2010 Running Thread
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Thanks LoriL - hope I manage to do as much as you during Rads, thats a very impressive amount of cycling!! I like your Princess story too!
Surpirsed, I agree with LoriL too, oncology treatment is fairly standardised and is based on your stage and ER/PR/Her2 status. I had 4 cycles of TC (finished 30th Dec!) and just started Femara 3 days ago (will be changing to tamoxifen when/if period returns). You should definitely have an input into the plan.
Ran 5 miles today in the rain.... am off on holidays (A post chemo/surgery and pre-rads break) to Morocco on Sat. I hear there is a 6km beach so will be packing my running shoes for lots of early morning runs!!
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Treadsoftly: Have a wonderful vacation, I am so jealous!
I went running yesterday and couldn't stop smiling
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I don't know if anyone has tried physio with a mastectomy specialist, but I can tell you it made a world of difference. She massaged the entire area, moving things around, and while it was a bit uncomfortable at first, it really helped loosen things up. I also purchased as posture brace for my already poor posture which was getting worse.
Have a great day everyone!
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treadsoftly,
I SO do NOT belong on this thread! I do NOT run in the rain!! and I can't run 4 miles or 5 miles...
Harley
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Harley44........we might not be up to 4 miles (right now I can not even run 1 without having to walk)....but someday we will get there (I hope).
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Hello Sunshine!
Harley
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I started my running class (no boundaries 5K training program) on Saturday. What a surprise....I was able to run a mile without stopping....and I was not the last one across the finish line (I had two people behind me).
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Way to go, Sunshine! See, just a few days ago you didn't think you could run a mile without stopping.
I managed another 12 miler on Sunday; I should really have run longer to get ready for that 30K, but it was just plain too cold. Bundling up like the Michelin Man didn't make running any easier. I ran the first mile super easy, felt great for miles 2-9, started to feel a little weary in mile 10, and then . . . WHOA! Who flooded the streets with invisible molasses?? That's what it felt like, anyhow, as I struggled to pick up my feet.
But today, I went out in the evening just as the sun was setting and felt terrific.
Linda
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Lewing- what a dose of inspiration. I am on week 3 of training with the couch 2 5 k program off coolrunning.com I wanted to be further ahead but my biopsy and resulting hematoma side tracked me a bit then the whammy of my DX. DCIS and invasive tubular carcinoma. It took me a few weeks to regroup and get focused. So I won't run the local 5k for our Police Dept. (DH is on the force) which I really wanted this year for the first time. Can't because my surgery for dmx gets in the way but I have 6 weeks to get into the best shape and run 5k on my own before the surgery. Wish me luck and keep posting to inspire the newbies! Take care!
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lewing- I know what you mean about the "molasses on the streets"- some days are just like that, aren't they? On Sat. we had the visible type, not invisible, though. Argh! I went for an 8 mile run Saturday evening, of which about 4 miles of that was running through 4 inches of fresh slushy snow. It was like running through deep sand. Yikes! I didn't realize how tiring that was until I got home and was completely exhausted. I had also lifted weights and gone to a yoga class earlier in the day, so that could have been part of my problem, tool :-( But, the next day I was still so tired and sore. One thing that I have noticed since my whole cancer diagnosis and treatment is that if I don't get enough sleep, my training really suffers. Before, I could get by with 6 hours/night and still feel pretty good and train hard. But, now, if I skimp on my sleep I feel like I did on Sunday. Pretty crappy. Maybe it's partly from the tamoxifen, too? I'm on a higher dose (40mg) than most people, so I guess it stands to reason that I may have more side effects from it.
Anyway, I guess I'm just rambling on. :-) Trying to muster up a little energy to hit the gym on my way home from work shortly.....
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Way 2 go, Sunshine!! I am running 2 miles, around my neighborhood, but I do sometimes have to stop and walk. I'm getting there...
Harley -
Way to go Harley....my thought is....at least "we" are out there.
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I am so glad that you all are out there! Believe me when I say that I think of you all at times during my runs and it motivates me to know there are so many strong ladies out there that are true survivors and appreciators of life - it makes me want to be stronger and fight harder - thanks for that!
I may be crazy but I was out on Active.com looking for my next challenge last night and ended up signing me and hubby up for three races - the crazy part - they are back to back to back weekends - a 5k, a 10k then a 5k. I've never tried that before but I actually think it should be fine as I am not a speedster and not looking for any medals...and I have got until April/May to keep getting stronger.
Run strong ladies!
Julie
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Julie, you go, girl!
To Harley, Sunshine and other running "newbies"..... woo hoo!!! I LOVE seeing people getting bit by the "running bug"! Keep it up and don't get discouraged if you can't run as far as you would like to right now. Just a few short years ago I was so overweight and out of shape that I honestly could not even run 1 block. Persistence and an "I CAN do this" attitude is the key. Which is another reason why I like running so much- it is a metaphor for life in so many ways. Set some goals, make a plan, don't ever give up.... hmmm..... sounds like the same things needed to overcome cancer, don't you think?
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LoriL,
I totally agree....
One of the best things about running are the tangible results you can see building over time (and measure if you want to) if you just keep getting out there and plugging away....5 years ago, I was also not in the best of shape - poor heath choices on my part and slacking off on exercise for years while I had kids, worked too much, etc... then I made some changes, started running, and a mile was a tremendous challenge, then eventually an accomplishment, and, if you enjoy it, it keeps going from there - it doesn't have to mean major advances in distance or speed, maybe it's just feeling more comfortable running that mile or two. It's all good, as long as we are out there trying...
Julie
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I agree... it's good, as long as we are out there, trying. I am not a runner, but I walk faster than I run. I have found it still seems to take longer to finish my planned route, if I walk fast, so that is what started me running. I didn't really like running, but if it will help me to keep in shape, then I will try to keep at it.
Heart disease runs in my family, which is why I want to do cardio exercise. BC didn't run in my family, but I got it anyway... and exercise is something I can do to try to prevent a recurrence, so this is my motivation.
Everyone have a great weekend!
Harley
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Hope everyone has a great weekend.
Thanks to all for your posts (and support).....they are a great inspiration.
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Hi, all . . . just a quick check-in. Work and travel and snow forced me to tinker with my training schedule for the 30K that's coming up in (gulp) a little over a month, so today was my first really LOOONNNNNG run: just under two and a half hours, calling it 15 miles. At the end, just about everything hurt a little, but nothing hurt a lot, so that's good.
You all are so right about the lessons running offers for the rest of life. I think that running helped me a lot during chemo . . . not just the mental boost I got from jogging (or walk-jogging), but also the knowledge that you can get through stuff you never thought you could get through. (If that makes sense.) Even the rhythm of chemo - multiple treatments, each followed by a recovery period - reminded me of running hard repeats.
Linda
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lewing, was wondering how long it took for you to get long miles out after chemo?
I can eek out 7 miles but much slower than my pre chemo pace. I get frustrated that I will never run like I used to. Maybe I won't but I am glad I can still run at all. I did 5 months of A/C -T. I want to run another marathon but my miles and pace are coming slowly. I am 6 months out and feel great but running is still hard...
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Hi, gd4thesoul. Your question led me to check my log, and I was surprised to see how quickly I ramped the mileage back up after chemo. I had my last Taxotere in August 2008, and by the end of September I was doing 40 mile weeks, including a 10-mile long run. (40-50 mpw was typical pre-cancer mileage for me when I wasn't training for a marathon.) BUT BUT BUT - by the beginning of December, I was injured (Achilles) and I've been riding the injury merry-go-round ever since. I'd like to think I'm off it by now, but I'm taking nothing for granted.
It's been easier for me to bring up my mileage (currently back at ~40 mpw) than to bring down my pace. I'm trying hard not to worry about the latter, but it's a bit discouraging - I totally identify with your frustration. Running a couple of miles at what used to be easy-run pace leaves me feeling as beat up as a 12x400 track session used to. I'm actually slower now than I was closer to treatment. (Of course, if I'd run slower then, I might have avoided injuries and be faster now.)
I have a 5K on Sunday - the race used to be a 4 miler, but for whatever reason, they changed the distance this year. I would like my 5K finish time to be under my old 4-mile PR, but that's by no means assured.
Like you, I'm glad I can still run. It would be nice to be even a little fast again, but in the big scheme of things, I'll take the ability to jog any day.
Linda
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gd4thesoul......just keep running.
I was able to 2 miles without stopping to walk.....I might be the slowest one in my running class but all I want to do is get across the finish line without stopping when we do a 5K at the end of the class. I ran it in about 22+ minutes. The instructor said she was going to turn me into a runner by the time I finish this class.
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c130sunshine - way to go! It's great to follow your progress: first one mile without stopping (and I bet at the time, you were thinking you could NEVER run ANOTHER mile on top of that one), now two. Next up: a 5K.
Here's my own race report from today's 5K. It didn't start until noon, which was merciful, considering that we'd all had to set our clocks ahead last night. So I had plenty of time to drink coffee, eat Trader Joe brioche (breakfast of champions), look outside at the miserable, rainy weather, and ask myself why on earth I thought registering for this race was a good idea.
I was still asking myself that question - in an increasingly insistent tone - as I drove to the start.
Actually, I drove to a residential street almost a mile from the start. Since this race is the warm-up act for a big, rowdy St. Patrick's Day parade, parking is always at a premium. Plus, if you don't park strategically, you risk getting trapped until the parade is over.
Jogging to the race start to get my bib and shoe tag, then jogging back to the car to doff my jacket and track pants, then jogging back to the start - about 2.5 miles in all - was my warm-up. I got back just in time for the pre-race costume-judging contest (lots of leprechauns) and lined up in the starting area, hoping the crowd would keep me warm. (It was in the mid-40s, I'd guess, with a chilly drizzle.) Once upon a time I would have lined up proudly and confidently and a little arrogantly in the first few rows. This time, I started a ways back, trying to gage the likely speed of the people around me. I wound up next to a father-son duo who looked intimidatingly lean and fast. Should I move farther back? But then again, the woman next to me was wearing earphones, and the chunky guy in front of me was wearing mardi gras beads. And on the other side of the fast-looking father and son was a guy wearing a wolf mask. And well ahead of us was a guy in a chicken hat.
So, I stayed put. And tried to work myself into a racing (as opposed to, "oh, I'm just running the course for the fun of it") frame of mind.
The gun goes off, and - nothing. Then a shuffle. Then, slowly, we started to run. I spend the first mile wasting energy while weaving around other runners (including the chunky guy with the mardi gras beads). I finally move to the center of the street, where there's less congestion and I'm able to settle into a rhythm - until, whoah! A water station! Before we've even gone a mile! And right in the middle of the road! I'm trying to veer to the right to avoid the volunteers with their outstretched arms, while other runners are trying to veer to the left, to grab water.
Collisions averted, I make it to the 1 mile mark in 7:36.
The second mile, I'm actually racing, as in: really concentrating on my pace while picking off runners ahead of me (as opposed to simply dodging runners who started way closer to the front than they should have). There's a 180 degree turn, which slows things down a little, but I'm feeling good as I start the "back" portion of the out and back course.
Mile 2 is 7:32.
In mile 3, I start to fall apart mentally. I tell myself to hang in there. I tell myself, there's never been a race where you didn't want to give up and start walking at some point - you just have to get past it. Focus on your form. Keep going.
Yeah, right. My legs are leaden. My stride feels clumsy, uncoordinated. Other women are passing me, and I'm letting them go. I'm looking ahead at the hulking ruin of the Michigan Central train station (the race starts and ends in front of it), and it seems painfully distant. I give myself permission to slow down.
Then, suddenly, I'm hearing race volunteers calling out "Men to the left! Women to the right!" and I realize, holy cow, this is it. An angled turn, and I can see the finish. I pick it up - the faster I go, the sooner this'll be over - and hear the announcer calling my name.
Watch time: 23:27. That beat my easy goal of 24:34 (my PR from when the race was billed as a 4 miler, though the year I ran that time, it was clearly short of 4 miles). It also beat my most recent post-cancer 5K time, from last September, of 23:48. So, I'm reasonably happy.
I'm also reasonably confident that I beat the guy in the chicken hat.
Linda
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lewing....way to go. That is my main problem....I tend to talk myself out....I know it is a mental thing. All I can say is thank goodness for my IPOD. Tonight they have increased the running to 2.25 miles. I know it is only 1/4 mile more distance but I am already nervous to see if I can run the entire way without stopping.
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Sunshine, I'm betting you made it through 2.25 miles with no problems. In my experience, it's that first mile that's the hardest.
Linda
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lewing....thanks for the encouragement!
YEAH!!! I was able to run the full time....barley.......Carol (the instructor of the class) keeps telling me that she is going to turn me into a runner if it is the last thing she does.
Saturday is another increase....but a big one. It will be 2.75 miles. Carol is great!!!! She pushes me but not too much. I just have to get into the mind set that I can do it
Harley44....how are you doing?
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Lewing - loved the race report - thanks for sharing. Reminded me of the Thanksgiving Day road race I've done a couple times. So there was a water station before the first mile mark - in the middle of the road?! Too funny. I wouldn't even think there would be a need for a water station in the middle of a 5K.
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Chris, that was my reaction to the water station, too. It's a big event with a lot of walkers, so I understand why they'd want water on the course (esp. if it had turned out to be a warm day, instead of 40 degrees and drizzly). But not at 0.75 miles! That's too soon for anyone to need it on the way out, and too late to do anyone any good on the way back.
(The female master's winner - running 21:xx - is also a breast cancer survivor. So I have my work cut out for me if I'm ever going to be top survivor at our local race for the cure!)
Linda
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Hi girls,
Linda,enjoyed your race report too, the water station at 0.75miles is just ridiculous! And the winners time will just make you more ambitious - a little healthy competition never hurt anyone!
C130sunshine, keep up the good work, thats the way I got fit too - slow and steady progress and you will soon see the rewards and feel really strong and healthy too!
Running going fairly well, am in the middle of rads (12/33) so finding it hard to make time in the day to go for a run. Rads is at lunchtime, and a 30 minute drive each way, so takes a good chunk of time out of the day. A little more fatigued than normal too, which is to be expected, I suppose! Still managing 15-20miles/week which isn't too bad, i suppose..... have a half marathon coming up on april 11th though!
Chat soon!
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Threadsoftly - thanks for the encouraging words. WOW....your rads really take up a lot of your day (with all the driving). Don't discouraged....just keep running. Good luck in the half marathon....as my running instructor says..."don't worry about the time, all you have to do is get across the finish line".
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Just joined bc.org this week, so just scanning all the discussion boards, and came across this one.
I don't really consider myself a runner (volleyball player at heart), however, at age 45, I took up running in December. Working full time and being a mom has limited my favorite options for cardio workouts, so now I run a few days a week at lunch time. I actually wouldn't call myself a runner, more like a jogger LOL!
My friend told me about a running plan called "From Couch Potato to 5k", on the Cool Running web site. It really worked as now I have run two 5k's in the last two months. Don't really have any ambition to run farther than that. Just getting in that extra 1/2 hour of cardio a few days a week is helpful. It has also really helped build my endurance back up that I lost while on chemo.
2bsnapod
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2bsnapod - Welcome........I don't call my self a runner either. I am just trying to get into shape and lose weight. I am taking the class (from Couch to 5K). We are about half way through. I am getting excited about the 5K at the end of the class. This morning we did 2.75 miles.....I was surprised that I was able to run the entire length without stopping......well maybe not running but a "fast" jog.
The weather this morning was great! Hope everyone is finally thawing out.
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