Jane Plant's No Dairy Breast Cancer Prevention Program
Okay, I just got diagnosed with lobular carcinoma in situ, a lobular neoplasia that puts me in the high risk category of getting cancer. So, I'm looking at diet. Now interestingly, that's kind of easy to do and a very interesting thing to do because my diets been extreme and kinda crazy---I've been on an almost exclusive raw milk diet where days upon days I would have NOTHING else (okay raw cacao and raw honey) but then a lot of days where I'd fall off the wagon, a LOT of days, and just eat whatever I wanted, not partic. healthy food, so I wasn't goodf ab out sticking to this but point I had a LOT of dairy, and I had colostrum too. Jane Plant implicates dairy not so much because of the saturated animal fat and all the rest, the main thing is the GROWTH factors, the IGF-1 (insulin-like growth factors) that may promote cell division and all the rest. (detractors argue conjugated linoleic acid in raw milk counters that and also argue that digestive enzmes kill off IGF-1 before it can become harmful. Still, her personal story is compelling (she had recurrent breast cancer 5 times and was literally at death's door--given 3 mos. to live, cancer had spread to lymphs and then when she linked it to dairy and stopped ALL dairy, the tumors and cancer literally dissolved away, practically right in front of her eyes. However, devil's advocate, I've seen some people posting (not here, on other sites) that they followed it or knew others who had to no avail. Have any of you tried this? Heard of it? Any thoughts/experiences? What was your dairy intake like? this is all based too on idea that chinese and japanese don't get breast cancer much and they're not too big on dairy at all. I'd be interested in others experiences or thoughts on this.--Paula
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I used to be a big dairy eater. I loved cheese and ate it liberally. I don't know if that contributed to my BC, but it did contribute to chronic nasal problems (which have resolved on their own since stopping dairy). Since my dx, I have done lots of blood testing and found out that I am highly allergic to dairy. There is some belief that chronic allergies can contribute to cancer. But, again, I don't know if this contributed. I do know that I feel better without eating dairy and I have lost a lot of weight as well.
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I have been a vegetarian for about 20 years, and I relied way, way too much on cheese. After diagnosis I read Life Over Cancer by Dr. Keith Block - he recommends NO DAIRY except whey protein. Recently I got The China Study by Dr. T. Colin Campbell, and he did research that showed that casein promotes cancer. They say that 80% of the protein in dairy is casein, which is cancer-promoting, and 20% is whey protein, which is actually protective.
For a short time after my diagnosis I switched to grass-fed dairy products, but now I won't eat them at all. I really don't think there is anything good about them. Their main selling point has always been calcium, but part of the reason we need so much calcium is because the phosphorus in meat and dairy products causes calcium to leach from our bones. Plus they are all saturated fat - nothing good about that.
I recently tried a new kind of non-dairy cheese called Daiya that you can buy online- it's pretty good if you are having a hard time giving up the gooeyness of cheese.
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I have been lactose inolerant my whole life... so I have never eaten dairy... and here I sit with breast cancer. Tami
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Dairy, of course, is not the only thing that would cause one to have breast cancer. There is no one thing. There are lots of things going wrong at the same time.
Here is a great recipe for cashew cream cheese. It tastes great and is super easy to make. We use it for sandwiches and spreads. Yummy and dairy free.
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My integrative medical doctor recommended that I give up dairy when I was diagnosed with BC. I couldn't imagine this as I was a huge cheese head. He also recommended that I read The China Study and I also read Jane Plant's book. I have been dairy-free for a year. I was a seasonal allergy sufferer and also had gastroesophageal reflux. Since going dairy-free I haven't had any allergy symptoms, no stuffiness, no reflux (went off my Nexium a year ago), and my skin is so clear. I hope going dairy-free keeps the BC monster away but if not I feel like I am still much better off without it. There are some easy recipes out there for nut cheeses and nut cream sauces. There are many milk substitutions as well. It really isn't as hard as you think. Good luck to you!
Li
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Thank you. You all gave me so much to think about. Lot of you dairy and one has BC even without having had dairy, which shows of course that the disease is multi-factorial and different causal factors for different folks. Still, it seems a lot of you have heard/experienced dairy as being an issue, so that is very interesting to me. Yes, I LOVE dairy and I am going to miss it DEEPLY. So, I am encouraged by those who report good substitutes. I will need to look into these. I hope they are soy free. I know there's controversy about soy, but for me, I feel I need to stay away from it since the thermogram interpreters where I go have reported seeing some problems from it in thermogram readings--from soy and flax seed. maybe that's not all folks but I'm too nervous about things to play with it for me.--RABBIT FAN--I never heard of Daiya. Is it soy free? I'll have to look into that and Deni, am anxious to look into the dairy free cashew cream cheese--I hope that does not have soy? but it might if it doesn't have real cream cheese which it must not if it's dairy free. I will look into those nut cheeses and nut cream sauces, Lili THANK YOU for telling me about those!. Those sound delicious. I guess I'll just google that. Yes, nuts may be what saves me, gives me something creamy and fatty, but good fats. Rabbit Fan and Lili, my preventative medicine doctor also told me to read The China Study. He said it's a must-read. He was emphasizing decreasing saturated fats (which I'm not sold on yet, but will do for now) but didn't seem to know about the dairy connection. Then upon reading Jane Plant, whom I told him about, I see she too looked at the Chinese and her work is endorsed by author of the China Study, Colin Campbell, so all very interesting. VERY interesting about casein being linked to cancer!! I'm so glad you told me that. I hadn't heard that yet, b/c as it turns out the kind of raw cow milk I was drinking is from A1 cows (Holstein) as opposed to A2 cows (like African and jersey) and A1 cows milk has some mutation that makes for a problem with casein (see The Devil's in the Milk). Hence, those of you who got stuffy on milk may've been drinking holsteins, but hey, after what i've read about milk, I'm not recommending any kind. Okay, well this is all really useful info. Thank you so much you guys. I really can't wait to check out those recipes too b/c I'm feeling quite frantic and going thru a grieving period over prospect of giving all the foods i like and living a life eating food I don't much care for. It seems hard to do but I do like nuts (and I can eat that and avocados, so that'll help). BTW, to all of you, because I was eating sooo much dairy, like a quart a day for about 2 yrs this makes it kind of an interesting experiment because what I'm going to do, what I'm in the middle of doing, is having my blood tested for the supposed culprit, or one of the main culprits in Jane Plants book which is the insulin-like growth factor, IGF-1. That can be a real problem and cancer promoting. Her detractors argue that it's not an issue b/c digestive enzymes get rid of it so it doesn't threaten our system. Well, I'm having my blood tested for it now when I haven't yet switched diets (but working up to it) to see. That will be really interesting to see if I have highly elevated IGF-1 levels. THen that really COULD explain this proliferative growth, cell division/neoplasia going on in my breasts. ---thank you everybody for your responses.--Paula
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PS; It's interesting to me that we're all trying to figure what the Japanese and Chinese are doing right b/c of their low BC rate--so we think it's the low saturated fat, or the no--dairy, or the soy, or the natto, or the iodine (from the seaweed I guess), or just growing up on these things rather than adding it later. It's sad though b/c I think they're BC rate is really escalating now in Japan at least (and they have a harder time with lumpectomies cosmetically bc tend to be smaller breasted. I'm really looking forward to progress with cryosurgery, which is being used in some places in japan, I believe). I really hope that works out to the answer in removing cancers along with some other innovative techniques that are far less invasive. I wish this stuff would hurry up and come to fruition!). And me, unfortunately, I just never have much cared for asian food. Darn! I always say I'm not a picky eater but I don't much care for asian food or seafood. Yeah, this is going to be a challenge alright. I prefer beef, not chicken and then if I DO eat chicken or turkey, I always say give me the dark meat. How one makes a life style change of eating all the foods one hasn't preferred, I'm not sure yet, but I do like nut butters, avocadoes, fatty foods basically, so I'll just have to lean on the good fats I guess. I'm not convinced that grass-fed beef isn't okay at all yet, but we'll see. One step at a time.---Paula
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Hi Paula - the Daiya "cheese" is soy-free and casein-free. It's made mainly of cassava. You can order it from http://www.veganstore.com/. It has less fat than regular cheese, and you also don't need to use a lot. It's a pretty new product - VegNews magazine named it their product of the year this year.
As for feeling deprived if you do decide to make a lot of dietary changes, I can totally relate. But it's really all attitude. You can choose to feel like it's a hardship, or you can choose to feel like it's a way to take charge of your fate. I recommend that you read Anti-cancer A New Way of Life by Dr. David Servan-Schreiber.
I made huge changes in the way I eat, and at the beginning I felt sorry for myself a couple of times, but I also realized that they way I was eating wasn't doing me any favors. I had about 30 pounds that I could never get rid of. Well, most of that is gone, and I feel GREAT about that. I really don't feel deprived anymore. I feel like I got a second chance. If it doesn't work and my cancer comes back, so what? The only thing I will have lost out on was eating some junk food. At first I allowed myself one splurge a week - pizza or candy or chips or something like that. I really looked forward to that for a month or two, but now my attitude is "yuck - why would I eat that" and I don't even really want it anymore.
Cancer scared the hell out of me - even though I'm doing traditional treatment it is obviously very lacking - if it wasn't, people wouldn't die from this. I need to feel like I'm doing as much as I can to keep it away. This document was also really helpful to me, so I'll pass it on again: http://cancer.ucsf.edu/crc/nutrition_breast.pdf Edit: Sorry, I just noticed this link is broken. I hope they repost it - it contains a lot of valuable info. Here's an HTML version I found on Google - not as pretty but has all the info. If you're interested I would print out a copy asap in case this link breaks too.
Eating specific anti-cancer foods, taking certain supplements and exercising at least 1/2 hour a day makes me feel a lot better. Every night I can tell myself "I did everything I could today to fight my cancer," and it really helps me sleep better. It might not be the right thing for a lot of people, but it's the right thing for me.
You're totally right about the one step at a time - it's been an 8-month process for me, and I'm still working on it, still finding out new information, and still fine-tuning my approach. It's really probably a life-long process - nothing wrong with that.
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Rabbitfan...I can totally relate. The same week I was diagnosed with BC I was diagnosed with celiac disease...gluten intolerance. I couldn't believe I had breast cancer (46 years old, vegetarian, active, not high risk, normal mammogram several months earlier)and I couldn't imagine going without a bagel, soft pretzel, pasta for the rest of my life. I didn't have a choice and decided, as you did, that I needed to take charge and look at it as a new challenge. So, I have been gluten free for about 1 1/2 years and dairy free for a year. I have honestly never felt better. I don't miss the bread...ok, I do still occasionally crave a soft pretzel...and I have found many healthy substitutes for the other wheat, rye or barley products I used to eat. I have ramped up the amount of vegetables in my diet and am doing all I can to increase my exercise and reduce my stress level. Hopefully it's enough to keep the beast at bay.
Paula...some of the nut cheese recipes that I have I got from Vegetarian Times magazine. One of the lastest issues had some in it but they haven't been posted online yet. If I find them I'll post the link for you. I actually made a lasagna the other day with gluten-free lasagna noodles (rice noodles)...the dairy substitute for the bechamel sauce was cream of buckwheat cereal and coconut milk. It was delicious! You'll definitely find ways to still get that yummy creamy taste and texture of dairy without it. Like you said, "one step at a time".
I also bought Dr. Servan-Schreiber's book right after I was diagnosed and refer to it often. It's a great resource for a healthy, cancer fighting lifestyle.
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Thanks again for your guys responses. It's helping me reframe my attitude from deprivation to hopefully feeling good about these changes, seeing them as helpful and ADDING to my life, rather than taking good things away from me.
I can't wait to try the daiya cheese and am ordering it right now!! And if you do get a nut cheese recipe for me, please PM me with it IF it's not too much trouble If it is, I understand and I'm still going to search on line for SOMETHING like that. Surelly there must be something out there.
Paula
Paula
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I just had a pita pizza with Daiya - it was great! It's obviously not cheese, but it's the best vegan cheese I've found. And the fact that it's both soy and casein-free is great. I saw a recipe somewhere recently for a cultured cashew cheese that would be like a substitute for a goat cheese or something like that, I think. I'll look for it and post it here.
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I used to always have milk in my fridge. I loved milk. I would consume approximately 2 gallons every week. I gave it up in May of last year. I started in advance, checking out milk alternatives. I like coconut milk the best from So Delicious. I also like rice dream, hemp milk, and another made from oats. I wasn't sure I'd ever be convinced to give up milk. It was videos about factory farms that turned the final piece of resistance for me.
I still eat cheese though and use butter. I had found a butter substitute that I liked quite well, but it was made from soy. And even though it was organic, non gmo soy, I just sort of lost heart on that front. Then there's my pizza habit. I love pizza. And my other dirty secret is american cheese. I love to make pasta with a cheesy sauce made from butter, cream, and american cheese. Anyone have a healthy version for cheesy pasta sauce?
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I love my dairy foods.
We raise our own (right now, goat milk, but the cow milk that is coming is jersey, so all of it is A2, and organic, grass fed). We consume it mostly raw, and always unhomogenized.
I still use store bought butter, and I also commercial 1/2 and 1/2 for my coffee, but try to keep that limited (Goat milk doesn't have enough cream to scoop it off for butter or coffee - but once the cow has her calf we'll solve that problem. )
If conventionally raised dairy were all that was available to me, I'd probably give it up. (Or at least cut way down, as I have with coffee creamer.)
BC may get me, but I'm taking my wine and cheese plate with me to the last day..
I guess it's a matter of what you believe in heart -- deep down I'm convinced it's not healthy food that is the culprit -
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If you google cashew cheese a bunch of sites come up. Here's a link to a good peppered cashew goat cheese...
http://blog.beliefnet.com/freshliving/2009/05/eat-what-you-want-day-how-to-make-cashew-cheese.html
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Hm, that is interesting. I guess I am pretty much with RunswithScissors on this... I don't do commercial non-organic dairy, but every once in a while (maybe once a week), I use organic goat cheese to add some kick to a dish and every once in a long while, I cook something using organic butter. I also eat Dr. Johanna Budwig's recommended breakfast dish which is made using organic cottage cheese and flax oil (along with nuts and seeds and berries).
I don't eat things like pizza or mac & cheese (at least not since my diagnosis) and I don't miss them at all any more.
I actually bought a pound of raw cashews to make cashew cheese a while back, but something in me is "enh" about "fake foods"... whether it's soy "meat" or nut "cheese"... I've settled on a mindset where I want real, organic, natural foods only. I know some raw vegans who eat a ton of nut-based products... fake lasagna, fake pizza, fake you-name-it. And yeah, some of those raw vegans are overweight and unhealthy.
I'd rather eat real, organic, natural foods. Mostly fresh vegetables and fruit, sure. But if I want to eat a bit of organic goat cheese that came from a happy, free-grazing, grass-fed goat, I'll indulge in it once in a while. (Although -- Lili46, after seeing that peppered cashew goat cheese recipe, wow, I may have to bust out the cashews and try that one!)
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Althea - I found a great recipe for raw, organic, cheesy sauce. We have tried it a couple of times and love it. I used it over baked potatoes and in a tuna casserole. It would be great with pasta too - just haven't gotten to try that yet. It is non-dairy too!
Here it is...
4 oz. pimentos (1 large jar)
1/4 cup raw cashews
1 1/2 tsp sea salt
3 heaping tbs nutritional yeast flakes
1/4 tsp garlic powder
1/2 tsp mustard powder
2 tbs arrowroot powder or 1 tbs corn starch (I use the arrowroot powder - you can find it in the spice section of stores like Whole Foods)
1 tbs lemon juice
2 cups unsweetened plantmilk (i.e., almond milk, rice milk, etc.)
Add all ingredients to a blender and blend until smooth. Pour into a saucepan and heat over medium-low heat until almost boiling - stir often. Pour over your favorite veggies (like broccoli!), pasta or you can use as a soup base. Really yummy!
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Thankfully I discovered this book over 9 years ago at our local library when I was diagnosed at the age of 37.
It was suggested by my world renowned oncology team (I live in Boston) that I receive a second if not a third opinion on a course of treatment and when I was looking for my answers I found this book at our local library. (Or, should I say it found me?)
The Cure for Breast Cancer is Prevention, and this book should be in every hospital's cancer resource library.
Would love to hear what others who have read her book and follow her no dairy diet think 'cuz I know we are all still out there! Yep! That's right. I haven't consumed food products made from cow's milk in over 9 years and only eat very limited amounts of organic meat. Ya know...no growth hormones or steroids because my tumor was hormone receptive. What have you got to lose?
An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. - Benjamin Franklin
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Hi All,
I read her book just after my diagnosis. I didn't want to believe it because I LOVE my dairy. I ate greek yogert for lunch every day. Then I went to a seminar at a health and wellness event and heard Dr. D'Admo who wrote, "Eat For Your Type" and "The GenoType Diet". I had heard about his books but never read them. I even had friends who followed his principles. His clinic is in Wilton, CT which is only 1 hr. away. He personalizes the diet recommendations based on blood type and genotype. Guess what? I should not be eating wheat or dairy! 2 of my siblings have ciliac disease but I did not realize that my type of digestive issues were related to wheat. I do not have ciliac but have a sensitivity to both wheat and dairy. He advised me on all aspects of my diet and exercise. He also recommended foods that work as medicine for me like turkey. I had my physical last week and my primary care doc said, "You look terrific!" I also feel soooo much better. My attitude is better, my skin is brighter on and on. If you are interested, pick up his "GenoType Diet" book. It even has instructions for identifying you own genotype.
Roseann
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Roseann ~ Do you know if the GenoType Diet is basically the same information as the book, Eating For Your Blood Type, which I assume is an earlier book? I've also always had a sensitivity to wheat & dairy, which were exacerbated to full-blown IBS attacks if I ate too much of them, especially wheat with fat (like something with a fried coating). I avoid wheat now and have cut way back on dairy, but I still love my organic Greek yogurt, although am wondering if I should eliminate that, too. Deanna
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I can't help thinking, like the original cellular insults that lead to each of our cancers, that we are all fairly unique in our dietary needs. Whatever foods produce inflammatory conditions, those are the ones we should avoid for our general health, as well as preventing recurrances. It might be dairy for a lot of people, gluten for some, etc. In my case, I cannot tolerate corn products, including high fructose corn syrup, corn starch, etc. anymore. I am was beginning to suspect gluten, but do not have a problem with some minimumly processed oat products or oatmeal so far. I definitely have a problem if my omega 6s outweigh my omega 3s.
That could be another reason why some people do so much better when off of dairy. Too much dairy or grain fed meat with little fish or plants rich in omega 3s quickly pushed the ratio too far.
If only there was a "one meal plan prevents bc" for all of us. At least we know that 30-60 minutes of moderate exercise at least 3 days a week reduces risk...
Sue
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Has anyone heard of the RAVE diet and have any thoughts on it? RAVE stands for:
no Refined foods
no Animal products
no Vegetable oils
no Exemptions, but do Exercise
The book comes with a DVD that really blew me away...
Tori
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I have a sensitivity to any type of diary (including ice-cream, boohoo) that makes me get sores in my mouth if I eat it. Because of that I had to take calcium pills all my life, as I wasn't able to get it from milk and diary products.
DCIS, LCIS, IDC, ILC, Stage IIb. Need I say more?
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Dear Day,
Although you've never consumed cheese and other dairy products, I'm curious if you eat meat? As you may know most of the beef in America is injected with growth hormones to make them grow faster and you had marked that you are ER+/PR+ which means that the tumor is hormone receptive.
Jane Plant also mentions in her book staying away from "non organic" hormone tainted meat because of the added growth hormones.
Best health always,
Lisa
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After my BC diagnosis I went off all dairy products, all meats, white flour and sugar, coffee. Trying to do the Jane Plant diet. I don't know ofcourse if it will make a difference, I am believing that it will. However, I have not had a headache in the last 5 weeks. I used to suffer from chronic and severe headaches. So something is working well. My new diet is full of interesting beans, vegetables, fruits, whole wheat, etc. I have also lost weight very gradually since starting this diet. I actually have more energy than I used to have. So it is working for me on different levels.
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Jane Plant also mentions in her book staying away from "non organic" hormone tainted meat because of the added growth hormones.
I hope she emphasizes GRASS-FED, not just organic... because organic animals are still fed corn and soy, which are NOT the natural main diet for most livestock. (and definitely, no dairy from cows that were given antibiotics or growth hormones should EVER be consumed.)
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I also read Jane Plant's book. I believe she got rid of her cancer because in her case the dairy was the cause of her cancer, i.e. the added hormones in dairy.
This does not mean that everybody who has breast cancer will be able to get rid of it by omitting dairy from their diet. I ate no more dairy after my mastectomy in 2002 (ER+) but yet I was dx with a recurrence in neck lymph nodes 5 years later. So eating no dairy did not help me. I know why too - because the dairy was not the CAUSE of my breast cancer. In my case it was HRT that caused the cancer - I was on HRT for 9 years uninterrupted. I trusted the Doctors, they said it will keep me young and what did it do? It gave me cancer.
I then tried all sorts of alternatives for 18 months, nothing helped. I declined 40 radiation treatments to the neck and I declined chemo. I knew that wasn't going to save my life. We have all seen what happens to those patients. I have seen it with my mother and father.
I had ISLM Ipsilateral Supraclavicular Lymph Node metastases, quite a few tumors the size of green peas at my neck and 4 cancerous areas at my side chest wall. The median survival rate for ISLM is 18 months which means I was supposed to be dead by April 2009. The onc told me I was going to die from this disease if I did not undergo the toxic treatments.
I went to a place in Oklahoma. They killed all my tumors with photodynamic therapy/hyperthermia/laser under extreme heat. Tumors fried to death. Outpatient procedure, painless, non invasive, no poisons, no toxins, no special diets. The only place in the world which does this. That was 9 months ago. Today I am very much undead, completely painfree and on no prescription meds whatsoever. This treatment has saved my life. 5 treatments of 90 minutes each and that's it.
I am probably not allowed to mention the place here, not sure. I usually get banned from forums when I mention it. But you are welcome to pm me if you are interested.
Note this treatment cannot kill internal organ tumors, only tumors which are located within 4 inches from the skin surface.
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I believe we need to keep our immune systems strong and avoid inflamation. What may cause an issue for one of us may be fine for another. A one size fits all doesn't work. I have a vegan friend who was diagnosed with prostate cancer at 42 years old. Go figure!
Roseann
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Lisa, I also mentioned I am from Europe. I came to the US in 1999. In my homeland, I did eat meat, but it was all from the farm, range-free, grass fed, and all that. And not a lot of meat either. Same was true for the produce, everything we ate was from the farm, all with organic fertilizers, no pesticides of any kind.
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I've been following Jane Plant's No-Dairy diet and no growth hormone meat for over 9 years. It may not work for everyone but it certainly is working for me. When 1 in 100,000 women in China will experience breast cancer during her lifetime and it's 1 in 7 in the U.S, I'm not taking any more my chances. I'd be happy to share my non dairy recipes that even kids will like.
Check out a recent research article published in Harvard Magazine on "Modern Milk" and dairy products. http://harvardmagazine.com/2007/05/modern-milk.html Wonder why we don't hear about "these research studies?"
I'd been using an organic, non hydrogenated (basically olive and soy) margarine for over a year for all our cooking and baking needs when my husband asked, "is this one of your organic things?" To which I simply replied, "Yes." He looked at the container and said, "I like it. How long have I been eating it?"
As Hippocrates said: Let food be your medicine and medicine be your food.
Best health always.
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Hi,
I'm really interested to know about whole approaches, after reading Jane Plant's guide. I too have switched to no-dairy and feel happy to be eliminating dairy from my diet and embracing a clean, green eating plan - i'm making some of the best meals, and finding out how to incorporate more veggies and how to absorb them. The book has been a radical inspiration!
I wonder, considering that the no-dairy route is advisable for hormone responsive BC's,(and BC generally), what does our community make of Jane's refusal of tamoxifen also ? I'm carefully weighing up the value of a possible five-year protocol like tamoxifen...
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