Recommendation on "body shapers"
Hi all,
I have mild LE in my dominant arm. I wear a custom fitted compression sleeve and glove, but do not wrap. My lymphedema therapist says I may have very mild LE in my trunk, but says I don't need a true LE compression garment for my trunk.
Bras seem to make the unhealed sores in my axilla worse, plus they make my affected side hurt My lymph therapist suggested I get a "body shaper". She said to look for one that has wide straps, goes high up on the sides, and doesn't have side seams or underwire. I am petite (5'2", < 105 lbs) and small busted (32B after bilateral partial mastectomy).
I had never heard of a body shaper so I did a web search for body shapers. Boy, are there a ton of different ones. How does the "mild", "moderate" and firm control map onto compression grade 1 and 2? Does anyone specific recommendations for a body shaper that meets the above criteria?
Many thanks!
KS1
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I have sporadic swelling in my breast and armpit area and my p.t. suggested a "sassybax". They are really pricey, but Norm Thompson had them on sale. Still pricey, but cheaper than full price. I wore it at night for a week or so with a special pad in the problem area and it seemed to work. At least the lymphedema resolved on its own.
However, confer with the therapist re: the length before you buy anything. I have a long torso and the sassybax is rather short.)
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Here is a link to the ones that Jane recommends, and she's tried a lot:
http://www.stepup-speakout.org/Compression_camisoles_lymphedema.htm
Kira
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Thank you so very much for your advice. It's been 11 months since I have been able to wear a bra, and frankly, I am sick of hiding my chest with vests ! With your help, I feel confident I'll find a bra-esque thing to wear to my daughter's Bat Mitzvah (on 2/6/10) !
Anyways, I went to the website and the "sassybax" seems wonderful. However, the Norm Thompson website says that you have to "step into" it. I then checked out the Maidenform "Control it" and that also is described as "step into and pull us." Is this true for all shapers? Does it take a lot of arm strength to pull up? Does getting it on pull on the skin?
The reason I ask is my LE arm is pretty weak and the tissue in my left axilla and side very fragile -- as one of my rehab doc says my left arm is "fakakta" (a Yiddish word meaning "crappy" or "f*cked up:) from 5 surgical procedures and radiation. For added fun, I tore my rotator cuff in my unaffected arm and am recovering from orthopedic surgery.
Cheers
-- KS1
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I am 5' 3", 118 pounds and small-busted, 34 or 36 A. The sassybax should work for you. Unfortunately, because it has compression, it is not that easy to get into. I have pulled it over my head, but it's not recommended. Just make sure that you are wearing your compression sleeve when you put it on to avoid additional stress on your arm and hand. Good luck with the Bat Mitzvah. Unfortunately most of these garments make us small-busted women even flatter.
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This is the one I like the best.
http://www.amazon.com/Flexees-Womens-Shapewear-Camisole-3366/dp/B000VI6FS2
It is a very soft fabric, offers light support, doesn't roll up from the bottom as much as the Spanx types I have tried, and doesn't have any seams or stitching on the inside to irritate damaged skin. It is also quite affordable and pretty easy to put on.
My truncal LE is more than mild, so I find that I can only wear these two out of every three days or so. But those days are bliss compared to the days when I have to wear a more constricting garment!
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Thanks for the advice about putting the compression sleeve on before the shaper - it makes a lot of sense. I decided to wait on the step-in type garments until my orthopedic arm is stronger. I ordered 3 different styles of Barely There tops ... all are over the head, but they vary in compressions strength from moderate to firm. I figure as my arm gets stronger, I can use firmer tops.
I found a website that sells Barely There at discounted prices. Here's the URL
http://www.americanintimates.com/
-- KS1
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Bomber swears by the Barely There compression cami's--I don't like tight tops, and I don't have truncal issues, but I wanted some options, so I ordered them, and they're comfy. I found the maidenform too tight, I tried on Assets at Target and it's loaded with seams--but I found it comfy. I bought a couple of cami's with shelf bras--but they have a tight elastic band around the torso.
I actually just wear jockey cotten tanks, and shirts that let me get away with no bra.
Kira
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KS1, Mazal Tov on the upcoming Bat Mitzvah!
In addition to the bodyshaper, you might want to check out the Lymphedivas site (don't have the link but you can google it). They have a line of pretty cmpression sleeves and gauntlets in different patterns and colors so you can match your outfit, and the sleeve can be an accessory and not just a medical device.
Leah
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I agree with the Flexees one. It's soft and comfortable and pretty.
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Oh and personally, I found the Sassybax ones too tight and constricting.
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Wow ladies--this is a difficult question as to which one works best for anyone in particular!
They are all different--compression wise, cut under the arms, cut around the back, cut of the shoulder straps, cut on the back, cut on the chest. . .
Unfortunately, the only way you can really know if the particular camisole/compression vest/bra works for you is to actually try it.
Therefore, I strongly suggest that you make sure anything you order on line is returnable, and anything you purchase in a store has been tried on by you and you have sat, stood, raised your arms, stretched your arms, etc. and seen just how it feels.
Indeed, the Sassybax is just about the most compressive cami, just short of any of the compression vests or bras. For some this is wonderful, for others, it is too much. Yet, it is the only cami I would even dream of wearing on an air flight--other than that, I only wear the really compressive vests and bras.
I truly wish this was easier--and I must admit, I have spent a a fortune on these items to try them and report on them. Still, each person is different--the size of our breasts is different--the degree of compression we require is different--
Another important thing to remember is whether or not there is a constricting banded bra or underwire in the cami--this is not good for those of us with breast/truncal LE.
Also, if we require a pocket for a prostethis, or two, this is also a consideration.
We have found the WearEase Slimmer Camisole
The WearEase Slimmer Camisole has pockets already made into the garments for the insertion of a prosthesis. The fabric content is Bust 92% polyester, 8% Spandex, Body: 80% Nylon, 20% Spandex. This cami is the only one we have found to have an "A" line profile, being slightly wider at the hip, and longer than most cami's, and having no problems in "riding up," which we have found with some of the other cami's if they are not "tucked in." It is also cut higher in the front, under the arms and on the back than most cami's we have reviewed, which we find wonderful for truncal lymphedema. Please go to WearEase Slimmer Camisole to see 360 degree photos. We have found the shoulder straps very comfortable. The price is in the range of $50.00.
We have found this camisole extremely comfortable, easy to wear all day and to sleep in, and the prosthesis pockets can be used to hold Swell SpotsTM in place during sleep or during the day, whether you have had reconstruction or not.
Review by Binney: (double mastectomy, no reconstruction) The fabric is lovely and very comfortable, but with enough body to do some serious work at controlling truncal swelling. The bottom stays in place without rolling, and there's no "band" below the breast area to block lymph flow. Prostheses slip in very easily and stay in place well, and the coverage under the arm and around on the back is excellent. It's cut high in front too, which is a real advantage for controlling swelling higher on the chest, but it does mean that the top shows with even a moderately low-cut shirt. Thinking of it as a part of a chic "layered look" can make the high neckline a deliberate fashion choice instead of an unfortunate medical necessity. You might even stop by your local fabric store and pick out a lace inset to give the neckline added appeal. (To maintain the compression, tack it lightly in a couple of spots along the neck instead of sewing it in place with a line of stitches). As an added bonus: this really is a "slimmer" for hips and tummy as well.
Review by OneBadBoob: (single mastectomy with TRAM reconstruction) This is one comfortable cami! One of the reasons I love it is that it does not "ride up" at all. I agree with everything Binney has said. I actually like the higher cut on the chest, since I can wear it under jackets and shirts, with buttons open, and not show any "cleavage" but just a pretty black cami underneath. And with all of the "heat" our compression garments can add, I am happy not to have to add an additional camisole or "dickie" to cover the cleavage area.
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I have the Assets one from Target- I wear it insideout so the seams don't rub. prob wouldn't be good under tight clothes- it does roll up in the midriff some, but the wide straps and high back coverage is good. the material is very soft. I am considering trying the sassybax.
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In an earlier post, I said that americanintimates.com sold "barely there" items at a discount. There may be a reason ... 13 days after placing my order, it is still listed as "being in process." I googled and discovered that many people have had horrible experience.
I'm going to try again with another online store. The store HerRoom has great descriptions and images. Has anyone had experience with them? Any other online store recommendations? I've only got 9 days left to get a bra-esque type thing for my daughter's Bat Mitzvah, so I need a very reliable source! Karin
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After I posted the email, I googled HerRoom and a couple of other places. I found bad reviews about all, with timely shipping seems to be a big problem. So I went physical shopping. Target didn't have any assets in small. FYI Kohls has a large selection of brands (flexees, maidenform control it, barely there, etc.), though most of the pieces are large sizes. I grabbed all of the smalls without trying them on. OneBadBoob, you are so right about needing to try things on. I was worried about the "pull up" type garments, but I ended up pulling them all up because it was easier on my shoulders. The 3 types that I thought would be perfect (2 flexees and some other brand) didn't work. The MaidenForm "Control it" was the winner. Even the small is somewhat big on me, so I am not sure how much compression I am getting, but so far it is very comfortable. It doesn't seem to be irritating my left axilla, and having some support on the right breast (where I had a partial mastectomy) feels terrific. I am looking forward to teaching tomorrow sans vest/jacket/coat etc.. Thank you all so very much much. After 11 months of wearing nothing and hiding my chest, it is great to feel dressed. -- KarinPS The "control it" won't work for the Bat Mitzvah party (it will show). Depending on the state of my axilla, I will either treat myself to an evening of real bra or wear a shawl.
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After my PT suggested a shaper to add comfortable torso compression (I, too, have been braless now for nearly a year), I paid for a full day of childcare so I could go from store to store and try on various brands and sizes of shapers. I could tell right away that most weren't going to work for me. But I bought several different ones to try. Ended up liking Spanx the best (but specific styles of Spanx). My underarm and back are both very reactive to any seams - especially on the edges of the garments. I like that the Spanx don't have finished (2 or more layer) seams on any edges. However, the compression is pretty light and I doubt you'd find them small enough. I'm bigger than you - 5'4", about 125 pounds, 34B-C - and I need to wear a small to get sufficient compression.
The Control It you found looks intriguing - I don't remember seeing that when I went on my shopping expedition. I notice it does seem to have rather thick hems on the edges under the arms - but I'd need to see it in real life to be sure. Looks interesting, though. So glad it's working for you!
Also wanted to recommend looking for shapers on eBay (once you know exactly what type and size you want). I've had very good luck getting brand new Spanx camisoles for about 1/3 of retail from eBay (that is, for $12-20 instead of $42-49). As I'm wearing them 24/7 (sometimes with more serious compression garments on top), I need quite a few, and wasn't too excited about paying $50 a pop (including tax...)
Good luck!
Linda
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I dont like to wear my sleeve and I use the electric machine most every day before I go to bed plus I wrap at night my arm but I am not sure what the spanx can do for you I have spanx for my bottom ha to keep my jingle from jingling around can you explain what the Shapers do for you maybe its a trick I dont know of. The sleeve would be ok to wear in winter months but its such a pain to put on if you know what I mean and summer forget it because its visible and my hair has made me look awful enough I sure dont want to sweet to death with a sleeve on and have people say whats that for ...a year and half and still dont have enough hair to go without a hat its so awful.....I look like a old lady in the nursing home that is loosing her age at 90 accept I am young 58 use to be nice looking lady now not so much for sure..
Maura
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I have learned a lot about body shapers in the past 3 weeks! Here's my summary -- you can't predict how something will fit without trying it on. I tried on a total of 10 different types of body shapers. As best as I could tell, there was no correlation between the manufacturers descriptions of "firmness" and how comfortable they felt. Within a brand, there were large variations in comfort. Within a style there were large variations in comfort. The one thing that I consistently didn't like were body shapers with thin straps (like a bra or camisole would have). For me, the winner was Maidenform's control it camisole.
http://www.kohls.com/kohlsStore/PRD~267729/Maidenform+Control+It+Camisole.jsp?crosssell=true
I want to thank all of you so much for sharing your wisdom. I've been wearing a camisole for the past 5 days and I feel better, both physically and mentally. Less like a patient with missing parts and more like a whole person. Even before BC, I avoided clothing stores like the plague. On Friday, I went to Talbots and tried clothes on IN the store. One of the sales people nodded knowingly at my arm and took me under her wing. What an angel -- he seemed to know exactly what would and would not work. She dug things up from the store room, the returns bin etc. For $150, I left with 13 pieces of clothing that actually fit. -- Karin
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Karin
I'm glad you found something that will work for you. I also like the Control It, though the little strip down the center front irritates my skin a bit. I also had a little bit of unraveling on the neckline, but it's on one that I've been wearing for a year or so.
I have found that discount department stores (Ross, Marshall's, TJ Maxx, Nordstroms Rack, etc) often have a wide variety of body shapers for low prices, so once I find one that I like I look for it in my size whenever I shop one of those places. I have also gotten good prices on discontinued colors on Amazon.com.
Best,
April in Texas
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