Anyone Starting Chemo Jan. 2010?
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Wren, Glad that your first treatment was not traumatic and I hope you stay feeling good over the next couple days. I'm slated for my port tomorrow (am nervous and a snow storm is coming) and my first treatment is this coming Tuesday. I've been to the oncologist twice now and each time I walk into their very crowded waiting room, the fear in the air is palpable. I swear the first time I walked in the office up popped Psalm 23 (and I'm a lapsed Catholic) into my head: Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: For thou art with me. It freaked me out. I'm not looking forward to going back and spending lots of time there.
I must be going into some morbid fascination stage. At my work and at home I have a number of recent family photos around. I used to look at them and smile seeing my children, husband, etc. Now all I see is me and I think "Wow - I had cancer then and didn't know it" and look closer to see if I looked any different than I thought I did. I hope this stage passes.
I got a couple "sleep caps" in the mail today that I ordered to wear around the house when I'm bald. OK -- I hate them.
Ciao!
Pat
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I had my first treatment today of TC. Relatively easy, my only complaint is the metallic taste in my mouth. I had imagined all of these awful things last night, so I am hoping you can relax a little hearing wren22 and my day. I am not sure if our regime is like yours. I took 2 Tylenol PM to sleep last night. Best of luck on your first tx.
Barbara
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Day4 awful..headache,bloated,hiddeous taste in my mouth. Not nauseated just have no energy. this could be a very long 12 weeks!!! Maryanne
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Boy, lots of posts. I haven't read in a couple days and I have comments as I'm reading all of these posts, but it all fades away.
Pago: I can relate to looking at pictures and feeling sad. I went thru chemo the first time 2 1/2 yrs ago and I couldn't look at family pictures or pictures from my childhood at all. I had one picture of my grandmother and I sitting by her flower garden when I was about 10 th that I carried with me to tx's. Everything happened so fast from dx, to surgery, to chemo etc that I was on autopilot as I'm sure a lot of ladies on here are now. It wasn't until after tx was over that I was able to digest the rest of what happened and come to terms. Your mind goes on with time to digest things.
Anyway, bf is pestering me so gotta go. Wishing all the first timers this week good luck. Take a deep breath and know you can do it. Everything so far has always been worse before thinking about it.
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Major Vent Session Coming so look out:
This stupid decadron is keeping me awake tonight which is a bad combination with all the stressful things going on around here right now. I wasn't working when I got dx in dec because I had my baby the end of July and developed preclamsia which made the end part of pregnancy and first few months after grueling. So, at least I didn't have to deal with whether to go back to work.
But bf got laid off in dec now. We went about reactivating his unemployment but his employer is saying he was fired which I'm just stewing over tonight because we just got the notice from unemployment. They're giving us an opportunity to tell our side so I'm hoping that it will go through. His boss called the middle of dec and left a message on his phone saying the owners talked it over and decided to let him go because they don't have enough work to keep him on. Isn't that what being laid off means?? The message said he could call him (the boss) if he had questions but that was the day they told me if the spot on my liver was the cancer spreading that I have less than 2 years to live. So, you can imagine since we knew he was laid off that calling back wasn't on the forefront of priorities. So, I don't know if that's their angle on calling it being fired. I'm also kind of hurt by it too because its a small family owned business and my bf did things outside of work with them often and they know I have cancer. But my bf mentioned in the past that he got this vibe from them that they felt unemployment was wrong; like if you're not working you shouldn't be getting money. So, that pisses me off. Its fine if they feel that way, but that's not the law. They're very conservative religious people and I'm just confused by the whole thing.
So, we have no new money coming in and a never ending barrage of crap going wrong like I've never had in my entire life combined. I've had 2 tires blow out (the last one was on my way to my ct scan in -15 F weather...lovely) in the last couple months and had to buy new tires. I tried haggling with the tire place but they don't give a damn.
Our furnace hasn't worked right for over a month now. When it hits the temp we have it set at and stops, it sometimes won't start back up again so I have to get up twice during the night to make sure its still going and restart it if it isn't because I can't have the baby waking up in a freezing house. When we came back from being gone once it was 49 degrees in the house and the pipes were froze. So we had to buy heat tape, insulation and a little heater because they freeze up even with the furnace running once it gets lik -10 F outside which it has been for awhile now. We keep the tub dripping so we only have to run the heater before doing laundry now.
The heater in bf's truck went out a few days ago so we paid for that to get fixed. We had mold in our 2nd bathroom and ripped all the sheet rock and flooring out just to get it out. But we have no money to do anything else so the door is shut and it will sit like that until who the hell knows when.
If Bf actually gets a job right now then we'd have money but I can't take of myself and the baby during the next 6 months of chemo and a db mast.
I'm usually able to keep a good attitude but its late at night which is always a bad time for overeating and worrying excessively. I know tomorrow will be a better day. I don't know if anyone actually made it through reading this whole rant. I just needed to vent regardless. I know its not pleasant reading someone else rambling on endlessly about their problems as if you ladies don't have any of your own, or the rest of the world for that matter. Things can always be worse so I'll just move on.
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Hi Ladies -
I am another January Chemo newbie. Had a bi-lateral mast. on Nov 15 and am healed enough to start Chemo. Having a PICC line put in place on Jan 14, then start treatment on Jan 15. I will have 4 cycles of AC every three weeks followed by 12 weekly Taxol - so I am scheduled for 6 months. Sounds like a really long time. I have been reading this since the topic started - but I didn't write until I got my date yesterday. Thanks to all of you for sharing your ups and downs..it really helps others. I vow to do the same in case my experience might help anyone else.
Paxton - I read all of your post and some of it twice - just to make sure that all of that stuff could really be happening to one person! You poor thing - you deserve a little pity. You have a bunch of sucky stuff going on right now. I think your BF will get unemployment - losing your job because there isn't work is NOT being fired. Maybe you should write all of this stuff to Extreme Home Makeover and see if you can get Ty and the bus out to give you a new house! Sounds to me like you would be a great candidate. I used to live in the Twin Cities and I remember that cold... By the way - your baby is beautiful. Hope tomorrow brings warmer temps and a smooth day. Cammy
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Paxton-
Oh my, you must have strong shoulders for what you are carrying. Hang in there. It doesn't seem possible to have so much bad things working on it. Your BF should be eligibe for unemployment. Did his employer ask him to sign any waivers? Does he have any written documentation saying that they thought he was doing well at work? If so, he should bring this type of documetation to the hearing/submission. I don't know the unemployment rulings in MN but I think from what you say his case is there for collecting. Although collecting is still not full compensation. I like Cammy' s idea about Extreme Makeover.
Yesterday was my first treatment and I have been up since 3 AM so I know what the middle of the nights thoughts can do. It is good to get them out of your head on paper. So rant away.
That said, give your baby a big hug and kiss this morning. It can help diminish the blues the best way I know. My thoughts are with you. Hang in there.
Barbara
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Hi Paxton,
You are having a very rough time - rougher than mine. I'm so sorry - hugs. Can you reach out to family members for some emotional or financial support and help?
Have you talked to your social services department in your area (connected to the Workforce Investment Board that has federal funding to help unemployed find work)? Every state names their social services departments differently, here in NJ it's called the Department of Human Services. They have offices called One Stop Centers in every local county. The problem with your bf's company's charge that he was fired is that it will delay the benefits as you go through a hearing. You will be okay - even if they can prove being fired, it delays unemployment 3 months, not forever. That's the federal law. So think in terms of a 3-month plan. Plus there is an "Obama" extra payment for the unemployed he'll be eligible for. And, I would check out Social Security for you - you might be eligible for SSID. With your child, you're eligible for WIC which helps with formula, milk, food, diapers, and your child absolutely should be covered under the state-run children's insurance program for free. You are both probably eligible for that, too. All this information can be found at your county's social services department. You gotta go and find out what you're eligible for and ask for help. That's what all us taxpayers (including you and him) are paying for and you certainly can use some financial and other help right now. And, if any of your friends know anyone who works for that department and/or the state's department of labor - they'll help you figure out what can be a complicated system.
I would reach out to my church or a local church and see what social services they have available too. For example, Catholic Social Services has some support programs in times like this. The Salvation Army in our area is wonderful -- very supportive and helpful to people facing a rough time. You're facing this rough time thru no fault of your own - ask for and accept whatever help is around in your area.
I work at a community college and very closely with our local Workforce Investment Board and One Stop Center. If you want to talk, send me a private message with your number and I'll call you and see what I can find out for your area -- who to call, where to go.
You certainly don't need this cr-p with everything else. I'm so sorry - but sometimes when it rains it pours...but it doesn't pour forever.
Pat
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My brain is on overload right now but I want to wish you all luck and I am so glad to have all you you for your encouraging words and insight. Even rants and raves help! I think right now it is toughest on my family. So dealing with that right now is tough. I get my port and chemo all on Monday. I would like to know for those who have already started when did you hair start to fall out and when did you start to feel you worst? How long did it last and how were the other consecutive treatments. Th anks so much!
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Re: bad taste in mouth...check into the Biotene products. They make a mouthwash, toothpaste, gum and gel. They are intended for dry mouth and that's part of what you are experiencing. Also, try experimenting a bit to find out what covers the taste for you. When I went through chemo last time, mints were my friend most of the time. I sucked a lot of TicTacs and Mentos to cover the taste. That was the only way I could drink enough water some days. Stick a mint in my mouth and then drink the water while my mouth still tasted of mint. I found sweet spices were better than salty or spicy, so ate cinnamon cereal, cinnamon raisin bagel, etc. By the second week (I was on a three week cycle), I could handle plain food like mashed or baked potatoes, grilled chicken, broccoli. For me, most seasonings (especially salt) seemed amplified so plain went down better.
Paxton -- you've been given some excellent suggestions, but let me add a couple more. The Susan G. Komen Foundation offers aid to women going through treatment. I would contact your local chapter and see if you can qualify. Also, check with the social worker at the hospital where you are receiving treatment. These people have a lot of great information at their fingertips.
Decadron sleeplessness if not uncommon. I ended up only doing half doses for most of my chemo because I wasn't having any negative reactions and the steroids just made me too wired. Check with your onc and see. I would encourage all of you to talk to your oncs or nurses about any problems you are having. There are a lot of options and you don't need to tough it out.
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11tyBillion, so how did it go? what kind of chemo did you get? I am triple neg too and was just curious!
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HI! I start CMF on January 11th. I'm not finding a lot of people on CMF, so that's making it hard to find out more specific information. My course of treatment is IV CMF for 6 months every 3 weeks. Is CMF unusual? My breast cancer was 8mm, ER positive, PR negative, Her2-neu negative, BRCA test negative, ONCO score intermediate at 18 (hence, the chemo). I had a partial mastectomy on December 15th and will undergo radiation after the 6 months of chemo is done and then will take tamoxifen for 5 years...followed by something else I'm sure! Any personal experiences you want to share with CMF are more than welcome!
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Just a note. I had my first treatment on Thursday and so far I am still feeling fine.
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So my roller coaster ride has stopped it's free-fall descent. Paxton, I am praying that your's stops soon. I went to see a cardiologist yesterday after spending 2 days feeling like breast cancer was the least of my problems. He not only calmed me down but reran the tests and found that I have a perfectly healthy heart.
It turns out that a combination of my anesthesia from surgery the week before, plus too much wine over the holidays gave me a depressed heart function during the echo. Apparently it was a transient event. I couldn't be happier to just be dealing with breast cancer now. There's something about perspective that makes you realize how worse things could be.
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Merilee, that is great you are feeling great!
georgiabirdgirl, I am so happy to here your heart is fine! woo hoo one more battle one over this war!!
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a quick post. Had my first round on Wenesday. Felt fine for a few hours afterward, they gave me zofran, and decadron, with my treatment (AC). i did not feel nausea until about 10 that night, although I was taking emend, deximethizone (?), and compezine. We ended up calling and getting the compezine suppositories, which kicked tha nausea right out! the compezine suppositories are 2.5 times stronger than the tablets I was taking .. .and almost immediate relief.
got my nulatsa shot the day after, have not noticed any big bone pain, been sleeping a lot since. been feeling really tense today though, and a little amped up this morning. I thikn I am just in need of a nap.
I must be the most easily nauseated person in the world, because none of you guys seem to be going through this :-).
more later! time for zzzzzzz'z.
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I had my first TCH tx on Thurs 1/7 and am still doing fine. I have the lidocaine cream but didn't give it enough time to work, so I still felt the spike. Port had been in exactly one month but hadn't been used at all, so it took some time (about 20 minutes) to flush the port and drain the stagnant fluids that were there before fresh blood could be drawn for CBC and saline fluid started.
My premeds were: 1 tylenol pill and benadryl, decadron, anzimed and pepcid, each one being 15 minutes through the port. I took the Day 1 dose of emend when the premeds started. Contrary to those of you wired by the decadron, my benadryl was first and it knocked me out half way through. I basically slept through it all, except I kept having to get up to pee - about 6 times.) I don't know the order of the decadron and anzimed but I know the pepcid was last because it was the only one still hanging when the Taxotere came. They started that on a drip rate of 50 so they could see if I had any reaction but I didn't and at some point the drip rate increased to 100. This took 2 hours but they said next time would be 1 hour. Carboplatin was next for 1 hour, then one hour of herceptin. Lastly, a few minutes to inject heparin into the port so it doesn't get clotted.
I went to work on Friday (day 2). After work I went for my Neulasta shot, then went to visit my dad for dinner. He lives in CT, about 1.5-2hrs depending on traffic. DH drove and I napped. After dinner we went to my brother's house (about 5 mins away). On the way home, we stopped at my inlaws in Yonkers. The CT/Yonkers trip is a weekly event for us, but almost always on the weekend. I chose to go Friday in anticipation of crashing on Day 3 as many have reported. Well it is 1:30 on Day 3 and I am still "fine".
I took advice from those before me - drinking my water, eating protein, taking claritin, taking emend as scheduled (last dose this morning) and other meds as needed as soon as any sign shows up so that I stay ahead. I think my only SEs right now are constipation and chapped lips
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Hi Ladies:
I have been reading everyone's posts. Sometimes when it rains, it pours doesn't it? You just keep thinking things can't get worse, but somehow they do. In the end hopefully all will work out, it usally does.
I just want to give people hope that it is not all doom and gloom. Actually after the first 3 days, which really weren't THAT bad, I have felt great. I'm bummed I have to go back to work on Monday. I'm enjoying my time off.
The first time I had chemo 6 years ago I couldn't sleep from the decadron either. Duh..., this time I took an Ambien the first 3 nights and slept like a baby. That is what the wonderful world of pharmacology is all about. I even asked my onc about medical marijuana, but seems they are "afraid" to prescribe it. Damn, there could have been one positive note to this whole thing. ;-)
I had bloodwork yesterday and all my numbers were good. My doc told me they like to give the Neulasta prophylactically rather than wait till your numbers plummit and you are too weak to bounce back.
Yeah, I have a slight metallic taste or I might have some aches and pains, but why focus on the small stuff? A year from now this will all be behind us.
My next hurdle will be my hair falling out. I'm deading that day. I have my wig standing by but don't want to use it. I bought a couple of those sleep caps too, and don't like them either, but will want to keep my head warm and probably won't want to look at what is left.
Try to stay positive and take it baby steps at a time.
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Georgia: so glad to hear about your heart test. What a huge huge relief.
Judy: there are a lot of different combos of chemo and yes, the one you're getting isn't one of the more common ones (which doesn't mean anything for effectiveness so don't worry that way). You might want to post your own topic on the chemo thread asking for others who've had experience with that combo to connect to. Otherwise, it seems there are a lot more combos (and people) in our Jan group than when I went through before that you will still get plenty of support.
11tybill: you're totally normal with the nausea. AC hits pretty good with the nausea, fatigue and living on clear liquids. It can be frustrating when you feel like other people doing the same tx don't have the same effects. But you'll find some are much worse than you and so its worthless to always compare. Just spend the time dealing with life.
I didn't have much problem with those neulasta shots when I went through chemo before (ACT). If anything, I took a tylenol once or twice. When I got hospitalized with low wbc, I had the neupogen shot every day for several days which is the like getting a neulasta shot every day instead of just after a tx. I did have some bone pain from that but it wasn't unbearable even with that. But everyone is different so if the pain is bad, get something for it and don't ever feel like a wimp. We shouldn't waste our time feeling bad about anything.
Good luck everybody!!
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The texture of my hair is getting gummy and my scalp is starting to feel tender so the hair loss is nearing. Nothing is coming out yet. I'm deciding between putting a guard on the shaver and shaving it down to an inch or two before I shave it all off later.
My experience with the hair loss from the first time I went through chemo was my hair getting gummy (almost like really greasy with a different texture) about 2 weeks after my first tx. I had gotten my hair cut shorter before starting tx because I had pretty long hair and wanted a little transition. Anyway, then small clumps started coming out and I decided to use a shaver and shave it off because it felt so disgusting. I wore a wig a few times but found it uncomfortable so I mostly wore a turban with a bandana. I wore a hair "fall" under that if I went out with friends or such. My scalp was very tender and so I read somewhere about taking a real razor and shaving the scalp one time. I decided to do that and it really helped. I didn't have to do that again so I don't know what the deal is with it. But it worked for me anyway.
Oh, I always just get a little shot of lidocain in the skin on my port before they access it. It stings a little from the lidocain shot, but I've found it quite tolerable. I've never done it without the shot so I dont' know how much it hurts accessing the port without anything. I know some use the cream but I don't know much about how well that works compared to the lidocain shot. Anyway, just my 2 cents.
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So much stuff pops in my mind. If you end up not being able to eat solid foods and get diarrhea, eating broth with some rice, bananas, and toast are the best options to bulk up your stool. So much other stuff has the opposite effect so it gets confusing, but rice is a great bulker and bananas are a nice filler your stomach can usually handle. And of course jello is always a standard.
If you're constipated, Miralax can be safely used during chemo vs the other laxatives.
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Thought I'd share a few photos. Makes it easier to get to know each other.
This first one was the turban with bandana look I wore that I was describing.
This was what I looked like when I shaved my head during my first chemo in '07.
This is me, my boyfriend and our new baby this past summer.
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paxton, thanks for sharing the info and pics. Your baby is so cute. Boy, girl?
You are so young. I'm 57, to me that seems old, the docs say it is young, but you are really young as maybe a lot of these women are. I can't even imagine what it must be like to have to take care of a baby right now while going through this.
I know the BRAT diet very well. I eat a lot of white rice and al dente pasta. "healthy" whole foods wreak such havoc on my digestive tract.
How long did it take for your hair to get to the length in the last pic?
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wow super cute, Paxton18064! I hope I look that good! You got preggo with no complications after being on chemo?
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Glad to "hear" from you 11ytbillion~ So they gave you AC? I think that is what I will be having Monday. How long will you have to have it?
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Bostonscrap: I'm in MA too.
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Renrel: Thanks for the great pep talk!
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Its a little boy.
I wasn't trying to get prego. I had finished rads in march of '08. We were using condoms for birth control because they didn't want me on anything hormones and I wasn't too sure about that copper IUD thing. Well, we had one woops the night after I shot my first deer deerhunting. That's all it took to get prego. He was born july 29th. And now the cancer is back. So he was a miracle baby in many ways. My only babe, too. Now I went for the copper IUD for birth control.
My hair in the picture with the baby is, like I said, July 29th of '09. I was done with chemo 12/07 and let it grow without getting it cut since. So, that's how long it got. It takes awhile to get long, long again, but it grows out of the peach fuzz stage pretty quickly.
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Well congrats! He is a cutie!! Where you triple neg last time to? If you don't mind me asking?
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Georgiabirdgirl, so glad about your heart!!!
11tybillion, I have so much trouble with nausea also. Your post has given me much information to talk to the doctor about.
Port goes in Tuesday. Start AC on Jan 20.
Paxton, where are you from in Minnesota. I grew up in Oakdale. My father lives in Minneapolis. You have given me hope. Your willingness to share your past experiences is so helpful.
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