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  • momand2kids
    momand2kids Member Posts: 1,508
    edited October 2009

    I agree that we all made the best choices with the information we had at the time--- and just think of the level of emotion we were dealing with as well.

     I have no regrets about treatment--- everything I picked was based on my question "will I be able to sleep at night if I don't do this?"  as a result, I did chemo even though it was in the gray area-- no one was pushing me to do it, but when I decided to do it, my surgeon and 2 different oncs agreed..... and now that I have seen the new research on isolated tumor cells, I am really glad I made that decision.  I am glad to have had a lumpectomy--there was absolutely no evidence that a mastectomy would be better--- and I went forward with radiation and lupron and femara

    I do regret not listening to my body in the months before I was diagnosed-I knew something was wrong, but there had been a lot of stress in my family and I just figured it was that---- and it took me several months to get into the dr. office where it was found.  When I mentioned this to the onc, he said if I had gone in earlier, they might not have been able to feel it--- so, in some ways, being late worked for me....

    these are such hard decisions---  and we make them under such duress..... and the landscape on bc changes from day to day..... 

  • pod1257
    pod1257 Member Posts: 262
    edited October 2009

    My only regret is that I had an ooph, when given my risk for recurrance, I think it was totally unnecessary. My onc originally recommended a complete hyst, given my family hx of breast cancer. I said no way to the hyst but heard so much about recurrance, even at stage one, I thought I should consider the ooph. I researched for 1 yr, had a 2nd opinion on the ooph (they said I didn't need it), tested negative for BRCA, cancelled the surgery twice, but in the end I was so scared of recurrance and estrogen, that I went ahead.

     Biggest mistake I ever made. I just believe in my gut that I was "cured" with surgery and even if I am wrong, I would rather have quality of life than quanity. I wish I had kept my ovaries that are the main producers of not only estrogen, but progesterone and testosterone, all so important for a women to function normally, physically ,mentally, emotionally and sexually. I wish I had stayed on the ovarian suppression (zolodex ) for the standard 2 yrs (per my onc.) with tamox, and just have let my ovaries, awaken and start monthly cycles again. - It would have been so worth it to feel normal again.

    Oh well, we all did the best we could at the time.

    Julie 

  • hope123108
    hope123108 Member Posts: 58
    edited October 2009

    Just had to chime in...My biggest regret is the BMX, how i wish i had a lumpectomy instead. Everyday i cry for those breast, and it has destroyed my 21 yr. marriage, I absolutely hate myself. Can't go out and see other women with breast, start crying and go home sad.  Suz42 how was your care at Sloan, and if i may who did you see there.  I understand the facility is great, wondering your opion?

    Have a good weekend all !!!

  • baywatcher
    baywatcher Member Posts: 532
    edited October 2009

    My huge regret is that the first time (5 years ago) I was diagnosed with DCIS in 3 areas. I was so scared and I feel like I got on the breast cancer train. First the mammograms then was sent for a biopsy. When the biopsy reveled the DCIS I was told that the cancer was contained to the duct. I started thinking that if the DCIS had been contained in the duct, the needle biopsy opened the duct and how could it be contained when the duct had been opened? Then the breast health nurse would call and when I asked her what she would do she said that she would have a mx. I was so scared and just got pushed in to the mastectomy as the DCIS was in 3 areas.

    I regret that I ever had a mammogram.  Especially since the ACS has now said that in many cases early cancers have resulted in over treatment. I think I am a classic case of this. I am also hating myself. The regret has been intense. Everyday I think about I and am probably obsessed with it. The mx was a huge mistake. My sadness and depression is having a negative effect on my 32 year marriage. My husband still loves me but I am having trouble loving myself. I had no idea that I would be affected like this. I would have rather never had mammograms and taken my chances and if I got cancer down the road I would deal with it then.

  • baywatcher
    baywatcher Member Posts: 532
    edited October 2009

    Thanks Athena,

    I am in a support group which is headed by a physician. He has read studies about early stage breast cancer and thinks there is a good chance I was over treated too. I am having trouble dealing with the regret I have. It is like a movie, going over and over in my head 24/7.

    I would just never have routine mammograms again. If I felt a lump, I wouldn't be stupid. But finding it on a mammogram without a lump has screwed me up. I can clearly see that I am depressed. I even thought maybe antidepressents would help but the doctor said that my depression is so specific being that i felt no lump and  DCIS was caught on a mammo, that the antidepressent wouldn't help.

  • BossyRenee
    BossyRenee Member Posts: 77
    edited January 2010

    So far...no rgrets. I hope it stays that way. I have a great team of doctors. I'll just be glad when I finish this chemo. ugh...

  • kimbers
    kimbers Member Posts: 26
    edited January 2010

    My regret is having a bilateral mastectomy. I went in for a routine mammagram (turning 40) and next thing I know I am being told a I need a mastectomy for extensive DCIS and a small invasive tumor. I then had a mammgram and mri on the other breast and it came back bi-rads 3 and the doctors wanted to do a biopsy. I panicked and decided on a bilateral mastectomy. I wish now I would have given myself a chance to monitor the "good" breast and see if I could handle the monitoring.  Emotionally, it has been so hard to have both breast gone. I had to have one tissue expander removed because of infection and will have to wait till after chemo to try again. I feel like everything happened so fast and I over reacted. Everyday I wish I could go back and change my decision. I am working with a therapist now to try and move on but it is very hard. I know we all try to make the best decisions we can at the time but for some reason I can't stop wishing I had made a different one.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2010

    My biggest regret was not insisting to be put completely under for the port placement. I was so-called partially sedated / twilight sleep and can remember the whole procedure. I did ask for more sedation but they said no. I should have jumped off the table and ran.I also should have insisted on a different port. I have the purple (Bard) power port with the 3 probes that stick up under the skin. You can also see the purple from the port. I should have demended a flesh colored, smooth port.

    Other than that I am okay with the choices I made. I had chemo before surgery which I know saved me from having my breast removed. The chemo shrunk the tumor and all I needed was a lumpectomy. Now I have to do the rads and hopefully I will be done.

  • Mantra
    Mantra Member Posts: 968
    edited January 2010

    I too have no regrets. In my case, I had a lumpectomy with one small margin. Because eight tumours had been removed (all DCIS), my surgeon was unsure of whether she got it all. The tumour board all agreed I should have a mastectomy. My cancer was ER-/ PR-, necrosis, etc and they all felt it was the best move for me. I had the mastectomy, and it turned out, no additional cancer cells were found. All the cancer was removed during the lumpectomy. Now, one would think I would regret having the mastectomy. But with complete honesty I can say that I don't. I look at it this way. First, the news of "we found no more cancer" was received as incredible news. I have tried to think of it the other way . . . I had my breast removed for no reason . . . yet the incredible news just seems to completely wash away any negative news. I'm also a worrier and I don't think I would have ever been convinced that the lumpectomy got it all. So instead of moving forward with life, I would have been worried every day. Now, I completely understand how others feel about their mastectomy .  .... but I'm just expressing how I feel; not how others should feel.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited January 2010

    We all did what we thought was right with the information we had at the time; there will always be a new study that comes out saying you should have done things differently (no matter what choices you've made). I do not let my mind go down the 'regret' path, because I did what I did, and second guessing it won't change a thing. I think a positive thing we can do with our own experiences is to be a guide to others just starting out on this road, maybe help them to make more informed decisions. Very tough stuff!

  • valeriekd
    valeriekd Member Posts: 287
    edited January 2010

    My only regret is having a mammogram at 40  - hating it - And not having another til I felt a lump at 53 and suffering thru chemo,rads,arimidex. Family resentment? I think a litttle bit-that hurts every day. I just need to accept it makes me human. and makes me cry.

  • Shrek4
    Shrek4 Member Posts: 1,822
    edited January 2010

    I regret having chosen a LD flap reconstruction procedure. I should have waited a few days more and researched the whole thing better.

  • Lolita
    Lolita Member Posts: 231
    edited January 2010

    I regret not insisting on a biopsy immediately upon detection of my "suspicious calcifications" instead of getting more and more dangerous mammograms every six months for two years.

  • Lowrider54
    Lowrider54 Member Posts: 2,721
    edited January 2010

    I had no regrets until thinking back - after I elected mascectomy over lumpectomy and 8 months of chemo - I declined the radiation - I had been so sick for too long.  I remained cancer free for 10 years - in August just after my 10th cancerversary - mamo clear but xray showed an wee abnormality that led to more testing...a-ha...bone mets to the spine.  Would the 3 months of radiation 10 years ago made a difference?  It was to be targeted where the tumor was and I have no mets in ribs or sternum - only the spine.  Sitting on the fence - regrets?  I did what was best for me at the time.  It haunts me a little today but I try not to think too much about it - I am stage IV now and that is that - treating and hoping that I make it long run.

  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited January 2010

    No regrets regarding Tx....bilat...prophy one non-cancer side and modified radical with axillary dissection on cancer side.  Lumpectomy was never an option as there were 3 different places in the breast with cancer....Chemo, rads, ooph, AI's.  My regret some days is going for my annual mammo....yes I realize if I didn't, things would be much worse, but I have not felt like my "old" self since this whole BC journey began almost 4 years ago..

  • NativeMainer
    NativeMainer Member Posts: 10,462
    edited January 2010

    Radiation 3 years ago would not have made any difference in the development of mets.  Rads only "treats" the breast.  It has no anti-cancer effect on the rest of the body. 

    I regret not having a mast at the outset.  Rads was a horror.  Finally had to have a mast to stop the pain and end the fighting with abscesss that would open up and never heal.  I do regret not having the OncotypeDx done, but I couldn't afford it and insurance called it experimental.  Sometimes I regret not having ever had a baseline PET or MRI or whatever scan.  I definately regret not having tumor marker tests done before treatment, now I'll never know if that would give me early warning of a met or new bc.  I do NOT regret refusing chemo, even though that means I don't qualify for any support groups, or financial assistant programs, or anything else that might be helpful. 

  • NatureGrrl
    NatureGrrl Member Posts: 1,367
    edited January 2010

    I can see where this thread would be really helpful to people on the fence about a decision.  It might help them figure out what's best for them.

    I'm not far enough away from treatment to have regrets but I tend, for the most part, not to be a "regrets" person.  I make the best decision I can at the time and that's all I can do with anything. Looking back helps me if I can change things or learn from it, but to look back and beat myself up for what I didn't do doesn't help me.

    As others have noted, we're under intense emotional duress when we first hear about the cancer and that adds to the stress of deciding.

    I'm grateful, however, that my oncologist suggested and supported having chemo, then surgery; otherwise I would have had a mastectomy first.  I knew I couldn't deal with the surgery, recovery, emotions, etc., beyond what I was already dealing with so it was an easy decision and at the time had nothing to do with avoiding a mastectomy, just wanted to delay it until I was emotionally better. 

    As it is I had chemo and then a lumpectomy with all negative biopsies (including 17 lymph nodes).  The lumpectomy vs. mastectomy was a "gut" decision, against my surgeon's advice (although he freely admitted he has had that go both ways) but with my oncologist's blessing. My surgeon now beams when he sees me and is one of my biggest champions.

    I just finished 33 rads and have started on estrogen-blocking pills.

    I'm a big believer in trusting my gut (although I often call it listening to my soul).  I've never gone wrong when I can truly hear what it's telling me.  Will my cancer return?  Maybe, but my prognosis is excellent, and I'm happy with what I've decided.

    I'll add that I've been seeing my oncologist's therapist off and on throughout treatment, and she's been a tremendous help in many ways;  among many things, she's encouraged and supported my believing in myself.  If anyone is really having a lot of anxiety or depression or other problems, please consider talking with a professional.  Please, anyone, don't beat yourself up.  You did the best you could and that's all any of us do.

  • NativeMainer
    NativeMainer Member Posts: 10,462
    edited January 2010

    Amen, Naturegirl!

    The only decisions I've regretted are the ones that I made with my head and not my "gut", "soul", "heart" or whatever you want to call it.  If a decision FEELS RIGHT FOR YOU, do it.  Don't worry about what the "experts" says.  Nobody is an expert in YOU except YOU.  

  • Lowrider54
    Lowrider54 Member Posts: 2,721
    edited January 2010

    Thanks NativeMainer

    BC did not return locally so the rads would not have made a difference 10 years ago - I went with my 'gut' and I can stop doubting myself - no regrets from the first round. 

    Don't know about this round yet - only that I wish I would have made the decision to start dating sooner after my significant other died - I don't know quite how to go about now.  I see there is a dating thread on here somewhere - have to find that again...

  • PLJ
    PLJ Member Posts: 373
    edited October 2011

    I would have gotten copies of *all* associated test reports up front so that I could have spotted the errors and made different choices earlier. Information is power.

  • Elizabeth1889
    Elizabeth1889 Member Posts: 1,036
    edited October 2011

    I regret not "listening to my gut" when I first saw my radiation oncologist.  I knew he was not the right doctor for me and I knew his center was not the place for me to receive treatments.  After a lumpectomy, ALND surgery, and chemo, I just wanted to get rads over with as quickly as possible. The treatments there ended up being an emotional ordeal that I have still not fully recovered from.  My advice--trust your gut and run elsewhere when you feel like you are in the wrong place.

  • lulubee
    lulubee Member Posts: 1,493
    edited October 2011

    I regret that we all have to make life-altering decisions while we are in total shock.  Having said that, I love my oncologist for telling me that she trusts patient instinct, and I think my instincts have been pretty spot-on most of the time.  I accept all my past choices as being the best I could do with the information I had at the time, and I let it go.

    I regret that I didn't run straight to the doctor when I first felt that butterbean in the shower.  I was scared to death, and that fear paralyzed me for several months.  I convinced myself it was just cyclical density stuff and would go away with my next period... or maybe the next one... well, maybe the next one.  But no. I would love to dial back those four-five months I spent in panic and denial.

    I regret that I didn't ask a whole lot more questions about latissimus dorsi reconstruction before I had it done.  My new breasts are really beautiful, don't get me wrong... but the process completely took the wind out of my sails for a long time, and four years later I still regularly have to have a neuro-masseuse uncurl the edges of the lat muscle, break up adhesions, and get blood back in circulation in the repositioned tissues.

    I regret that I didn't exercise more while I was still Stage I.  Now that I'm Stage IV, I sometimes wonder what would have happened if I had exercised 5 hours a week like my doctors all recommended.

    I regret that I worried so much about recurrence while I was NED.  I'd like to have those three years back and just spend them being happy with my family and friends.  I'd like to have back those three Christmases with my children when I was NED but so scared of dying before the next Christmas that I couldn't see through my blurry tears to put the ornaments on the tree.  I should have just rejoiced to be alive and well and surrounded by love.

    So those are my regrets -- BUT I do not let myself dwell on them.  That's not helpful.

    My college roomie had a poster that said "Hocus Pocus, It's All Where You Focus."  So true.  And the good apostle Paul said, "This one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before, I press toward the mark of the high calling of God, in Christ Jesus."  Don't worry, I'm not going to take off preaching... but I offer that thought because it helps me to hang onto it; it helps me remember to just keep reaching forth and pressing toward the good stuff, and to hang onto God no matter what.

    I hope everyone here comes to a place of peace with all regrets.  Cheers, friends. 

    ~lulubee 

  • amontro
    amontro Member Posts: 504
    edited October 2011

    My only regret is not finding this board sooner. However, I did find it in time before listening to my plastic surgeon telling me to make my good breast match my reconstructing breast during implant surgery.  During expansion my recon never matched my good one and he didn't want to or couldn't make it even close to the same size.  It would have been a disaster that I would regret to this day!  I'm lopsided, but I'm so glad that I'm still holding on to my good one.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2011

    My reget is ... I wish I would have pressed harder to know what my breast would look like after the lumpectomy and then how it would like after the seroma was drained and left open to heal. I wish I knew what I was in for after "it was all over with".

  • lionessdoe
    lionessdoe Member Posts: 780
    edited November 2011

    I wish I would have just had the lumpectomy and lymphedectomy and took my chances. I have very little quality of life. Chemo and rads left me so damaged I am in horrible pain every day and my brain and energy level have not returned to pre tretment levels in 4 years.

  • SheChirple
    SheChirple Member Posts: 954
    edited November 2011

    I am still very early in my treatment.  Nothing to regret, yet. But, I wanted to say how much this thread is helping me....keep 'em coming, ladies!

  • Lena
    Lena Member Posts: 1,036
    edited November 2011

    I should have listened to MYSELF, not my Pack Rat (and then the doctors who I would not have seen if not for him): I would be dead, but what I regret is having had treatment at all. The last 2-and-a-half years of my life (since being diagnosed) have NOT been worth living, for all the reasons why I didn't want to be treated in the first place (SEs of all the treatments which didn't work anyway except to extend my life and make me feel miserable).  I am sorry I didn't just let myself die the person I was.

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