December 2009 Rads Group
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Renee and others that can not sleep..ask your doctors about "trazodone", it's an old drug been around a long time, but it is the only thing that ever worked for me and I only take the 50mg (I believe they can prescribe up to 6x that) so it only takes a little to do the job.....That's terrible about your burn, mine was never a burn, just an ugly raised itchy rash and only on my upper right section of my left breast...I have not noticed anything under my arm except a pale red color...The boosts have not caused any extra redness...I wonder if it is the IRMT trilogy radiation machine that made the difference, but I can't seem to find too many of you that are using the trilogy...I think I might give myself about a week off before starting arimidex, it really scares me, but will do it, just want a break...
Adrienne, I had same talk with rad doc on first visit, they barely mentioned any se's....If we hadn't found this site, we might not ever have known just how bad it can get, I feel so bad for Renee and Runwithscissors and the others that the docs failed to tell them the rest of the story and now can't give them any relief.....
To All....... Look into ordering the book I keep mentioning the more I read it, the more I want to share with all of you, but I don't think you want me to start typing even longer posts...
"Foods to Fight Cancer", Essential foods to help prevent cancer, by Richard Beliveau, Ph.D, and Denis Gingras, Ph. D.......I ordered mine on Amazon for less than $14. with free shipping....quote from book..."Preventing cancer through diet equals non-toxic chemotherapy, because it makes use of the anticancer molecules present in food. These molecules fight cancer at the source, before it can reach maturity."....You will find it extremely easy to follow and I just can not tell you how much sense it makes!!!!
LAST RAD DAY!!!!!.......Now I start the Arimidex, can you imagine getting to the last day of that 5 year...let's see that's only 1825 days......OMG!!!!!!
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Today is my last day!! Spring can't be far behind.
I started Arimidex in November, prior to radiation. Wasn't able to put weight on left hip without pain in the beginning but I'm now back to using the treadmill so the pain is much improved. I've had no hot flashes but I'm 65 and really didn't have bad ones back in my late 40's.
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Congrats to those who are finished. Everyone else, you are in my prayers and this will be over soon for you all. Please hang in there, if I can do this, you can do this! (Believe me, I have the worst nerves on earth)
Well...I am finished tomorrow now instead of next week..Hip hip hooray!!!!!!!!!!. Doc said Im too burnt and dont need the last treatment. Go figure. Boy the doc changed the whole tune today (shakes head). Oh I am happy I will be finished early but I cant believe the stories Ive heard since day one..lol..
Somanywomen, on the same note as above, I agree these docs contradict themselves like in your case and mine. Today the doc also said my surgeon lied, radiation doesnt cause nausea..lol.. Even blamed the nausea on my other meds and other doctors for my pain. I dont know what its coming from but oh well, even though its hard, we have to let this stuff go or it will make us sicker. And its just not worth it.
Take care ladies and keep the faith. I hope and pray your side effects are few or ease up soon.
((hugs))
Jules
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Congrats somanywomen,
I hope you will keep posting - your posts especially stand out for me because you live
where I grew up... I was a Cocoa Beach space brat...
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I"M DONE!!!!>>>>and thank goodness I don't mean well done!!!!.......A good friend went with me today and then she took me to Red Lobster to celebrate....With all the anti-cancer foods I have been eating, it was a nice change...had scallops, fish, baked potato, salad and wine......Tonight I go to Eddie Money concert so YIPPEEE!!!!!!!
Runwithscissors, I will be hangin out to see how all does with this and then on to hormoneless world....When did you live here??...I've been here since the late 70's.....Love the area and actually live on Merritt Island....We don't know what will happen after shuttle flights are finished. my husband works at KSC and they still do not know anything beyond September 2010, we are hoping they extend the program for at least 5 more years.....We just have to wait and see....
Jules, glad you are done!!!!!...hope your tummy is better.....
Good luck all, you will get there....even you Veggie...we will help get your through this......
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Somanywomen: Congratulations on your last day!!! Thanks for pushing the book on us too. I'll get it!!!
Webstertoo: Congratuations on your last day too!!!
Jules: You're finished too! Congratulations! I'm glad your doc had pity on you and stopped, but you must be so burnt if he did that. Ouch! Good luck with your nausea.
Adrienne: Thanks for the feedback on the Aleve. I took some advil yesterday. Don't know if it helped or not. I still have the vicodin, just in case.
Renee: Yikes, black spots too?? Hang in there. Mynipple doesn't look too happy lately either.
Lisette: Black spots sound horrible! Is the aquafor helping. I have not liked that stuff because it is so thick that it hurts to rub on. Plus it's messy.
tbaker: Thanks for the update on the arimedex side effects. and the rad after effects.
Steeny: Your scar is starting to open?? Good lord; what does the dr say about that? I have not seen any gel-filled square. But if it's cold, I want one.
Me: Today was my first boost. 4 more to go then DONE! Red, swollen, sore, and peeling, but no itchiness or black spots (yet?) Hope I don't get them.
Tamoxifen for me, twice a day for five years. Anyone else for tamoxifen? Weight gain and hot flashes, what fun. I lost weight when first diagnosed, which was pleasant. Don't want to gain it back!
Sleep: I get so very very tired, but even so I can't sleep well. Last night I went to bed really early (with ambien). I woke up a few hours later and took more ambien. This way I slept for 8 hours and then felt pretty good today! Note about trazodone: It interferes with tamoxifen, so these can't be used together.
Are you all getting a day off rads for Martin Luther King Day? Three day weekend! Yippee!
Hang in there everyone!
Bonnie
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Hope everyone is feeling better today.
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Congrats to somanywomen, Jules and Webstertoo on finishing!!!
My burns are better today and the Rad Onc said my skin looked good. I completed #24 and I have 4 more regulars to go then 10 boosts. Yeah!!
Silvadene has worked miracles on the burns... they told me today not to have it on when I came to rads... LOL!!! I have been wearing it but it has been absorbed in and has been 9 hrs later so I guess that is o.k. an hasn't interfered. Skin is looking soooo much better!! :=) hope I don't jinx myself.
Renee
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Hi Bonnie
Dr just gave me the silvadene antibiotic lotion, only got 5 more to go so hope it wont open the whole way. I am so numb under that arm from the AND, so think that is a bit of a blessing, but have to keep looking in the mirror or I would have no idea what was going on.
you all take care, I am so thankful for this site, even though I rarely post, I spend alot of time reading all your posts and get so much inspiration from you all
Michelle
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Lissette, so sorry that you're hurting. It should be just a few days before you start feeling a lot better. I'm envisioning you enjoying your rads-free life.
Somanywomen, you are DONE!!! Wahoo!!! I am so very happy for you. No more rads! No more rads!
Webstertoo, congrats on reaching your last treatment. That is wonderful. I'm delighted to hear that you're adjusting to your hormonal treatments.
Jules, how wonderful that you got a reduction in your "sentence." That puts a big smile on my face, thinking that this weekend will be the beginning of your freedom from rads. Congratulations.
hhfheidi, keep on going. It's great that you are doing so well.
Bonnie, I know it's been challenging, but you are almost at the end of the rads trail. How's the area where your skin peeled off in the shower doing? I'm relieved that you aren't having itchiness or black areas.
Like you, I'll probably be doing Tamoxifen. Before I do, I'll have a long talk with my medical oncologist to see if the benefits outweigh the side-effects. I think they probably do, but I need to be sure. I certainly don't need any weight gain, but I'm already used to hot flashes.
Yep, this is a three-day weekend for me, too, and I'm going to enjoy the break. Have a good one.
runswithscissors, how are you doing now? Are you beginning to heal?
Renee, I'm just tickled to hear that you are feeling better now. Excellent! Did you find the Silvadene yourself, or did your doctor give it to you?
Michelle, I hope your incision hangs in there for the last few treatments. I'm glad you have antibiotic lotion to help you. You're almost done: congratulations!
Veggy, how are you getting along? I hope that hole is getting smaller every day.
To everyone who's through, many congratulations. You deserve a round of applause.
To everyone who's hurting, I'm sending you a hug, and a reminder that soon it will be over.
Me: Nothing to report. After tomorrow I'll be almost 1/2 done, and I get a 3-day weekend.
adrienne
15 down, 18 to go.
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Adrienne - I had the Silvadene cream for a while, it was given to me by prescription when we got a bad burn on a hand several years ago. It doesn't get old, and I still had some of it that I put on oven burns, etc. I pulled it out and used it... Worked like a charm!!! I still don't understand why the nurse told me not to use it when I was coming in for my treatment of radiation. Have any of us been told that while using the Silvadene?
I still don't know if I'm getting a 3 day weekend or not. They haven't said anything, but I really hope not, because I am planning on Feb. 5 being my last treatment day. I don't want to have to change that goal date. LOL!!
Renee
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I got told the same thing, to put the silvadene on in the morning and at night and to wipe as much off as possible right before the zapping. I find it really gets thick and goopy under my arm. 5 to go yeah.
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This morning I'm off to the surgeon for a check up. The hole has gotten a lot smaller. DH can't get as much gauze in the hole. I can't wait to heat what the surgeon has to say.
((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))) for eveyone who finished rads and those who are almost done.
((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))) to those who might need one.
Val
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Im officially finished and home! YAY! Just check ups from her on in. My husbands making me spaghetti dinner before he goes to work and tomorrow Id like to go out for some seafood. The techs hugged me and gave me a nice certificate. I was in tears.
Everyone else who is finished congratulations!!!!
To all of you still in the treatment you are in my prayers and I will keep checking how you are.
((big hugs))Keep the faith!!!!!!!!!
Jules
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somanywomen - I found the information you wrote about your blood work interesting - I will ask my onc about the numbers you mentioned and especially the part about tumor markers every 12 weeks. I have no idea what this means - but thank you for the leading me to learn more. I am always on the hunt for information.
Now 1 week post RADS and I am still burnt/tanned and am actually quite sore. Its the same sore I experienced off and on throughout the treatments I thought it was gone but was wrong. Hard to describe exactly the type of sore it is - not intolerable just annoying. And still itching - not too bad though.
One week tomorrow of Arimidex and SE's have not changed just a little hotter than usual - hoping and praying I will not gain any more weight. I have put on 15 lbs since this all started in September - mostly from quitting smoking and subsequently quitting Nicorette gum. I saw a naturopath Doc on my last RAD day and she has given me alot of info on diet that I am planning on trying. I will write more about that as I go.
As always thanks to all for the valuable information - I can't write on here much - usually during my lunch break at work, but I value all I learn here very much
:) have a good weekend
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I saw the surgeon today and everything is healing up nicely. The hole is more than half way healed up. Then one of the radiologists todaysaw me after that appointment. He says that he wants me to come back in 10 days and see if the wound is healed enough so they can start up radiation again. I just want to get it all over with. I have read your comments about what you had to endure through radiation and you all are very strong women. I want to have that same strength, even if it comes by way of tears and pain. I don't have to fear this because of you. I now know what is to be expected. Thanks!
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Renee, I'm surely glad that you had that Silvadene cream. How wonderful that it has done such a good job for you. I'll remember to ask for that when I get to the point that I need it. I don't know anything specific about it, but I've been told not to use anything within 4 hours before a treatment, as any residue left on the skin could change the dosage of radiation in some way. If necessary, I wash any residue off before I leave home.
I hear you about not wanting a surprise three-day weekend. Fortunately, it wasn't a surprise to me, because it was on my treatment calendar from day one.
February 5th: it's getting closer every day.
Veggy, you are healing really fast -- awesome! Keep on healing, woman, and you'll be on your way in no time.
You're right: the women here are strong. I'm not, though: I'm a real worrier. However, so far nothing that has happened to me has been as bad as I had imagined it would be. Hopefully, that will be true for you, too. And no matter what happens, we will get through it, and someday it will be only a dim memory.
Thank you for all the hugs. Hugging you right back.
steeny107, you are nearing the finish line, and soon you will be happily done with rads. Good for you, woman.
Jules, I am now doing the official happy dance for you -- many congratulations on finishing rads!!!!! Thanks for the big hugs, too. I hope you can feel that I am hugging you back.
hhfheidi, I'm cheering you on as you cross the halfway mark. Go, go, go.
tbaker59102, I'm sorry that you are still burnt and sore -- ouch. From what I've heard, that will go away quickly, though. Please let us know how things go for you.
Thanks for updating us on your experience with Arimidex, too. I'm glad it's not giving you any trouble.
Me: Not much to tell. I'm almost halfway done, although the techs did warn me at the beginning that the doctor could add or subtract from the boosts at the end. Subtraction sounds a lot better to me than addition
I have been much more comfortable and feeling far fewer burning sensations since I started doing two things: 1) Taking two Aleve (Naproxen Sodium) per day, and 2) Leaving my breast exposed to the air as much as possible. I know that soon this won't work anymore, but at least I am comfortable for now.
To all who are hurting, I am sending gentle hugs your way.
To all who are finishing, I am smiling for you. Life is good.
adrienne
16 down, 17 to go.
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Woo Hoo finished #25 today, 13 more to go!!! I miscalculated and barring any probs I will actually finish up on Feb. 3rd!!!!! 2 days earlier than I thought. I called the breast surgeon for my 3 month follow up since I saw him after my surgery the first part of Novemeber. I will see him on Feb. 23rd and hour before I see my Med Onc. I also spoke with the Med Assistant about the Seroma and she said I could come on in if the pain wasn't tolerable or I could wait till my scheduled appt. and let the doctor check it. If it needs to be drained, OUCH!!!, they will do it that day or he may leave it alone and do nothing. All I know is my surgery was Oct. 29th, almost 3 mos ago, and I still have a very sore, tender boobie, but only on that side where the Seroma is. So I guess I will wait and see. :=).
Sending hugs to all of you that get a 3 day weekend. I am actually glad that I am not getting one this time. It's one less day I will have to make up.
Renee
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adrienne your half way well done as soon as the countdown starts it flys by, I have 4 to go and am so looking forward to not having to drive to Miami everyday. 1 hour 15 mins each way does nothing for my ass lol or my mind for that matter.
My skin is very red with lots of little black marks and is blistering alot more.
Went today for some lymph drainage as my back is all swollen it was nice to just lie there and let them massage me, had to keep bringing my mind back to positive thoughts.
keep going ladies Radiation is good.
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Bonnie, I am glad you are getting the book "Foods to Fight Cancer", now I will have support in pushing it!!!...I just find it so valuable for those of us who want to take some control over what we can do to help ourselves, esp., since docs know nothing about nutritional benefits of anti-cancer foods....Let me know when you get it and what you think?
tbaker, this book could also help you with your new diet, it's very basic and easy to understand why we need to know what foods will benefit us.
I am giving myself a break before starting arimidex, I am still very sore at surgery sites and seem to be even more sore, larger area, from bottom of ribs to underarm lymph node removal area....Just some very weird shooting pains and soreness over left side of chest........My rash is healing, I guess it takes a while before surgery pain goes away and I am sure the rads didn't help the healing any......And I really need to start a regular daily walking routine.....esp., with arimidex since it causes bone loss...
Congrats to all that have finished rads and it won't be long for the rest, with veggy bringing up the rear....I plan on continuing with all of you to see how you get through this and then to the next chapter of this new life we are in.....
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Just checkin in on you all. Somanywoman I ordered that book and await it. Thanks! Veggy Im glad youre starting to heal. To everyone else, youre almost there! My prayers continue for you all to get thru this and heal. Hang in there, its soon over.
((hugs))
Enjoy your rad free weekend ladies! (we were going out today but my husband decided to do home improvement projects so ahh I will just putter around the house today..lol)
Jules
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somanywomen - I may order that book as well my next payday, which is Friday! I definitely need to lose about 30 lbs and don't want to gain any weight with the AI inhibitors. I too need to start some kind of exercise regimen and have told my hubby that I want to purchase a treadmill with some of our income tax money. I hope it works out so we can. :=) There never seems to be enough money... always bills to pay, especially now, Medical bills.
I hope everyone else is enjoying their 3 day weekend. I don't have one. When you are in the medical profession you never get many holidays off and the ones you do are Thanksgiving and Christmas. My Rads office doesn't close for Martin Luther King Day either.
Well, it's off to the laundry room I guess for me.
Renee
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Yippee!!!!!! I got my new computer today, the screen is huge, the keyboard is so tiny, but so far so good.....no more fingering the laptop...Jules and Renee, I know you will love the book, I hope everyone gets it!!!....Make sure you go to Amazon, it should be $13.57, I bought a friend of mine a copy and didn't want to wait for delivery, and it cost $19.95 at Barnes and Noble.....
I found a multi-level steamer cooker at Macys today and I threw in broccoli, garlic, onions, cilantro, then I put two fish filets and shrimp on top and steamed away..Squeezed fresh lemon over it when it was done...It was very pretty....I do cheat now and then but am really trying to stay away from all meat and use fish and anti-cancer foods as much as poosible....
I will be checking on everyone....I picked up my arimidex today, but I really don't want to start it yet, maybe in a few days...Or maybe in a week or so.....My rad doc says that each rad takes 30 days to leave our bodies, so only a couple are gone, so hopefully, I am still somewhat protected..
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I do love hearing such good news from everyone. Wheeeeeeeeee!
Renee, you must be elated to find out you'll be done earlier than you originally thought. Yes! Sorry about the seroma. I wonder if maybe after you stop rads, your body will be better able to deal with it? If not, we know the doctor can do it.
I hope you can get that treadmill. If not, is there one available where you work? You know, I actually prefer walking outside, even in the rain. Somehow, it's easier for me to stay motivated that way. For one thing, once I'm a distance from home, I can't just give up: I have to walk home
Steeny107, thank you so much for the encouragement. It does feel exciting to be almost halfway done, for sure.
I'm sorry that you have to drive so far for treatment. That adds up to a lot of hours and gas money, doesn't it? I feel lucky to have a treatment center only 3 miles away from my home. Especially lucky, because it wasn't available to us until our insurance network changed on December 1st -- pretty amazing timing, huh?
Sorry about the blistering and the black marks -- ouch. Only 4 to go for you: by next weekend, you'll be done. I am so happy for you, and I will celebrate the day that you finish.
I read your profile, and you certainly have been through quite a lot in the last few months. You are very strong indeed, and you inspire me. I hadn't heard of the cyberknife procedure, so I read up on it. It sounds absolutely brilliant, and I'm so glad that you were able to take advantage of it.
I hope the massage helped you out, and that it wasn't too uncomfortable -- are you able to lie on your stomach?
I'm beaming good, healing wishes your way.
Somanywomen, you sound extra happy to be done with rads, and I completely understand that. +1 on your plan to start walking. I already had bone loss before my diagnosis, which is why I switched over from cycling to walking.
I don't blame you for taking a break before starting the Arimidex -- you deserve a vacation.
Congrats on the new computer: happy typing and mousing.
Your steamed meal sounds yummy. Mmmmmmmmmmmm.
Jules, thanks for your prayers and hugs.
How are you feeling, and how are your burns doing? I'm sending healing thoughts your way.
hhfheidi, looks like we'll finish at about the same time. I'll race you...
veggy, keep on healing.
adrienne still 16 down, 17 to go
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Hey Adrienne
thanks, I love this site and you all so much without this I would be having a hard time.
I also ordered the book mentioned above. Need to get this weight off I aim for 20 lost 3 already yeah.
I am so looking forward to next week too, and not think about driving yeah and yep save a fortune on gas.
I was reading one of the new posts I believe a 19 year survivor and I think she had brain mets too so I am so inpired to get my son to an adult.
Everyone enjoy your Sunday
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Adrienne; I am also in Portland Or. I live in SE almost Gresham. Where are you? I go to the Northwest Cancer center at Adventist Hospital. Which one do you go to?
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Three more rads to go! God I can't wait. My skin is peeling off and it's raw under there. Ouch! I do not have raised itchy places, nor any black parts. Good! I get SO SO tired, tho. Just have to sleep. Are others having that?
I attended a lecture on Friday; speaker was David Servan-Schreiber, who has written a book called Aniti Cancer, A New Way Of Life. (anticancerways.com)The talk was excellent and I'm sure the book is too. This man is an MD PHD who had brain cancer and got interested in the role of the body's natural defenses in the prevention and treatment of cancer. The talk was very interesting! Anti-cancer foods are a big part of it, of course. He talked about areas in our lives that have changed since around 1945 when cancer rates started to increase:
• Sugar: we eat SO much more sugar than previously;he said a can of Coke has the equivalent of 12 packets of sugar! I forget why he said sugar was bad.
• Omega 3s vs Omega 6s: he talked a LOT about this. The correct balance is a 1:1 ratio between omega 3 and omega 6, but in our diets nowadays, the ratio like 1:40, with WAY too much omega 6. Omega 6 promotes cell growth (like cancer and fat cells) and promotes inflammation. Feeding the cows and chickens corn is a main culprit he says: so the meat, eggs, butter, milk and cheese is all messed up from this. Very interesting.
• He talked a lot about anti cancer foods, and I can't wait to receive the anti cancer food book from amazon. Eating lots of vegetables is critical.
• Chemical exposure: pesticides, additives, etc. of course. Eat only organic!
• Sedentary lifestyles: He quoted a bunch of studies that showed how walking 30 minutes per day 5 days a week improves survival some large amount.
• Social support: He says that way back when, families lived close by and the communitiies were close knit. Nowadays, people move on average every five years. When we are stressed, we need someone to talk to, to help, to tell our feelings to. This is critical he says. I think he's right and this forum is one place that all of use are helping meet our needs for social support!
• Sun exposure! He says that our culture has gone overboard with covering up and slathering on sun screen, so much so that we have deficiencies in vitamin D. I forget what happens wtih a vitamin D deficiency, but he said if we take home only one message from his talk, it should be that we shoudl supplement our Vitamin D. He said that 20 minutes of sun exposure per day wtih the equivalent of our upper torso and arms exposed, gives us some good number of IUs of vitamin D.
The talk was terrific. I wish it was on youtube or something. Maybe it is, who knows. I have not seen his book. It was very inspiring to think you could take steps to help your body fight cancer.
Okay, it's nap time again!
Bonnie
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