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  • ddlatt
    ddlatt Member Posts: 448
    edited December 2009

    hi friends! hard to believe so much time has passed since our treatment! i wanted to tell you that i was invited to speak at the TomoTherapy, Inc. annual meeting in Madison, WI, last week, to talk about my cancer experience and radiation experience with TomoTherapy. it was an experience of a lifetime to meet the inventor of the TomoTherapy machine, get a tour of the manufacturing plant, meet the amazing employees, and speak in front of hundreds of people and thank them. they projected some of my photos of my experience on large screens behind me (it was held in a megachurch because there were so many people), and included a self-portrait of my bilateral mastectomy, which gave me the opportunity to talk about the importance of annual mammograms starting at age 40 (or earlier if we have family history). i never dreamed that cancer and radiation would lead me to madison, wisconsin, and public speaking!  this link documents my experience there: 

    http://deborahlattimore.smugmug.com/Other/TomoTherapy-Presentation/10675326_4u9M3#743227837_m444A 

    hugs to all of you - happy holidays! 

  • Texas357
    Texas357 Member Posts: 1,552
    edited December 2009

    That's so exciting and worthwhile. Step forward and represent us all Deborah!

  • Bold
    Bold Member Posts: 692
    edited December 2009

    Hello my fellow radiators!

    I wanted to come by and say to all have a wonderful holiday! Tomorrow is my last Herceptin treatment so I will officially be done. My breast is very sore and hard in areas as well. I see my rad onc every 6 months and BS too. I believe she wants me to have a mam. every 3 months that seems a bit extreme to me. I already glow in the dark.

    I am so proud of all of us for battling and winning. Getting on with the blessings of life. You are all a part of those blessings.

    Wishing us all health peace and happiness for the next decade and beyond.

  • Texas357
    Texas357 Member Posts: 1,552
    edited January 2010

    How is everyone's skin doing? Mine has started peeling.

  • ajlive
    ajlive Member Posts: 134
    edited January 2010

    Hi everyone.  Saw my surgeon today.  Having a lot of pain in radiated breast and under armpit.  He didn't think anything was wrong that it's normal.  What is normal?  Calling rad onc to see what he says.  Not scheduled to see him until March.  Radiated area still looks a bit tanned but no problems with the skin.

  • Bold
    Bold Member Posts: 692
    edited January 2010

    ajilive: Is the area tht hurt hard? Im just a little nervous about this pain. Thanks for sharing.

  • Puppers
    Puppers Member Posts: 59
    edited January 2010

    my breast where I had the lumpectomy has been painful for many months now; my surgeon had the breast ultrasounded and there was a large fluid buildup in the cavity where the tumor was removed.  The radiologist aspirated it with a fine needle via ultrasound; the pain was relieved for a while, but has returned again.  There was a large hard area I could feel (where the fluid had collected), and while that is a bit smaller, it is still very tender and painful to the touch.  I wonder if pain may be something we will have, to a degree, from here on out as a result of the radiation??

    On another note - have any of you had a mammogram done since your radiation finished?  I'm due next month, and I don't see any way in the world I'll be able to go through with that compression on my breast!  We'll see what is suggested!!!

  • seagan
    seagan Member Posts: 166
    edited January 2010

    I've recently been feeling pain and a sort of deep-down burning near and around my lumpectomy scar, too.  It's kind of freaking me out, though I'm trying to reassure myself it's just more nerves growing back or something.

    I have my first mammo coming up on 1/25 and like you, Puppers, I can't imagine how that compression is going to feel on my still-tender, swollen boob!  I thought fear of recurrence was going to be the centerpiece of my anxiety leading up to the scan, but right now I'm mostly just worrying how much this is going to hurt!  If I wasn't meeting with the surgeon right afterward for the one-year check, I'd ask for valium (or stronger)!

  • barbiedahl
    barbiedahl Member Posts: 119
    edited January 2010

    Hi Ladies,

    I had my check with onc before Christmas and luckily I didn't know what "breast room 3" meant or I would have had a lot of time to become anxious. As it was I only found out it was for a mamo about 1/2 before so....

    I told them I was concerned because I couldn't imagine having my poor breast that seemed to be still healing flattened like that. They were very kind and it really wasn't so bad. They did really want to get the underarm part so that was a bit more uncomfortable.

    I was able to see the image and I could see the thicker skin on my left breast from the radiation. It really was a thicker outline on the image.

    The most ridiculous part was that she would say "hold your breath" but she forgot to say breath in and every darn time she said hold your breath I had just exhaled! When I went into the Onc office after that and he was having me breath while he listened to my lungs I got the giggles big time and when I told my girlfriend and doctor why I was laughing, Hold breath you don't have! my girlfriend got the giggles because the same thing had happened to her at her last mamo and my doctor just sort of smiled and shook his head.

    My underarm sometimes feels like someone has been poking it, but both the onc and radial onc thought it all looked fine and I guess it's just the body healing from them yanking out all the lymph nodes!  

    My skin is a little extra dry on my bc breast but I just cream it a bit more. Radial onc said most things like the breast edema I have seem to resolve themselves within the year.

    I think more than an ache or pain, which we have to monitor (poor Puppers!) the biggest indicator or a recurrence would be more a loss of energy. But of course after the holidays, we all feel like we are dragging! 

    I will see my Onc again in March (sort of sick of him!) and then in the summer I will have a breast MRI and see the surgeon. Oh the fun never ends!!!!

    It's nice that we are moving further and further from all the appointments and tests. Good health and lots of love to all you radical women in 2010!

  • carolinachick
    carolinachick Member Posts: 387
    edited January 2010

    For some reason I was scheduled for a mammogram within weeks of finishing radiation in July.  I gritted my teeth through it and was able to tolerate the pain, but it was awful.  I don't know what they were thinking when they scheduled that!  I had my six month bilat mammo last week, along with an appointment with my bs, and it was much better.  The tenderness seems to be going away and I am finally able to do a self-exam on that side.  For the longest time I couldn't stand to feel the scar tissue or poke around my lymph node area.  Anyway, it was good to get the all clear from my bs.  Are any of you having a breast MRI as follow up?

    So sorry to hear that some of you are still having a lot of pain and skin issues.  Here's to a better 2010 for all of us...clink, clink!

  • Bold
    Bold Member Posts: 692
    edited January 2010

    Yikees! I am more sore than ever well not ever I guess it was worse right after surgery. I remember the bag of frozen peas in my sport bra for days.  I do have fatigue and when barbiedahl said that I near jumped out of my skin. My energy has not yet fully recovered. I am better than when I was in chemo and I just finished Herecptin 3 weeks ago. Si I don't know. I am getting more nervous with time not less. I constantly have to redirect my fears. Live in the moment.Not let the fear of tomorrow rob me from the joys of the day blah blah. (I do believe in this thought process) But still its tough. I am sore in both my effected breast an the non effected breast. weird huh? And scary. My BS told me to take primrose. I have not done that yet. She also said to take Advil prior to having a mam. She said even non BC sisters should. Interesting. I to have a hard time doing a self exam. Its so stupid but I'm actually afraid. My heart start pounding. I do it but not as well or as detailed as I should. I feel like I am really dropping the ball. I have not worked out like I should (consistently). I went off my diet the month of Dec. after loosing 25 pounds. I have not been back on the scale to see the damage. Just got back on WW. Its all so much. Is'nt it? I swear everyone sound so strong and full of resolve. I sometimes feel week and scared. Sorry to have gone on about all this. I never speak to anyone about my fears as it would effect them too. So I just needed to get it out. Am I the only one? I hope so.

  • seagan
    seagan Member Posts: 166
    edited January 2010

    Oh Bold, you are definitely not the only one feeling weak, scared, and tired.  I feel all those things, very frequently (why just today, I'm two out of three!).  Getting over treatment and back to the "new normal" is so very difficult, and then it's confusing that it is so difficult; we (and certainly people around us) think we should be back to feeling our old selves again, or at least close, but we actually feel worse.  We talk about this at my support group, and the facilitator says that the post-treatment time (esp. 6-12 months out) tends to be the time cancer survivors need the most support. 

    Hell, you've just finished Herceptin -- it makes complete sense to me that you'd still be so tired.  And for me, when I'm tired, I nearly always feel weak and scared too.  Please don't feel alone in this.

  • barbiedahl
    barbiedahl Member Posts: 119
    edited January 2010

    Oh Bold, I didn't mean to make you jump, I'm so sorry. Really you just stopped Herceptin, and you know that's powerful stuff or they wouldn't bother giving it to you!

    I sat next to a bowl of chocolate during Christmas week and it seemed that I was also attempting to pickle myself in gin! I waited to get back on the scale too. I might have gained weight, but since I buckled down really hard after all the chocolate was gone :o) I'm down one pound from pre-holiday weight. 

    All the doctors I talk to say it takes 15 to 18 months to fully recover and I'm sure we will have ups and downs along the road. I have an odd issue I know is attached to chemo since my skin was soo dry throughout treatment. The skin on my feet is really really dry, I cream and go to bed with socks but by golly it barely seems to help. I think the it's the remnants of chemo, but I'll just cream my way through it.  I didn't mention this to my doctor as all my silly difference during chemo just made him sort of shake his head, he was really surprised to see my very straight hair not to mention the fact that my periods returned after chemo and I'm 51! 

    Anyone else getting lovely leg cramps from Tamox? My doctor offered to prescribe something, but I'd rather hop around at night than put any other medications into my body. 

    I only want happy thoughts in my head and I push all the scary ones away, I can only do what I can do which is exercise and eat well, oh yes and pray.

  • ajlive
    ajlive Member Posts: 134
    edited January 2010

    Bold:  radiated area no hard.  Surgeon said there is no scare tissue that skin is doing well.  Rad Onc says it is just the nerves still healing.

    Have second mamo in March.  Hoping it is not as tender as the last one.

    Has anyone heard of Molecular Breast Imaging for women with dense breast?  I called my breast center to see if they have it but they don't.  Response from my Surgeon and Med Once is they will only do the Digital Mammography unless they see something.  Not to happy with that since t was lucky the Radiologist took a second look at mine since there wasn't a tumor.

    Barbiedahl:  I was really having dry skin issue (mainly feet and hands) after being on Femara then having ovaries removed and going on Tamoxefin.  I started using the aquafor I had left over from radiation treatment at night then putting on gloves and socks to keep from getting the ointment all over everything.  It sure helped.  Also my gyno said the best lotion to use is GoldBond.  I also read on the tamo discussion board to put a bar of soap under your sheets at the foot of your bed for leg cramps.  I tried it and it worked.

    What vitamins are everyone taking now?  I uped my Calcium, D3 and COQ10.  Also take Magnesium, Green Tea Capsules, Fish Oil and Glucosamine/Chondrotin with MSM which helps with the achy joints.

    I think uping my D3 has helped my stress level and mood swings.  

  • Texas357
    Texas357 Member Posts: 1,552
    edited January 2010

    Vitamins and supplements: ha ha, I have a cabinet filled! I'm taking fish oil and vitamin D, calcium, and I just started taking grape seed extract to help combat scar tissue formation. Not sure if it will work, but grape seed extract is a good overall cardiovascular supplement so it can't do any harm.

  • barbiedahl
    barbiedahl Member Posts: 119
    edited January 2010

    ajlive thanks. I have been doing the socks, so sexy! I will try the GoldBond. I didn't even give it a thought that it might be the Tamoxifen, but duh, thanks. Okay the soap thing sound odd, but I'm willing to try it, I'd try anything to get rid of these cramps. Does it matter what kind of soap? Gee socks at night and soap at the end of my bed what a turn on to my husband! I'm going to be having an breast  MRI along with Mamo's. The surgeon said they can both find different cancers. I'm not quite sure I understand, but the Mamo didn't find my lump I did. It did show up clearly in the MRI though. I took part in a study for some new techniques for women with dense breast to help find tumors sooner. It makes me feel good that they are working hard on early detection!

  • ajlive
    ajlive Member Posts: 134
    edited January 2010

    barbiedahl:  Any kind of soap works.  Increase your potassium intake also.  I have my next mamo in March.  The womens breast center I go to only does the mammogram.  I asked surgeon and he to said mamo is enough.  I didn't agree with them but what can I say.  Luckily my radiologist wanted another look or my cancer would not have been caught.  There was no lump.  Interested in hearing more about the study you participated in. 

  • barbiedahl
    barbiedahl Member Posts: 119
    edited January 2010

    I have upped my potassium but maybe not enough. Before I even had lumpectomy I was in this research project ( in the scary basement)  One test had all these metal finger type things squesing my breast as I was laying down, another was immersing my breasts in this liquid stuff while they did what they did, and I really don't remember the last one. A team member was present during my lumpectomy and they took measurements of where my tumor really was and then they were going to compare it to what their tests had shown. The was last I heard of anything, but they are really looking for ways to detect cancer in dense breast tissue.

    My surgeon said if I hadn't found the lump it wouldn't have shown up on a mamo for "years" Being stage 2B I think that would have meant curtains for me! I didn't even know I had dense breast. I'm now telling all my friends to find out if they have dense tissue or not and ask for another type of diagnostic test for a baseline. If your surgeon feels that a mamo is all you need I'm sure there is a protocol for that. As I said my wants to do both a mamo and MRI. Everyone is different and I take some comfort in the fact that they look really closely at BC patients tests. Thanks for the helpful hints!

  • PrincessKauai59
    PrincessKauai59 Member Posts: 288
    edited January 2010

    Hello!  It's nice to see your posts!  I have been mostly away from the boards of late, trying to get back to my new normal, dealing with busy work and family full-time.  

    Bold - - congrats on finishing your Herceptin!  Unfortunately, I have to say that I share your feelings too.  It is still scary sometimes.  I'm a manager at work, but I feel like hiding sometimes.

    My hair came back really thin on top and sides; it's actually a bit embarrassing, but what am I going to do...  Well, I still have the wigs if it comes to that.  I'm on the tamoxifen and just need to find time to exercise more.

    btw, http://www.castingforrecovery.org/  is taking applications for their 2010 free fly fishing retreats for women with breast cancer.  Check it out!

  • ajlive
    ajlive Member Posts: 134
    edited January 2010

    PrincessKauai59:  Glad to hear you are getting back to your new normal.   I didn't go through chemo but my hair thinned out real bad while I was on Femera.  I was told to get Nioxon which I found at a beauty supply place and have now seen it sold in the Smart Style Beauty Salons at Walmart.  I got the Nioxin that was for fine hair which my hair is real fine.  I got the Scalp Therapy (Shampoo) and Cleanser (Conditioner).  They have a fresh minty sent to them and you feel a little tingling.  After using it for three months my beautician said I have new hair coming in all over my head.  Yea!!!!!  It's a bit expensive but well worth it.

    I saw my Med & Rad Onc's today Med Onc wants to put me back on Femara since I had my ovaries removed in October.  I don't want to go back on it due to it making my hair fall out and all the other SE's.  Med Onc had me see the Rad Onc today also due to having severe nerve pain that has gotten worse. Rad Onc gave me a prescription to relax the nerves it's an anti-depressant but he said it works well on relaxing the nerves.  He said I have symptoms of Post Mastectomy Pain Syndrome (PMPS).  Found link below that discusses it.  He said if you had a lumpectomy you could also get it.  He said my surgical scar under my right arm is close to the breast scar which he said could cause a lot of nerve problems.  I sure wish they would tell you about this stuff  before you have surgery/rad treatment.  I have been in misery for about six months.  Surgeon said it was from rad treatment.  Rad Onc says it is from both.  Anyway he is having me do the prescription for three months and if I haven't got some relief in the next two weeks he wants me to have physical therapy and possible acupuncture .  Maybe relief finally...

    Link about Post Mastectomy/Lumpectomy Pain Syndrome: http://www.cancerlynx.com/mastectomypain.html

    Take care everyone.

  • Puppers
    Puppers Member Posts: 59
    edited January 2011

    Just checking in to see how everyone is doing - happy 2011!

    I pray you are are all well as we continue on this journey of life!!

  • americanpinay
    americanpinay Member Posts: 338
    edited February 2011

    Hope all of my May 2009 Rads sisters are doing well.  Take care everyone.

  • Bold
    Bold Member Posts: 692
    edited August 2012

    Just stop by to say hello. Stay well sistahs.

  • ddlatt
    ddlatt Member Posts: 448
    edited July 2014

    Hi all,

    Today is my 5th anniversary since end of chemo and TomoTherapy radiation, with diagnosis of triple-negative breast cancer.

    http://ddlatt.blogspot.com/2014/07/five-years-sinc...

    Hope everyone is well and happy!

    xoxo

  • Bold
    Bold Member Posts: 692
    edited July 2014
  • Texas357
    Texas357 Member Posts: 1,552
    edited September 2014

    Congrats ddlatt! Hope you had a relaxing summer!

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