Anyone Starting Chemo Jan. 2010?
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Hi Michelle NJ-
Say I wanted to let you know that I too have tissue expanders AND a port. My surgeon fitted me with a p.a.s. port that goes into your arm. She put it in during an outpatient surgery. Actual surgery took less than 30 minutes. I am receiving taxotere and carboplatin 3 week cycle, and herceptin for one year - thus the port! small scar and a bump on my arm, but no tubing or plastic any where on the outside! Works similar to the tissue expander "fill" area. Really not limiting. My surgeon said that one of her surgeon friends had to have one and it didn't limit his surgeries. Worth asking about!
Good luck!
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nkrun- thanks for the information. Many of those food suggestions I was already eating as that is what my body has been craving! Peaches and vegies are my two biggies!
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michelle_nj--yes I have tissue expanders on both sides and they were no hinderance for me getting a port put in
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nkrun - I will let you know! Thanks! Also, I noticed we have a similar treatment plan.
mom2bnegative- Great News!
Pagowens - we had ac the same day and I agree, Day 6 was much better for me! I did manage to get out on Day 5 in the evening for a little bit. Steroids really bother my eyes. Today is my last day to take them. Are you taking steroids?
mslrg- The trouble you have with ga is the exact reason I had the port put in with just a local. I get way tooooo sick. Loved reading your stories. One time I woke up in the middle of a heel tumor surgery where they had just used an epideral. I woke up and could feel them tugging on my hip to get bone marrow out, but I had no pain. I said outloud, "I Love this epideral, no nausea!" I really scared the doctors! Within seconds they had given me more happy juice to make me sleep!
Issymom - loved your wig and all your pictures! Thanks for being so transparent!!!
11tybillion - thanks for your work on this!
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mslrg,
WHAT AN ORDEAL!!! Sending you several gentle hugs on a row (((((((((((gentle hugs)))))))))
Get some rest,
CH
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Went to find a wig today, I wasn't happy with the one I ordered on-line. Found a wonderful wig shop with a wonderful woman that specalizes in wigs for chemo patients or others with medical conditions that cause hair loss. I tried putting before and after pics here but not having luck with just pasting the pic in, any ideas?
BTW - if anyone in the Houston area needs a wig I highly recommend this lady in The Woodlands, Gayla Wigs, she was just awesome.
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Hi Michelle NJ - We have same treatment started on same day! Jan 15th - 4 AC (mine is every 3 weeks) followed by 12 weekly Taxol. Hit a good point now - hopefully until my next one. Kind of afraid of cumulative effect as I get more treatments.
Had one really bad night - woke with excruciating lower abdominal spasms for about 4 hours and fever for two days. Nurse thinks it was Cytomegalovirus Colitis - which anyone one with suppressed immune system is open to catching- but luckily fever ended so I didn't need antivirals. Laying on the floor yelling out in pain - my dog Zack was so confused he was howling with me in sympathy/confusion. Quite the scene. Funny in retrospect- not so much at the time!
On day 11 of first treatment. Have wig appt tomorrow - to have a friend's wig cut to look like something I can pull off. No signs of heavy shedding yet. My 12 year old son is going to cut my hair into a Jack in the Box Bowl Cut (like their recent ads) take some photos and then we will do the shaving. Don't know if I will be brave enough to share them..we'll see. I am not as bold the lady who is going to wear a mohawk for a day first! You go girl!
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Ok, can't get pics to work but updated my profile pic. That's me in my new hair.
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friscomom-have you tried loading and posting the pics on photobucket and copy/paste the link to this site.
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friscosmom wow, I would have never guessed that was your wig. You look great! I just did a straight copy and paste when I did my pics.
My onc just asked me to show her all the supplements I am taking. She was fine with everything. No one ever mentioned anything about diet. I was the one that brought up the soy question. She advised to stay away from it, but occassionally I could have a tofu stir fry. I don't think I eat that much soy that it would be an issue.
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My friends sister had ovarian cancer and lost her hair. She was telling me the best wig cap was a Victoria's Secret thigh high stocking. It has silicone bands that keep the "cap" on your head and the wig grips better to the top of the stocking.
I just ordered a pair. Figured it was worth a try. I have been having problems with my wig moving and my head is itchy. I tried that silicone band, but it doesn't feel very comfy to me and I think it lifts the edge of the wig.
Any experiences or wig tips out there??
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Well, I am back from round 2 of AC. Half done with AC (yeah). I am feeling much better than I did with round 1 but still a little off. My onc gave me some steroids this time to help with the nausea. Just the one dose, I don't need to take it at home. I am glad as I don't want to have to deal with SE of steroids.
As for the wigs, my wigmaker gave me two sided tape. I put a peice (2 inches) in the front, back, and one sides close to ears. It works well and that is not the unfortable part, the entire head starts to itch. I hope that will go away when the stubble fall out.
As for posting pictures, I had to try different things but eventually posted my pics to photobucket (free and easy to use). Then when you put the cursor/arrow on a pic you want to post there will be a box that opens under the picture. The second option is "direct link". Highlight that information and cut it from photobucket and paste into you message. The picture will magically embed within you message. Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the photo suggestions, copy paste didn't work for me, trying photo bucket. Sorry, no before pic, don't have one on this laptop but this is my wig; I really like it and I never I thought I'd say those words!
Thanks nkrun for the list of you posted and I'm so happy I can occassionally eat edemame!
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Hi. I felt good after chemo on days 1-2, but starting on day 3, started feeling tired and stomach ache. Actually on day 2, my teeth started to hurt. Not getting good sleep either, doesn't help w/barking dogs and snoring husband!! UGH! Doctor called and wanted me to come in for Leukine shot, but I just didn't feel like leaving the house today. I would like to see my blood count first before taking any more drugs(shot). Is that such a bad idea? I see people mention Neulasta is that the same thing? for the white counts?
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jrlegal - barking dogs and snoring husband, sounds like my house! I hadn't heard of Leukine but just did a quick search and sounds like it's similar to Neulasta.
I know how you felt not wantind to leave the house for the shot. I was scheduled for my Neulasta the Saturday morning after my Thursday treatment and my husband had to urge me out of bed to go and I actually cried at the prospect of having to get up, shower, dress and ride the 30 minute to the doctor's office; all just to be stuck with one more needle.
All I wanted to do was stay in my jammies and sleep.
Initially I was hoping my dr would only order the shots if my counts went low, I talked to him about it but he prefers to be proactive. I've heard others do it different and only do the shots if needed so no, I don't think that's such a bad idea.
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Issymom- Fabulous wig. I wish I knew that making a wig from your own hair was an option. My fat head made finding a wig very difficult. My one of two choices is ok, but not great.
Gramoflexus- As tonight is the eve of treatment #2, your experience is making me a little anxious, but I will make sure to eat lunch.
Emme-It doesn't seem fair to have to endure gallbladder, swollen gland biopsies and cancer at once. Hope you continue to feel better.
Mom2bnegativeX3- Awesome news. Here's to having 4 be your lucky number.
Cal30-Welcome to the January sisters.
Nkrun-Will keep an eye out for your starring role in commercial. I wonder if the East Coast will have it.
Leta17- I too want ANY information about diet or other 'non-drugs' as part of living a LONG, HEALTHY and STRONG life beyond chemo. Thank you Mslrg for the info.
Vegasdiva- I too am looking for wig tips. Today was day 2 of wearing the wig to the office. I can't wait to rip it off when I walk through the door. It feels still tight because of my fathead. Yesterday was my first day of wearing it to work and we had pouring rain and 50 mph winds. I thought surely it would take off in the wind like a tornado. Fortunately, I was able to keep it on my head. I am hoping it stretches, but it doesn't help.
January sisters...thanks for all your posts. It certainly helps to have you all to vent/advise/laugh and cry with. Tx 2 tomorrow....piece of cake
Best,
Barbara
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okay so now I am feeling even more overwhelmed with all of the stuff I should and shouldn't eat. I don't know about anyone else but since my first chemo last week I swear I am so hungry all of the time. Not sure if it is the beginning of nausea so instead I eat a little and feel better for a while. it's like the first trimester of pregnancy...my stomach feels like a bottemless pit. That's all I need, to gain weight on top of losing my hair and Lord only knows what else. Also very bummed because I absolutely LOVE H2O and now I can barely stand the taste of it. Ideas??? I can't seem to get enough liquids into me.
Went back to work today for the 1st time since last Thurs and it sucked! Everyone was very supportive and my principal was great but all I wanted to do was go home. feeling so overwhelmed by all that I need to get done but can't since I am taking so many days off for treatment and recovery from it. And since I work in an elem school I am dreading dealing with the students once my hair goes, esp since they are already wondering why I am out so much lately. These kids are perceptive.
Speaking of kids...last night my 7 yr. old told me I could chose the game we played "since I have cancer and all". Oh boy. Felt bad b/c last night my hubby had to work so I was alone with all 3 kids and feeling nervous b/c I wasn't feeling that well. started crying a little(thought to myself) and the boys saw me and were worried about me. I hate seeing that look in their eyes. As if this isn't enough for them to deal with,now I have to go a break down and make it harder. Oh how I miss just being the mom I used to be. Every night I pray that this experience will not be horrible for them or have any long-term bad effects on them. Damn cancer. I can handle it for me, but my kids, now that is just unfair(and I try to make it a point never to say it isn't fair but...)
sorry for the rambling, thx for listening. I really don't know what I would do without this board. You girls are life-savers and I look forward to logging on everyday:)
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nkrun - Thank you for your detailed outline from you ND about nutrition and supplements!!!
mslrg - Thank you too for your input over supplements and for making me laugh, you sure had some wild nurses!!!
paddlegirl - This evening I am also achy all of a sudden, it started about an hour after I took an antibiotic. I am supposed to take them on days 6 - 11 as added protection, but I am thinking that it activated the Neulasta side effects of achy bones!!! Not a great feeling, hoping it will pass by the morning.
Love all of your pics with wigs and without, you all look fabulous!!!
faithfulc - I read research too about Vitamin D and my onc tested me for Vitimin D, I was very low, Thanks for the reminder about that, she was going to prescribe a supplement b/c it was SO low but I don't have it yet so I will add that to my list of things to ask on Thursday, when I go in for my blood counts.
Another friend who has gone through BC and other cancers, told me to attack this problem like any other roadblock that comes up, at work, or at school (kids) etc., and thus I read research reports, probably too many, but for me the information helps me feel like I am doing something and helps me formulate questions for the docs etc.
There are some good research comments on this website around nutrition. I just reread the top one about Soy and towards the bottom it states that the Dr conducting the research received money from the United Soybean Board in 05...so for me that erases the credibility of that specific report. In most other research reports and from others here on the board there is a similar theme, increase veggies/greens (esp. broccoli & cauliflower), increase fruits, decrease meats and other fats (i.e. cheese), lower/no alchohol consumption, no smoking and exercise 30min+ a day etc. And as my parents always said, everything in moderation!
Have a great night and a great day tomorrow!!
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Youngmomof3 - I know all of this can be so overwhelming. It sucks to cancer and that is all there is to it. You will soon be done with all the treatment and will have beat this cancer. Your kids will learn that cancer does not have to be this horrible experience and people survive. Unfortunately, someone else they know will eventually get cancer and it won't be so scary. Your kids some of your down moments but they don't know what is going on in your head. This site is the perfect place to vent and share our worries and joys. No one know better than our January Sisters.
As for Vit D, I was tested last March and had a level of 5 (at least 40 is what is recommended). I have been taking vitamin D ever since. I was told to make sure it is D3 (can't remember why). Anyway, that level low level probably did not help my cause but since I am BRCA1+, most of my risk factor was genetics.
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nkrun--Saw you in the Kashi commercial today. I was telling my kids that I "know" you from this group--they were very impressed!!
Also have to say that my third grader's class all made me get well cards last week. They were so cute!! One boy wrote that he "hoped my hair grew back real soon"! So do I! Sometimes it's just the little things that make things seem not so bad. Starting the steroids tomorrow for chemo on Thursday.
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Thanks Issymom, I know in my head that my kids will be okay but it is my heart that gets me. Last year I was on bedrest in the hospital for 5 weeks and we thought my daughter wasn't going to make it( thankfully she did and she is our little miracle). Anyway that was such a difficult time for my boys and I worry that having these 2 major things occur back-to-back is just wearing down their sweet,little boy innocense and I hate that. I do want them to see me as strong but know that there will be times when they see me not at my best. I just hate for them to have to worry about their mom;kids shouldn't have to do that. And thank goodness they don't know all that runs through my head. thx again for listening and keeping me focused on the positives. sometimes I need reminders to do so.
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Dearest Issymom, I am telling you the truth when I write that you look like an angel with or without the wig. FOR REAL! AND YES, I got into the shower tonight and my hair fell out in great gobs into the bathtub. I had first chemo about two weeks ago. I had already cut my hair very short to lessen the impact BUT what a shock.So I took matters into my own hand, grabbed the dog clippers and shaved my head bald tonight. This was my first chemo (January chemo child) and the first time I have been bald since I was a baby. I SO wish our culture valued bald headed women and I am getting so angry as I write, that we are somehow SO different and think we have to "hide" our beauty. When I look at the photos of us bald warrior sisters, we are stunning and we rock!!
SV
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StillVerticle - Thank you. Good for you to take control over something you can't contol!!! It was so hard to see my bald head in the mirror for the first day and half but I am at peace with it. Though I will wear my wig a lot in public (like when I had to speak in front of 300 people last night) but I will also wear a scarf or hat as well. I am being open and honest to everyone about my cancer as I never had a friend or close family go through cancer and so I didn't know what to expect. I have a blog on www.caringbridge (lorrieschleg is the site).
The one thing I underestimated was how cold my head gets when it don't have a hat or wig on!! I even have to sleep with a beanie on.
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youngmomof3- You are doing a great job! When I was young my mother was very sick. She died from cancer when I was 25. I learned so much from seeing her strong and weak! Hang in there. Hugs!
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Hi All,
I did ask my onc and breast surgeon about vitamins, etc. Both told me to not take anything but D3 and calcium because vitamins cause anti-oxidizing action and chemotherapy is an oxidizing action. Although there is no specific research proving one way or the other, they both told me it makes sense to them not to have two opposing actions going on in your body at the same time. My onc added that if I insisted on taking my vitamins to stop 2 days before chemo and not start again until 3 days after chemo treatment. I totally cut out my multi-vitamins and the B12, C and E in early December. I want the chemo to work and figure I could stop swallowing that stuff and allow the chemo to have its best shot.
Both also told me that green tea was out - not only because of its anti-oxidizing agent but that, as my breast surgeon stated, "it makes you jucier" and you can bleed more easily - kinda like what aspirin does to your blood. SE of some of the chemo drugs, like Avastin, is bleeding. They also both pointed out that I should avoid soy products and anything that had estrogen in it or encouraged estrogen production (I'm ER+, PR+).
I now take only my high blood pressure med, D3, and Glucosamine (for my right knee arthritis), and Calcium chew. I figure the food thing is a "balance" in making sure I be careful about intake but not crazy about it. Hell, I've been eating the supermarket stuff for 57 years now - I figure my body has built up some tolerance for it. I have cut out the frozen prepared meals I used to rely on for a meal or two a week. We've been doing totally fresh since November.
My insurance does cover 3 visits to a nutritionist and that's on my list to accomplish.
Grace - I got steroids on the day of chemo in the IV prior to the chemo drugs. That was it. No problem with my eyes - but, then again, in NJ it's been lots of rainy and damp type weather. No bright sunshine like in your neck of the woods.
Ciao!
Pat
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Youngmom- I know what you mean about the kids. I can keep a brave face almost all the time until I start thinking about how unfair all of this is to the kids. That's when I start to really get upset. I mean my husband and I can understand and deal with our fear and frustration and just keep going. Kids, on the other hand, don't get why you don't want to play with them or why you're crying. I've read a couple of children's books about moms with cancer to my kids and they seem to have a handle on it sometimes. They made big signs for my bedroom door that I can put up to show if I'm in a good playing mood or a sad sick mood . They have been so happy to see the "Smiley Face" sign on my door all week.
I finally went wig shopping yesterday and I picked out a wig that I like. It wasn't nearly as traumatizing as I had expected and they were really nice and funny. I am still nervous about wearing it and getting used to it, but it looks pretty good on me. I also bought a halo which looked great with a hat over it. I probably will wear that more often, since it can be pulled back into a ponytail- which is my standard hairdo.
My docs said the same thing about supplements and chemo. They told me to stay away from all the "healthy" anti-oxidant stuff while I was on chemo. It sounded crazy to me, but they said that the job of the chemo would be counteracted by all the anti-oxidant activity of the supplements. I didn't think about green tea. I drink that stuff all the time. OOPS!
I've also been told to stay away from soy. I'm ER+ and the doc said that it's ok is small doses, but that I should definitely not be drinking soy milk regularly or consuming a lot of it in my diet. I ate a lot of soy before my diagnosis and I've worried that somehow that contributed to this cancer. No one seems to know any other reason why I'm in this boat!
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By the way, has anyone signed up for a chemo angel? I did and I received the sweetest note and treats in the mail yesterday. It was such a little pick-me-up to get ready for round 2 on Friday. It's a program that just sort of supports you through chemo with little notes of encouragement and good wishes. A girlfriend of mine told me about it and I registered easily online. If you are interested check them out at: chemoangels.com
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I may have spoken too soon about SE from Neulasta! My joints, especially my lower back and hips hurt like crazy! It is either the Neulasta or I was instructed to take an antibiotic starting day 6 - 11 as a precaution and within the hour of taking my first antibiotic, the bone/joint pain started, maybe that was a trigger for the Neulasta.
I'm ticked, b/c I have had very few side effects and if it is from the neulasta, then I am going to forgo it unless they show me that my white cell counts are too low and need the boost. Very frustrated today, walking up a flight of stairs made my bones throb, not acceptable, I'd rather live in a bubble for a few days each round then be in pain walking!
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leta17- I had the neulasta when I got chemo and it was about day 7 that I started experience hip and shoulder pain. I had one night of pretty bad hip pain, but an ibuprofen seemed to take care of it. I took ibuprofen for 2 days and haven't had pain since. Hopefully that will help you too.
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Nkrun, I saw the commercial! Oh how cute!! I was shocked that I saw it last night. I live in Kansas,
Mrs Lrg, sorry for all the trouble. But soon you will forget all about the port. I fianllydid. Everytime I go in the infusion room I see the more people that have to have their arms warmed up to get stick by a needle. My nurses get so happy when they see a port. I was really nervous about themj acessing it for the first time but it wasn't that bad.
Day 16/3 after second treatment. I feel so much better this time around. I still feel "wierd" but it's not that bad. I eat every two hours and drink atleast 100 oz of water a day. I add a lot more fiber and protien. My onc told me to stay away from lettuce, friuts that I can peel and brocilli. And supplments. I had a my D levels checked and they are 55. I just thoght it would be low. I also get the 30 min a day. My hair hasn'tstarted to fallout yet. I am really gald cause tomorrow is my little girls music program so it call fall out after that. I jsut know people will be staring at me just waiting for it to fall out. (we live in a small town.
Well my girls know.That waws a huge disscussion. My onc said that if they waited to they can come and tour where I get treatment. Not during office hours though. I thought that was so thoghtful.
Is anyone having dried lips and dry hands from washing all the time? I did a salt scrub with some bath and body products and they are soo smooth. I do the relaxing aroma therapy. Also I havethisgreat lotion that is called "gloves in a bottle" I do it every 24hours and it locks in moisture inside out. Also for my lips is from bath and body too.
Monday for treatment we brought popcicles but by the time we got down there they were melted.
Am I the only one that hasn't had surgery yet? I am worried that I won't be a canidate for recon during the surgery. I am so confused about if you can have recon before or after radation.
michelle-nj, will you have to have radation. Is chemo easie after surgery? Sorry about the bone pain. Did they tell you anything to take for it? Is is managable?
Welcome, Cal30!! I hope you make yourself right at home!
Thank you very much,Pagowens!!
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