I miss having feeling in my boobs!!!!
Hello Ladies......been a REALLY long time since I posted anything (guess that's a good thing, that maybe I'm "moving on"????) I am 2 years and 3 months post bilateral mastectomy with implant reconstruction. I am VERY happy with my results, PS did a fabulous job. I got nipples, but not tattoos (yet--still debating).
I'm wondering if anyone can relate to this.....during my BC journey and recon journey, I was so focused on getting through it and how the new girls were going to "look". Well, like I said, everything looks great! BUT----I think the thing that no one prepares us for is how we're going to FEEL with new boobs that we cannot feel at ALL. No sensation whatsoever (except a little on the sides). I miss my nipples (and okay, I'll admit it...didn't realize how much I enjoyed my husband touching them during sex until now I don't have any). Husband is fine with everything...but I'm still self-conscious. I don't like how they feel "cold" when I take off my bra...especially now with the cold weather. And I don't like that "numb" feeling when someone does bump me or husband touches them. I just miss having the old pair (even though they weren't that great after nursing 3 babies!) But its just the fact that it really is an amputation...and definitely affects ones psyche. Am I just totally off my rocker, or does anyone else feel this way too?
I don't regret the surgery though....it beats worrying more than I already do about recurrence and having to go for mammos every 6 months!
thanks in advance!
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I can totally relate! I had a bilateral mastectomy on November 5th of this year with immediate reconstruction with TE. I was having a routine mammogram because I was turning 40. I had to have a mastectomy on the right side because of over 3cm of high grade DCIS and am small chested. I also had a small invasive tumor along with the DCIS. The doctor found something suspicious on the left side and because of that I decided to go with a bilateral mastectomy. I am also married and have 3 children.
I feel like now that no one prepares you for the emotionally side of this journey. I feel like the doctors could go a better job of preparing you or have you go to counseling first. Like you, I was so focused on getting through the diagnosis and getting the cancer out and researching reconstruction taht I didn't really focus on the emotional part. It wasn't till after the surgery that I felt the full impact of loosing my breasts.It is really difficult and I struggle with it every day. I miss the sensation so much!! I have been going to a support group and am thinking about seeing a therapist also. I feel kind of stuck and not sure how to get past the fact that my breasts are gone and I have no sensation. I don't have any words of wisdom to help you just that you are not alone and I feel exactly the same way. I was hoping that time would help but I'm not sure. I think that is what makes having breast cancer so hard is that there is such a huge psychological component that effects us.
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I feel 100% the same.... tough journey sister.... But we are alive.......
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I too had a bilateral mast. and was very focused on fixing the situation and not realizing how I would feel. I am having the expander cups removed and the final surgery done real soon here, but I think about it everyday.....that they are gone. You know the feeling when someone rubs against you or you hit a closet door....yuck. I am having a hard time with that part of the whole thing. I am glad you posted this because I have been thinking about this a lot lately. Nothing we can do about it, but nice to vent a little to others who know what it is like.
Thanks,
Balsie~
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Here's another side to the coin. I didnt' get recon and for some reason I am not nearly as affected with emotions around my breasts as I read here in the forums! Go figure. To me, there gone! I had a reduction years ago and it took a year until I could feel my own nipple sensations again so I kind of had an idea what it would be like to never feel those great feelings again!
So, I didn't bother getting anything put in, on or around me and I'm quite content.
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Like Barbie, I had a bilateral mast without reconstruction. Like you, 3girls4me and others, I miss having nipple and breast sensations. Whether or not you choose to have reconstruction having a mnastectomy just plain sucks!
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From the flip-side, after changing my mind about 100 times from lump to mast decision about 3 months ago...being told the long-term is same for both, I finally chose the lump, now I am more than half way through rads...I can tell you that the worry is just as bad either way...I worry about all the rads I had pre-surgery and now everyday...what the long term se's will be on my lungs, heart, etc....My breast hurts, my scar is very hard and tender, I have indentation where lump was extracted (thank goodness it's almost under my arm so I can not see it that well)...I worry about recurrence in same and esp., the other breast....I worry about the se's of the hormone treatment that I will be on for 5 years....I worry that I should have just had double mast just in case there was more bc hiding in them....So as you can see.....We just can't win!!!...But for now, I am thankful for finding this site so we can express ourselves to women that totally understand....1 of somanywomen
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3girls, yep miss it. Knew I would, had no choice, and knew it would be an issue. PS wanted to adjust the other side to match and I said no, I wasn't chancing any loss of sensation. PS said they'd never seen anyone so worried about nipple sensation. I said "B.S., you've just never met anyone willing to tell you how important it was to them." I know there are many who it isn't as important to, or for whom it isn't as important as other parts of the decision. However, to some of us it is an issue, and a big one. I'm with you, feel the same and you're not alone. I miss the breast that is gone every day.
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Thanks for all your replies!!!! Its so good to know that I am not alone in my feelings (I knew I wasn't...I knew I could count on you gals!!! LOVE this site!). All my friends just dont "get it"....and its really not something I've every talked to anyone about, except husband. He tries to understand....but its not the same.
I think there needs to be some kind of emotional support or something that doctors or their PA's talk about. After our scars heal....thats when the emotional stuff starts to come out. And we all know that lasts WAY longer than any scar!
And true, I"m just thankful my cancer wasn't worse and that I'm sitting here today. Still worry about recurrence and for my daughters. Thanks again!
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I totally understand. I miss it too. It sucks. I went to a counselor this summer because I was so sad. Even with reconstruction DH and I still feel like my real breast are gone. I am only 36 and my sex life is basically over between having no breasts and now no estrogen. I don't think it will ever be the same. I don't regret it because I would worry too much if I had kept them. I do struggle with bitterness about this.
I am sorry all of you are missing your breasts too.
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I also miss my breasts. I now struggle with depression and have anger issues.
There has to be some better way to treat breast cancer besides amputating womens breasts. It is barbaric!
I also think the docs need to prepare you for the emotional pain of losing your breasts. The treatment is worse than the disease. It totally sucks!!!
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I really wish there was some way to reach out to younger women who have breast/body image issues; they don't know how lucky they are. I have to admit, I didn't ever really appreciate my breasts (except while breast feeding), they were small, not symmetrical and after babies, they headed south. I guess it's true - you never really appreciate what you've got till its gone. I think loosing my breasts has had a big impact on my sex life, I just don't feel sexy anymore. It DOES suck!
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I feel exactly the same. I guess there is some comfort in knowing that I am not alone in my feelings but the reality is we each have to deal with those feelings alone. I find this experience to be devastating.
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I didn't appreciate mine after kids. They were a perfect perky size B before kids. After kids and breast feeding very saggy, but I didn't want to have surgery to fix them because I was scared of surgery. At least they had feeling in them.
What I hate is when people say "You get to have new boobs and they will be forever perky. Lucky you" I know they don't understand, and they aren't trying to be insensitive. They are just trying to make us feel better, but I want to scream I AM NOT LUCKY TO HAVE NUMB AND FAKE BREAST. I AM NOT LUCKY TO HAVE GONE THROUGH CHEMO, RADIATION, MULTIPLE SURGERIES JUST TO HAVE PERKY BREAST. NOT TO MENTION THE MUTLIPLE SCARS, FEELING UGLY AND DEFORMED, ETC.
Sorry. The anger sometimes comes out.
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jperry, I feel exactly the same as you.
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totally agree. The bv11$h!+ about perky new boobs and/or flat stomach (if you had a DIEP) is insensitive. The plastic surgeons and their staff are the ones selling the crap out of the "bonus" of the reconstruction. They are insensitive clods about this. I asked about the loss of sensation and was told it was inevitable (although a lucky few do get some sort of sensation back). Surgeons just shrugged - oh well - sucks to be you.
jperry - go ahead and be angry. you have every right.
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I am with the rest of you!! I hate this!! I had bilat mx Dec 4th. Some days I do ok, some days are horrible. Yesterday as AWFUL!! I was getting dressed in front of the mirror and trying to put on my binder (seromas) and just looked at my disfigured, scarred, ugly foobs and burst out sobbing!! I hate the no feeling, I hate the tightness of expanders, I hate the hurt I still have, I hate trying to be positive all the time, I hate trying to be strong for everyone else!!
I miss my old breasts, as big and saggy as they were--they were mine, and I could feel them. DH havent had sex since before the mx, and Im kind of afraid of the whole thing!! I enjoyed (and my DH enjoyed) my breasts and nipples during sex. He is fine with everything, he says he is glad that they boobs are gone because after the cancer diagnosis he only saw them as a problem--not anything sexy anymore. But I still miss them--I miss being a WHOLE person!! I dont like being an amputated person with freakish looking foobs!! I should say that even though I call my foobs freakish--from a surgical standpoint they are fabulous--from my standpoint, they are not!!
thank you for posting this!! It really is nice to vent and know that the people here really do understand!!
--Kendra--
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Your posts have brought tears to my eyes. I had my double mx in mid-November and am at the beginning of the expansion process. I hate how much this all hurts and I sure don't like how I look in the mirror. My only advice to those of you feeling unsexy is to go have sex with your husband or your partner (or even someone else, as Susan Love mentions in her book!!!!). Sex is sure different without breasts, but it can still be very fun and very good. We owe it to ourselves not to lose that part of our life.
Still, I agree, it's nice to vent. I always have to be so upbeat to my family and friends. What a godsend this website is! Best wishes to you all...
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I'm going to take a big risk in jumping in here... I had unilateral DIEP recon 3 years ago and have regained a lot of sensation in that breast. The feeling started returning on the edges and then more and more toward the middle. Of course I do not have any nipple sensation, tho.
I really don't feel that much difference between the two breasts. I guess maybe my nipples were never that sensitive to begin with and were never super important in getting me sexually aroused. Actually, the sight of my husband fondling my breasts is more of a turn-on than the nipple sensation. I can feel him touching most of the skin on my breast, as well as the pressure on them when he hugs me.
I'm wondering if there is more return of sensation with flap recon than implant. I don't know. I agree, tho, that the sensation issue should be talked about more and women given more support in dealing with it. I don't know why it isn't discussed. I don't think it's because recon surgeons are purposely avoiding it, and even if they were, it sounds like it's up to us to raise awareness about it. Especially if there are differences, depending on which type of recon you have. It sure might figure into women's decisions if they fully understood the ramifications.
The other thing I'm wondering now, is if the size of the reconstructed breast figures into this. Mine is relatively small (34B). Maybe since there's so little there to begin with, there's less area to be numb and any nerve regeneration makes more of a difference.
One other thing that irritates me, tho, is the new talk about reattaching nerves to preserve sensation. My surgeon said that he thinks women are being misled by these claims - that we are many years away from anything like this and that any sensation that returns now would have returned without reattaching any nerves.
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Thanks for articulating what some of us are just a little too shy to admit. It's been extremely hard for me and I'm also thinking about seeking some BC support systems/etc. Yeah - we kind of like our own and it's a huge loss. I've lurked on the "Mojo" thread and would recommend it as a great place to visit - I'm grateful so many people are willing to share and be so open.
I think for the husbands or significant others (who are afraid of losing their wives to BC) it's a loss, but maybe not as much as for us. My DH didn't want to tell me his opinion on surgery decisions until after I made the decision and then he said he was relieved. Due to multi-focal nature of it, I didn't have many options and he didn't really want me to risk my life to save the breasts.
Whoever posted about their BS not getting it about how hard it was to lose them, the plastic surgeon on the show "The Doctors" said something on a recent show that was just so indicative of these male docs, however well meaning. He said something to the effect that women are often afraid of screenings b/c they're afraid if something's found they might lose the breast, but even if it came to that, reconstruction is amazing today. It made me laugh b/c it was such a male thing to say - true, the artistry is amazing, but although we may like their fake ones, we loved our real ones!!! I knew he meant well, but let's face it - no guy is ever going to understand what we're all saying here and thanks for validating the sadness that a lot of us are feeling.
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This post makes me cry to read it. My bmx is scheduled for Jan 25. I have been trying hard to prepare myself for the loss of feeling, but I don't think I can realisticly prepare. I don't know how it will feel to be 'numb' and have no nipple feeling. This is the part I am most afraid of in regards to my surgery and recon.
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Neversurrender, It really does suck, but recurrence sucks more. I knew that if I were to keep my breast I would constantly worry about getting cancer again especially since I was only 34. I don't regret the bmx, but I still think it is not fair and it sucks. I am sorry you have to go through this. It is a big scary desicion, but everyone has to make the desicion that is right for them. Good luck to you, and I am sorry
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jperry,
It does suck ! and is so unfair!! But, like you, the thought of recurrance made my decision very easy.
Not knowing how they will feel, how it will feel to have them numb that drives me crazy. The unknown makes it so tough.
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I can relate to how you feel. My exchange was in May of 2009. I really miss the absence of nipple sensation. The visual of getting my breast kissed can be stimulating itself but sometimes it makes me think that my nipples (which I got to keep) are attached to a ball instead of a breast. Weird thoughts..........it all sucks!
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I had bilat and so miss the sensations too. But I have to look at the positive, that I had all my female parts for 48.5yrs and got to enjoy them to the fullest.
Julie
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I have just started the reconstruction process. I did not know about the numbness. I hate it as all of you do. My surgery was on Dec 15th and I just got the drains taken out. YEAH!!! I took my first bath today and was concerned about getting it wet. All in all for a sucky situation, my experience has been as positive as it could have been. My plastic surgeion is wonderful and has kept me very informed about each stage. To quote skippycris, "it all sucks"
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I guess this topic answers my questions from today. My surgery is scheduled for this Wed. Jan. 6 and today as I was having sex with my hubby I told him he might want to play with them while they are still there and that is when it hit me, and it hit me hard! Wednesday they will no longer be there, there will be silicone in their place and I cried for almost an hour. My hubby just held me and let me cry. I know it bothers me more than it bothers him. But it does bother me! I don't know what I am going to feel like when I wake up and they are no longer there, it scares the crap out of me!!! They were never much to look at, but they were mine! I have had a positive attitude through this whole ordeal, but not having the sensation anymore worries me and holy crap I don't want to loose my sex drive! I am not saying I have to have it every day, but I do enjoy it! I am only 45 and have been with my hubby for 20 years and I don't want to loose this part of me! To quote everyone else............... this all sucks!!!
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Wow, I'm glad I'm not alone! I do miss the sensation in my breasts, and I don't really like to have them touched now during intimacy. My husband has been very supportive of me during the entire process. That being said, I wouldn't change having this surgery at all! I have the peace of mind now that I don't need mammos and MRI's every 6 months, unlike my mother and sister. Yes ladies this does SUCK, but I'll take the lack of sensation over worrying each time I go for a mammo or MRI.
I'm going in Friday January 8th for my exchange surgery. Can't wait to have softer foobs!
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All I can say is wow ! I never even thought out the full effect of a mastectomy. My concern was and still is to get the cancer out. I am so glad I read this forum because it gives me something else to think about.
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I had a mx on Dec 11. I do miss my leftie and wish I could have it back. It hasn't been easy and I still cry sometimes when I look at myself. BUT, I keep reminding myself that the cancer has been removed and that's so much more important than hanging on to a breast that I can have replaced at some point in the future.
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Mich I so agree with you. I still get very down, and at weird times, with no warning.l As you do I keep reminding myself that it is gone and being very lucky that I do not have to have chemo or radiation. Hornsemail I will have you in my thoughts and prayers this Wednesday. It is scary, but the positive is you will be one step toward recovery and getting back to "normal". My process is always there, but I do think of and do other things now, like spending time with my family and friends. Lean on your husband and support each other. diane
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