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  • DebbieSawyer
    DebbieSawyer Member Posts: 133
    edited January 2010

    Atomic Dog as our mascot! I LOVE IT!!! Where the heck do you come up with this stuff??

    And this developed just from Onty's "innocent" comment about prone being doggy style...

  • weety
    weety Member Posts: 1,163
    edited January 2010

    I'm just figuring out what the bolus is for  (I get it daily)  and kind of understanding.  But now I want to know what the wedge is for that they use on the machine for me.  Anyone know?  I guess I'm special that I get both daily.  Gee whiz.  I'm assuming that not everyone gets it because today right after they left the room to start the rads one of the techs came back in and said that they forgot to put the wedge in.  I guess I should be glad they realized they forgot it!  I just don't know what it's for.

  • elisheva
    elisheva Member Posts: 80
    edited January 2010

    Hi All,

     What's all this talk about red wine? Is it supposed to help us in any way? Please somebody explain! Thanks! Had #17 today, still very little discoloring. I love all of your messages. Hugs,  elisheva.

  • one-L
    one-L Member Posts: 1,110
    edited January 2010

    I have a big problem relaxing as they are setting me up.  They get me in position and then when they leave the room, I move a little and get out of position.  The techs really worked with me today go get me relaxed before they left, but didn't do much good.  After the tx, they came back and said let's talk about what we can do to keep me from moving.  I don't even realize that I am moving.  I think it is my left arm, I don't have anything to do with it and I stick it in my pants to try and keep it from moving.  Tomorrow they will put a block under my left elbow, so we will see if that works.

    I did go see the Med Onc today and everything is good or getting there.  My RBC is still down, but she said she didn't want to give me anything yet.  She thinks it will come up on its own.  She gave me some more Lasix and I am to take it everyday until I get the swelling down.  Then take as needed.  She said it is a SE of chemo and it may take awhile for it to go away.   The gift that keeps on giving. 

    She wants to see me in a month and then we will talk about the AI that I will take.  Boy am I excited.

    Cookiegal, you are a stitch.  I love the Atomic Dog.  We are members of the Atomic Dog Pound.

    I am so jealous of all of you that are finishing up, but I am so happy for all of you. 

    Hope all goes well for those that are just about to start, good luck, maybe with the advice of all the veterans, we wont have such a hard journey.

    One more day and then we can all rest up over the weekend.

    Juannelle

  • DebbieSawyer
    DebbieSawyer Member Posts: 133
    edited January 2010

    weety--You are special! As I have no idea about the wedge or bolus, I didn't have either (except a wedge under my knees for support). Where do they put the wedge? Ya probably outta ask the techs what they're doing and why. What treatment number are you up to?

    elisheva--there was a study done about the benefit of red wine during rads. I'll see if I can find the link again, or maybe someone has it handy? Congrats on #17!

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited January 2010

    I haven't checked in for a while - sorry - started back at work and finding that at the end of the day I forget to check the boards. 

    I have the pad too - it is a bolus treatment.  In my case I was told it was because my breast tissue was removed and it brings the rads closer to the skin.  I finally remembered to ask how many treatments I was having and will have 28 treatments with 5 boost (around the scar). 

    Trying to catch up and read, but skimming through I saw that someone asked if having the port removed hurt.  Not at all - and I have to say I've had one SE or reaction after another since all of this started 6 months ago and it was the easiest thing I've done.  There was some discomfort the next day, but nothing that I couldn't handle and today it's fine.

  • DebbieSawyer
    DebbieSawyer Member Posts: 133
    edited January 2010

    Here ya go elisheva. If the link doesn't work, let me know and I'll copy/paste the article and post it here.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32648681/ns/health-cancer

  • elisheva
    elisheva Member Posts: 80
    edited January 2010

    Thanks Debbie, but here is some contradicting information in a study that I just now read on this very site. Here is the link: http://www.breastcancer.org/risk/new_research/20091210b.jsp   The title of the article is Moderate Drinking Boosts Breast Cancer Recurrence. Interesting world we live in!

    Talking about studies, I am making an experiment on myself right now. I've read somewhere that eating prunes every day can help prevent osteoporosis. I have been taking Fosamax for several years until my doctor suggested that I take a break, because long term use makes the bones brittle (denser but brittle), so now I'm taking more calcium and vitamin D and also eat stewed prunes every day. Waiting for my nexr bone density test to see if that works! That shows you how we believe in everything we read. Probably a mistake. Elisheva.

  • sophie305
    sophie305 Member Posts: 37
    edited January 2010

    Weety, my tx include a time with a wedge also.  When I met with the dosimatrist earlier this week, she said the wedge is used to aim the rad beam a certain way for a portion of the daily tx....all part of the planning that was done when I had that first session.  Maybe you could ask the techs to set up a session for you to meet with the dosimatrist who created your treatment plan....I found it informative and interesting even though I am totally non-scientific by nature.  She showed me 3D images of my breast, the breakdown of daily doses, % values effecting the different areas of the breast, etc. 

    Cookiegal, GREAT mascot!!  I love it!  You are amazing!

    Sleep tight dear ladies....

  • unklezwifeonty
    unklezwifeonty Member Posts: 1,710
    edited January 2010

    Love love love the mascot Cookie!!!



    Can we get another dog lying on its belly? ;-)



  • cookiegal
    cookiegal Member Posts: 3,296
    edited January 2010
  • unklezwifeonty
    unklezwifeonty Member Posts: 1,710
    edited January 2010

    ROTFL. Please, can I have the dog (or bitch) lying on her belly?

  • one-L
    one-L Member Posts: 1,110
    edited January 2010

    I am taking my Lasix this morning and going, going, going about every 10 minutes.  I know TMI.  But sometimes you just have to share.

    Today is #8 and so far I am not red or anything.  Guess that will happen next week.

    Have a good day everyone, just knowing that I have two days off after today is a great feeling.

    Juannelle

  • kmf
    kmf Member Posts: 79
    edited January 2010

    Cookiegal:  Love the doggy mascot and the doggy pics!  I have 2 std. poodles and would love to know where you found the pic of the poodles singing.  I have friends w/poodles and could have some fun w/that.

    I have 11 to go out of 33.  I was relieved to find out that the underarm burn will be out of the field w/the boost -- they will just concentrate the beams on the tumor -- so then my nipple will get roasted instead!  Oh well.  But, during the last week of the boosts, she said my underarm will start healing.  Thank goodness for Silvedine Cream!  It is wonderfully helpful.

    She asked me if I needed some pain meds -- I don't yet.  I have some left over hydrocodone -- she said it would be ok to take it at night if I need it to sleep.  I can see that maybe happening.  Hopefully the weekend break will allow for some recovery!  Have a great weekend everyone.  Karenanne

  • catwrangler
    catwrangler Member Posts: 23
    edited January 2010

    Debbie, I am annoyed with the peeling, but it isn't painful as long as I keep it covered with some ointment; it's only when something directly touches the new skin that I get a little ouch.  So I whine a bit, but it's really no big deal.  I only have 4 regular treatments left before starting the boosts, so hopefully it won't get too much worse in the next couple of weeks. Congrats on being done!

     Cookie, love the atomic dogs!  That's hysterical.

     At the rads center I go to, there's been quite a group of us that sit around chatting while we wait for our turn at the machine, and today is the last day for a couple of people. Even though it's not my last day, I'm really excited; it's light at the end of the tunnel to me.  I hope everyone else is doing okay and that things aren't too terrible for you.  Not that much longer for anyone, I hope.

  • weety
    weety Member Posts: 1,163
    edited January 2010

    THanks sophie for the info about the wedge and suggestion to talk them about my treatment plan.  I am scientifically minded, so that's probably what bugs me so much about not knowing what's going on!  I have the wedge the whole time.  It's a metal piece that they put into the machine over the glass window.  Maybe I'll ask more about it today when I go.  I don't think they like people like me (questioners, or as I like to say, INQUISITIVE which sounds a little nicer, don't you think?) because we take up their time.  I know they jsut like to get everyone in and out as quickly as possible.

  • DaylilyFan
    DaylilyFan Member Posts: 80
    edited January 2010

    Boost mapping was done today (13 down, 8 to go) and if my chest didn't already resemble a buried treasure map, it does now!  One of the techs explained that the boost treatment is a different kind of radiation--electrons instead of protons--because this treatment is more on the surface and electron beams are better for that (heaven knows why).  The beam has to cover all of the scar to make sure any microscopic cancer cells that might have attached to the incision site when the tumor was removed are killed.  If anyone can elaborate on this, please do!

    Re heartburn symptoms some of you reported, I think my GERD has been acting up a little, too, but I think it could just be a response to the stress.  A few day ago I started taking my medication before I go to bed instead of when I get up--not much difference so far.

    Love the atomic dog!!!! 

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited January 2010

    I have the wedge too!  I asked the nurse about it yesterday, but she used a different name so it didn't click.  From what I understand it does direct the beam in a certain direction. From what I understand in my case it's directing it so that as little as possible hits my heart and lungs.  And.... the area the does hit the heart and lungs only get 50% of the dose prescribed.  I had a lot of questions yesterday for the rad onc and literally sat there and flipped the pages in his binder asking about each one.  So far, the nurses and the rad onc have been great in answering all of my questions and not making me feel rushed when I ask.  It seems I have a new question everytime I get in there.

    Daylily - my onc also explained the boost in the same way yours did.

  • cookiegal
    cookiegal Member Posts: 3,296
    edited January 2010

    good tip today, if you have any aquphor on you while you have rads the red is worse!

    2 left dawgs!

  • victoriasecret
    victoriasecret Member Posts: 333
    edited January 2010

    Hi Girls ,

    Well rads cancelled today for maitenance....starting to see the outline of radiation ,getting itchy,and reddish..thats all to report ..back in on Monday.

    ml C

  • DebbieSawyer
    DebbieSawyer Member Posts: 133
    edited January 2010

    Hello my Atomic Dogs!!! (thank you Cookiegal for the perfect mascot!) With the end of rads yesterday, I woke up this morning wondering what I'd do with all the free time: no rads and no dr's appts. Oh! I can clean house, barn, truck, horses. Never a dull moment. But it was great not to have to hightail it to the hospital.

    Ya'll have a great weekend and enjoy the couple days with no treatment!

    Chat next week,

    Deb

  • cookiegal
    cookiegal Member Posts: 3,296
    edited January 2010
  • sanaisa
    sanaisa Member Posts: 167
    edited January 2010

    Hi all...sorry for being absent for so long (again)...Haven't had much to report as I was waiting and waiting, and waiting to get scheduled for rads after the simulation. 

    Onty, I start next Thursday the 4th...will have 33 total with the final zap on Monday, March 22.  Seems like an eternity past all the rest of you that are either done last week, today or next week!  Should I join a Rads February group?

    Onty, had my first 4mg of IV Zometa yesterday, after my Herceptin.  All I can say is WOW...the Zometa has knocked me out of my shoes.  The nurse told me yesterday that I could plan on the first one giving flu like symptoms, and that I might feel a little like how I felt after the Neupogen shot. She did say that Zometa tends not to feel as achy as the Neupogen.  Well, I don't know wht the heck, but I felt something awful this morning.  Achiness EVERYWHERE...it hurts to sit and breathe.  Ugh.  The nurse told me yesterday that generally, the first Zometa IV has the move SEs and I sure hope this is true.  My regimen is 1 Zometa IV a month for 6 months and then once every three months for three years.  Is this your regimen, too?

    I am really scared to begin RADS, I have to be honest.  I have not seen this NYT article you all were mentioning from a couple of pages back, but I am aware that there was a big hoo-ha out here at Cedars Sinai's RAD center last October because patients were receiving 8 times the programmed amount of radiation noting that "blind trust of machinery is a growing concern". It was awfule...some 200+ patients were over radiated and no-one caught it until someone got very injured. Anyway, you all seem to be doing very well...I am just being paranoid, I guess!

    Have a nice weekend...

  • unklezwifeonty
    unklezwifeonty Member Posts: 1,710
    edited January 2010

    Sanaisa

    Welcome to the rads thread again! Yes my zometa regimen is same.

    Love

  • unklezwifeonty
    unklezwifeonty Member Posts: 1,710
    edited January 2010

    Sanaisa

    Welcome to the rads thread again! Yes my zometa regimen is same as yours.

    Love

  • weety
    weety Member Posts: 1,163
    edited January 2010

    sanaisa, I for one don't mind you joining our thread at all!   A lot of us are just starting (and some still waiting) so you really won't be that far behind us.  I just had #4 today.

    victoriasecret--what number are you on that you just started to notice the side effects?

  • one-L
    one-L Member Posts: 1,110
    edited January 2010

    sanaisa, welcome, I just started so you will not be far behind me. 

    Debbie, woooohooo for you, you just need to rest a couple of days, then next week you can get back on track.

    I am a little  sore today after my tx.  I haven't looked at my breast since I got home, but it hasn't been red or even pink yet.  It could all be in my mind.  I did manage to stay still today.  They were happy about that.

    Good evening sister dawgs, have a great weekend.

    Juannelle

  • Kim09
    Kim09 Member Posts: 100
    edited January 2010

    Well I am down to the final 8 treatments.  The end is coming up so fast that I figured I better get my AI perscription mailed in so I would have it when I finish rads.

     I did talk to my rad techs about the NYT article and they told me that the test the machine every day to ensure that if it says it is emitting X dosage that is what is actually emitted.

    I think I am finally ready to get my port out.  I have been treating it as my security blanket.  

  • unklezwifeonty
    unklezwifeonty Member Posts: 1,710
    edited January 2010

    Kim,

    My rad onc told me the same thing. Mistakes do happen. But they have checks and calibrations to reduce the chances that they happen.

  • Juli-CA
    Juli-CA Member Posts: 36
    edited January 2010

    unklezwifeonty- my stats:  Jan 14 Yes No Supine 17 4

     kmf- So the zinc may cause a problem?  Maybe I should stop the Tom's and ask the Rad Onc.  Sorry to hear about the under arm sore spot.  I'll keep my eyes open and watch mine. 

    Had 12 of 21 today and I'm just now showing some redness.  I'm using Miaderm cream. 

    Juli

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