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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2010

    Deb- I'm nowhere near done. I startes back in December with rads but developed a seroma. They stops rads because I have a open wound from the seroma. I'll probably start all my rads in February.. all 35 of them. I have developed a deep depression over all of this. I can't wait until it is behind me. I am on antidepressants and my doctor is aware of this funk. He thinks I should cry it out to help me get out of the grief of the cancer diagnosis. I haven't allowed myself to cry or mourn this new chapter of my life until recently. I hate it!

  • weety
    weety Member Posts: 1,163
    edited February 2010

    Sophie, I'm curious as to why you had rads with DCIS.  I'm still not sure if the reason why I ended up with rads is because of my small margins for IDC (1mm and 3mm) or if the main reason was because the DCIS did NOT clear the margins.  I think the decision was based a little bit from both reasons, but I'm thinking it might have been more the DCIS because the radiation I'm getting is to the chest wall (where the DCIS was present) and I get the wedge which I was told makes the beam more uniform over the total area.  I'm also not scheduled to get any boosts, which is what I would assume would happen if they were mainly treating the IDC area.  Hmmmm.... I just wonder about all this. 

    Jenn3, your description of the bolus sounds different than mine.  Mine is like a rubber mat they place directly on top of my chest during the radiation.  Perhaps you're getting something entirely different??!!

  • cookiegal
    cookiegal Member Posts: 3,296
    edited February 2010

    Well dawgs...I am done...can you believe it???

    My skin se's are not to bad...though big red is back...and redder than ever. No open sores or peeling.

    I had no fatigue until 1/23....and now I am zonked!!!!!

    But shout out to the radiant 1/10 atomic dawgs!!!!!

    Hang in there, we will all be done before spring comes, in the northeast at least!!!!!!!

    Woof!

  • DebbieSawyer
    DebbieSawyer Member Posts: 133
    edited February 2010

    veggy--I'm a dork, you did tell me that. I didn't go back and re-read posts. My apologies for forgetting! Is your seroma wound nearly healed? So you don't have a definite start date for rads? I am so sorry you're having depression about this (although completely understandable). I haven't words of advice to offer you, but do give you my full encouragement and support. Cry when you feel you can, just let it out. Or scream and yell at cancer!!!  Have you been on the antidepressants long enough for you to feel a difference? Is there a bc support group at your treatment center where you could voice your concerns and frustrations? 

    PM me if you would like to vent.  Hugs (((veggy))).

    Deb

  • mom2acat
    mom2acat Member Posts: 556
    edited February 2010

    Somehow I miscounted; I have just 4 more treatments left.

    Because of the heartburn issues, my rads onc. is giving me Friday off again, so my last day will be Tuesday instead of Monday.

  • DebbieSawyer
    DebbieSawyer Member Posts: 133
    edited February 2010
    SmileyWay to go cookie!!! (but do try to keep Big Red under control, would ya?!)
  • DebbieSawyer
    DebbieSawyer Member Posts: 133
    edited February 2010

    mom2acat: Four is a much better number than seven! Enjoy the Friday off, and know this time next week, you'll be done with rads, finished, over and out! And hopefully the heartburn will become a thing of the past.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2010
    Deb - The incision for the seroma is just about closed up. In fact we can't get any gauze in the hole. I called the cancer center and right now they do not have a support group during the winter months. That's stupid! You'd think in the winter, depression is at its worst and that's when you need the support. They start up again in April. I hung up. I have been on antidepressants for years and years. I felt like I couldn't cry on them. Now I'm crying all of the time. When I am around friends I act happy. I don't want to scare them away. Sometimes when I am in the car driving I let out a top of your voice, from the deepest part of the belly scream.Friday I go see the surgeon and radiologist. Hopefully (maybe) they will give me the date when I start - again.
  • victoriasecret
    victoriasecret Member Posts: 333
    edited February 2010

    Hi girls !!

    Back again..today went ...the same..I count the zaps..with Bolus on I think 4...then they come in and take it off and zap again..My techs all have FREEZING hands they always apoligize but brrrr...

    I had a new "crew" today and asked them to turn the lights off I just find it more relaxing and all the other techs have asked...welll any way she says would you like the music turned down but very sarcastic...I killed her with kindness..but did ask if there was any Micheal Buble ...he he

    Chest is VERRRY  red but no sign of opening I have ..7 more..to go !!!

     much love

    Cheryl

  • one-L
    one-L Member Posts: 1,110
    edited February 2010

    veggy, when I was first diagnosed, I cried at the oddest times.  Driving down the road, talking to someone, in the shower, at the drop of a hat.  However, I have gotten over that and have moved on.  We all have to deal with this in our own way and when it is time for you to cry you will.  Maybe never, but you will get through this.  I am sorry you are having such a tough time.

    Cheryl, there is no reason for the techs to be rude.  You didn't ask for this and they are there to treat you and they should be comforting.  My techs are the best, they have fussed at me for moving around, but we have talked it out and found out why I was moving.  I just needed to relax and it is not easy those first treatments.  Only 7 to go, it will be over soon.

    mom2acat, wooohooo for you to be finished next week.  I have suffered from acid reflux for years and I know how uncomfortable it is.  Maybe you will get some relief soon.

    cookiegal, a really big WOOOHOOO for you.  Glad you are finished.

    Good evening to Deb, Onty and weety.  Hope everything is going well for all of you.

    Onty, I did ask today how many boosts I will have and he said, 26 regular with 7 boosts.  I am sooo ready for this to be over.,

    Juannelle

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited February 2010

    Today was tx #6 - I'm already turning pink and feeling a little tender - no pain or discomfort, but when I wear the seatbelt in the car and when the techs were dotting me up - I was somewhat tender.  They also noticed I am turning pinkish and suggested using the lotion and aloe as much as possible, going w/o tops around the house if I can, etc.  Said that later if needed the nurse will give me something else for the burn........  I guess they're anticipating a bad burn with the way they were talking - UGH!!!  Oh well........ each day that I go I'm one step closer to being done!

    Weety - I do get the bolus just like you and the wedge already this other piece is new........ I asked the tech twice what the extra piece they were adding was, they told me twice and I've already forgotton.  It slides onto the machine much like the wedge, but brings the beams closer in (almost touches me) they said it gets the radiation closer to the skin around the mammory glands????  I'll ask again and try to remember.   Sorry I can't remember - even tried looking it up, but without the right name I can't find it.

    Cheryl - sorry you had a rude tech - I'm like you kill 'em with kindness!!!! 

    Hope everyone has a great day!!!

  • cookiegal
    cookiegal Member Posts: 3,296
    edited February 2010

    I blogged about cancer-zilla.

    http://bit.ly/cancerzilla 

    I may take this down, since I worry about breaking bco rules. But I had to share it with y'all.

  • unklezwifeonty
    unklezwifeonty Member Posts: 1,710
    edited February 2010

    Deb,

    On the first "planning" day they did CT Scans, mapping and tattoing. On the second "planning" day, today, they did X-rays, positioning, some more sharpie marks and simulation on the table. I start actual rads tomorrow.

  • catwrangler
    catwrangler Member Posts: 23
    edited February 2010

    Congrats on finishing Cookie!

     I still have 1 regular treatment and 8 boosts to go, and I am very red, very brown, and peeling. I'm very excited about finishing up the large fields tomorrow; I'm hoping that the peeling will start getting better once it's not being treated everyday.  I know that it takes a week or so for things to peak, but I'm hoping it doesn't get too much worse.  When I saw the dr this week, he said all the dark brown suntaned areas would peel, which I am not looking forward to. At least nothing really hurts right now, and they gave me the silverdine cream to put on the peeling parts. So I'm slathering it on a couple of times a day, along with the aloe and aquaphor.  I'm surprised I don't slideout of bed.

  • one-L
    one-L Member Posts: 1,110
    edited February 2010

    cookie, I am so glad you are through so you don't have to put up with Cancer-zilla any more.  The cancer center where I go is so quiet that I never see anyone else who is there to do treatment.  It was almost the same way when I did chemo.  They had so many chairs that you never sat my anyone.  I am certainly glad that I didn't meet up with a Cancer-zilla like you.  I will let you have that experience all by yourself.

    Onty, are you ready to start the journey?  It will be over before you know it.  At least that is what I keep telling myself.  Each day I go for rads is one less tx that I have to do.  Just think, you will be finished before me, that is just not fair. lol

    Juannelle

  • Juli-CA
    Juli-CA Member Posts: 36
    edited February 2010

    Today I had 14 of 16 (Canadian Fraction) to the whole breast.  Then on Thursday I start the first of 5 boosts to just the cavity where the tumor was.  The rad. onc. explained that the boosts are delivered by electron energy which does not penetrate as deep as the whole breast treatments using photons. 

    I am only slightly pink but have an itching rash near the center of my chest.  I was told by the RN that was the hair follicles reacting to the radiation.  I have very fair skin so I am watching my skin closely for burns.  Maybe I will be ok since my treatments are few.

    The center where I go will be getting the Trilogy machine in a few months.  My rad. onc. said it will cut the treatment time for most breast cancer patients by 75%.  Wow, wouldn't that be great!

    Juli

  • unklezwifeonty
    unklezwifeonty Member Posts: 1,710
    edited February 2010

    One-L,

    I'm as ready as I will ever be...... just want to move on with the next phase of my life.

  • one-L
    one-L Member Posts: 1,110
    edited February 2010

    Onty,

    Know exactly what you mean.  Have a good evening and again good luck tomorrow.

  • kmf
    kmf Member Posts: 79
    edited February 2010

    DebbieSawyer:  The Silvedine cream is great!  Very cooling.  It is drying to the skin, so at night I put the petroleum infused gauze on, put on a mesh "tube top" the dr. gave me and try to sleep. I would say that approx. 1/4 of my skin has peeled off - and a bunch would peel if I put any pressure on it -- it just rolls off.  It isn't particularly painful underneath -- just feels a bit tender.  Hopefully w/ the discontinuation of the Bolus my skin will get a bit of a break.

    Had a bone density scan today to check for osteoporosis -- all the women in my family have it so it's just a matter of time, I just hope I'm not there yet.

     Congrats to you, Cookiegal for finishing!    Karenanne

  • sophie305
    sophie305 Member Posts: 37
    edited February 2010

    Good evening, came home from tx today and was exhausted beyond anything I've experienced since tx started...went straight to bed for 2 hours.  I can't believe it...was almost in tears today.  While I'm ever-appreciative of colleague support with my flexible schedule, I'm tired.  Tired of the doctor appts, scans, xrays, poking and prodding, SEs, driving in rush-hour traffic.  Tired of working nights/weekends to keep up.  Tired of tx, tired of worry, tired of BC, tired of being tired. !@#@!$  boohoo...sucks to be me.  okay, I'm done.

    Weety, you asked why rads with DCIS?  Oh trust me, my first reaction was to avoid it when I was first diagnosed, but my surgeon reminded me medical protocol for DCIS is lumpectomy and rads.  I was given option of mammosite rads too which would have been only 5 days of tx.  But the more I researched and talked with doctors, the more I was convinced that rads of whole breast was my best option.  Doctors agreed, since there were other DCIS cells besides the primary location and, despite large amount of tissue removed, one of the margins was only 1mm.  So best to zap all of it to make sure they all die, die, die...those evil demon cells. 

    Today the techs suggested I could finish on Friday...by getting 2 boosts in same day as long as they are six hours apart it's doable.  And, since I am taking the day off on Friday anyway due to midday appt with med onc, I could do the double tx thing.  But then again, I just can't.  No.  I can wait one more day.  Once a day is enough.  And that's a change for me...the one who wanted to charge through this whole thing.  I can wait.  What's another day......especially when it's the last one!  And who knows how red I'll be by then? 

    Friday I get the tamoxifen talk.  Whoopee....

  • AsiaYM
    AsiaYM Member Posts: 2,216
    edited February 2010

    Cookiegal, I am so happy for you! 

    I had my 2nd today, got a long way to go.

    Karen

  • precioustime
    precioustime Member Posts: 233
    edited February 2010

    2nd treatment down and 31 to go!  I am the last patient of the day-- every night at 6pm and both nights so far they have been running a little over 30 minutes behind!!!  I am finding to stay still in one place and arms above ahead (not having the range of motion like before since axilla dissection)- the most challenging....    I will be soooo glad when this is over.  I found out today that they will be using the bollus for every treatment.  The internal mammary nodes are being treated on both sides.  IS there anyone else that are getting their internal mammary nodes treated?  Does anyone know if RADS just targets tumor areas or if it ZAPS tumor and surrounding areas?

    Have a Good Night Ladies!

    Loretta

  • RedheadPam
    RedheadPam Member Posts: 98
    edited February 2010

    Today is tx 16 of 33 - almost halfway!  I am starting to notice a little bit of pink creeping in, especially around the nipple, but no swelling, no soreness yet.  So far the green tea spray and Triamcinolone cream seem to be working. I did have a dream the other night that my left boob swelled up to gigantic proportions....it was enormous!  Thankfully just a dream. I do have a head cold, so that is wearing me down, and making it a little harder to hold my breath throughout the 'zaps'...my rads onc has me take a big breath and hold it in for each, to help move the heart out of the way. The longest zap is 32 secs, which I have discovered is a darn long time to hold in a breath. Bonus is that today I have my annual pap smear...goodie!  Pap smear followed by rads... Best.Day.Ever!Undecided I will find something yummy for lunch to make up for it.

  • unklezwifeonty
    unklezwifeonty Member Posts: 1,710
    edited February 2010

    1 down 20 to go! It was far easier and quicker than simulation.

  • DebbieSawyer
    DebbieSawyer Member Posts: 133
    edited February 2010

    Hey gals; It's great to see so many postings, everyone sharing their experiences! It's been five days since my last rads, and not much change in my skin. No itching, no peeling, slight burning sensation, still light red in color. BUTTTT...the fatigue has hit. I thought it wasn't going to happen to me, I was tired once in a while, but no big deal. Last several days I feel like I have a bad hangover without the headache. Sleep 12 hours and wake up exhausted. Crap. I hope it doesn't last long, because I will go crazy feeling like this.

    I do want to say, so as not to scare those coming up....once I wake up, have coffee, move around, I am fine, a little slower but able to do chores, drive, etc. It's just after a couple hours of activity, I wear down. I've been fighting taking naps in the afternoon, but won't anymore: that may be why I sleep so many hours at night. Aargh. I am 56, so maybe it hits harder because I'm older...

    Yay, Onty, you are one less!

  • sophie305
    sophie305 Member Posts: 37
    edited February 2010

    Greetings all,

    Debbie, I'm feeling the fatigue as well.  My get-up-and-go and definitely got up and went.  It's such a strange feeling regardless of our age (I'm 5 years older than you).  This is definitely not normal for me, so I'll just keep putting one foot in front of the other and keep going.  Although I may whine just a bit more than normal.  Undecided

  • DebbieSawyer
    DebbieSawyer Member Posts: 133
    edited February 2010

    Hi sophie; I was just reading a new thread here on BCO about post chemo, post surgery, post radiation fatigue. Their comments are it can take MONTHS to a YEAR to get back to full energy. Double crap.

    Let's put our arms around each other: I'll hold you up, you hold me up, as we put one foot in front of the other! And whining allowed!

  • precioustime
    precioustime Member Posts: 233
    edited February 2010

    Good morning Ladies,

    Question to the ladies that are feeling fatigued?  Have you done Chemo?  Is this fatigue worse than Chemo fatigue?  I am 3 months post TAC Chemo and am just starting to feel my energy returning ---I am on #3 RADS today and not anticipating feeling fatigued like before.

    My BS and Oncologist were telling me that I have Chemo and Surgery out of the way and only RADS left which should be the easiest?!?! 

    Thanks,

    Loretta

  • DebbieSawyer
    DebbieSawyer Member Posts: 133
    edited February 2010

    Hi precioustime; I did not have chemo, so unfortunately can't answer your question. I'm sure someone here can. Or read the earlier rads threads (Oct, Nov, Dec) and see if they talk about chemo and rads fatigue.

    Deb

  • weety
    weety Member Posts: 1,163
    edited February 2010

    redheadpam,

    I wonder why some facilities tell you to hold your breath and others, like mine, told me to breathe normally and that breathing is accounted for in their measurements.  Do you know if everyone at your facility holds their breath, or is it because of your unique treatment or position of the heart.  Maybe you are just special?!?!

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