Anyone Starting Chemo Jan. 2010?

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  • mslrg
    mslrg Member Posts: 293
    edited January 2010

    Cathy CA thanks for the encouragement on doing the 3-day. The meeting is tonight and it will take lots of effort on my part to actually get there. My mom almost forklifted me out of bed this morning and made me go for a walk in the park. It was good for me, but I'm tired. We had sun for the first time in a coupe of weeks, so that was a nice treat too.

    pagowens--thanks for answering about Nadir--I guess the worst is yet to come then? Holy %$^#!!! My energy level is so non-existant right now. I'm in bed, watching the Haiti earthquake disaster unfold on CNN and countig my blessings.

  • pagowens
    pagowens Member Posts: 194
    edited January 2010

    Dear mslrg,

    I may be mistaken but I believe the Nadir is when your white cell blood counts are the lowest - ergo most at risk for infection - but not necessarily your lowest point of energy.  I think (altho I am a newbie) you are experiencing side effects not connected to your Nadir for the drugs.  If you took a Neulasta shot, your Nadir changes to less than 10 days (generally) and a shorter time frame.  I'm so sorry that you're experiencing these side effects.

    I got a call today that my regimen has changed once again.  Now I start next Wednesday the 20th with a dose dense format - every 2 weeks, rather than every 3 weeks.  I know this is going to kick my butt over time with not enough recovery time in between.  But, the benefit is that it's done in 16 weeks rather than 24 and it's an aggressive therapy for this GD aggressive disease, so I see that as a bonus.  So, I'm hoping that I'm one of the lucky ones that doesn't experience drastic side effects - fingers and toes crossed!  I'm still working full time but told my boss today that if this dose dense stuff is going to knock me out, I'll probably go out on disability leave for the duration.  I'd hate to do that - I love my work and it's a great distraction from BC.

    Hugs to everyone.  I'm realizing how important and valuable this discussion blog is to me.

    Pat

  • JudyM
    JudyM Member Posts: 29
    edited January 2010

    I just found out today through an Onco Type DX test that I need chemo. I'm starting next Monday, Jan. 18th: Chemo every 3 weeks, 4 times. Followed by radiation 5 days a week for 6 weeks. The doctor gave me info on these two drugs: Docetaxel Injection and Cyclophosphamide. 

    I have a few questions. I don't know what all the abbreviations mean, like TC and AC/T. Also, when does the hair start falling out..right away after the first treatment? I already arranged with my hairdresser to be ready to give me a buzz cut as soon as it starts. And also, I want to get a wig so when do I start to put that into motion? 

    It's pretty unreal having it break over me so fast. At first they said only radiation, and now the Full Monty!

    Thanks, friends.  Judy 

  • paxton
    paxton Member Posts: 577
    edited January 2010

    A lot of fatigue today and baby was crabbyyyy.  I'm surprised I feel so yucky today because I have my next tx tomorrow.  A lady from the community called me this afternoon and said they want to do a pancake breakfast fundraiser for me.  I feel sort of embarrassed, really grateful and so touched that anybody cares.  It will help so much.  Bf can stay home and help take care of the baby longer now not to mention the things we need to fix around here like the furnace.  I was so worried how this was all going to piece together. 

    I'm going to shave my hair off maybe tonight or tomorrow.  Its getting gross and starting to come out. 

  • nursemary66
    nursemary66 Member Posts: 16
    edited January 2010

    HI all. It's day9 after my first treatment on Jan. 4th. I really had a bad time on day 3,4,5. Severe body aches and pain. Then I felt pretty good for 2 days, then Tues. the fatigue hit with a vengence.Ran a low grade fever,have a nagging cough,having severe problems with my rear end...Seeing my dr. tomorrow. Have even been taking Vicodin I hurt so much.The lousy taste in my mouth is better,but my appetite is poor.Oh JOY!!!! I'm surprized that I have been hit so hard. But did manage to work 4 hours MOn and 6 on Tues.  Maryanne

  • Cathy-CA
    Cathy-CA Member Posts: 686
    edited January 2010

    JudyM -- Docetaxel is the generic name for Taxotere and Cyclophosphamide is the generic for Cytoxan.  Several drugs have the same first letter, so C can be cytoxan, cisplatin or carboplatin.  T can be taxotere or taxol.  In some cases, they are in the same family (taxotere and taxol as well as abraxane are all taxenes), in other cases not.  So, you are on TC but it could be a slightly different TC than someone else.  When your hair falls out is a bit different for each combo.  If I remember correctly from when I was on Taxotere, hair normally starts falling out around the 21st day, so if you are getting treatments three weeks apart, it may not be until after the second treatment.  I will tell you that mine just greatly thinned -- it never completely came out.

    Paxton -- so sorry you are having to battle both fatigue and a crabby baby.  That's wonderful that the community is doing a fundraiser for you.  I know that will help ease your mind a bit.

    Maryanne -- it's the pits when you have a tough time.  Be gentle with yourself and let the onc know what problems you are having.  They may need to make some adjustments.

    Pat -- glad they have finally settled on your treatment.  It's much easier to do research and get prepared once you know for sure what will be happening.

  • Issymom
    Issymom Member Posts: 264
    edited January 2010

    Yesterday was my first tx of AC and as I posted last night, I got hit with a very bad case of nausea.  It felt like a VERY bad hangover. My head hurt and stomach was very upset.  I tried to eat a little but my stomach didn't like it.  I took Zofran in the earlier afternoon and got some relief but then it got bad again and I took Compazine (it was later and I didn't worry about getting drowsy or loopy).  Fortunately, I did not get any steroids with my chemo (I thought I was going to) so I didn't have that issue for sleeping.  I took a tylenol PM and slept very well.  I got up in the middle of the night and took another compazine and woke up feeling pretty good.

    I have not had any nausea today (YEAH). The only really annoying SE is the cotton mouth feeling.  I am gargle/swoosh with salt water periodically and bought Biotene.  Anything else work for any of you.

    JudyM - Docetaxel Injection and Cyclophosphamide and the generic drug names for Taxotere and Cytoxan (AC).  Originally, I was going to be on that regimen and my onc said that I would start losing my hair around day 14 (it is the same time frame for TC).  So you can start shopping for a wig anytime. 

    Paxton - So glad your community is trying to help you.  I can't believe the stress that you must be under with financial issues, a baby, and of course Cancer!

    Good luck to all.

  • friscosmom
    friscosmom Member Posts: 146
    edited January 2010

    Leta - so sorry you are having to join us. I'm 42, but my kids are 20 and 23. Same with me, no history of BC and my BRAC was negative. If it helps to ease your mind any, I had my port put in today and that was something I was really stressing about. The good news is, it wasn't as bad as I had worked myself up to believe, the pain is manageable, the incision small and it doesn't look like I have an alien in my chest. I'm mostly sore in my muscles of the chest and shoulder but it's fairly mild. I start my Chemo tomorrow, I'm having FEC x 4 then T x 4. I'm nervous about it, scared really, but I know I'm going to get through it; preparing for the worst and hoping for the best. :)

    Will be thinking of you next week.

  • friscosmom
    friscosmom Member Posts: 146
    edited January 2010

    vegasdiva - glad you got to get your cruise in. We went out of New Orleans to Costa Maya, Guatamala, Belize and Cozumel. It did keep my mind off of things for a week, it was nice and I felt so normal again for that week. I got back Sunday and had port put in today and have first chemo tomorrow. We're going to plan one for next winter again after chemo and rads are done to celebrate. :)

  • stlcardsfan
    stlcardsfan Member Posts: 466
    edited July 2010

    Had my first treatment today.

    I am on TCH (T for Taxotere, C for Carboplatin, and H for Herceptin)

    Had this thru my port - and anyone else who has one - get the EMLA cream and use it one hour before. It works, I did not feel the needle stick. The nurse did mention that the Port area, specifically muscles, could be sore for up to a month. I also was given a prescripion for Emend, which is taken one hour before Chemo, and then on days 2 and 3. Also an anti nausea drug.

    Before the TCH started, they gave me liquid benedryl, a liquid antacid, two extra strength tylenol, and a anti-anxiety pill.  Then the Chemo started. H was first - about 1 1/2 hours for loading dose - no problems as it went in.

    Second was Taxotere. Before they started this one, the gave me ziploc bags full of ice to put my fingertips and toes in. You keep them on ice the entire time Taxotere is being injected - for me was about 1/2 hour. There have been several posts about this drug - and the tingling pain it caused in fingers and toes. I had even read about some gel mits and booties. But if my place is going to provide the ice packs, I am going to use them.

    Last was Carboplatin - this also took about 1/2 hour. I was done by about 3:30pm. Now I am just waiting for the side effects to start. Currently only have slight metal mouth, but peppermint gum seems to mask that.  Wondering what is nextSurprised

    Take care everyone.

  • friscosmom
    friscosmom Member Posts: 146
    edited January 2010

    stlcardsfan - did you have any issues with nasty taste in your mouth when they flushed your port? I was told that can be nasty and was wondering if anyone else has had that experience and has any pointers on that. I start tomorrow, I was going to buy a pack of gum on the way and chew that but not sure if that will make it worse or better. :)

  • agbmom
    agbmom Member Posts: 21
    edited January 2010

    AGBmom, what part of MASS? How old are you? Looks like we have the same diagnoses. I have only completed one cycle of AC, it's doable but everyone is different but 3rd day it wiped the floor with me burped, and then walked back over to tep on me again, OUCH!

    Chasinghope - I'm on Cape Cod - mid 40s.  When you say 3rd day, you mean 3 days after your first dose?

  • stlcardsfan
    stlcardsfan Member Posts: 466
    edited January 2010

    Friscosmom

    Yes - they did tell me it might be a salty taste when they flushed the port with saline solution first, and then the heparin solution second after the chemo was done.

    The metallic taste I believe is from the Taxotere - it is listed as a common side effect on the info I was given.

    Try sucking on peppermint hard candies or spearmint.

    These flavors of gum also work. These flavors do mask it, but it is temporary.

    Based on some older posts - like the TCH one - it appears this side effect hangs around until Chemo is done. Some women on that post mentioned weight lost due to how "funky" food tasted. Someone also said to use plastic forks and spoons. 

     Good luck tomorrow - and let us know how it goes!!!

  • leta17
    leta17 Member Posts: 120
    edited January 2010

    Friscomom - Good to hear the port went well, I'll be thinking of you tomorrow! 

  • KAJDerby
    KAJDerby Member Posts: 310
    edited January 2010

    pagowens, looks like you and I start on the same day.

    paxton, I cannot imagine having this and a baby!  My daughter is 23 and lives here in Okinawa and is a big help.  I teach half days in junior high.  Hang in there.  I'm cheering you on.

    cathyca, thank you for all of your encouragment to everyone.  It is a big help.

    Hugs to everyone.

  • VegasDiva
    VegasDiva Member Posts: 109
    edited January 2010

    Cathy-CA : that sounds like a wonderful cruise.  I have my next one scheduled for the end of Oct this year.  Hopefully by then all this will be behind me and I can sail off into the sunset! Cool  My cousins and I are starting to plan a cruise to the Baltics for June 2011.

    paxton18064:  Sorry to hear you are having a bad time right now.  Hopefully the baby will be in a better mood today. Wink  How wonderful that your friends and neighbors are so willing to help you.  Just say "thank you" and graciously accept.  There are a lot of folks who don't have that kind of support. I have a hard time accepting help from folks too.

    This morning was the first time I noticed hair starting to fall out after my shower.  Today is 14 days after my first treatment.  And how ironic that my hair came out really nice today.  I put a bunch of hairspray on it and hopefully that will keep it on my head while I am at work!!

    Love & support to all my Sistas out there.  Hope you have a good day.

  • georgiabirdgirl
    georgiabirdgirl Member Posts: 143
    edited January 2010

    Hey Vegas Diva- I hope hairspray does the trick.  When is your next treatment?

    Friscomom:  I did get as far as having my port flushed last time and there was an immediate saline taste in my mouth when they did that.  It didn't last long at all and i'm sure if I'd had an altoids I wouldn't have noticed it.

    Paxton- I know what you mean about feeling uncomfortable with people trying to help. Initially, I had the same reaction but have slowly let go of trying to take care of everything myself.  It sounds like you and your family are lucky to be in a community that recognizes and acts when they see someone in need. 

    I almost hesitate to type this because I'm afraid to jinx it, but I am finally starting chemo tomorrow.   I guess I'll believe it when it's actually happening.  I'm nervous about the fatigue and the nausea- especially the hangover description that issymom posted, but I'm more relieved just to finally be doing something!  Plus, if I plan for the worst, then I won't be unpleasantly surprised.  So, if all goes according to plan, my stats will be Start date Jan. 15, AC x 4 (every two weeks) then T x 4 (every two weeks).  We'll see...

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2010

    Got my port put in yesterday.  I vomited non stop for 12 hours after.  Originally I was thinking I had a bad reaction to "happy juice" but ironically my husband and kids also got sick.  Looks like a stomach bug is going thru my family.  Crappy timing.  Doc says I can get chemo today but will need and IV fluids prior. So much for all the hydrating I did earlier in the week. If chemo after effects are anything like my last 24 hours, I may need to rethink my invincibility game plan. As for the port pain, it is very minor even with out any pain meds. Bad thing is no shower for 4 days. Ordered my silk scarf so thanks for the plug. I opted for the Hawaiian print.  Laurie Erikson with the "good wishes" program is awesome.

    Good Luck tomorrow bikerchick1!

  • VegasDiva
    VegasDiva Member Posts: 109
    edited January 2010
    georgiabirdgirl : my next treatment is Jan 21.
  • friscosmom
    friscosmom Member Posts: 146
    edited January 2010

    nkrun - sorry you're not feeling well, hope that passes soon and that you breeze through the chemo. I had my port put in yesterday too, doing ok today, just some soreness. I was told I could shower today, wonder why different? I have some glue stuff over my incision so maybe that sort of seals it?

    I'm scheduled for 12:15 today, I'm in Texas so I will be heading toward the oncologist's office in a little over an hour. Trying hard not to focus too much on what is to come and not get too anxious; it's hard though. :)

    Best wishes to you!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2010

    friscosmom

    I'm feeling a whole lot better this morning now that I had something to eat and drink.  Yes interesting about the showering/ port concept.  I guess different points of view from different facilities. I have a plastic sheet over my entire incision so I was also confused by the direction.  I will be thinking of you today.  I'm scheduled for 1130 pst so I'm sure you will be almost done when I start.  Please let me know how it goes.

  • Issymom
    Issymom Member Posts: 264
    edited January 2010

    For all who start chemo today, you are in my prayers.  I felt much better yesterday.  When you get home take a Zofran, don't wait for symptoms (it's too late).  Eat little meals every few hours.  I didn't do either the first day and I am hoping that is why I felt so crappy.

  • mom2Bnegativex3
    mom2Bnegativex3 Member Posts: 221
    edited January 2010

    Hope everyone is doing good today. Paxton Ihope you feel better. If you go to walmart you can get the biotene gum. It is WONDERFUL. So far I haven't had any nasuea or metal mouth taste. No fatigue yet just constipation. TMI I know:)

  • Shannster
    Shannster Member Posts: 3
    edited January 2010

    Hi all...and Happy 2010 ~ can I just fast forward through this year please?!  Undecided

    I am due to start chemo on January 21...AC every 3 weeks, 4 cycles; then onto 12 weeks of Herceptin and Cytoxin I think they said...I'll finish out the year with Herceptin; and then I get to do radiation!

    I am still healing from the mastectomy (11/20/09) and 3 subsequent surgeries since then, debridement, removal of the tissue expander, and then the wound opened up. What a mess. Fortunately it looks like I'm healing well enough from all that mutilation to move forward to the poisoning stage - lol.

    Today, I am not scared witless, but it comes and goes.

  • chasinghope
    chasinghope Member Posts: 126
    edited July 2010

    evening agbmom,

     My 3rd and 4th day from my treatment there was fatigue a lot. My next one is coming up in 2 weeks. Have you decided what you're going to go with? I have a friend who is 6 years out and she went with AC and T (Taxol) I believe, she had node involvement but she is doing excellent. I like to pass on good news. 

    I hope everyone is doing well, if I have anything to offer that eases anyones treatment, I will post, I'm just a newbie here though just trying to go one day at a time like everyone else. 

    Take care everyone

     

  • agbmom
    agbmom Member Posts: 21
    edited January 2010

    Hi chasinghope - nice to hear back from you. I'm starting on the 28th with just AC, 4 cycles every three weeks.  I'm not going to do Taxol.

    Did your fatigue level plateau after the 4th day?  It's all so hard to anticipate. I have friends who had few side affects and others who were flat out.

  • paxton
    paxton Member Posts: 577
    edited January 2010

    Had my 3rd abraxane tx today despite my blood work being borderline so hopefully I do ok.  They didn't go into details, but I'm assuming white and/or red cell count are low.  I've had a lot of fatigue the past few days which may explain it (should be the days I feel better because I'm the farthest out from tx getting ready for the next one so I thought the fatigue was a little weird, but nothing is standard here so you never know what the hell is going onUndecided). 

    I've got my appt at Mayo for Monday so I really don't need any complications with low blood counts to screw things up. 

    If you do have a temp (whatever your dr tells u is the cutoff), go in.  Its an indicator your white cells are low.  That happened to me during AC last time.  When I went in, my wbc were almost non-existent and my temp was like 101 F.  I had to stay in isolation Sealedfor several days and get those shots every day (They give you neupogen instead of neulasta if it needs to be given often like that).  But you don't want to risk getting a bug when your counts are very low.  Luckily I didn't have any infections and bounced back, but just something to be aware of.  I used to meditate visualizing stimulating my bones to make white cells.  Dont' know if it does anything, but can't hurt.    

    Hope I can sleep tonight. 

  • chasinghope
    chasinghope Member Posts: 126
    edited July 2010

    Hi agbmom,

    I have done my research. I feel like we all take oncology 101 and learn everything we can about it. You have pretty much the same stats as me. Where are you going for treatment? I'm going to Dana Farber. I asked my onc if I needed Taxol and she said "I don't think you need it" YIKES *think* but I understand how she doesn't want to give me extra chemo just because. My 2nd infusion is the 28th as well? Are you in a support group on the Cape? I hope you don't mind the questions....

    Only days 3 and 4, I was tired, so I'm expecting the worst from the next cycles, but we can get through this, it is doable.  Just want to add Biotene toothpaste and mouthwash are a good combo to fight againt mouthsores. One day at a time, that's how I'm taking this...and drink lots and lots of water (and not from plastic bottles.) I'm very wary of environmental estrogen it messes with our estrogen postive selves.  I only drink water from either box or from a glass bottle. Aqua Panna/Voss/ are some that sell spring water in the bottle. Hope I helped, ga night!

  • mslrg
    mslrg Member Posts: 293
    edited January 2010

    had a much better day today. took a walk in th sun and picked up insurance forms in  the onco office. Any tips for neck and chin rash due to the steroids? I look like a pock-marked teenager!

  • Shannster
    Shannster Member Posts: 3
    edited January 2010

    I didn't really introduce myself properly, sorry ~ my name is Shannon: Shannster is my super-hero identity, lol.

    A friend told me about this site/board and said it was helpful when she was going through chemo; I'm glad this particular board is here because I've felt completely clueless about this next step and what I'm about to undergo and all the information you all are sharing about going through this is very helpful, is helping with my anxiety as I approach 'the big day/s'...Thank you. Researching online is one thing, but reading women's actual experiences is very helpful.

    Now I'm going to go email my oncologist about my treatment schedule ~ see if I correctly understand what she has told me, and confirm whether or not I am not only who I am but also something new, something called "Stage IIIC, Grade 3"...

    Someone mentioned Oncology 101 ~ yes, it's like you get this crash course in cancer when this happens, AND you have to learn another language if you want to understand what is going on/happening to you. Is there a Dummies Guide to Breast Cancer book? I could really use one...

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