Anyone Starting Chemo Jan. 2010?

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  • pagowens
    pagowens Member Posts: 194
    edited January 2010

    Hi Grace,

    Got my port in on Friday afternoon.  Thankfully the sedation knocked me out and I woke up all done.  When the sedation and painkillers wore off, felt like someone punched me in the chest and I was sore.  Hardest getting up out of bed but I can sleep on my right side (port is on my left chest).  Was tired this afternoon, so I took a nap.  But, I must say, each time I wake up the soreness is much less and I am happy no real pain or problems.  So, the port thing for me was no biggie after all.  I think the anticipation is worse, sometimes, than the actual treatment.  I start chemo on Tuesday.  I will be wearing my Wonder Woman stuff - just like I did Friday when I was a bit fearful.  It helped me and gave the nurses and surgeon a good laugh too.  They let me wear my Wonder Woman bracelet and panties into surgery (along with the gown).  Laughing  The nurses told me that when I come back to get my port out in the future, they'll all be wearing their Wonder Woman stuff, too.  LOL.

    Pat

  • AL1841
    AL1841 Member Posts: 28
    edited January 2010

    Judy1973: I start CMF on Monday so don't feel alone.  I feel very alone because I seem to be the only one with a low oncotype score (13) taking this chemo.  I had a choice...either this or ovarian suppression and I chose this route.  My oncologist (at a large well known academic NYC cancer center) recommended this.

    I'm hoping it goes well.

  • agbmom
    agbmom Member Posts: 21
    edited January 2010

    I'm starting chemo the week after next, probably January 21st, if my incision heals by then.  On the fence between AC and AC-T.

  • 11tyBillion
    11tyBillion Member Posts: 96
    edited January 2010

      Mom2bNegativeX3 - I have 3 more AC to go.  One down, three more ..... ugh.  After the terrible nights sleep last night, I am going to call the Dr. today to see if I can get some sleep aid.  It was TERRIBLE!  I kept dreaming that I had to be KNITTING mittens in order to sleep, and if I even stopped once, I would spring awake.  So my whole freaking night was kntting mittens!  What is sad is that I DO knit, and my kids need mittens ... why oh why could I not have actually turned out a pair or two last ngith in my sleep!?!?!?!??!

    that and I am so amped up that I can barely sit still!  Oh this is SO not me!  I have not taken any Emend, or steroid for over 24-48 hours, WTF!  I cannt have another sleepless night again tonight!

  • georgiabirdgirl
    georgiabirdgirl Member Posts: 143
    edited January 2010

    11tybillion:  I would definitely talk to them about some sort of sleep aid.  My doctor keeps telling me that they can handle almost any side effect (except the fatigue) so that if it's difficult to deal with let them know.

    I read about the lidocaine cream and got a prescription.  Even though I didn't start my chemo last week, I did get my port accessed and had a chance to "test drive" how it worked.  The lidocaine was TERRIFIC.  I didn't feel a thing.  I just smeared a little on an hour before my appt. and by the time I was there it was totally numb.

    Paxton:  Thanks for the pictures and the information about what it felt like to lose your hair.  I think the more I know what to expect the less traumatic it will be.  I've got a bunch of scarves, buffs, and hats and I even bought some bangs and eyebrows.  I'm unsure about a wig, but have signed up for a "Look Good Feel Better" class to see what they can help me with.  It's not until next month, so it'll probably be a welcome thing for me by then. 

    I talked to my doc about the neulasta too and he gives it prophylactically.  So, that's one I'll just deal with.  I am wondering if maybe the steroid can be avoided, but probably not.  I'm usually so against pills.  I mean i don't mind medication if I need it, but I'm not quick to take something if I don't have to.  This is going to be weird having so much in my body all the time.

  • mom2Bnegativex3
    mom2Bnegativex3 Member Posts: 221
    edited January 2010

    That stinks, 11tybillion. We are going shopping today for some things for me so we will be prepared, (all tips thinks to you fine ladies).

    Does anyone know why I am having chemo first and then surgery? they are hoping all 8 treatmeants work then to go have a masectomy,

  • Cathy-CA
    Cathy-CA Member Posts: 686
    edited January 2010

    Mom2B -- You should ask your doctor this question, but normally chemo is done first for one of two reasons.  The first is if the tumor is large and shrinking makes removal easier.  Since you are having a masectomy, that doesn't seem to be what's going on in your case.  The other is so they can monitor how effective the chemo is.  You don't list your Her2 status, but if you are triple negative, your doctor may want to able to see that the selected chemo is shrinking the tumor.  Have they mentioned doing a rescan part way through to see if the tumor is shrinking?

    Georgiabird -- Glad the cream worked for you.  I found it very effective.  I picked up my rx yesterday so I'm all set to go for this week.

    Paxton -- your son is a cutie.  So sorry you are going through this again.  It looks like there are three of us that are "repeat customers" in this group.

    AL1841 and Judy -- One of the women I went through chemo with two years ago had CMF.  She found it a very easy combination and is doing wonderfully well.  I'm still in touch with her on a regular basis.  If you want to talk to someone about this combination, send me a PM and I'll have her contact you.

    Pat -- I love your attitude!  My port goes in Tuesday and I know from past experience that I will love it by the second or third round (I have 18).  I'm not looking forward to those first few days of soreness, but I know it's worth it.

    11ty -- Absolutely talk to your doc about your lack of sleep.  That alone can make you feel much worse. 

  • paxton
    paxton Member Posts: 577
    edited January 2010

    mom: there are lots of reasons why they do chemo before surgery.  The good news is chemo first doesn't lessen the results or compromise your outcome. 

    This time I'm doing chemo first because we can't rule out the spot on my liver isn't the bc spreading (tests came back negative so hopefully its not the cancer: could be anything).  But if the tumor in my breast would continue to grow, then we'd stop and do surgery before going back on chemo.  I think its a month wait between surgery and chemo.  I'm also going to get in at the Mayo Clinic for a 2nd opinion in case there's something better for my case. 

  • mom2Bnegativex3
    mom2Bnegativex3 Member Posts: 221
    edited January 2010

    Yep I am triple neg. I just didn't know how to do my siggyWink Mine is budding up to my chest wall so mabye that is why. Thanks for the info. That helps a lot. We are to go and let them examine me after the second one. They did mention having a MRI of my head to rule out any tumor in there. I would rather have treatments then get anymore bad news from test results. UGH....

    On the losing hair stuff, you lose eye lashes and eye brows? Here I thought if I could only wear mascara no one would care if I didn't have any hair. lol Cause I can't wear false eyelashes thenFrown

    Thanks Paxton, that makes be feel a lot better.

  • bbd
    bbd Member Posts: 53
    edited January 2010

    Ladies-

    I hope everyone is feeling well. Want to advise going easy on food after chemo that might cause heartburn. I was feeling so well that I didn't really stop and think about the rather painful heartburn. I guess it is better than vomiting. So go easy. Still all is well, not too bad. Much more tired and drained today but all in all not that bad for day 4. Be well.

    Barbara

  • VegasDiva
    VegasDiva Member Posts: 109
    edited January 2010

    ddieneue - Doris, are you out there?  I was wondering how you are doing.  You started on the same treatment as me 2 days earlier.  I'm happy to report I feel great.

    Hang in there bbd, it all got easier after the 4th day.

  • stlcardsfan
    stlcardsfan Member Posts: 466
    edited January 2010

    Hello all,

     Another new person here.

    Due to start Chemo on 1/13.

    Port was installed 1/7, and had another biopsy to confirm original diagnosis since I switched to a different location for treatment. Also had a sentinel lymph node biopsy done - awaiting the results of that. so for now put 0/1 in signature line - hopefully it will stay that way!

    I am to be on 6 rounds of TCH (Taxotere also known as Docetaxel, Carboplatin and Herceptin). Then surgery - based on size, my Dr's said Chemo first.

    I also have a bicuspid aortic value - and am concerned about that being on Herceptin.

    Have a cardio appt tomorrow 1/11. Have already had EKG, echocardiogram, bone scan, CT scan and Breast MRI. So far so good, no indication of spread. 

    For those of you that have started Chemo - what type of things have you done before hand? Eat a big meal, or little one? Drink a lot of water? I don't think I have read anything about the before hand prep. Just what to expect after.

    My Dr's have given me several prescriptions for symptoms.

    Emla cream for the port

    Emend, Decadron (nervous about this one given what I have read to far), neulasta.

    Then my others to take as needed - Lorazepam, Compazine (both pill and suppository), Zofran and Magic Mouthwash (liquid mixture of Mylanta, Benadryl and Lidocaine) for mouth sores. 

    I have a mini pharmacy it seems right now.

    Anyone else in the St. Louis area?

  • paxton
    paxton Member Posts: 577
    edited January 2010

    I didn't lose my eyebrows or eyelashes during ACT tx except for one week during the taxol.  They got thinner, but its the little things that help.

    I'm having a lot of fatigue today.  Just got the baby bathed and to bed so I can crash now.  I have help around a lot but the times I don't, it sure gets tough.  One day at a time, one hour at a time even. 

    Good Luck to everything one this week.

  • mom2Bnegativex3
    mom2Bnegativex3 Member Posts: 221
    edited January 2010

    Wow Stlcardsfan you sound like you got it down. I went shopping today and got biotene toothpaste and wash. My onc told me to wash out with 1/2 baking soda and 1/2 salt water 4 times a day. Also at my walmart I bought the biotene game. Sounds great too! Oh and just incase I got one of those warm up hearts cause my hands get so cold while drinking water to warm up my hands. Walmart has them for around a $1. Also I am pushing atleas 100 oz of water a day. Hope to combate the constipation, fatigue and getting sick. We bought the senikot S today just in case. I go for my chemo tomorrow..

    I am not in the St Louis area but still close to Mo.

  • paxton
    paxton Member Posts: 577
    edited January 2010

    stl: I would eat a few crackers before until you know how you feel during the tx.  Maybe bring a sandwich along to eat if you feel up to it during the tx.  Its kind of like morning sickness; getting that balance of eating enough but not too much. 

    I was worried about the decadron my first time because I have an anxiety and panic disorder.  I didn't have a problem with it.  You might want to take some Ativan or even the compazine should help to sleep that first night.  The problem I ran into with decadron was when they sent me home to keep taking some during the first part of the week after the tx.  I felt good on it, then when I was suppose to quit, I would crash so hard it wasn't even funny.  So, I just took the decadron in my chemo tx and used the other drugs at home and things went fine.  You'll just have to see how you react.  And yes, you do become your own pharmacy. 

    Also, its very very helpful to have a chart you record what you're taking on.  I also added a column that would tell me when I could take it again so I wasn't relying on my mind (cuz u sort of lose that temporarily lol).

    Best of Luck

  • stlcardsfan
    stlcardsfan Member Posts: 466
    edited January 2010

    Paxton18064 and Mom2bnegativex3:

    Thanks for the tips.

    Hope all continues to go well for everyone with their treatments.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2010

    Getting ready to start chemo this week.  Got my pantry stocked with healthy/ bland food and supplements as recommended by my ND (onc approved of course), got a super short haircut, gave the kids one more laundry and cleaning lesson, got a Kindle, got some new comfy sweat pants, got beanies and scarfs, weaned off coffee and wine, dentist tomorrow, port placement on Wednesday, chemo thursday.etc etc.  I'm sure I'm forgetting something.  I'm a planner. Whoa did cancer know if was going against such a competitive opponent.  Bring it on-I say!  Best of luck to my starting chemo Jan 2010 sisters.  Let's beat this nasty disease.  

  • friscosmom
    friscosmom Member Posts: 146
    edited January 2010

    nkrun - thanks, will be thinking of you as well. Just returned from my pre-chemo cruise today. Well, it was actually a cruise we planned a year ago, just happened to turn into a pre-chemo cruise. Unfortunately, I came back with a nasty cold or something so not sure if the surgeon will want to do the port this week or if the onco will want to start chemo. I'll have to talk to them both tomorrow and see what they think.

  • chasinghope
    chasinghope Member Posts: 126
    edited July 2010

    Hey everyone, sorry for not being on top of this board I've fallen behind do to extreme fatigue I had AC on Jan 7th, first two days I was fine, then, WHAM!!!!!

     But WE will all get through this 

    Georgia, what regime did you end up with? 

     Carol, ask you doctor for Ambian, it's safe and doesn't mess with the chemo.

     AGBmom, what part of MASS? How old are you? Looks like we have the same diagnoses. I have only completed one cycle of AC, it's doable but everyone is different but 3rd day it wiped the floor with me burped, and then walked back over to tep on me again, OUCH!

     Again, we can get through this! Let's ALL kick Cancers ARSE ladies!!!!!

  • Issymom
    Issymom Member Posts: 264
    edited January 2010

    Nkrun- I am also a planner but you have me beat hands down.  I am having trouble with the unknown.  I start chemo (AC/T every other week) on Tuesday the 12th.  I typically handle medical issues fairly well (high pain threshold).  I have a hard time admitting vulnerabily.  I didn't worry during the initial diagnosis (mamo callback, US,  biopsy, etc..) because it was going to be nothing and it turned out to  be more than nothing but there are others much worse off than me.  I want to cry but everytime I do, I fight it back.  I have friends bringing dinner for the first 3 nights and I have all my prescriptions, etc... but what will I really need or want.  Again, the unknown is so unsettling.  I guess starting chemo is a good thing because after the next few days the unknown will be gone.

    Good luck to everyone this week.

  • pagowens
    pagowens Member Posts: 194
    edited January 2010

    Hi Issymom,

    I have the first chemo tomorrow the 12th as well and I am so looking forward to having the first one behind me, because the unknown is worse, I agree.  I took off tomorrow and Wednesday and I've schedule a full day at work on Thursday and now I'm worried based on chasinghope's experience.  I'll play it by ear.

    I am a little worked up this morning, however.  I am getting test fatigue...another test this afternoon for which I can't drink my one cup of morning coffee (hence a headache) and am already hungry again but can't eat.  I'm sick of the testing stuff and know that I've got a lot more to face.  In addition, I had taken time off from work this morming for the Am Cancer's Feel Good workshop - thought I'd get some good advice on moisturizers, etc. since I had to stop my stuff (has Vit A and C in it) and am not liking the Lubriderm, as rec by the onc nurse, for my face - too heavy.  Got to work early, got to the workshop at the nearby hosptial at 9:30, as scheduled....couldn't find the place, no signs, front desk didn't know...finally found it and....it was cancelled because no one was signed up (well, I was signed up).  arrgghh....ran back to work.  Am not wasting my time on that again.

    So, if any of you get to go to the American Cancer Society's workshop on "Feeling Good, Looking Good" could you ask the face moisturizer question and let me know?  No estrogen, no anti-oxigents, no vitamins in it.  Thanks,

    Pat

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2010

    Friscomom-sorry to hear about the cold.  Everyone around me has a cold and I have a weird feeling that I will get it sometime this week.  Cruise- what a great diversion. Good for you!

    Issymom-there was something about get a short haircut that made be feel invincible. It was so empowering. I think it had a lot to do with everyone telling me "you can't cut your hair without first getting a wig.  What will other people think?" The way I look at it, cutting my hair was my decision not cancers. I don't have control over much but damn it I have control over when my hair will be short.  Sorry venting a little frustration.

     I just hope I can feel invincible after the first chemo session, surgery, rads, and more chemo.

  • Issymom
    Issymom Member Posts: 264
    edited January 2010

    Pagowens - I will be thinking of you tomorrow.  What chemo are you taking.  Tomorrow I start 4 rounds of AC and then followed by 4 of Taxol (2 weeks apart).  Sorry you were not able to attend the Look Good Feel Good seminar.  I have wanted to go to it as well but have not checked to see when it is offered in Seattle.

    Nkrun - I am having a wig made from my own hair so I will have it completely shaved (YIKES) late next week.  I have a very large head (another thing inherited from my father besides the BRCA1 mutation) and off the shelf wigs would be too small.  I am hoping I get to the point where I feel empowered by doing this but right now it makes me so nervous.  What if I am the one person who wouldn't have lost their hair.  It's not worth taking the chance as I don't have another wig option.  Again, it is the fear of the unknown! 

    Good luck to all who start chemo this week!!

  • alkum22
    alkum22 Member Posts: 8
    edited January 2010

    I will be having my1st treatment tomorrow. I was dx nov '09, had a BLMX on 12/14 with my permanent implants placed. I will be having 4 rounds of T & C. I'm really nervous & afraid.

    I've been finding such good information on here for a few weeks & I thank you all for that.

    I just want this to be over so I can move on.

    Diagnosis 11/19/09 , IDC 2.3cm, stage ll, grade 2, 0/3 nodes, ER+ PR+ HER2-

  • 11tyBillion
    11tyBillion Member Posts: 96
    edited January 2010

    clocking in here at day 5 after chemo, and dudes, I have been feeling awful since yesterday.  I think I got it pinned down to not drinking enough water (I guess).  Got nauseous and didn't sleep last night either, and the Oncono. on call this weekend seemed to think that no sleep was that big of a deal and prescribed nothing .... whatever.  I called first thing this morning, and my Onco. Dr. wrote out a scrip for some sleep meds for tonight.  Took a compazine this morning, and had a huge poweraide, and a orange juice smoothie, and I conked out for almost 2 hours ... i almost feel better now.  SHeesh, I thought that I had been drinking enough water, but maybe I just kind of slacked off after days 4 and 5 because I was feeling so good and somewhat normal.  It kind of creeps me out to think that the chemo toxins are still in my system wrecking havoc.  Is it normal to have to still flush this much water through, these many days out?  just curious if anyone else has had this re-lapse kind of thing happen.

  • Cathy-CA
    Cathy-CA Member Posts: 686
    edited January 2010

    11ty -- Do you drink plain water?  While I doubt it would impact your sleep, pushing plain water can make your electrolytes get out of balance which can contribute to feeling icky.  I'm not a fan of sports drinks, so use SmartWater or the Trader Joe's version to make sure I'm still getting electroyltes.  That might be why getting the poweraide and smoothie in you helped.  Hope between that and the sleep meds that you are feeling better tomorrow.

    Alkum -- I'm sure your treatment tomorrow will go fine.  The unknown is scary, but once you've had one round you'll see it's okay.

    Issymom -- I think it's great that you are having a wig made of your own hair.  How much more natural can you get!

    Nkrun -- I had waist length hair last time I went through this.  Getting my hair cut short for the first time in 20 years was very empowering.  I felt like a different person and one that was ready to do battle. 

    Pagowens -- Sorry your Look Good, Feel Better seminar was canceled.  I did one last time and thought it was fun, but don't remember what moisturizer they said to use.  I have rosacea and I just continued using my rx cream. They have a website at http://www.lookgoodfeelbetter.org which might have that information.  It has instructions on it for cute ways to tie scarves if anyone is interested.  And, boy do I hear you on test fatigue.  Now that I'm Stage IV, I've discussed with my onc elimating a lot of tests and drs.  If she's doing a full body scan every three months why do I need mammos, breast ultrasounds, pap smears, etc.  She agrees completely, so I'm dropping most of my doctors and just using her.

    Friscomom -- hope you had a great cruise.  We have one planned for the end of May.  I'll still be in treatment, but my onc is okay with my traveling.  I love cruises.

    VegasDiva -- nice to hear you are feeling good.  There are definitely some people who go through chemo without many problems.  Hope you turn out to be one of them.

    BBD -- Yes, be careful on the heartburn. 

    Everyone else -- hope your treatments go well and you don't have many side effects.

  • 11tyBillion
    11tyBillion Member Posts: 96
    edited January 2010
    I just found this on another chemo board .... it was originally posted by ve1787 :

    I thought that all of us will get something special from it! 

    Attitude

    There once was a woman who woke up one morning, looked in the mirror, and noticed she had only 3 hairs on her head. "Well, she said, "I think I'll braid my hair today." So she did and she had a wonderful day.  The next day she woke up, looked in the mirror and saw that she had only 2 hairs on her head. "H-M-M", she said, "I think I'll part my hair down the middle today." So she did and she had a wonderful day. The next day she woke up, looked in the mirror and noticed that she had only one hair on her head. "well, she said, "today I'm going to wear my hair in a pony tail." So she did and had a wonderful day.  The next day she woke up, looked in the mirror and noticed that there wasn't a single hair on her head. "YAY"! she exclaimed. ""I don't have to do my hair today!"                   Attitude is everything!!

    heads up ladies!

    We are all on the road to wellness, TOGETHER!

  • 11tyBillion
    11tyBillion Member Posts: 96
    edited January 2010

    Hi ladies!

    I am going to try my best doing this, but I am going to attempt to make a list of everyone on the Jan 2010 chemo board .  If you go to some of the other boards, you can see that they do this, and it is a nice way to "see" everyone in the group.   I was hoping to have info like name, type of chemo regimen, date of start.  So like, mine would be

    11tyBillion -- AC (4 bi weekly) T (12xweekly) -- start January 6.

    something like that.

    If you all want to be listed just send me a private message with your info, and I will put it up!

  • chasinghope
    chasinghope Member Posts: 126
    edited July 2010

    Hello ladies,

    11tyBillion: I don't really know how to send a Private message came to this group late I hope not to late. I had a Bilateral Masectomy on 12/15 this year. Started chemo 01/07/10 4 cycles AC. I am 38 ER+PR+Her2- no port.No node involvement from sentitnal biopsy and no vascular invasion but an aggressive grade 3 tumor. 1.5 cm

    Can I ask a question to the whole board? Do you ladies feel comfortable drinking out of plastic bottles? I have done some reasearch on it. Leaching isn't to uncommon with all form of plastic bottles, especially spring water, gatorade, they're all made out of cheap plastic, actually graded the lowest quality plastc. Has anyone else noticed that glass and paper are being totally phased out? BPA is rampet in plastics, when it is broken down it creates something called environmental estrogen (not good) 

     Any thoughts?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2010

    chasinghope-I'm a freak about any kind of plastic. More so from an environmental standpoint than for health.  I do avoid drinking and eating from any plastic. My ND says to avoid eating, storing or heating food in plastic or Styrofoam to avoid hormonal stimulation.   I used to put drinking water in the sigg bottles but when sigg recently announced they contain BPA, I switched to stainless and glass. I am a earthy Californian so take my advice with a grain of salt.

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