Do *We* judge each other on our Stage?
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It's not for me to judge. Except to say that all of it stinks.
Sorry about your fish. That stinks too.
-Tricia
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Hey CH, you are not alone in your feelings! I am new to the disease and the Board. I have already been chastised for posting 5 posts in a 24 hour period. There is LOL and support, but finding the right forum is important (I think). AS a "newbie", cancer is cancer, surgery is surgery, radiation and/or chemo is fraught with risk. It is all terribly frightening. I am slated to start chemo tomorrow. I cannot stop crying because I am so terrified (saw my aunt go thru it in the 1960's) and she died anyway. I have developed a massive candida infection on my stomach and the docs have to look at it tomorrow to SEE if they should proceed with chemo. Fungal infections and steroids do not mix, yet they "think" they can try it anyway. I think not! I have had trouble since surgery in several areas that my docs assured me I would "sail thru". Yeah right! I am at the "what else can go wrong" state. I am a coward and I make no claim on "battling cancer". I am an older (supposedly wiser) woman and all of this is overwhelming and whipping my butt right now. Cowards Unite and Keep on truckin', Blessings
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I think it kinda stinks that there is a 5 post a day rule for new comers....
When I joined , I dont remember this. At the beginning of diagnosis is the hardest. You NEED to ask questions! I asked probably 500....lol.
anyways, welcome to the boards!
Oh ya, interesting question chasinghope....lets see what people say
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I've heard that the Stage IV women can be touchy about other stages posting in their forums, but they have such heavy issues to deal with that we try to give them the space they need. Beyond that I have never seen anyone "judged" based on stage, grade, or node involvement. The women on these boards are, in the main, kind and willing to help and answer any questions you have. I know you are scared and don't feel strong (hell, I never did), but I found a lot of support here and I hope you will too.
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I think it's just plain risky when you get more than 0 women together anywhere. :p
I'm sorry you've become a member of the club no one wants to be a part of. I would like to suggest that you try not to take things on here personally. Everyone here has to deal with cancer and no two people are going to handle it the same way.
Why can't you get a pet? I can understand if it's because of money issues or allergies or even if it's a cat that is an indoor/outdoor cat. I have two cats that are strictly indoor pets. I had to ask the nurse about it because the "cancer book" I got warned against handling the litter box. The nurse told me it was not a problem since my cats were indoor pets.
And I totally agree with lexislove on the 5 post a day rule. That can be tough for a newly diagnosed woman who is seeking support here.
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My goodness, I hope I have never judged anyone by their stage, grade or nodes. I like to know what each person's dx is, but not to judge them.
There are many good threads on this site, you just need to shop around until you find the right ones for you. I post to about 4 and they keep me busy.
We all have been through the tough days of early dx, telling friends and family, and we know where you are at.
Good luck to you and you will find your place.
Juannelle
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I try to stay around the newly diagnosed or stage 3 forum. Closer to home for me......and safe!
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I really don't understand this post at all......I browse through active topics, and read/reply to posts where I think I may be able to help. But, if someone doesn't give details as to their stage/diagnosis/treatment-how can we support and advise? I'm stage 1V and as Sido said, our board is somewhat protected-really until you reach this stage (and I hope that you and any others on this board never do), input from stages which aren't terminal can be upsetting. We are living with the daily hell that cancer will kill us prematurely, and that is a very heavy burden to carry. But the other boards are there to help people like yourself deal with the traumas of your diagnosis-both physical and emotional. Whether it's giving tips on chemo/treatments (hugely helpful to one newly diagnosed), or giving emotional support-yep, we've all had friends that treat us as infectious, and stay away. Honestly, we do! This is far more common that you would think-people react through fear, ignorance, embarrassment-simply because they don't know what to say or do. They are not being deliberately cruel-think how you reacted when you were diagnosed-afraid, angry, etc.....well so are they. They too need time to try and understand. Hopefully they will be back in your life-some will, some won't, and you really will learn who your true friends are. On the other hand-this whole dreadful experience will lead to you making NEW friends-and I guarantee that some will be found here.
Good luck with your treatment-whatever it is. And please give out information here if you want help-otherwise nobody will be able to give you any support! I really don't understand this need to be so secretive?
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When I was diagnosed IDC almost 5 years ago this board got me through every step of the way. You will find many women here who really want to help you get through this.
nnn
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I understand your concern, but really thre are some truly wonderfull and supportive women on this board. Please post your information so others may give you advice and support. If you are starting chemo, go to the chemo thread and find one that matches your start date. There is always a new thread started by ladies who are new like you and are scared and nervous about chemo. The same goes for radiation.
This board is a microcosm of the real world. Most people are nice, and there are a few nasties.
I agree with Elaine, most of us do not have the knowledge or experience to post any advice on Stage IV board. I somethimes just post my support or prayers for those brave ladies. But I mostly read for their advice. Other than that, there are no issues related to stege and diagnosis.
Anita
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Chasinghope, all of us are scared, all of us are worried about the future, all of us are dealing with or have dealt with the hell that is cancer treatment. You're not going to be judged for being afraid. we know what you're going through and only want to help.
If you have questions, ask them. If you want to rant, then rant away. It's a pain that there's the 5-posts-in-24-hours rule for newbies, but you'd be surprised at how soon you can get past that.
By the way, why do you say you can't get a pet? I have a cat, had her through all my treatments, and had no problems. Find out more details, maybe you can. Pets can provide incredible support in their own way.
Leah
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I was chastised for posting on a stage III thread so I know what you mean! The poster told me I wouldn't understand.....I told her we were ALL just one diagnosis away from mets. She thought she was closer...
Gentle hugs. I understand.
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I just want to add something I think is important, this site is amazing and I think the women on it are incredible, yes even the nasties because they have a right to be mad This site is a God send. I respect every single woman out here. I respect women in general and truly believe things would be so much better if we stuck together. Thank you all for all your responses.I meant absolutely no disrespect at all. I think I was having a bad day. I wish everyone peaceful stressfree nights, it's not always going to happen but I can still wish for it. Breast cancer will not take my sense of self, my sense of humor, if it takes my life then at least I did everything I could to try to prevent that. The goal is to *try* to live this *new* normal, which as everyone knows, is NOT normal. I have joined a support group, because I am convinced that people who do not have cancer (all though they mean well at times) just don't get it and heck I might even adopt a cat or two. Thanks for listening. I hear that they give good unconditional love or was that dogs?
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Hi chasinghope, I just joined the discussion boards in December so am a newbie here too. I kind of like to see the 'stats' because then I can say, "Oh, she's going through/gone through the exact same thing as me," and then I can either get or give advice (or commiserate with) someone in the same situation as myself. It has also made me think, "Maybe I shouldn't say anything because I have no clue what this person must be going through." What is the deal with the only 5 posts? Can a person do more after they've been a member a certain period of time? If so, how long? I haven't found rules anywhere, just the 'we have a problem with your post' notice if I've tried to do more than 5. Pets are awesome buddies when you are sick (and when you are well too). I had two cats (who had been cell mates at the Humane Society) throughout the whole surgery/chemo/radiation time; and two months after I was all done with treatment, a little 1 pound stray kitten showed up on my front door; which I took as a sign of life going on (what could I do but keep her)....... Get two kittens or a puppy and you will have a lot of distractions and even some fun. Good luck!
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After 50 posts there are no limits.
Sheila
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Hey Salya,Thanks for the info. SO, in my new journey on the Boards, I have had a woman hit me with the 5 post rule and telling me to go to typing PM's. Next day I did 5 posts and got a "computor generated" sign in writing from somewhere very important, telling me my five post limit was up and I could not post for 24 hours. Being the brat that I am I did it again next day and got the same post. CH and rest of gals, I will rule (said with great humor). This Board rocks! We can vent here; have a bad day(s); understand that there really are no 'nasties'; still be loved unconditionally and leap into each others (complete strangers) lives with gusto and the kindest wishes to help and heal. This is the first place where I feel understood (I live on an island). And thanks to all for the different perspectives on stages and diagnosis. I need you all to teach me how to be sensitive in my writing and forum picks. I truly did not understand the logic until I sat in the "Chemo treatment lounge" for the first time today with ladies with far more advanced cancer than mine and saw what this disease can do to us.I hope I came out with humility and a bit of humor. I am still sick as a rat after 1st chemo today and cannot sleep from steroids IV'd into me. But sending love and (((((HUGS)))) to all on this thread and the "Mod Pods" (women over 40). Blessings and sweet dreams
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StillVerticle...You can send Private Messages there is no limitation on that. Its on the upper right hand side. And if you have a message it says in pink new1 over the sign of Private Messages
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I've never judged anyone on the boards by the stage/grade/nodal involvement. I do look at that info in the signature, but as a way of determining what experiences the woman may have had--when treatment info in in the signature that's very helpful. If I'm answering a question I can take that into account and not give info that the woman probably already knows, or share info that doesn't apply to the woman's situation. On the other hand, some women are very private and don't feel comfortable posting that kind of info, and that's ok, too.
On the other hand, when I ask a question I may give a little more weight to the answers given by women with "stats" and treatment similar to mine. Even then, the answers I get from women in other situations have been very helpful and reassuring.
Just be careful when jumping to a thread from the active topics list--before you post anything double check to make sure it isn't a Stage IV forum thread. You will get snapped at if you post on that Forum, no matter how appropriate your answer.
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StillVerticle, I was the person who mentioned something on your other thread about the 5-post rule, and reminded everybody that you could still communicate via private message even after you'd hit the 5-post limit for the day.
You seem to have misunderstood the reason for my comment.
First (above), you said this: "I have already been chastised for posting 5 posts in a 24 hour period."
Then, you said this: "SO, in my new journey on the Boards, I have had a woman hit me with the 5 post rule and telling me to go to typing PM's. Next day I did 5 posts and got a "computor generated" sign in writing from somewhere very important, telling me my five post limit was up and I could not post for 24 hours. Being the brat that I am I did it again next day and got the same post."
I was that "woman". I was not "chastising" you for making 5 posts; nor did I "hit" you with that rule and "tell" you to use private messages.
Please understand that the BCO members who are posting on these discussion forums are not the ones who invented or are applying the 5-post limit. The limit was devised by the administrators of these discussion boards. I assume it's imposed by the computer software that monitors the boards.
Late on the day you first joined these boards, I noticed that you had not posted for several hours, even though people were actively discussing the questions you had asked. I don't know how new members are notified that they've posted 5 times and cannot post anymore in that 24-hour period. But, I guessed you might have received that notice and were unable to continue your end of the conversation. So, I mentioned the 5-post limit; and I pointed out that, even while you were under that restriction, people could still offer suggestions and advice, and you could reply via private message. (You had already sent me a pm, so I knew you understood how that system worked.)
I think I'll just leave it at that.
otter
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I know the 5 posts a day rule for newbies is a nuisance but I think it serves a good purpose. When spammers join simply to post commercial messages they cannot flood the site. Five inappropriate posts are quick to be reported and removed. If they repeat the spam action two or three days in a row they can be removed from membership.
I think it also gives legitimate new members a chance to ease in to the society and learn the rules of engagement. Not so long ago a new, somewhat panic stricken sister posted emotionally charged messages on several threads at the same time. It took a few days for members to realize she was genuine and not, as they say, a troll. If there had not been a 5 post limit it would have been even worse.
The 50 posts go quickly. And after all, your post is not limited in length so use your "airtime" wisely.
pam
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Thanks for the posting information and explanations. Just for curiosity, are the 5 posts until 50 rules explained somewhere on the site and I missed them? This will be number 49, so almost there!
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As PJ mentioned, the five post a day rule was implemented because there was period of time that this board was being hit by spammers with posts about bogus cancer treatments and ads for selling various things (Ugg boots for one). I remember one day when a spammer had posted a large number of threads on each forum that you had to scroll down a long way to find the active threads.
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I don't remember where I read it but when I started here I knew I was limited in the number of posts I could make. At the time I thought it would take a year to hit 50!
Ruthbru, it looks like you are at 50 already. Congratulations.
pam
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OK, I will see if it will let me post more than the 5 by trying to send this now.
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The reason there is a limit of 5 post in a 24 hour period is because about 1.5 yrs ago some idiots got on the boards and really made a big mess. Posted dozens of times on different decussions. The rule was set in place to keep this from happening again. If you had seen it you would understand why this is a good thing.
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You made it ruthbru.
Sheila
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Chasinghope - I absolutely love your name! I think we all are on this board and Chasing Hope together--so feel free to post what ever you are feeling and I am POSITIVE that another sister will read your post and respond.
We are just a bunch of little conversations and I know that I log on to get information and to maybe be able to post something of use to a sister who needs a question answered or to send a warm hug from a sister who understands.
Also, I am sorry about you loosing your pet fish
. Have to go for now--just got a phone call that my daughter came home to her house being broken into--NEVER ENDS!
Love,
Terry
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Chasingggggggggggggg, (LOL)
People treat me different too. They are afraid to ask me questions, even tho I welcome questions. I believe that knowledge helps aleviate alot of worries. Sometimes I feel I am on the outer edge of my circle of friends because I have cancer.
My personal feelings on stages.................yes stage 4 is a different ball of wax. But all stages are cancer and they all are scarey and any one of the early stagers could be joining the stage 4 boards with the same emotions and life changes. Although I pray that no one else has to join stage 4 ranks.
It's okay to be scared, mad, sad etc. And it's okay to vent. We need to do whatever makes us feel better to get thru this. Chemo was not easy for me and I didnt feel tuff while I was doing it but I feel tuff having survived it. I hope that one day soon you will also feel tuff. Until then I am glad you have found this site.
And I agree you need a cat LOL..
Hugs, Mazy
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Hi chasing hope,sorry you are a member of this club. I have found it helpful but there are some threads where I "fit" and some where I don't. I've never read stage IV thread, I'm too scared.
The tips for chemo were extremely helpful,from biotene mouthwash to ginger chips, to many others,I re read that often. I take what works and chuck what doesn't. I'm 43 and have been an RN for 20 years. I knew very little about breast cancer til 6 years ago when my mother was diagnosed.She is 58 now and cancer free. (She did not have chemo) Treatment gives us more hope than she had even six years ago.
I've finished round two and this is my worst SE day so I'm up on the steroid jitters. I don't think you'll find much judgement here, we are all just getting through. My prayers and thoughts are with you.
I have a cat but make my teenage daughter change the litter box! LOL And oh, the friends, don't worry about them, some are very flaky. They love you but are scared it could be them and it may take you calling them and saying, hey it's ok to be scared but I still need you to talk to me. Be bossy..you have earned the right. Hang in there.
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More about the 5 posts/day issue... Michellle sent this to me via PM since she is still limited. pam Hi! Can't post in that one thread where this is being discussed, but I wanted to disagree with a comment or two you made. (not that I'm being disagreeable, just offering a different, and, I think, more important perspective!
) I've admined and moderated an untold number of sites over the last 20 or more years. A 5-post-a-day limit up until 50 posts for newbies is not effective if the purpose is to keep out spammers. There are other ways to do that that do not impede a new poster from bonding with the group. As you mentioned, most are reported anyway and removed after the 2nd day or so they do that (the spammers). At best a 5-posts-a-day up until maybe 25 posts or even 15 would work nicely, in that regard.50 posts does NOT go quickly, especially if you are in the very early stages of a new diagnosis and are trying to reach out and find some peace or information.That takes a steady 10 days, and we all know how LONG 10 days is when you are in an anxious, frightened, and unstable frame of mind.10 days is an eternity.If the rule were 5 posts a day up to 20 or 25 posts, that would be 4 to 5 days. Still rough, but doable. I'm just saying, 50 posts on a generic board, you're right, flies by. But on a board of this nature is an additional layer of hell to go through!From a newbie's perspective. . . .Michele
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