marriage. I didn't feel like it was negative (for me) that we talked about this. Well, first of all marital problems, while not bc, ARE serious. Also, the fact that she confided in me and asked me for ideas made me feel NORMAL, like she saw me as LEAH and not LEAH WHO HAS BC.
But then again, she didn't have PTSD from having a sister with bc....
Leah
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omg totally agree. I can't handle listening to people talk about stupid stupid crap.That actually has been really hard for me with friends etc b-c some of the things they complain/ talk about is so stupid. They don't realize how good they have it and it drvies me nutso.
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Wow, I am not sure what is up with this story on ranting-but responses sound so very harsh. If anyone needs to rant, feel free to do it on my PM. People are simply doing the best they can and some don't have a lot of tools to deal with life. And we all have choices about WHO went invite into our homes and who we want to spend time with! Acceptance of people, places and things has to be most important for me. I cannot expect a person with 'no legs' to walk to me. Again, I likely do not have full story as I have 'chemo brain' and not read back threads, but this rant at the beginning seems really angry and negative!! Sorry if I have misinterpreted. This just jumped off the Board at me and ouch! Blessings and Serenity Prayers to all, SV
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And then I have a friend who it beautiful, healthy, has a great job, great family but suffers from depression and anxiety and while I feel badly for her - I just cant spend too much time with her - she brings me down and I am afraid I will slip and slap her upside the head.
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Stillverticle - and you, my friend, have the choice to read or not read this thread :-)
Speaking for myself - I use this board as an outlet so that I can deal with people in the outside world (and not slap them upside the head :-) - can't imagine what I would do if I had to hold it all inside!
I am, however, sorry if I offended you. It truly was not my intent. Just needed to vent to my sistahs'
Have a great day!
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Leah I love when my friends have conversations and bc is not even mentioned !!
I love my sister trust me I just think people dont think sometimes ...now do I be angry breast Cancer lady and chew their heads off ..no..I have not even mentioned it to my sister..I come here ..and now I feel better ..thanks for starting the thread !!much love C
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Rants usually do sound harsh...hence the warning "rant" LOL. Vent away, sister.
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everyminute ~ Vent away sis, you know I am a ranter or complainer on many of my threads. It's how we get our frustrations out here. I don't get offended when any of our BC sis's need to vent. Have your say because I know how frustrating it is with BC and having to deal with friend and family's insensitvity, and stupidity in their comments.
Barb
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Rant away.................it we couldn't come here to rant, vent and talk where else could we go? Friends, family and co-workers don't understand where we're coming from. They try the best that they can, but at times offend and upset us because they just don't get it. Coming here to vent helps us get it out of our system so that dealing with the people who may have said or done something insensitive is a little easier.
Rant.............rant...........rant.........
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Everyminute, somehow you have managed to answer a question for me that has been bothering me since last weekend. I had a chance to visit my next door neighbor (young, 28, beautiful, and due to have her first baby in about 3 weeks). I could tell that she was very excited to be finishing up her pregnancy. She should be. I am very excited for her and her husband. However, the ENTIRE TIME that I was at her house--which was about 3 1/2 hours--she complained about how "big" she was, how she can't eat what she wants, can't drink what she wants, how much her tummy hurts, how hard it is to move, etc... I mean, she didn't stop the whole time I was there! I couldn't figure out until now why I was bothered so much by it. I know that women in the late terms of their pregnancies are uncomfortable and all, but I felt kinda bad that I was put out by her complaining. Now I understand why.
Thank you... I don't feel so bad any more. :-)
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You know, I am always attracted to posts that have the word "rant' in them!! LOL!
Our sisters should all get together and have a neurotic sister club!! Even when I was diagnosed, it became all about her. When i was waiting for my scans to come back she was a mess, had everyone running around after her, my mother even said to me "well, it's been so hard on her". Yeah, imagine being me for a second. I really could go on and on.
Right now she has got herself into yet another financial mess, and keeps on doing stuipid things with money, then wondering why they are broke.
Anyhow, luckily she lives on the other side of the world from us - lets hear it for Caller ID!! I really am not sure Angus could cope if we lived in the same country! LOL!
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People are too self absorbed.
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I have spent a lot of time and effort managing the whole communications process out to friends and business associates because I did NOT want to be viewed as the "poor breast cancer victim". I think most of them still see me as "their friend Claire who is going though a bit of a tough time".
That was important to me.
My sisters were worthless in terms of any moral support prior to my diagnosis with energy flowing outwards. This has not changed. One has sent me flowers several times, but is otherwise very demanding, and the other would just rather not be bothered.
So I am looking towards my friends, and I do get what I need. Just got the most wonderful birthday greetings from my Facebook friends from across the world. That means a lot to me.
As for negative, whiny, sappy complainers, they will continue to be with us. Some are on these boards. When I read these posts (and I am not talking Stage IV or newly diagnosed BC who are scared which is a different story), I take the learning and move on.
Because focused on the positive, and a new and wonderful life post treatment, is where I what to be. As for the BC, I have already kicked that sucker to the curb.
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I love the rants, too! Somehow reading others helps me realize I was feeling the same way but hadn't figured it out. Thanks for the free therapy everyone! Anyway, I was talking about this very subject with a friend of mine the other day. It turns out her husband was very close friends with a minister who was undergoing treatment for cancer. Yet he had to sit there every day and counsel people with so many insignificant little problems they brought upon themselves. Even in his profession, he admitted having a hard time not just giving some of them a slap upside the head! I'm glad I'm an accountant.
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