January Mastectomy
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Yay! Brenda and Sally too!
This is soooo much easier!
Wonderful on the oncotype dx Donna! Lets feel 30%ish together! Whohoo!
Sorry about your drains. I just had the last one pulled today from the armpit...yowzah! But only for about 15 sec and now my quality of life just improved 10 fold. I get to take a shower...I get to take a shower....skipping.....:)
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Kat,
Hi, Nice to meet you all! Donna, Sally, Brenda, everyone! I am Paula! Glad you finally get to take a shower!!! yay! does that mean that you did not get your fill today? I am recovering well, getting back to a place where I can do more, still don't have the same range of motion that I had made it to but baby steps! Lucky that I have a great husband and family. My poor son (5) is running a fever tonight so I am home with him while the rest of the family is out for dinner celebrating my SIL b-day. I don't mind missing the SIL (not my favorite person) but now I actually have to fend for myself for dinner! Augghh! Here's a first in a while! Guess we'll be having something pretty simple tonight! Maybe I'll just have margaritas! haha! JK! Haven't been able to get those off my mind since we set our clubhouse date! Anyway, I'm all about the January Recovery Group! Love and blessings to all of my sisters!
Bless & Release!
Paula
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This is TNgolfer (Marianne), not unusual to have more than 60cc in 24 hr period. My 3rd drain also did well over 100cc in 1st 24 hrs, getting down to 50cc now and hopefully by Monday, this one will be done and out! Doesn't this cancer teach us patience??
I decided not to wait until my surgeons were ready to refer me to an oncologist; I did a little "shopping". Met with a great resource at the Breast Center at local university hospital. She gave me names of 3 oncologists who "specialize" in breast cancer patients only. My appointment is set for 2/17. I believe (from what I have read) I will be eligible for the Onco Dx type as well. That test will weigh the risk/benefit of chemo vs recurrence.
Finally getting a little more sleep; the benedryl helps. Feel awake and alert and no drugged. Today is 7 days out from 2nd surgery and I feel so much better.
Advocate for yourselves ladies. Find out everything you can and remember it is your body, they are your decisions, it is your life. Great doctors don't mind being questioned - in face, they encourage it. There are some great books at the library and some good stuff on the internet. Empower yourselves with knowledge. And, of course, this cyber group therapy is what will keep us all sane though this.
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My real name is Debbie and you are certainly welcome to call me by that name, as I may be the only Debbie in the January 'recovery' group.
I have been around for so long, and there are sooooooo many Debbies sprinkled around BCO, that the other threads that I frequent have adopted me as Faith or faithie (combination of Debbie and Faith) to help keep me straight from the many other Debbies.
If it turns out I'm the only Debbie here --we can go with that concept, LOL.
My posture is a constant reminder. I must continually prompt myself to "work" at standing tall. I feel myself caving in further and further by the hour, but am working hard to combat the tendancy of gravity.
I am now taking two to three 20 minute walks thru the neighborhood per day. Today I traveled further in the same amount of time, so I must be picking up the pace a bit. LOL.
My husband is being nominated for spouse of the century. He massages my neck and back and helps me with my shoulders.
Can't wait till our entire crew is drain-free. There will be a round of cyber margaritas for everyone on that occasion. I hope that everyone has some great plans on the horizon for the weekend. We have some fun social events -- which will be my first to integrate with 'people'.
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Strength and courage.
Strength and courage.
Strength and courage.
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Hi everyone! Just stopping by to say "hello" and catch up with how everyone is doing.
I had my first chemo treatment today, and it went really well. It was a long day, but I feel fine. I am armed with great information of what to watch for and am lucky that my oncologist is the one on call this weekend, just in case. Also had a nice chat with my oncologist today before the chemo so had the chance to discuss some things. He's great and wants a real discussion, not like some doctors who only want to do all of the talking. I got my prescription for a wig, which my insurance covers. I don't expect to use it often, but there will be times, I'm sure. The hair loss shouldn't begin until almost 2 weeks from now, but who knows for sure? I have a thick head of red hair, and it can be very stubborn!
Nice to see everyone's real names popping up. It makes it more personal, and we have certainly been personal!
Three months of chemo for me, once very three weeks, so that means that as of today, ONE DOWN, ONLY THREE SESSIONS TO GO! WhoooHooo!
Take care, all, and know that we have all kicked some major cancer butt this year! I'm still kicking!
Cindy
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I agree that it would be nice to see this thread continue. Why not? We have so much in common.First having breast cancer, then having mastectomies in January, and now some sharing some other common challenges as the journey continues.
I met with oncologist yesterday and have enrolled in the TailorX clinical trial. I am in Canada, so I believe they call it the oncotype test in the states, and for anybody in Canada, it is the TailorX clinical trial. For Canadians, if you don't go into the trial, it would cost approx. $3,600.00 US to have the test done. I was told that it will take approx. 3 weeks to get the results, because they have to get my slides from Toronto, sent to my home city, then sent to California. That must be one huge lab in California if all of these sample as sent there? For me I was told a score of 11 and under, no chemo required, a score of 25 or higher, chemo would be recommended. A score in the grey area of between 11 and 25 would put you randomized as to either have chemo or hormone therapy only. Basically a flip of the coin. Kind of makes you wonder how something so serious, you could end up doing or not, by the flip of the coin. Hopefully, it comes back less than 11!!!!!!! This time I would mind going on the trip, unfortunately only my tumor gets to go this time.
The other thing I thought worth mentioning is when I met with oncologist, I am still having a very hard time accepting being breastless, and can get very emotional about it. He wanted to see how things were healing, and seemed very puzzled with how emotional I am about it. I explained that I still have not been able to look at it. He genuinely seemed confused by my reaction, and commented that "the cancer is gone, this is really good". He is absolutely right, the cancer is gone, and I am happy about that, but I am still at the same time also very sad not to have breast. He is a man, so just doesn't understand, although I think the world of him, he is a man. I think not being able to do immediate reconstruction does make this that much more difficult. Where you can take for granted waking up in the morning and just throwing anything on, without even thinking about it, now, it is such an effort trying to find clothing to hide behind. I do have a couple of cammisoles with the "fluffies" but it feels like they move around and after a while they are under your chin. I hate to complain, because there are so many others that have it so much worse than I do, I am feeling very frustrated again. I just want my life back, and I know that will never be the same.
Thanks for letting me vent,
Cathy
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Cathy,
How you feel about yourself IS a part of the whole recovery. Don't apologize or discount your feelings. I am sure he is a wonderful oncologist (sounds like it), but after all, he is a man and cannot possibly understand the breast connection. The most difficult decision I made throughout this ordeal was whether to have reconstruction or not. It is an agonizing decision and, at times, I questioned my motives. I tried to think of all the reasons I wanted to keep my breasts. Whatever those reasons are, they are YOUR reasons. They are not superficial. You have to be comfortable with your own decision. If you weren't a candidate for immediate reconstruction, maybe you will consider it later or if not, find the resources to help you get comfortable with whatever choice you make or whatever choice is made for you. I am glad you are here with us.
Marianne
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Morning Ladies {hugs}
Thursday I saw my PS and had my drains removed. As annoying and uncomfortable as they were I was afraid it would hurt when they came out. But I didn't feel it at all. Had my first fill of the expanders. 190cc on the left and 120cc on the right. It didn't hurt, it was more of a cold, heavy, tight sensation. Some of the fluid on the left backed out and that side is now a little uncomfortable. Nothing that ibuprofen can't handle
Without the drains I had the most refreshing and best shower of my life. I am now well on my way to the final reconstruction and I can not wait.
Friday I met the oncologist. I was so emotionally drained, exhausted really, that I came home and went straight to bed. Just fell asleep straight away. I was told ER+, PR+, Her2-. This is very good news and I was relieved. One of the reasons I made the decision for mastectomy was because I did not want radiation. I also did not want chemo and the oncologist didn't recommend it (YAY!) We did discuss Tamoxifen and Herceptin but I opted not to because taking this only marginally changed the survivability odds. I am so blessed and know how lucky I am. I feel a little guilty that I am getting off so easy when so many of you are having a harder time. My heart and love goes out to all of the January ladies. I think our group rocks
I added in the first names to the original list for easy reference if that helps:
Jan 4 - angicpa () - total right mastectomy
Jan 5 - SherryAF (Sherry) - bilateral mastectomy, immediate Free Tram
Jan 5 - cleo100 () - bilateral mastectomy, TE
Jan 6 - robinlbe (Robin) - bilateral mastectomy
Jan 7 - Lynh (Lyn) - bilateral mastectomy, immediate TE
Jan 7 - CinD (Cindy) - left mastectomy,node removal immediate TE
Jan 7 - Leah58 (Leah) - bilateral mastectomy
Jan 8 - Sunsnow (Maura) - bilateral mastectomy,SNB,expanders
Jan 8 - pbebow (Paula) - bilateral mastectomy,SNB, expanders
Jan 11 - frosty1 (Brenda) - bilateral mastectomy, delayed DIEP
Jan 12 - formykids (Cathy) - bilateral mastectomy, SNB,delayed DIEP (I think)
Jan 12 - cat60 (Cathy) - right mastectomy, immediate TE
Jan 12 - iamgiggles1 (Kelly) - bilateral mastectomy, delayed recontstruction
Jan 12 - judgejaclyn (Jaclyn) - bilateral mastectomy,SNB,immediate TE
Jan 12 - jakhope () - partial mastectomy, SNB
Jan 12 - Daler () - right mastectomy, immediate reconstruction
Jan 13 - Lynbob (Lyn) - bilateral mastectomy, SNB,immediate TE
Jan 13 - mom2mms (Maria) - left mastectomy, SNB, immediate TE
Jan 14 - Jill1965 (Jill) - left mastectomy, SNB, immediate TE
Jan 14 - MelissaD (Melissa) - bilateral mastectomy,nipple sparing,SNB, immediate TE
Jan 15 - faithandfifty (Debbie) - bilateral mastectomy
Jan 18 - taraleec () - bilateral mastectomy,delay surgery,TRAM reconstruction
Jan 19 - Shelly328 (Shelly) - bilateral mastectomy, reconstruction
Jan 21 - TexasPeaches (Susan) - right mastectomy
Jan 21 - Susie123 (Susie) - bilateral mastectomy, immediate TE
Jan 22 - boromom (Melissa) - bilateral mastectomy, immediate TE
Jan 25 - Neversurrender (Sally) - bilateral mastectomy, immediate DIEP
Jan 25 - KatRNagain92 (Kat)- bilateral mastectomy, SNB, immediate TE
Jan 25 - ariesrottie (Donna) - mastectomy, immediate TE
Jan 26 - KELL414240 () - bilateral mastectomy,SNB,immediate TE
Jan 26 - aces () - bilateral mastectomy, immediate TE
Feb 24 - CindiS (Cindi) - mastectomy
Jan 27 - binga (Becky) - bilateral mastectomy,immediate TE
Jan 27 - grdnslve (Lola) - right mastectomy, delay reconstruction
Jan 28 - lexislove () - right TE removed,implant placed, left breast lift
Jan 28 - TNgolfer (Marianne) - bilateral masectomy, immediate TE
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Thanks Lyn for the name conversion list! That is wonderful. (I printed it out) I love this group and now it does seem so much more personal.
I feel really good today. Drain free (no fill Paula...not for 2 more weeks but still ready for the margaritas!) I'm looking forward to my shower here in a bit. It's amazing how much better I feel without those damn drains. I didn't think they would make that much of a difference. I'm doing more and more but anticipate the set back when I get a fill. My expanders have 500cc capacity so I'm already half way there. Now, if that oncotype-DX says I don't have to have chemo, that certainly will expedite the reconstruction and get me back to work quicker. Yay Marianne on the oncotype test...good luck with that. (and amen to benedryl...it's the best!)
Prayers continue across the board.
I understand Cathy about accepting. My husband still really hasn't seen them yet. He's stolen peeks at the doctors but that is it. Every magazine I look at I zoom in to the models breasts. I had some good ones and now they are gone. Sometimes that is my first waking thought. I wonder how my clothes will start hanging and I've purchased a couple of cool scarves to wear in different way. But truthfully, these incisions just make them look angry and disfigured. The one thought I did have is only my husband really knows for sure...all the countless masses out there that see me with clothes on would have no idea what I am hiding under here. A positive attitude continues to be mandatory.
How is your skin Maria? Sally....how's your healing coming along?
Cindi, Good luck with your continued chemo...the once every three weeks sounds very manageable...If I have to have it, I hope it will be the same.
If I could swing it, I would love to go to AZ for a week during this recovery period (between fills and doctors appointments) I'm just so damn terrified of lymphedema from flying since the axillary node dissection that is really swaying my decision.
Well ladies...have a wonderful day, thanks again Faithie for this original thread...it's been a Godsend!
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Kat,
From what I have read, you can fly. Ask the doctor about a compression sleeve for that arm.
I am now 8 days on the "other side" and feeling better each day. One drain left, but it is down to 40cc over the past 24 hours and dwindling steadily so I am hoping it will come out Monday. It is really bothering me (it is annoying). This is still quite a roller coaster ride we are all on....get past one hurdle and on to the next. PERSEVERANCE and PATIENCE -- a tough combo! I love this group. It is my morning "fix" and my oasis in the storm. It is the place I find encouragement, good advice and feel the love. My husband has been surprisingly helpful. He has taken care of ALL household chores. I haven't done a thing since I came home. But, he, too, is having a tough time. My neighbor helped change bandages when I first got home. He went to the PS appointment and also sneaked a peak. I think it is just a different process for the husbands.
I too have 500 cc capacity TE's. PS said he would fill the left with over 100 on Thursday...that is the one that had to be deflated during the 2nd surgery (which was a muscle tear). That's making me a little scared, but I trust he knows what he is doing....been doing it for over 18 years! He won't fill the right, in order to catch up. Then he plans on fills once a week for 6 weeks. Said he will over-fill,so when he places the implants there will be room for them to move around. Apprehensive about how all of this will feel. Right now, just feel very tight and sore on the right and a lot of tightness, soreness, and numbness on the left.
Lyn, Thanks for the list. Thanks for the info on how the fills felt. Great news for you...I am hoping the OncoDx will be kind to me as (just like everyone else) I am not looking forward to the prospects of chemo....one step at a time.
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Cathy -- everyone handles this disease and the progressive treatments differently. For me, it wasn't the breast, but my hair. When I found out I need to go through 6x chemo, I just bawled. I had short hair for 20+ years and have spent the last 4 growing it out shoulder length and I love it. It seems silly, but it is real to us. I have heard some people refer to a MX as an amputation -- you get phantom pains, still feel like it is there, just like an arm or a leg. One day at a time! Cindi - I"m jealous you have only 3 months! I don't start until March 3 -- I wanted to take mid-winter break off with my daugther and the surgeon's schedule for my port pushed me waaaay out.
Small steps, deep breathing, and margaritas on the porch!
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Thanks for the list Lyn, makes it easier to figure everyone out
I was fortunate to have immediate recon, and I think my surgeons did a fantastic job. My BS removed my areola and nipples and then all the tissue was removed through that hole. Then my PS used those holes to put all my tummy tissue and fat in (and somehow attached all the blood vessels through those holes). He then took a circle of tummy skin and covered the holes. When I am all done with recon, he says my tattoos will cover the circle completely and I should have no visible scars. This totally amazes me.
Brenda - what you said about phantom pains....I totally get that...I was cold the other day and the chill went straight through me and I swear, I felt like I had Nips......intellectually, I know it is impossible, but I still had to feel with my hand....very strange.
My recovery is going very well. One drain left, but I feel very close to "normal". I have a lot of restrictions on lifting and bending due to the diep, but am moving normally. I was able to go off all my pain meds on day 8, not even needing Tylenol since. My incisions appear to be healing well. My doc did not use any dressings, so they have been open and visible the entire time. I guess it makes you get used to them fast. I find it odd, the differences in docs as to showering and such. I have been allowed to shower with my drains and uncovered incisions. No wound care required, bandages or etc. Don't you wonder why they are all so different??
Donna, Kat, and Cathy....I will keep sending prayers that you hit the 30%, or under 11 score.
To all my sisters in the JMRG (January Mastectomy Recovery Group) stay strong !!
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Great list, Lyn...
Robinlbe is just Robin.....(the lbe is for my midde initial, my maiden name initial, and my last name initial....it's what I use for everything....)
You know, I'm grateful I don't have to do chemo, rads, or even tamoxifen....I chose the bilateral so I wouldn't have to take tamoxifen, actually. But sometimes I actually have a form of survivor's guilt - when I hear you other gals talk about what you're going through. I feel so badly that I've come out on the better side of all this. Just because I was fortunate enough, lucky enough, blessed enough, or whatever - that mine was caught before the cancer was invasive - mine was still contained within the duct walls.
BUT, each morning I awaken and I hate it. I chose not to have immediate reconstruction - to give myself a chance to take this step-by-step. To not automatically decide that I wasn't going to be able to handle being flat. I dread going to bed at night because it's still hard to get totally comfortable, even now (and my surgery was a month ago TODAY!!!), and then I dread waking up - to the reality that I have no breasts! I hate the hollow feeling, the concaveness....
I hate fighting with the little bumper pads that came with the softee 2's. I tried putting them in my sports bras and even my regular bras. Finally gave up and have just been wearing my regular cami's with lots of layers. Hiding. I look at myself regularly each morning before getting in the shower, after getting out of the shower, while getting dressed for bed. Massaging the scars with lotion; thinking *maybe* I could get used to this.
I didn't have large breasts to begin with. I was small. But small breasts were definitely better than no breasts. I didnt' realize how much so.
And I am SO tired of people telling me I should be so glad to be rid of the very things that were trying to kill me.....
But yet, you guys, I don't know what to do about reconstruction......I really don't. I've read what you all have written. I've been reading the other threads about fills of implants...I have already been SO miserable with my tightness that I can't imagine how awful I'd feel if I were any more tight! And I know I'd have to be tighter if I had implants that were being filled. Where I live, my only options are TRAM and implants. I don't have enough tummy for TRAM for both breasts, so that's obviously out. I don't have enough guts to go out-of-town/out-of-state to have something more drastic down, nor do I have enough guts to have the rest of my body cut on to make new breasts.....
I know there's nothing you all can do for me...I know. Right now, you're just my sounding board. Because I know you all "get" it. Others try to understand, but they don't. You all DO!
I'm on my roller coaster again. I was good all this past week...feeling very UP....now, I'm heading straight down again.....
Sally - ONE question....I can't, for the life of me, figure out how in the world your doctor removed all of your breast tissue through that small hole area....how long did your surgery take???? Where do you live? That is absolutely amazing!!!
Thanks for reading/listening/being my shoulder to cry on this morning....because I am..
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Robin, I added your name into the list in my other post. I wanted to give you a hug and tell you that you are not alone in the 'survivor's guilt'. Some of these lovely ladies are having greater hurdles and I feel like I am getting off easy. And there is nothing easy about any of this. No 'easy' decision' to choose lumpectomy or mastectomy. Usually the people who say it is easy have not been faced with a life changing decision.
I am sorry that the reconstruction decision is hard. It just is. There is no 'easy' path here. I could not face waking up from recovery without something there. I think you are very brave to take the time to see how you feel. See how it looks and make your decision based on having lived it. You can always do reconstruction later on. I thought I wanted the TRAM until I watched PS's video on the different reconstruction procedures. That was too invasive for me but it may be right for someone else. I am sad that I miss 'the girls' who have been with me for most of my life. And my birthmark on the right (cancerous side) that was incised away with the rest of the tissue. You are right, this is a loss. {hugs}
I am excited about the reconstruction. My doctor prefers gel over saline for implants and he is very good at what he does. Breasts are his specialty and he works closely with the local breast centers and caters to BC patients. He leaves room on his schedule for new BC patients and always moves their surgeries ahead of elective surgeries. There is a forum on here on Reconstruction you might find helpful.
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I could write a book, but that would take a tad longer......
Robin & Cathy & I are the three without recon. I am now 3 weeks out and just beginning to realize the road ahead as far as "acceptance". You may remember this is incidence #2 with BC for me. I thought that I'd had 'plenty' of time to make this decision, which is true, but the reality of the aftermath is indeed just 3 weeks old.
Today the sun is out, the sky is blue, I'm in FL and taking my second 20 minute walk has worn me out. Those are all facts. So is the fact that I am now flat.
Today I'm not sure if I'm outta my mind, or in-fact "brave"??? (as reported by my BC mentor)
When I take a deep breath, I will again remember that this was my 'informed' choice. That does not mean that there isn't grieving involved. I know intellectually that 3 weeks is not long enough for the grief to be expressed. This time next February I will reflect on these days differently, but today I'm allowing myself to feel the sadness, cry some tears and breath into the acceptance of the whole story.
My physical pain/ROM creates the psychological pain -- for me.
My dear, dear DH wants all to be back to the happy-go-lucky and on-the-go-girl. He has stood beside my descision process, but wants the 'rest' of me to be whole: today. He doesn't care about fluffies or foobies or flat chested dingle-boppers, but he wants "me" to be ready & raring to go. Which brings me back to the tears of the healing process.
It is a process.
I've known the 'survivor-guilt' concept, and I'm simultaneously 'there' & aching over this new body. It is a bizarre set of circumstances to combine together.
For today, I will content myself with "hiding" under the layers of camaflage (how do you spell that?) and have as my ONE goal for the day to go to our community building tonight for Karioke nonsense. Now, I do not plan to sing-from-the-stage, but I do plan to 'force' myself to be with people tonight -- for the first time.
Keep your fingers crossed. They will in essence be total strangers, so this is a practise evening, to reintegrate with the living..... while in the midst of my healing and grieving.
((((((((((((((((Robin & Cathy)))))))))))))))))))))
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robin & cathy--i know how you feel--that crater is killing me, hubby can't look & that is killing me-but it was a blessing in disguise for me to not have had the reconstruction since the whole game plan has changed. now i can just heal, get the chemo & rad then deal with reconstruction.
have to edit this, as regarding the little pads, i had to take out some of the stuffing as it looked too weird with the unsupported hanging basket next to it..and my camisole has velcroe to keep it in place once i get it positioned. doesn't look good enough to wear just a shirt alone, but at least provides some balance with another shirt or vest over. then i found some gel type boobies to use in my bra whenever that will be comfortable...hoping that will get me through being in public.
wierd how the guys are so obsessed with boobs--there is cleavage everywhere--yet they can say it is no big deal. although i appreciate my hubby saying that, no amount of encouragement would help him if john henry had been whacked off--i mean that in the surgical sense.
by the way, i am lola.
brenda & cindy- not sure which thread i posted this on, but one of my patients at the clinic i worked at cut her hair before it fell out, then hot glued, sewed & velcroed pieces about the rims of various hats...it was wonderful. she didn't want her clients aware of her situation. anyway, it became her signature--those wonderful hats continued even when the hair came back.
lyn--thanks from me too, for continueing this thread, as i was afraid we would splinter during this journey due to our differing experiences. hopefully this will help all of us maintain our perspective and emotional balance.
have to say thanks to you for helping me this week as my little world was shattered. i was not allowing this to be any big deal, and it was much bigger than they were expecting, so i was that much more flattened.
hugs to you all,
lola
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Debbie...Good luck going out in public for the first time tonight...I went out last week for the first time, but had on so many thick layers, and it was in the midst of total strangers (in a restaurant), I felt safe. Then, Wednesday night, I did go to orchestra rehearsal - I've been in this orchestra since Jan. 1993!! They all clapped when I walked in
Again, I was dressed in layers. They knew I had been diagnosed with breast cancer, but I'm not sure how many knew I had a BMX, so again, that felt safer.
Tomorrow will be my biggest venture back into my world yet. I was going to try last week, but fortunately (whew!) the weather was too cold....church. These are the people who love me, and have faithfully prayed for me ever since I was diagnosed. They have sent cards, brought meals, inquired of my family every week, called, etc....they KNOW about the BMX...I will feel naked, I'm sure. I stand in front of them every Sunday as part of the worship team, either playing my flute, the piano, or singing. I gotta tell you, I dread going. Not as much now as I did last week, but I am actually scared. I'm sure that sounds a little silly....
The next big step will be when I go back to school in a few weeks (about 3 or 4)....with my K-5th graders. When I had told my students that I had been diagnosed with cancer (some classes I thought were mature enough to hear "breast", and some weren't), one obnoxious kid had the nerve to ask me if I would be getting my "boobs cut off".....sigh. Yes, to face 350+ little darlings...
Well, I had my big, big cry right before my shower a little bit ago. My husband held me. Hugged me. Kissed me. He even kissed my scars. Bless his heart. He hurts for me because he knows how badly I am hurting. I thought I could handle this....I really thought I could. Said he'll support me in anything I want to do - whether it's staying flat or going for reconstruction later. He just wants me to be happy, comfortable, satisfied.
I'm SO glad we have each other on here. Because I know others don't want to hear me talk through this anymore....I've already heard one person tell me "get past this already, get on with life"......I'M TRYING, I'M TRYING....but unfortunately, this IS part of my life right now....sigh.
Let's see. I"ve known for all of three months I've had cancer. I've had three surgeries since then, and I lost my breasts one month ago. Yep, get past it already. Like a pot hole in the road.
I'm so glad you all understand....thanks for being there....(sorry I'm having one of those days...)
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Robin,
No one can make that decision for you. My only advice is to find and meet with others who have had Mx and have made different choices about recon. Hear their stories. Ask them questions. See their results. That is what I did. It helped me to make the decision. I can't begin to tell you what men think (I don't think they really know). I know my husband sincerely felt that he would rather have me alive without breasts, but we all know they would much rather have us alive and with breasts. I wasn't sure how I would feel without them, so I didn't think he could really tell me ahead of time how he would feel either.
I know this. When I woke up in my room after surgery and finally looked down, I was pleasantly surprised to find two little mounds covered with my own skin and 2 little bandages across the middle of what certainly looked like breasts. I had a bilat Mx and a skin spaing Mx on the right (with just a small horizontal scar) and a skin and nipple sparing Mx on the lt with just a small semi-circular incision under the areola. It was amazing to me as well that they were able to remove all that breast tissue and insert TE's in such a small space.
Trust, Robin, that you will make the right decision for you. Every survivor that I met did not regret her decision. They were all comfortable with what they chose. Research all your options. I was not a candidate for a TRAM flap as the PS thought there was not enough extra tissue, and I personally didn't think I could handle the longer surgery, the TE's w/silicone implants was my decision. Even though I am going through a lot of discomfort right now, that won't last.
Here's a little chuckle for y'all: After my husband and my oldest son (34) left the hospital after the 2nd surgery, they went to get something to eat and then head home. When they arrived at the hospital the next morning I asked them where they went. Neither one wanted to answer, so I instinctively knew ... they went to Hooter's. I didn't tell you all before, but the night before my Mx my husband and I actually went to Hooter's for dinner. It might sound sick to some, but they actually do have the best wings in our little town. It will all be okay.
Marianne
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Robin - believe me, I can't imagine how they did it either. I think removing it wouldn't have been to bad, don't really have to be careful with what you are taking out. BUT, my PS put in all the new tissue and fat and that does matter how it goes. He had to be able to stitch the little vessels and such so that the flaps would live. After he had finished my right side, apparently, he didn't like the way the color looked. He was afraid I would have a problem with that one, so he went back in, got a vessel from who knows where and went into that little hole and added another vessel to the mix. Every time I look at my breasts in the mirror, I am stunned that they can do such a thing. I live in Columbus OH. I was in the care of some of the best doctors at the James Cancer Center with Ohio State University. People travel from everywhere to get treated here, so I was very fortunate to have them right here. I don't think I would/could have traveled to get this done. One more thing......and I have hesitated about putting this in here, I have typed it and erased it many times......I feel the survivor's guilt so strongly some times.........but, here goes, I have almost complete feeling in my boobs and arms and armpit (even SNB side). I have only a small area on my rt breast, from the 4oclock to 7oclock postiion that is numb. When I realized this in the hospital, I thought I was crazy. I waited until I was home and did some experiments with my husband...I nearly passed out...I can not believe it. I stand in front of the mirror before my shower (only time I am allowed to remove bra) and touch them and cry. Obviously the nipples are gone, but this sensation that is left feels like a gift handed to me. I don't know if it is a fluke, or if it is becasue my diep was immediate, or if it is just that my surgeons were superb.......
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Second post in a row...I had to hit post or I was afraid I would erase it again.
One 'funny' thing from my surgery....my PS told me that if they found anything in the SNB, he would abort the diep and put in TEs so that I could get whatever treatment would be needed, then we could go back in later to do my diep recon. In my mind, I knew that if all went well, surgery would be 14-16hrs. If something was found in SNB, surgery would be 4hrs or so. Anyhow, when I started to come to in recovery, I kept asking (mumbling really) to the nurse "what time is it" and she would just shush me and mumble whatever inane things they mumble to calm people. I asked over and over and finally she said, "Honey, it's 9:45 at night". I said "14 hours Awesome" and fell back to sleep. I'm sure she thought I was a loon, and I don't know how my brain even focused enough to figure the time frame, but I drifted back off and woke knowing that it had beeen a success and that I had "my" breasts.
It is strange to me. I have the same skin I have had on my breasts my whole life. Same birthmarks, freckles, etc. They do not feel fake at all to me. My nipples will be fake, but the breasts seem real.......just fixed.....don't know if that makes sense or not.
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You all give the best advise and encouragement! I read parts of each person's post and think, that happened to me or that sounds like something I would say
We have a good group here.
Lola, I have added you into my modified name list
I so understand the feeling naked in public. I have to laugh because no one that knew me before can keep eye contact with me because the double D's are obviously gone. Even my 11 year old neice. She kept saying "Aunt Lyn, you look SO different" while her eyes kept looking back down at my chest!
And Hooters, girl I have to tell on myself. The other day I said to my friend that has been taking me to doctor appointments "I will take you to lunch. How about Hooters ~ 'cause I don't have any!" She looked horrified for a moment before bursting out into laughter with me. Your poor husband and son!
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A sense of humor helps ... add me to the list of no recon. I prefer to refer to myself as Amazonian -- since they cut off one breast. Or, as my daughter and I sometimes refer to me, the Uniboober. I totally agree with feeling naked. Sometimes I just want to tell people for the shock value and other times I know people are staring -- mostly from people I know. THey are curious and not sure how to ask. It is sometimes fun to torture them a bit. I almost dread the warmer weather -- much harder to hide when you don't do layers or big jackets. And please don't feel survivor guilt -- you lost something that won't come back. The only opportunity you won't have is to lose your hair!
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Sally,
I am struck by the word "fake". I remember when I used to get my nails done. I have very long, slender fingers and people would always comment about how good my nails would look and they invariably would say, "Are they yours?". My answer was always, "Yes". I bought and paid for them. They were acrylic, and eventually I switched to silk wraps, but indeed they were mine. I'm sure the question was really intended to be, "are they real?" I can assure you my answer would have been the same. "Yes" They are real. They are REALly mine. I guess I feel the same way about my breasts. It is my skin and my muscle and underneath a whole bunch of silicone. But they are mine, really mine, and I had to go through a lot to get them, so just like my nails--they are mine and they are real.
Now I am not kidding myself. Having been a small, unnoticeable "b", I am sure I will end up at least a full B or better and they won't be the 62 year old, sagging ones they were, so people will notice. I can't wait until someone asks if they are real!
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Wow Ladies! I just got caught up and I kept thinking, "Okay, I'm going to reply to this or that" but now I can't remember who or what I wanted to reply to. So, I'm just going to reply...
first of all, I love the hooters thing! I think I need to go to Hooters!!! I am still doing well, had a little mishap on the ice today on the way to my son's baby shower... I slipped and fell on my bum! It hurt, I'm not gonna lie, but I think I'm okay. I also started my period and have been having some killer cramps so not sure if my lower back hurts from the fall or the cramps, but it's okay. My younger son (5) has been a little sick and got worse today, had to take him to the walk in clinic. His asthma really kicked in and he had a fever of 104.3. He's better now, with lots of breathing treatments and lots of drugs (we feel like drug factory around here). Nothing like a child being sick to take your mind off yourself!
Talking about husbands and scars and numb areas... My husband and I both looked very closely at my incisions before we even left the hospital and he has been my only care giver helping with my showers and dressings and putting lotions on for me since the beginning. I've had him touch certain spots that I thought felt funny (kind of squishy). I even told him yesterday that I think it's cute how he pretends that the sight of me without a shirt on turns him on and he acted all offended and said that it does. Anyway, the other day after my shower he had me put my robe on backwards and we sat on the couch and he gave me a backrub. so, we're sitting there and for some reason I looked down and realized that my robe had fallen down and I was sitting there with my chest completely exposed and I didn't even realize it because they are numb still. We laughed so hard, I told him he'd have to keep an eye on me or I'd be flashing the world and not even notice it! Or someone could be feeling me up and I wouldn't even feel it! I guess if I really put too much thought into it, it could be sad, but I prefer to laugh about and be thankful that I'm alive. but I know that that is not always easy to do, but humor helps me get through a lot of things in life, so I have to laugh through this too.
My hope is that we can all find something to laugh about every day, and that we can all find whatever it is that is going to help us get through this and find peace with our decisions and what we have to go through. I also know a little bit about the suvivors guilt, but I also know that anyone that has to go through more wouldn't wish it on us or anyone else. We all have to do what we have to do. I know that there were people in my life that thought I had lost my mind when I chose to have a BMX instead of a lump with rads, but that is what I needed to do for my peace of mind and I have absolutely no regrets! I know that for me, there was never a question about the reconstruction, right from the beginning I knew that I would have some kind of reconstruction, only because I know that I am too vain not to. After more research I decided on the TE's with implants. I know that I am going through more pain now but for me, it is worth it for what I'll get out of it in the end. And I love what someone (can't find the post now to remember who) said about their fake fingernails and fake boobs! I love that! Of couse these are my boobs! I paid for them with blood, pain and yes some co-pays so they will absolutely be mine! Thank you for sharing that with us!
Bless & Release!
Paula
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Okay, I'm stupid, it was the last post before mine, I looked further up! thanks for the story Marianne!
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Paula - I find myself sitting sometimes and kind of massaging my breasts. I don't even realize I am doing it (I think comforting myself that they are still there). Anyway, I told my husband, he will have to keep an eye on me or I will end up getting kicked out of our girls' basketball games for improper conduct.
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Hi Girls! Hope everyone is feeling okay. Got to go to the movies tonight with my husband. While we in the movies he asked me if I thought that i was the only one in the movies that had drains. I just looked at him and started to laugh. I'm glad he is there for me being very supportive. I know that it does not bother him how my breast looks and I am very lucky for that.
Debbie - I hope you did well tonight going out with other people. Hey we have been through alot and we did what we had to do to be healthy for ourselves and our families. We shouldn't care about what other people think about us or our breast....
Robin- anytime you feel that you need to vent ...Just Vent!!!!! We are all in this together. we will have good days and bad days. but we are there for you... Always!
Everyone be happy and keep smiling! Courage and Strength
Love the way everyone has a name now . Thanks for doing that. We have each other. Tomorrow a beg football day in my house. Going to take my benadryl so I can get at least 3 hours sleep.
Be well,
Donna
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My husband sent out emails to a group of my closest friends and our families all through my 14 hours of surgery and my recovery in the hospital. Today he was going to send his final installment, with my path results and such. He was asking me if I had anything I wanted to add. My 13 year old daughter said "tell them she is normal again, she just needs to nap a little...then after a pause...Oh yeah, and she has a drain coming out of her belly" How soon these things become common place.
When I first came home with my 3 drains, my kids wanted quick peeks, but would flee the room when we emptied and stripped them. Now they sit and carry on conversations and even hold the bulb or cup while my mom and I are tending the drains.
Super Bowl is always big for us as we are HUGE football fans. Unfortunately our Steelers are not in it this year, but we will be watching and rooting for the Saints.
Have a good night ladies.
Strength and Courage !
Never Surrender !
Sally
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I'm not a January surgery (at least not THIS January -- I'm nine years out, and cheering for all of you!), but I wanted to pop in for a moment to offer you (Kat especially) the guidelines for air travel from the National Lymphedema Network. There're here:
On the right hand side of that page, under "NLN Position Papers," click on "Air Travel." You may also be interested in their guidelines on Exercise and Risk Reduction, so click on those as well.
Another site with lymphedema risk reduction guidelines, this one specifically for post-breast cancer, is here:
http://www.stepup-speakout.org/riskreduction_for_lymphedema.htm
You'll find other information there about lymphedema too. I know it's scary to consider, but knowledge is power!
Best bet for reducing your risk is to get a referral to a well-qualified lymphedema therapist for baseline arm measurements, instruction in a gentle prophylactic lymph massage, personalized tips, and fitting for a compression sleeve and glove to wear when exercising or traveling. Here's a page about finding a well-trained one near you:
http://www.stepup-speakout.org/Finding_a_Qualified_Lymphedema_Therapist.htm
While it's true that more nodes removed means a somewhat higher risk of developing lymphedema, all of us who have been treated for breast cancer are at risk. Even a prophylactic mastectomy carries some risk. We don't need to live in fear of it if we're prepared with the information we need. You're all also welcome to stop by the "Lymphedema After Treatment" board here if you have questions -- lots of "swell" gals there who are happy to answer questions and offer encouragement.
Be well!
Binney -
Thank you Binney {{hugs}} You are welcome to stick around and hang out with us.
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