Single VS Double Masectomy

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GrandmaMickey
GrandmaMickey Member Posts: 41

How many of you decided for a double masectomy even though cancer was only found in one breast?  Trying to make that decision and it's definitely a hard one.  Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

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  • NativeMainer
    NativeMainer Member Posts: 10,462
    edited January 2010

    I didn't choose to have a double mastectomy, but I am going to have the remaining breast removed and both reconstructed this coming summer.  I started out with the lumpectomy/rads approach, got so much rads damage that the breast started rotting off and hurting all the time, so I had a mast to stop the pain.  Since I can't deal with the idea of an implant (I just had something foreign removed, why would I put something foreign back in?) and belly fat can only be used once.  So, if I get righty lopped off and remade along with lefty, I won't have to worry about developing the beast in righty and not having any recon options that appeal to me.  I don't want to give up muscles for boobs, so DIEP is my choice.  Unexpected benefit--no more annual mammogram and then stick needles  in the "suspicious" or "concerning" spots horror sessions and a less than 5% chance of having to go through this again. 

    My biggest regret is not having had a mastectomy from the get-go.

  • baywatcher
    baywatcher Member Posts: 532
    edited January 2010

    Are you getting reconstruction?

  • mommy4585
    mommy4585 Member Posts: 2
    edited January 2010

    As you can see, I am really new to all this so I don't know how much help I will be.  But,,, I had two lobular tumors in my right breast and nothing in my left that showed up on mammogram, at least.  I am a big weenie with pain so after my sugeon told me that my type cancer is the kind that spreads to the other breast, I opted for the bilateral radical mastectomy.  I won't kid you.  The pain was worse than I had expected, the scars are horrendous, but I am doing better every day.  Just had my surgery 12/22/09 so I feel like I am making excellent progress.  I am very glad that I made the decision for a double mastectomy.  Now I don't feel like I have to "keep looking over my shoulder".  I am looking forward to reconstructive surgery later on.  I am supposed to find out pathology results, etc. when I go to the Dr. in the morning.  Wish me luck.  :O) Good luck to you!

  • karen_in_nj
    karen_in_nj Member Posts: 59
    edited January 2010

    I had a single mastectomy and really regret that I didn't have a double. I will probably go back and have the other breast removed some time this year. Like mommy4585 I also had lobular carcinoma, which has a higher rate of recurrence in the other breast, and is difficult to see on a mammogram. Also, my breasts (ok, now breast) are large - D cup, and for the past couple of months I've been having back pain, I think from the heavy prosthesis. It's a tough decision to make, I wish I'd asked for feedback before I had my surgery!

  • Kyta
    Kyta Member Posts: 713
    edited January 2010

    I had a mastectomy Dec 11 for invasive BC. The surgeon suggested having both removed because the biopsy also showed a possibility of LCIS/atypical hyperplasia and he explained the higher risk of geting BC in my good boob. Anyway, at the time I was pretty overwhelmed and didn't like dealing with the 'possibilities' based on the biopsy results and chose to wait until my surgery pathology results to know for sure what I'm dealing with. The surgeon reassured me that he could always remove the other breast if I change my mind, so I'm happy with my decision so far.

    I know it's a hard decision, and wish you didn't have to make it. Whatever you decide will be the right choice for you.

  • badger
    badger Member Posts: 34,614
    edited March 2011

    Edited to redact a post with personal information.

  • cgs19
    cgs19 Member Posts: 4
    edited January 2010

    Hi there, only you can decide what is best for, but like you....I asked a lot of "boobie buddies" why they decided to have or not have mastectomies.  My findings indicated that there were no women that regretted having them, but many wish they would have.  I opted to do both since I also had lobular.  My surgeon was wonderful and agreed to my request to remove both.  After the surgery he told me that the path report showed LCIS in the "good breast".  I have not opted for reconstruction because it does not make sense to me.  I look at my "cutlets" (this is the term my daughters and I use for my prosthestics) as another article of clothing.

  • ailenroc
    ailenroc Member Posts: 308
    edited January 2010

    I asked the same question a 1.5 years ago, utterly distressed and confused, and then decided after much research, 8 doctor's consultations, and 2 months of soul searching on a bilateral although I was a prime candidate for lumpectomy and mastectomy was "not even an option for me" according to some doctors. I documented my decision-making process and rationale in the post below: with pros-cons lists, research links, statistical risk reduction with mx over lumpectomy, preparation for surgery, and information about how to deal with the immediate aftermath. Hope the information is helpful to you.

    Bilateral or Unilateral Mastectomy? Implant risks?

    http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/44/topic/708419?page=1

    If the links don't work, just paste the title into the search window and it'll come up.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2010

    Hi

    I have also decided on bilateral even though my PILC is only on the one breast, for now.  Like so many others, I agonized over this, before coming to my decision.  My reason being that my journey started last March, and I have been on a continual roller coaster ride of biopsy, MRI, ultrasound, mammogram etc since then. In 9 months I have had 5 mammograms,2 ultrasounds, 4 MRIS, 1 stereotactic biopsy, 1 incisional surgery and 1 excisional surgery, almost all of them 900 miles from home. 

    During that time, I have climbed the "lobular ladder".  I was diagnosed with ALH-March,        LCIS-June, PLCIS-October, PILC-November. On a MRI that was done in September, there is already something that has shown up, BIRAD 3 requiring follow up in 6 months.  That would have brought me to March and would likely being starting this all over again.  No Thank You! Lobular cancers tend to go to both breasts, and I don't want to be doing this all over again.

    It is a very difficult decision, and everyone has to do what is right for them and only them.  You will make the right decision.

    Cathy

  • kcl65
    kcl65 Member Posts: 1,156
    edited January 2010

    I asked the same question you are asking 7 months ago. I too decided to have a bilateral and I do not regret it. I had something suspicious show up in the other breast In the MRI and that was it for me.  I did not want to spend my life in fear and as someone so aptly put it looking over my shoulder.  [It turns out the suspicious thing was a papiloma (spelling???)]. 

    It is definitely not an easy decision and one only you can make as you have to live with it.  I wish you much wisdom and peace as you make this decision and I really believe you will make the right one for you!! Best wishes to you!

  • cammy2
    cammy2 Member Posts: 42
    edited January 2010

    I can only say what was right for me- don't feel pressured by the number of responses to one way or the other- just listen to what is right for you. 

    For me I chose a bi-lateral (surgery was Nov 20th) Had inputs from others - no one with bi=lateral was sorry.  3 people with singles wish they had done bilateral- each for a different reason.  Reason1 - the worry about BC showing up in the other side, Reason 2 - She felt like her natural side and her reconstructed side carried differently - although it looked fine, she could always tell they laid differently on her body (example when exercising, etc. . Reason 3 - the lady was not having reconstruction and the prosthesis didn't match weight of natural breast and it was always hot, etc.

    For me - I had ILC (Lobular) and it took them 5 years or more to find it...so I didn't trust that they would find it in my other breast.  They said I had a 30% chance or so.  I am satisfied with my choice and reconstruction shoud be able to give me a matched set - when I get through with chemo!

     Good luck in your choice.

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited January 2010

    Mickey, you asked who here has decided to have a bilateral when only a single mastectomy was necessary, so the women who've answered up to this point are those who've made that decision.

    Since the responses so far are one-sided, I wanted to post just to let you know that there are many of us who've chosen to have a single mastectomy only - and are happy about it.  That was my decision 4 years ago and I've never regretted it; I'm glad that I still have one natural breast (and the natural feeling and sensation).  The way I thought about it, I'm high risk for other types of cancer and I can't remove all the body parts where I'm at risk, so why remove my healthy breast? I also know that I would have been very upset with myself if I'd removed my other breast and it turned out to be completely healthy (as all the pre-surgery tests had indicated).  But that's how I see things.  As the others have said, this is a very personal decision and only you can know what's right for you.  There are pros and cons on both sides and you have to weigh which of those are most important to you. 

  • lexislove
    lexislove Member Posts: 2,645
    edited January 2010

    Mickey,

    I also just wanted to add to the "other side". Im younger than you, 32, but I have had a single mastectomy.

    Believe me , I went back and forth..back and forth. Bottom line, I asked my oncologist what MY chances of developing another breast cancer in the opposite breast were....and he said 20-30% lifetime risk. So, 70-80% I will never have to deal with this again.

    Ive also decided to do other things to help reduce my chances of cancer again. So regular exercise, finally get off the extra weight, no alcohol, mostly a plant based diet. Will it make a difference? I hope so. There seems to be a lot of info pointing to living a healthy lifestyle and developing cancer.

    I must add though, if I was diagnosed with TN (triple negative BC) previous ILC BC or tested positive for either BRCA gene... I would opt for a double mastectomy.

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited January 2010

    Mickey, I had multicentric lobular bc on one side, and I chose to do a single mast. with Diep recon.  My doctors at a major hospital that is known for its aggressive treatment didn't think a bi-lateral was necessary, and I'm completely happy with my decision. I was grateful to be able to retain feeling in one breast, which you lose, along with the nipple, with a mast., and I'm very happy with my reconstruction.  I pay a lot of attention to nutrition and exercise, as my way of doing everything I can to hopefully avoid a reocurrence on my "good" side.

    As the others have said, there is no right or wrong answer to this question.  It just comes down to what you feel is right for you, so that you can move forward with the most peace of mind.  I think for this decision I also resorted to writing down a of list of priorities, positives & negatives, which helped me to get a better grasp of what was most important to me.     Deanna

  • keno41
    keno41 Member Posts: 91
    edited January 2010

    Mickey,

     Funny , for me, it was a very easy decision. I absolutely, positively did not want to go through this again. I know there are no guarantees, but I feel that by choosing to have both off, I won't have to worry about "iffy" mammograms and my "dense" breasts.  I am a worrier and feel that I've eliminated a big risk. It's only been 4 months, but have never thought twice about it.

  • GrandmaMickey
    GrandmaMickey Member Posts: 41
    edited January 2010

    I am planning reconstruction - just don't know what kind yet - PS appt is 1-20-10 - having trouble scheduling with my breast surgeon so I've asked for a 2nd opinion from UCSF large cancer center in San Francisco where I get my chemo - drive 150 miles each way but it's worth it

  • GrandmaMickey
    GrandmaMickey Member Posts: 41
    edited January 2010

    thank you so much for the link - it is helping a lot - I guess the bottom line is I need to talk to the surgeons to see what "they" have planned and see if I agree with it.  The BS office talks about "no change in outcome" for women who have bilateral vs unilateral since she states it is a different cancer that will go to the "healthy" breast.  I'm not sure that is correct - more research is needed - since mine is invasive ductal carcinoma vs lobular, does it make a difference?

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited January 2010

    What your doctor said is correct - it is very rare for breast cancer to recur in the other breast.  If there is a recurrence, it is either a "local" recurrence, i.e. in the same breast, or a "distant" recurrence, which is the same as metastisis and means that the cancer has moved to other parts of the body (bones and liver being primary locations).  If someone has BC and then gets BC again in the other breast, it almost always is a new primary breast cancer, unrelated to the first occurance.

    This is why removing your second breast will not have any impact on your current diagnosis or prognosis.  Even having a single mastectomy doesn't have any impact on survival rates because it's not breast cancer in the breast that causes death; it's breast cancer that has moved outside of the breast that eventually becomes fatal.  So for those who have large areas of invasive cancer, or an aggressive cancer, or lymph node involvement, the concern is not the cancer in the breast but the concern is that some cancer cells may have escaped the breast and moved into the body before the surgery to remove the cancer in the breast.  This is why, for those who require chemo, chemo is given whether or not one has a mastectomy or a bilateral mastectomy.  The role of chemo is to chase down any cancer cells that may have moved from the breast into the body before the cancer was removed from the breast.

    Hope that's clear!

  • GrandmaMickey
    GrandmaMickey Member Posts: 41
    edited January 2010

    Yes - thanks - so I guess that is why they put me on Chemo prior to my surgery - the reasoning behind that as I was told was to shrink the initial cancer and to prevent mets - if they do the surgery first it delays chemo and cells can spread - so I'm back to thinking maybe a single is enough but I am such the worry wort!  If I can get BC in one, will I get it in the other, same type or another?  I must say I have not been the best to my body, but it doesn't seem to matter that much.  I've spoken to many BC patients that have been vegetarian/exercise nut, etc all their life and they still got it - Our dream is to find the reasons behind it and the CURE!!!  I may never meet any one you but I want to thank you all for being there for me.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited January 2010

    Unless you are absolutely sure that this is what you want to do, I would NOT have a healthy breast removed. Once you do, you are stuck forever with the decision. Unless you have genetic abnormalities, your risk of reoccurrence is not that great, and besides it can still come back anyway but then it would be in the chest wall. A mastectomy is major surgery and carries risks of its own. My cousin had a double mastectomy even though the cancer was one side, and has had trouble with her 'good' side ever since. Most surgeons will be 'neutral' on this subject, but remember the more stuff they cut off, the more money they make. If you are on the fence; don't do it!

  • Issymom
    Issymom Member Posts: 264
    edited January 2010

    I think that Beesie said it correctly.  The double Mastectomy does not have any impact on the "CANCER YOU HAVE".  It is a personal decision.  I am Triple Negative and had chosen to have a lumpectomy, however, I then found out I was BRCA1+.  That really changed everything as my chance of a new primary was extremely high.  I was prepared to fight this once but knew I would regret not having a bi-lat mx if I got bc again.  I am 4 weeks out of surgery and don't regret it at all given my personal diagnosis and history.  It was not an easy decision but one I am content with.

  • GrandmaMickey
    GrandmaMickey Member Posts: 41
    edited January 2010

    Thank you all for your comments.  I have an appt with a different BS on 1-26-10 and will discuss with him all my options.  Then I will have to make the decision weighing all the options - Boy oh boy - this is gonna be a tough one -

  • CharlestonGirl
    CharlestonGirl Member Posts: 161
    edited January 2010

    I chose to have a double mastectomy after my 2nd Dx of IDC (both in the right breast). First time (2006) was RADS + lumpectomy. In '08 I was diagnosed with sclerosing papilloma on the left side (benign but worrisome, so it was removed). In Jan '09 MRI found a 4mm recurrance. By this time, both nipples were rendered numb by the excisions. I also had extremely dense breasts, with fibercystic condition that made things very hard to read. I wanted to throw up when my radiologist called me with the news, but after everything sunk in I determined that I really wanted to put an end to all the angst of annual mammograms, ultrasounds and MRIs. I asked my docs, got several opinions and was told by all docs that my request (BMx) was a very justifiable option.

    I also requested immediate reconstruction and ended up having SGAP since there was not enough tummy fat for DIEP. Previous RADS made implants a less attractive option and I wouldn't have gone that route anyway after seeing what my mom went through with hers. I just finished my 2nd stage of surgery in November (where they created NIPS and did contouring).

    I have no regrets. I went in knowing that this was what my body needed. Final pathology showed LCIS in the right breast, which as ya'll know is a warning flag indicating increased risk for bilateral cancer. No more mammograms for me (yay!) but the MRIs will continue (sigh) due to that darn LCIS.

    On the plus side I have marvelous new perky ta-ta's, a butt lift and I am looking forward to 2010 and beyond - cancer free!

  • chele
    chele Member Posts: 1,465
    edited January 2010

    I had a bilateral mastectomy with no reconstruction.  I didn't want to deal with having to wear one prosthetic. I didn't trust that the "new" boob would match the other if I had reconstruction. I didn't want to worry about the other breast developing breast cancer.   I wanted to be bra free! 

    The one thing I would do over if I could is ask more questions of my surgeon before surgery.  I opted for no reconstruction, in my mind I thought that was clear enough.  Well, he gave me "bra stops", I assume it's because he assumed I would be wearing prosthetics. Too much assuming!  Now I don't look right in T-shirts and I'm considering revision when I'm done with chemo.

  • CharlestonGirl
    CharlestonGirl Member Posts: 161
    edited January 2010

    What are bra stops?

    A friend of mine also requested BMx with no reconstruction. So they did not do the skin-sparing kind and now, two years out, she really wants reconstruction and will now require additional skin grafting if she does pursue this route. 

    For me, even though one of my breasts was radiated with the initial Dx and I opted for bilateral mastectomy this time, my breasts don't match 100%, but they actually match better than they did before I ever had cancer and certainly a better match since I had radiation. And that is pretty cool!

    My plastic surgeon said that recon following a BMx gives better cosmetic results that doing recon at different times (if that were to be necessary for the future).

    See if this helps: write down all your options - single mast, bilateral mast, with and without reconstruction, write down all the plus and minuses. How do you feel after you read each of these? Ask your body what it wants - I know this sounds cheesy! But when I personally did this I felt a sense of confidence and hope when I thought about the option I ultimately chose. What was interesting was, on my first follow-up with my onc, he told me that he recommended this same process to his patients, because a lot of success in fighting a disease depends on your mind in addition to treating the body.

    Good luck with your decision!

  • encoremom
    encoremom Member Posts: 186
    edited January 2010

    I thought I'd offer my thoughts as well.  This is a very personal decision and even though it's tough, you should do what YOU are comfortable with given your situation.  I had two small tumors in my left breast and opted for a bilateral MX.  My reasons were because I had multiple tumors in one breast so I knew I wanted the mastectomy there.  I had large breasts so a reduction on the right side probably would have been needed anyway, my breasts were dense and mammos were hard to read AND I have a strong family BC history.  My BS didn't recommend anything. He gave me the facts and options and told me it was my decision.  He didn't bat an eye when I told him I wanted them both removed.  I liked that.   It turned out that my right breast was clear of cancer, but I have had absolutely no regrets.  Take in all of this and think about what your inner voice is telling you.  Best wishes on your decision! 

  • juliempw
    juliempw Member Posts: 383
    edited January 2010

    You've heard from plenty but thought I'd chime in.  I opted for double even though mine was only in one breast, I had no lymph involvement, it was not considered aggressive because I'm 34 I have two small children to raise and I don't want to have any doubt.  I've been happy with my decision and don't see myself ever looking back and questioning it.  I don't like it, but I don't question it, it was right for me.

    Julie 

  • JustmeAlicia
    JustmeAlicia Member Posts: 1,529
    edited January 2010

    I had both breasts removed.  I knew I had bc in the one breast.  When they did the mri before my surgery ~ they saw something in the other breast.  They wanted to biopsy it when I was under for my one side MX.  I opted for both.  I was larger breasted.  And knew I would only be able to get rebuilt to about a b or small c cup.  Plus for me it was the anxiety of what if on the other side.  I have never regretted it once.  My final pathology report showed atypical hyperplasia and apocrine medaplasia.  Both of which are precursors for a higher risk of breast cancer developing.  So for me it was the right thing to do.  It is a very personal decision and you must feel comfortable with whatever you decide.  I know many girls that just do the one and then if they feel they want the other off they have gone back in and done just that.

    Good luck to you with your decision.

  • GrandmaMickey
    GrandmaMickey Member Posts: 41
    edited January 2010

    Ok, next question to all my sisters:  What was your recovery time?  Did having a bil MX extend your recovery extensively?  How many had immediate reconstruction vs delayed reconstruction?  Did you have TRAP or DIEP or implants?  My oh my - the choices abound

  • Boo307
    Boo307 Member Posts: 222
    edited January 2010

    Your decision may be influenced by the prevailing thought in your part of the country.  A  Dartmouth study found that the majority of women in the Northeast and West chose lumpectomies, but if they lived in the South, Midwest, and Northwest they more offer went with mastectomy, see pg 143 http://www.dartmouthatlas.org/atlases/96Atlas.pdf for the map.  In interviews researchers found that in some areas doctors felt strongly about mastectomies and didn't even mention that the women could have a lumpectomy!

    A fascinating Dartmouth study asked surgeons in their own hospital the hypothetical question as to what they would decide for themselves if faced with early stage breast cancer and had a choice of lumpectomy or mastectomy.  Half choice one and half chose the other!  See http://www.acponline.org/clinical_information/journals_publications/ecp/julaug99/collins.pdf

    I chose lumpectomy because it is less extensive surgery and I achieve the same survival rate as mastectomy and know that there is a 90% chance that I will never need a mastectomy sometime in the future.  With mastectomy I would only have a 1% chance of a local recurrence.  By the way there are threads on this site of those 1%ers dealing with cancer recurring after mastectomy. 

    Like you I am hormone negative and HER2 positive, so my biggest risk, about 15%, is that the cancer will metastize.  So I am focusing my thoughts and energy on lifestyle changes to reduce that risk since it is my biggest concern; reducing my weight to normal, exercising most days of the weak, only drinking wine on special occasions, and reducing stress in my life. 

    Best wishes and after giving the decision such careful thought, I'm sure you will be happy with your decision. 

    Betsy

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